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(Legal) Graffiti, street art, urban murals appreciation thread (NSF56K)
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Not all graffiti is ugly tagging! Sometimes it's done with the permission of the property holder or the city, and can be fuckawesome art.
Sometimes it's political.
Often it's freaky!
Sometimes it's NSFW.
It could be an optical illusion!
Sometimes it just adds some color to a drab space.
This thread is for sharing your favorite street art. Murals, paintings, chalk art are all fair game.
A friendly reminder to all: please to not be endorsing illegal activities such as vandalism.
And since we are not endorsing vandalism here, please do not turn this into a discussion thread on the merits of vandalism. Talking about the aesthetic qualities of a piece are fine. Talking about how it's totes unfair that the artist got six months of community service over it is not fine.
This also means no pithy Banksy quotes on the virtues of reappropriating public spaces as your own. I love me some Banksy but I would also prefer not to get my thread locked plz.
And please link boobs or other NSFW stuff. Do not inline.
Sometimes it's political.
Often it's freaky!
Sometimes it's NSFW.
It could be an optical illusion!
Sometimes it just adds some color to a drab space.
This thread is for sharing your favorite street art. Murals, paintings, chalk art are all fair game.
A friendly reminder to all: please to not be endorsing illegal activities such as vandalism.
And since we are not endorsing vandalism here, please do not turn this into a discussion thread on the merits of vandalism. Talking about the aesthetic qualities of a piece are fine. Talking about how it's totes unfair that the artist got six months of community service over it is not fine.
This also means no pithy Banksy quotes on the virtues of reappropriating public spaces as your own. I love me some Banksy but I would also prefer not to get my thread locked plz.
And please link boobs or other NSFW stuff. Do not inline.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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http://www.sfmuralarts.com/
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
One thing I've always wanted to know; do these type of images look as good in person as they do in the pictures, or is it mostly a camera trick that provides the illusion?
Your brain will pretty much ignore that the parallax information is wrong, but it will seem slightly flat still.
Generally works better on camera, cause you mover you head about, and you eyes really focus all over the place and your brain makes an image out of all that data, plus what you saw when you walked up.
Your brain will play along better if you are intoxicated.
I've never seen the chalk drawings in person, but there's plenty of optical illusion & faux-3D stuff on walls around here, and yeah it never really fools you unless you're really trying to make it work. It can look pretty damn cool though.
The thing is that the human brain a three dimensional 'model' of a scene across multiple 'exposures' so to speak. When a (neurologically-normal, sober) human looks at a scene, the eyes engage in instinctive constant motion to look at different parts of the scene in comparison to other parts, using things like depth of focus and parallax and the overlap of different objects and the different input of each eye to build that three-dimensional model.
If you stand at exactly the sweet spot in front of one of those paintings, at just the right spot where the perspective is perfect, and wait, and let your eyes and brain relax, you can come very very close to perceiving depth.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
but our perception of depth is essentially just our brains reconciling two 'flat' images presented by our eyes, so from a particular angle it's possible to fool us
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(Oakland. I think by the late Dream TDK, but not sure.)
Moar Oakland. By Ras Terms and others.
A German artist called DAIM takes that style and applies shading and depth to it to give it a brain-melting 3D look
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I have no idea what that is, but I love it.
I'm also big on stuff that makes use of the environment, like so
But sick murals are cool, too!
And my very favorite pieces are subversive and anti-corporatist!
(NSFW, bikini) http://i.imgur.com/AVIKH.jpg
What, like Banksy's "murdered phone booth" or a Space Invader paste-up?
The Storm, on a parking garage just a few blocks away from the school (Booker T Washington)
Symphonic Mural in Dallas by Steve Hopson, on Flickr
The text on the sides of the garage levels above the conductors head is an Emerson quote: "The artists must be sacrificed to their art. Like the bees, they must put their lives into the sting they give."
Mass Transit:
Mural in Downtown Dallas by Firefighter with a camera, on Flickr
There's a bunch more around.
Big:
This one has borderline boobies (the nips are covered) but it's great: http://img2u.info/ckgni/i/g5ba6e04f.jpg
does that second one come in a bigger resolution?
The second Dublin picture... Is the man portrayed there a famous figure?
Chanus, those pandas are fucking pissed. Did somebody steal their cheese?
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I can't find one at the moment, though rvamag.com (RVA Magazine) supposedly has a guide to all of them but their site is down at the moment.
Might just go down to the flood wall and take a pic of it myself if I have to :P
It's supposed to be Joyce, but the angle of the picture isn't great.
Those are kinda...really shit. And not done on permission. There seems to be a massive correlation between the two.
I'm not really looking for any technical quality (or perhaps I'm less interested in what looks 'good'). I'm more interested in where people decide to make markings like these, and how it can alter the appearance of things in a way that defies beautification while still going somewhat beyond just a scribble. Like, with the pay phones, it almost unintentionally looks like captions between the two phones. The two blocks in the field were interesting to me because of the isolation and the expanse of the prairie sky with an insignificant rendering played out in the foreground.
Another aspect to scribble tagging I find interesting is in tracking certain taggers. The 'Wilfred' tag in the phones photo has appeared in various locations around the area with the payphones, and I believe extended beyond that range. Some of these taggers are indiscriminate in their choices of where and how to tag, some end up (maybe) unintentionally altering things in a way that can be open to interpretation.
Well, I think there's significant debate about what art is, which I don't wish to interrogate right now. It's likely beyond the purview of this thread. Regardless, I'm not really concerned with what art is when I'm viewing something somebody has made, whatever that may be.
Let me ask you this; do you think that tagging can be something beyond -just- scribbles and vandalism, at least from your perspective? If so, how would you envision it?
Done with permission, and exhibiting more artistic ability than being able to write. Having a message or content beyond just writing one's handle/nickname/whatever too.
At which point is crosses into being a mural, so unlikely. Please refer to the rest of the thread for murals, which are art. Taggers also tend to put their shit on other, more skilled graffiti.
Would you consider this art, or defacement?
"Ding Jinhao visited here" :
As I said, I'm not really concerned with whether something is or is not 'art'. I'd be interested in understanding what makes it important to you, but I don't want to hijack the thread.
Could a name be displayed in such a way so as to hold aesthetic value in your eyes? What if, as I mentioned in the photo I posted of tagging next to the payphones, you could see a tag in a way that perhaps interacts with the environment in a manner outside of the intent of the tagger, producing something else to consider visually. Do you think this is possible, from your perspective? Leaving aside whether or not you share my interpretation of the elements in the photo I posted.
Regarding the photo you posted; I think the different visual language located inside the body of the character is kind of interesting. In part because at first glance it's challenging to me to understand whether I feel it's a contrast to the hieroglyphs or if it oddly melds into the surrounding language. I suppose this is partly what I'm getting at in my other questions. I find that regardless of any moral or righteous considerations, and leaving aside whether something is supposedly art, it may be possible to see something else come from the act of tagging, something that could merit consideration in a different way, outside of the intent of those who left these writings(or symbols).
Read the fucking OP as regards arguing about the merits of vandalism.
I don't believe I was discussing things as such, but the discussion has moved to PM.
I also like stickering and wheatpasting. Some cool photos from Berlin:
Hey you, read the fucking post before yours. There's nothing more for you to police.
5 Pointz, a factory building on Long Island that's been repurposed as a graffiti museum of sorts. The neighboring buildings used to be live-work spaces and art studios, until the city closed down the residential spaces due to some pretty serious code violations resulting in an injured tenant.
The factory space might be going away soon. The owners (who allowed open graffiti on the building) want to redevelop.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Including street art. There's plenty of ugly tags around but they're mostly older. There are, however, some kickass murals. I snapped pictures of these two on the walk back to my house from a brewery.
Somebody just put this up on my Facebook
I think it's Amoeba Records in SF but I'm not sure
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Done by my sister's boyfriend on a coffee shops wall for the owner's daughter every year, based on her suggestions. This was done back in September.
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because i found some cute feminist graffiti that i want to share with yaaaalllll
Artist: Starchild Stela, Montreal, Quebec
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Already a little homesick. Seattle has good art, but not nearly the critical mass of Oakland.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.