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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Loeb has been in charge of all Marvel television for years now. Getting Wacker on animation means Loeb's in charge of less stuff.

    Until recently that was only for AoS, which Mutant Enemy guards like a hawk. It pays to have Joss Whedon looking out for your best interests. Netflix shows and Agent Carter are on their own. You do not want that man making decisions at the top of the food chain, see what he did to Heroes and he was only its show runner. Now he's going to oversee multiple tv shows without interference from above.

    edit: See what he did with the animated division. Rather than delegate he made himself the show runner for all the cartoons.

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  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    But you also have to take into consideration the budget and promotion costs. This is not a cheap show and they hyped it up a lot. Not to mention the two Marvel movies that came out during the show's run that should have helped boost the ratings.

    Also, a few years ago, there was a superhero show on ABC called "No Ordinary Family." It had similar ratings to AoS and it was canceled after the first season.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    But you also have to take into consideration the budget and promotion costs. This is not a cheap show and they hyped it up a lot. Not to mention the two Marvel movies that came out during the show's run that should have helped boost the ratings.

    Lucky for the show ratings are all ABC wants from it, it's low budget advertising for the MCU all year round.
    Also, a few years ago, there was a superhero show on ABC called "No Ordinary Family." It had similar ratings to AoS and it was canceled after the first season.

    That show was mediocre, it didn't reach the quality AoS had mid-stream never mind post-Winter Soldier. AoS is also an MCU spin-off, another incentive for it to be kept alive.

  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    But you also have to take into consideration the budget and promotion costs. This is not a cheap show and they hyped it up a lot. Not to mention the two Marvel movies that came out during the show's run that should have helped boost the ratings.

    Lucky for the show ratings are all ABC wants from it, it's low budget advertising for the MCU all year round.
    Also, a few years ago, there was a superhero show on ABC called "No Ordinary Family." It had similar ratings to AoS and it was canceled after the first season.

    That show was mediocre, it didn't reach the quality AoS had mid-stream never mind post-Winter Soldier. AoS is also an MCU spin-off, another incentive for it to be kept alive.

    Those two points are contradictory. If ratings are all ABC cared about, AoS would have been canceled since it has about the same ratings as No Ordinary Family.

    Regardless, ABC is keeping AoS despite its ratings because of it's ties to the MCU and they're all owned by Disney. It's likely that they don't want to cancel the show because it would be pretty embarrassing if they did. I doubt that the show serves any advertising purposes for the MCU. The people who watch the show are the ones who are going to see the movies even if the show didn't exist.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    But you also have to take into consideration the budget and promotion costs. This is not a cheap show and they hyped it up a lot. Not to mention the two Marvel movies that came out during the show's run that should have helped boost the ratings.

    Lucky for the show ratings are all ABC wants from it, it's low budget advertising for the MCU all year round.
    Also, a few years ago, there was a superhero show on ABC called "No Ordinary Family." It had similar ratings to AoS and it was canceled after the first season.

    That show was mediocre, it didn't reach the quality AoS had mid-stream never mind post-Winter Soldier. AoS is also an MCU spin-off, another incentive for it to be kept alive.

    Those two points are contradictory. If ratings are all ABC cared about, AoS would have been canceled since it has about the same ratings as No Ordinary Family.

    AoS had better quality then No Ordinary Family but that isn't the likely reason they didn't can it for low ratings. NOF didn't offer the benefits to the MCU like AoS does, making ABC not hesitate to cancel it. Ratings are one piece to AoS, it isn't the entire purpose for the program.
    Regardless, ABC is keeping AoS despite its ratings because of it's ties to the MCU and they're all owned by Disney. It's likely that they don't want to cancel the show because it would be pretty embarrassing if they did. I doubt that the show serves any advertising purposes for the MCU. The people who watch the show are the ones who are going to see the movies even if the show didn't exist.

    The show keeps the audience from losing touch with the MCU. It makes them enthused before and during a movie being released.

  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    But you also have to take into consideration the budget and promotion costs. This is not a cheap show and they hyped it up a lot. Not to mention the two Marvel movies that came out during the show's run that should have helped boost the ratings.

    Lucky for the show ratings are all ABC wants from it, it's low budget advertising for the MCU all year round.
    Also, a few years ago, there was a superhero show on ABC called "No Ordinary Family." It had similar ratings to AoS and it was canceled after the first season.

    That show was mediocre, it didn't reach the quality AoS had mid-stream never mind post-Winter Soldier. AoS is also an MCU spin-off, another incentive for it to be kept alive.

    Those two points are contradictory. If ratings are all ABC cared about, AoS would have been canceled since it has about the same ratings as No Ordinary Family.

    AoS had better quality then No Ordinary Family but that isn't the likely reason they didn't can it for low ratings. NOF didn't offer the benefits to the MCU like AoS does, making ABC not hesitate to cancel it. Ratings are one piece to AoS, it isn't the entire purpose for the program.
    Regardless, ABC is keeping AoS despite its ratings because of it's ties to the MCU and they're all owned by Disney. It's likely that they don't want to cancel the show because it would be pretty embarrassing if they did. I doubt that the show serves any advertising purposes for the MCU. The people who watch the show are the ones who are going to see the movies even if the show didn't exist.

    The show keeps the audience from losing touch with the MCU. It makes them enthused before and during a movie being released.

    No Ordinary Family also had the misfortune of being an also ran. It was conceptualized and greenlit when Heroes was still a hit TV show and debuted after Heroes had gone into ratings freefall. Without the massive success of superhero movies as counter evidence, the network executives decided that the wave they were trying to catch had crested and yanked the series.

    Not that it was a bad decision. The show actually had a good pilot, but the writers had no idea what to do with the concept after establishing the setup - much like Heroes after the first season. I think TV executives have learned their lesson and now concentrate on licensed superhero properties, which offer tons of material for the show runners to mine.

  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    I think Loeb is going to have less free reign over the live action TV stuff, since it ties into the MCU at large and that's Feige's and Whedon's ballpark. Not only does the quality need to try and match up to keep up the reputation, continuity has to be kept consistent(ish).

  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    First signs of Loeb causing live-action to jump the shark:
    1. Red Hulk is introduced in AoS.
    2. A character named 'Sam'.
    3. Someone gets eaten by someone else.

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Loeb has been in charge of all Marvel television for years now. Getting Wacker on animation means Loeb's in charge of less stuff.

    Until recently that was only for AoS, which Mutant Enemy guards like a hawk. It pays to have Joss Whedon looking out for your best interests. Netflix shows and Agent Carter are on their own. You do not want that man making decisions at the top of the food chain, see what he did to Heroes and he was only its show runner. Now he's going to oversee multiple tv shows without interference from above.

    edit: See what he did with the animated division. Rather than delegate he made himself the show runner for all the cartoons.

    To be fair, there were alot of people to blame for Heroes, not just Loeb.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Loeb has been in charge of all Marvel television for years now. Getting Wacker on animation means Loeb's in charge of less stuff.

    Until recently that was only for AoS, which Mutant Enemy guards like a hawk. It pays to have Joss Whedon looking out for your best interests. Netflix shows and Agent Carter are on their own. You do not want that man making decisions at the top of the food chain, see what he did to Heroes and he was only its show runner. Now he's going to oversee multiple tv shows without interference from above.

    edit: See what he did with the animated division. Rather than delegate he made himself the show runner for all the cartoons.

    To be fair, there were alot of people to blame for Heroes, not just Loeb.

    True, but the show runner is the captain of the ship that's why it's a tough job. You can't hand over the keys of a tv show to anybody.

  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure Loeb was never the sole showrunner on Heroes. That was always Tim Kring's baby.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    I'm not sure how much you can blame that on the show runner given the show kept getting renewed.

    There's not a lot of "Hey, I'm fucking up! I should do this different" kind of dissuasion going on in that situation.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Loeb was never the sole showrunner on Heroes. That was always Tim Kring's baby.

    The series went through a few show runners. It may have been Kring's baby but he wasn't the one steering the ship once he left that job to other people.

  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    Yeah...I could've gone for this Deadpool movie... Ryan Reynolds is pretty good as him; I don't see what the hang-up is about not seeing his face...

    It...wait. Is that from the old Deadpool script?!

    Are we going to get
    the Tyrannosaurus Rex was the most fearsome predator scene?!

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    Gonmun wrote: »
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    Yeah...I could've gone for this Deadpool movie... Ryan Reynolds is pretty good as him; I don't see what the hang-up is about not seeing his face...

    It...wait. Is that from the old Deadpool script?!

    Are we going to get
    the Tyrannosaurus Rex was the most fearsome predator scene?!

    Sorry Gonmun, but that was just the test footage. No Deadpool movie is coming

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  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    Gonmun wrote: »
    cshadow42 wrote: »
    Yeah...I could've gone for this Deadpool movie... Ryan Reynolds is pretty good as him; I don't see what the hang-up is about not seeing his face...

    It...wait. Is that from the old Deadpool script?!

    Are we going to get
    the Tyrannosaurus Rex was the most fearsome predator scene?!

    Sorry Gonmun, but that was just the test footage. No Deadpool movie is coming

    Nooooooooooooo!

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    I just thought of what would be an awesome stinger for Avengers 2.
    The stinger for Avengers 1, but with Kang walking through in hologram form. [/stinger]

    I mean, there is nothing that says Avengers 3 has to be about Thanos...

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure
    fiege has said multiple times they're saving Thanos for Avengers 3. Besides, Kang can be the villain behind phase 4/5/6.

  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure
    fiege has said multiple times they're saving Thanos for Avengers 3. Besides, Kang can be the villain behind phase 4/5/6.

    It would be awesome to see Avengers rocking the time travel thing. Yeah...I can wait for phase 4 I suppose.

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    Higher resolution Deadpool footage is now up, which reveals some of the gags you couldn't see before. Also reveals the story behind how the footage was leaked (it was hackers).

    And apparently there is another 6 minutes of footage out there, as there were 8 minutes total of footage.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    I've decided I really want a scene in Age of Ultron where
    for some reason they need to sneak Banner somewhere, and they stick him in an ironman suit. Just so we can get the surprise visual of Hulk bursting out of it.

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  • tehjestertehjester Tampa, FlRegistered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Saw Guardians of the Galaxy last night. Too say it was a lot of fun would be to underwhelmingly describe it to you guys, but man that movie is just so much damn fun! And Josh Brolin as Thanos is just perfect. That's going to blossom into something magnificent. Lee Pace did a great job as Ronan. Bradley Cooper was just fantastic as Rocket, guy really put some love into that character and it shows. Really the only character I felt was under utilized was Gamora. I KNOW Zoe Saldana has the action chops to pull off Gamora but the character felt underused. Still was really good though.

    Thinking about it though and how the movie goes I thought up something interesting, super spoiler:

    Seriously, this is a super spoiler for three movies. If you haven't seen Thor 2 or Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain America turn back now! And also reevaluate what thread you're in man, seriously.
    You have been warned!

    I don't think that Malekith, Red Skull and Ronan are dead. They each were "destroyed" by an Infinity stone in pretty much the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if more villains were offed this way like Baron Mordo in the Dr Strange movie and whoever the villain for Ant Man may be. I wish I knew more about the Infinity stones and if they each needed like an avatar or host of some sorts to support them. Kind of like how each member of the Illuminati is in charge of one. Anyway thought it was interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought, see where this rabbit hole takes us

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    tehjester wrote: »
    Saw Guardians of the Galaxy last night. Too say it was a lot of fun would be to underwhelmingly describe it to you guys, but man that movie is just so much damn fun! And Josh Brolin as Thanos is just perfect. That's going to blossom into something magnificent. Lee Pace did a great job as Ronan. Bradley Cooper was just fantastic as Rocket, guy really put some love into that character and it shows. Really the only character I felt was under utilized was Gamora. I KNOW Zoe Saldana has the action chops to pull off Gamora but the character felt underused. Still was really good though.

    Thinking about it though and how the movie goes I thought up something interesting, super spoiler:

    Seriously, this is a super spoiler for three movies. If you haven't seen Thor 2 or Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain America turn back now! And also reevaluate what thread you're in man, seriously.
    You have been warned!

    I don't think that Malekith, Red Skull and Ronan are dead. They each were "destroyed" by an Infinity stone in pretty much the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if more villains were offed this way like Baron Mordo in the Dr Strange movie and whoever the villain for Ant Man may be. I wish I knew more about the Infinity stones and if they each needed like an avatar or host of some sorts to support them. Kind of like how each member of the Illuminati is in charge of one. Anyway thought it was interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought, see where this rabbit hole takes us

    The First Avenger spoilers
    Red Skull isn't dead, he was teleported to an unknown destination.

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    GotG was rad. I thought the antagonists left something to be desired but all in all it was a super fun movie.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    The worst thing I can say about GotG is that I think I liked Winter Soldier more?

    Oh, I guess I can also say that I missed a bunch of lines because I was laughing too hard. Gotta see it again!
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  • tehjestertehjester Tampa, FlRegistered User regular
    tehjester wrote: »
    Saw Guardians of the Galaxy last night. Too say it was a lot of fun would be to underwhelmingly describe it to you guys, but man that movie is just so much damn fun! And Josh Brolin as Thanos is just perfect. That's going to blossom into something magnificent. Lee Pace did a great job as Ronan. Bradley Cooper was just fantastic as Rocket, guy really put some love into that character and it shows. Really the only character I felt was under utilized was Gamora. I KNOW Zoe Saldana has the action chops to pull off Gamora but the character felt underused. Still was really good though.

    Thinking about it though and how the movie goes I thought up something interesting, super spoiler:

    Seriously, this is a super spoiler for three movies. If you haven't seen Thor 2 or Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain America turn back now! And also reevaluate what thread you're in man, seriously.
    You have been warned!

    I don't think that Malekith, Red Skull and Ronan are dead. They each were "destroyed" by an Infinity stone in pretty much the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if more villains were offed this way like Baron Mordo in the Dr Strange movie and whoever the villain for Ant Man may be. I wish I knew more about the Infinity stones and if they each needed like an avatar or host of some sorts to support them. Kind of like how each member of the Illuminati is in charge of one. Anyway thought it was interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought, see where this rabbit hole takes us

    The First Avenger spoilers
    Red Skull isn't dead, he was teleported to an unknown destination.
    that's what I'm saying though. I don't think that Ronan or Malekith are dead. Just a theory cause those two are some big hitters in there respective villain roles for Marvel and Disney to just have thrown away cause that's what has to happen to the bad guy at the end of a movie. I mean time will tell and it'll turn out that I'm wrong but I'm going to have a few geek moments till that happens. /shrug

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    tehjester wrote: »
    tehjester wrote: »
    Saw Guardians of the Galaxy last night. Too say it was a lot of fun would be to underwhelmingly describe it to you guys, but man that movie is just so much damn fun! And Josh Brolin as Thanos is just perfect. That's going to blossom into something magnificent. Lee Pace did a great job as Ronan. Bradley Cooper was just fantastic as Rocket, guy really put some love into that character and it shows. Really the only character I felt was under utilized was Gamora. I KNOW Zoe Saldana has the action chops to pull off Gamora but the character felt underused. Still was really good though.

    Thinking about it though and how the movie goes I thought up something interesting, super spoiler:

    Seriously, this is a super spoiler for three movies. If you haven't seen Thor 2 or Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain America turn back now! And also reevaluate what thread you're in man, seriously.
    You have been warned!

    I don't think that Malekith, Red Skull and Ronan are dead. They each were "destroyed" by an Infinity stone in pretty much the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if more villains were offed this way like Baron Mordo in the Dr Strange movie and whoever the villain for Ant Man may be. I wish I knew more about the Infinity stones and if they each needed like an avatar or host of some sorts to support them. Kind of like how each member of the Illuminati is in charge of one. Anyway thought it was interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought, see where this rabbit hole takes us

    The First Avenger spoilers
    Red Skull isn't dead, he was teleported to an unknown destination.
    that's what I'm saying though. I don't think that Ronan or Malekith are dead. Just a theory cause those two are some big hitters in there respective villain roles for Marvel and Disney to just have thrown away cause that's what has to happen to the bad guy at the end of a movie. I mean time will tell and it'll turn out that I'm wrong but I'm going to have a few geek moments till that happens. /shrug

    Thor 2 and Guardians spoilers
    Malekith looked dead to me. His "exit" wasn't an obvious survivable event, though it's possible he could since he was possessed by the Aether - it just wasn't clear like Red Skull. I don't know why people think he died in that movie.

    Haven't seen Guardians yet. It'd be a waste to off Ronan permanently like that. :(

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    tehjester wrote: »
    tehjester wrote: »
    Saw Guardians of the Galaxy last night. Too say it was a lot of fun would be to underwhelmingly describe it to you guys, but man that movie is just so much damn fun! And Josh Brolin as Thanos is just perfect. That's going to blossom into something magnificent. Lee Pace did a great job as Ronan. Bradley Cooper was just fantastic as Rocket, guy really put some love into that character and it shows. Really the only character I felt was under utilized was Gamora. I KNOW Zoe Saldana has the action chops to pull off Gamora but the character felt underused. Still was really good though.

    Thinking about it though and how the movie goes I thought up something interesting, super spoiler:

    Seriously, this is a super spoiler for three movies. If you haven't seen Thor 2 or Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain America turn back now! And also reevaluate what thread you're in man, seriously.
    You have been warned!

    I don't think that Malekith, Red Skull and Ronan are dead. They each were "destroyed" by an Infinity stone in pretty much the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if more villains were offed this way like Baron Mordo in the Dr Strange movie and whoever the villain for Ant Man may be. I wish I knew more about the Infinity stones and if they each needed like an avatar or host of some sorts to support them. Kind of like how each member of the Illuminati is in charge of one. Anyway thought it was interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought, see where this rabbit hole takes us

    The First Avenger spoilers
    Red Skull isn't dead, he was teleported to an unknown destination.
    that's what I'm saying though. I don't think that Ronan or Malekith are dead. Just a theory cause those two are some big hitters in there respective villain roles for Marvel and Disney to just have thrown away cause that's what has to happen to the bad guy at the end of a movie. I mean time will tell and it'll turn out that I'm wrong but I'm going to have a few geek moments till that happens. /shrug

    Thor 2 and Guardians spoilers
    Malekith looked dead to me. His "exit" wasn't an obvious survivable event, though it's possible he could since he was possessed by the Aether - it just wasn't clear like Red Skull. I don't know why people think he died in that movie.

    Haven't seen Guardians yet. It'd be a waste to off Ronan permanently like that. :(
    Even if he actually IS dead, if anyone has the capability bring Ronan back through genetic wizardry, it's the Kree Empire.

    Harry Dresden
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    tehjester wrote: »
    tehjester wrote: »
    Saw Guardians of the Galaxy last night. Too say it was a lot of fun would be to underwhelmingly describe it to you guys, but man that movie is just so much damn fun! And Josh Brolin as Thanos is just perfect. That's going to blossom into something magnificent. Lee Pace did a great job as Ronan. Bradley Cooper was just fantastic as Rocket, guy really put some love into that character and it shows. Really the only character I felt was under utilized was Gamora. I KNOW Zoe Saldana has the action chops to pull off Gamora but the character felt underused. Still was really good though.

    Thinking about it though and how the movie goes I thought up something interesting, super spoiler:

    Seriously, this is a super spoiler for three movies. If you haven't seen Thor 2 or Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain America turn back now! And also reevaluate what thread you're in man, seriously.
    You have been warned!

    I don't think that Malekith, Red Skull and Ronan are dead. They each were "destroyed" by an Infinity stone in pretty much the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if more villains were offed this way like Baron Mordo in the Dr Strange movie and whoever the villain for Ant Man may be. I wish I knew more about the Infinity stones and if they each needed like an avatar or host of some sorts to support them. Kind of like how each member of the Illuminati is in charge of one. Anyway thought it was interesting and wanted to see what you guys thought, see where this rabbit hole takes us

    The First Avenger spoilers
    Red Skull isn't dead, he was teleported to an unknown destination.
    that's what I'm saying though. I don't think that Ronan or Malekith are dead. Just a theory cause those two are some big hitters in there respective villain roles for Marvel and Disney to just have thrown away cause that's what has to happen to the bad guy at the end of a movie. I mean time will tell and it'll turn out that I'm wrong but I'm going to have a few geek moments till that happens. /shrug

    Thor 2 and Guardians spoilers
    Malekith looked dead to me. His "exit" wasn't an obvious survivable event, though it's possible he could since he was possessed by the Aether - it just wasn't clear like Red Skull. I don't know why people think he died in that movie.

    Haven't seen Guardians yet. It'd be a waste to off Ronan permanently like that. :(
    Even if he actually IS dead, if anyone has the capability bring Ronan back through genetic wizardry, it's the Kree Empire.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKudHBKdPU

  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    "H"'s cameo in GotG:
    howard-the-duck.jpg

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    I was delighted by how confused the audience was in the theater for the GotG stinger. The kid sitting next to us made his dad wait through the credits - then when the scene hit the kid had no idea what happened but the dad was laughing his ass off.
    Re: the film. I was a bit bummed about the Nova Corps too. They just came off as being a big ole police force. Granted, that's probably so the can juice up Richard Rider in the future and make him Nova Prime.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Even if he actually IS dead, if anyone has the capability bring Ronan back through genetic wizardry, it's the Kree Empire.

    To say nothing of
    Thanos. Who has an 'in' with, y'know, Death.

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    AtomicTofu wrote: »
    Even if he actually IS dead, if anyone has the capability bring Ronan back through genetic wizardry, it's the Kree Empire.

    To say nothing of
    Thanos. Who has an 'in' with, y'know, Death.
    There's also the fact that Ronan was consumed by the energy of an Infinity Stone, just like Red Skull, who we all assume is still alive somewhere.

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Yeah, that's what started this whole tangent.

    It'd be pretty great if
    The climax of Thanos getting all the stones involved him summoning back into existence every villain who's been 'consumed' by one - Red Skull, Malekith, Ronan, and whoever else just phase back into existence as Thanos' anti-Avengers crew.

    At the very least we're getting the Red Skull back - vanishing in a beam of light after opening a vortex into outer-space is one of the most obvious comic book ways of saying 'he's not dead', just behind 'falling into a dark crevice with no body to be found.'

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Yeah, that's what started this whole tangent.

    It'd be pretty great if
    The climax of Thanos getting all the stones involved him summoning back into existence every villain who's been 'consumed' by one - Red Skull, Malekith, Ronan, and whoever else just phase back into existence as Thanos' anti-Avengers crew.

    At the very least we're getting the Red Skull back - vanishing in a beam of light after opening a vortex into outer-space is one of the most obvious comic book ways of saying 'he's not dead', just behind 'falling into a dark crevice with no body to be found.'

    Didn't Malekith die from being crushed to death after all of his limbs were cut off?

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  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    Loki is still the only great Marvel villain, all the others are pretty generic and boring (even Red Skull). There's really no need to bring any of them back.

  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Loki is still the only great Marvel villain, all the others are pretty generic and boring (even Red Skull). There's really no need to bring any of them back.

    They've got Ultron coming up, and I'm sure Kang is waiting in the wings. The frustrating thing is that a lot of Marvel's best villains have been licensed to other studios (Magneto, Doctor Doom, Galactus, the Spider villains, etc.)

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
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    Loki is still the only great Marvel villain, all the others are pretty generic and boring (even Red Skull). There's really no need to bring any of them back.

    They can make Red Skull interesting, just build off what happened in The First Avenger. Imagine that lunatic reacting to the modern day. :)
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Yeah, that's what started this whole tangent.

    It'd be pretty great if
    The climax of Thanos getting all the stones involved him summoning back into existence every villain who's been 'consumed' by one - Red Skull, Malekith, Ronan, and whoever else just phase back into existence as Thanos' anti-Avengers crew.

    At the very least we're getting the Red Skull back - vanishing in a beam of light after opening a vortex into outer-space is one of the most obvious comic book ways of saying 'he's not dead', just behind 'falling into a dark crevice with no body to be found.'

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    They'll have to recast Malekith, Eccleston refuses to play his characters twice - he thinks that's beneath him. They'll need to recast Red Skull too, Weaving wasn't happy with the role.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I was delighted by how confused the audience was in the theater for the GotG stinger. The kid sitting next to us made his dad wait through the credits - then when the scene hit the kid had no idea what happened but the dad was laughing his ass off.
    Re: the film. I was a bit bummed about the Nova Corps too. They just came off as being a big ole police force. Granted, that's probably so the can juice up Richard Rider in the future and make him Nova Prime.
    James Gunn recently said he's not really a fan of Nova, as a character, and Rich/Sam definitely don't mesh with the weirdo outcast vibe of the MCU Guardians so I wouldn't hold my breath on him being in the sequel.

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    If we're going to see Richard Rider, it'll probably be in a Nova movie proper. Which, given the apparent success of GotG, just became that much more likely to happen.

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