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Million Muslim March on 9/11
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A more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered User regular
A more apocalyptic post apocalypse Portland OregonRegistered User regular
So the "American Muslim Political Action Comittee" is planning an "Million Muslim March" in Washington DC on September 11th.
They are marching to demand america respect their rights (huh?).
How does this help their cause? Even if you're not a "Go 'Murica" type person, i think it still comes off as ignorant.
To me this is on the level of The Westboro Baptist Church showing up at funerals. (For clarification i don't think the Muslims are evil like the WBC, i just think th action is disgusting) Its pretty crappy move on their part, and i don't think it's the way to sway the average American, who probably only knows about muslims from what they see on TV.
Am i being to sensitive to this?
I don't think the march itself is a bad idea, but to hold it on 9/11 i think is way more damaging to their cause. If you're trying to get people to respect your relgion, is marching on 9/11 the way to do it?
They are marching to demand america respect their rights (huh?).
How does this help their cause? Even if you're not a "Go 'Murica" type person, i think it still comes off as ignorant.
To me this is on the level of The Westboro Baptist Church showing up at funerals. (For clarification i don't think the Muslims are evil like the WBC, i just think th action is disgusting) Its pretty crappy move on their part, and i don't think it's the way to sway the average American, who probably only knows about muslims from what they see on TV.
Am i being to sensitive to this?
I don't think the march itself is a bad idea, but to hold it on 9/11 i think is way more damaging to their cause. If you're trying to get people to respect your relgion, is marching on 9/11 the way to do it?
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I get tired of religious groups conflating their interests and influence with "rights". Of course, marching to demand the government respect your desire to be more influential doesn't have the same ring.
I think you are a kinda inexcusably silly goose for finding it offensive or 'being sensitive' to it, or what the fuck ever you are actually on about.
I don't think it is a good idea and will get a lot of bad press and will be counter productive, because most americans are Silly Geese particularly the ones who are going to care enough to open their mouths about this.
It's a fairly antagonistic choice of dates.
They're making a deliberately poor choice in order to increase controversy and amp their press coverage.
You can't wave the flag of oppressed religion in my face hard enough to make me not see that much.
I shouldn't be offended by it? If i read that correctly?
Why not? I mean if you're trying to make a point that "Not all muslims are extremists and terrorist" why would you march on the annaversary of a terrorist attack by people who identify themselves as muslim?
If it was a march to try to unite faith, and say "hey we remember too, and we support those still affected, and this is what we're really about" i would get it. But it seems like they're trying to dump on the date.
Probably not very. How often do you actually meet an American Muslim who is like "yeah lets stir shit up about 9/11 this will end well!"
So I take it you missed all that coverage of the NYPD's approach to Muslims in New York? Their rights may be equal on paper, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily observed equally.
The first is the choice of date. Yes, we all know that it doesn't necessarily mean it's an insult, but what matters is that it can be interpreted that way. It's a foreseeable controversy gone into right away. Okay, so what about this makes the controversy worth it? The publicity? Maybe that actually does come back around to maybe being insulting? I don't know. I just know that people will be angry about it.
The second is the name - the association with the Million Man March. Which was meant to be a positive movement but was unfortunately lead by a man that's a known racist toward Jewish people and the message of the event was convoluted and actually insulting to the people participating (such as the "repeat after me: I will not beat my wife" stuff).
I dunno, man. We need more positivity surrounding Muslims in America (hell, and outside America too), but this isn't the way to do it.
Because it makes people pay attention, which is the only reason to march.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I'll feel like having a religion is not a totally personally chosen lifestyle choice and should be given the same protected status as race and gender the same day any major religion will stand up and say the same thing about homosexuality.
Yeah, the Million X March meme needs to be retired, permanently.
At the very least, it's embarrassing as fuck to your movement when your Million X March draws a thousand people.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
On 9/11 no less. That's tasteless.
The terrorist attacks on 9/11 hurt the Muslim community in America / the West, pretty much worse than any group except the honest to god physical victims and their families.
That said, I highly doubt many American Muslims are very excited about stirring up shit with 9/11. Announcing a 'Million Muslim March' and actually HAVING a million (or even ten thousand) people show up is quite a different thing, and I would bet that that this is more shit stirring than anything else.
Can anyone provide a link to any press release or story about any substantial Muslim community support for this march / protest? Especially one that's not Fox News or some other group of shitheels that would run a story about 'Muslim Terrorists Use Chemical Weapon in NYC' if a Saudi cabbie ripped a particularly nasty fart?
EDIT - not saying Muslims don't protest / wouldn't show up for a legitimate - just likely not at some 'engineered to draw page views / controversy' press release about a protest. I may be wrong, but doubt it.
Do you mean stop and frisk?
Because it's not like NYC isn't taking a public beating from every single front over that.
meh...
They do seem a bit like assholes.
Did someone forget to tell American Muslims that everyone has the right to prosthelytize but everyone hates prosthelytizers and there's no law against that.
No, stuff like this:
http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-religion-belief-technology-and-liberty-criminal-law-reform/aclu-sues-nypd
twitch.tv/tehsloth
All of America is having to deal with the reality of living under a surveillance state, largely as a result (even if only because it provided the excuse) of terrorist activity. This is not the time to respond with this sort of divisive, religion-focused march, when there are related civil rights issues affecting all citizens. Frankly picking 9/11 as the date is just the shit topping on the vomit casserole.
Or maybe you haven't tried flying while muslim lately?
If you think the muslim experience in America is similar in any way to the White Christian Male one, you're smokin' and jamokin'.
That having been said, scheduling it for 9/11 is pretty stupid on an optics level.
No, he's referring to the covert surveillance of Muslim communities by the NYPD, many of which were outside of the five boroughs.
Was having a "worship center" in downtown New York antagonistic?
If someone wants to schedule a million Arab march against racial profiling I will gladly support it. That is not what this is.
I suppose that's about par for the course though.
I am not offended by Muslims marching on 9/11. I am offended by ANYONE marching on 9/11 who wasn't a direct victim of the events of that day, or is attempting to take advantage of its significance for media attention. That day BELONGS to the victims (many of whom, coincidentally, are Muslim). I say this as someone with close family ties to a victim. Do not try to make this day about anything aside from solemn remembrance.
While I am extremely sympathetic to the persecution that Muslims face in this country, I think this is a completely terrible idea. It's almost so terrible that I think it's being done by people who want to further damage the American Muslim community.
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Basically business as usual except Islam and 9/11.
Also marching for equal rights is divisive. Which is why everyone here widely condemned marching for gay rights, immigration rights and racial equality.
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I don't understand the message behind this command.
If it's a march demanding some respect and to not be considered terrorists just for their religion, the day in question seems the only appropriate one.
The Ailes Empire is gonna go ballistic though.
Makes perfect sense to me.
It is better to act than to just talk about it.
It is better to say something than to stay silent.
Staying silent but feeling that it is wrong is bullshit.
Why do you think Arabs are racially profiled?
Might it have something to do with an assumption that Arab = Muslim?
Institutional discrimination against Muslims in America: Go.
Look at their website for chrissakes. http://ampacus.webs.com/
Webs.com, really?
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