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  • CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Neco wrote: »
    Wow, so Bradley Manning is now calling herself Chelsea and is apparently going to try to transition in prison...

    That is um...probably going to be rough...

    Especially since the prison won't provide hormones.

    Wait it won't?

    I think we were all under the impression that it would?
    Manning's defence attorney David Coombs told NBC he is hoping officials at the military prison will accommodate Manning's request for hormone therapy.

    If not, "I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure they are forced to do so," Coombs said.

    The army said it does not provide hormone therapy or sex-reassignment surgery.

    "All inmates are considered soldiers and are treated as such with access to mental health professionals, including a psychiatrist, psychologist, social workers and behavioural science noncommissioned officers," army spokesman George Wright said.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/08/2013822153522726776.html

  • NecoNeco In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Neco wrote: »
    Wow, so Bradley Manning is now calling herself Chelsea and is apparently going to try to transition in prison...

    That is um...probably going to be rough...

    Especially since the prison won't provide hormones.

    Wait it won't?

    I think we were all under the impression that it would?

    I don't think so.
    "The Army does not provide hormone therapy or sex-reassignment surgery," Lt. Col. Justin Platt told CNN on Thursday.

    One Army official, who was not authorized to speak publicly about Manning's case, said the private remains a male in the eyes of the Army. Another said Manning would be treated like any other prisoner.

  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Like, if I have to choose between migraines and stones, it's tempting to say "the lack of migraines is worth it."

    However, kidney stones are a level of their own hell.

    So...

    so, the best example of pest eller kolera I've encountered.
    14696C3E4F7F262907B391

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  • Ravenhpltc24Ravenhpltc24 So Raven Registered User regular
    Good evening, [chat]. DRX is upstairs napping and seems pretty butthurt that I broke one of his Lego buildings. I have a long, unfortunate history of stepping on his Lego so now I am downstairs hiding and feeling bad. :(

    (V) ( ;,,; ) (V)
  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Neco wrote: »
    Wow, so Bradley Manning is now calling herself Chelsea and is apparently going to try to transition in prison...

    That is um...probably going to be rough...

    Especially since the prison won't provide hormones.

    i thought that prisons were required to aid people in gender transition now?

    wasn't this a recent court decision?

    There was one in some state for surgery last year, I don't actually know a lot about hormones.

  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Oh. Fucking awesome.

  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    Good evening, [chat]. DRX is upstairs napping and seems pretty butthurt that I broke one of his Lego buildings. I have a long, unfortunate history of stepping on his Lego so now I am downstairs hiding and feeling bad. :(

    get him back

    put a lego in his fleshlight

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Bethryn wrote: »
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    People focus way too much on "in the way guy" and completely ignore "oh fuck, someone shit their pants, gross" hipster girl on the right.

    Is there even a story to this?

    Someone posted it to reddit for karma, because in the way guy ruined their proposal pictures. People then took it to be a week-ish long meme there. It turns out, in the way guy was just in the way for one picture, and the OP was a big fat phony.

    There are so many things wrong with that story it's kind of amazing.

    Well I did paraphrase a reddit thread, you're surprised?

    Oh, I didn't mean your description.

    What I meant was, basically, there are several different ways to get a good proposal picture at Disneyland, and if you're completely clueless you can just ask one of the paid Disney photographers who meander around the park to help you.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    I looked through two pages of threads for the Obama administration one and thst's all I'm willing to do.



    But I am given to understand that syria's chemical attack was timed to the anniversary of Obama's "red line" statement.


    So that is a thing I am angry about.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Like, if I have to choose between migraines and stones, it's tempting to say "the lack of migraines is worth it."

    However, kidney stones are a level of their own hell.

    So...

    so, the best example of pest eller kolera I've encountered.
    14696C3E4F7F262907B391

    make me, amerikanische schweine

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    I don't know who the next Doctor is.

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    QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    edited August 2013
    Hi Dr. Nick!

    Man, that shit be ingrained, deep.

    Viskod on
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    I looked through two pages of threads for the Obama administration one and thst's all I'm willing to do.



    But I am given to understand that syria's chemical attack was timed to the anniversary of Obama's "red line" statement.


    So that is a thing I am angry about.

    man you almost gotta respect that kind of spite

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Tamin wrote: »
    DaemonSadi wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    working at the gamestop has thrown something minor into sharp relief

    I look at the nes, master system, snes, genesis, the n64, the nintendo (and sega) handheld line ... and I can't think of a single case of "end of cartridge one; insert next cartridge to continue". Golden Sun comes the closest, with part II being released a year or so later and with a system in place to port the character from part I over.

    And I look back at early PC games and remember swapping disks and discs as I reached new areas and notice that trend continued with all of the disc-based consoles (though I don't know about the ps3; I don't work in that area). A fair number of xb360 (being the group I handle most) games seem to have multiple discs, though I think in many cases the second disc is for multiplayer.

    Why the ... interruption in the cartridge era? Too difficult to hot-swap cartridges? Too expensive to print multiple cartridges?

    What sort of crazy Gamestop do you work at where they have different 'areas'?

    refurb operations center

    you trade in a game to a gamestop and the disc or case looks bad? It gets sent to the center, and we either toss them out, repair them, or send them through a cleaning process and return them to the retail locations.

    That makes much more sense.

  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Neco wrote: »
    Wow, so Bradley Manning is now calling herself Chelsea and is apparently going to try to transition in prison...

    That is um...probably going to be rough...

    Especially since the prison won't provide hormones.

    i thought that prisons were required to aid people in gender transition now?

    wasn't this a recent court decision?

    There was one in some state for surgery last year, I don't actually know a lot about hormones.

    Michelle Kosilek, in Massachusetts.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Good luck, Pony.

    Migraines fucking suck and while I've never had kidney stones, I understand that they are on the tier of ultimate unpleasantness. I'm sorry Topamax is messing with that.

    Seems like all the migraine medications cause a rise in kidney stones to some degree.

    The solutions I've seen include cutting out meat and drinking tons of water to fix it.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    of course ideally it would be like going

    "you got hella courage, kid, I'll give you that" and then beating said person to a pulp



    my point is I think we're definitely past the point where intervening will make things worse

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    I was actually talking about after college and dealing with finding a job. Like what the is the etiquette for dealing with recruiters? Also I can't do it during the transition periods because I will be at home during those and my family doesn't know.

    Bowen, sorry it took me a while to respond, but I had to go to my next class. Really I don't think there is a best time to transition because the whole process takes years. And while my school will probably be supportive, I am scared of coming out to individual teachers, and the teacher who handles teaching professional etiquette is also my auditing professor, which makes it hard to ask for specific advice. Plus, there is a chance that if I do come out to the school, they will cut some of my medical benefits since they are unwilling to pay for any treatment tied to "gender identity disorder." But I can deal with those problems, I think. I have no idea how I should be approaching meeting my recruiters, or my summer internship, or just finding a job after school.

    What

    Such bullshit

    But I guess bureaucrats know psychology better than doctors so

    (ugh)

    Yeah. It's why my therapy is for anxiety and my trip to the endo was for a wellness checkup.

    Most psych people I've had list gender stuff as "anxiety"

    Most medical people list gender stuff as "endocrine disorder not otherwise specified"

    Which is totally fucked because it's necessary for plenty of insurances.

    how should it be classified?

    Well, at the moment I'm not sure since they are moving to the DSM

    But there is an actual code for gender identity disorder.

    It's just that unfortunately most insurance companies don't cover it so professionals code it as something different (to be clear, still something the person has but not necessarily the most precise code).

    You see the same thing with other disorders sometimes: ADHD will be classed as other stuff that's concurrent with it but not necessarily the point of the visit.

    Basically fuck insurance

    fuck gendered marketing
  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    spool32 wrote: »
    I looked through two pages of threads for the Obama administration one and thst's all I'm willing to do.



    But I am given to understand that syria's chemical attack was timed to the anniversary of Obama's "red line" statement.


    So that is a thing I am angry about.

    This is grimly amusing to me.

    Rhetoric and rattling whee.

  • CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Neco wrote: »
    Wow, so Bradley Manning is now calling herself Chelsea and is apparently going to try to transition in prison...

    That is um...probably going to be rough...

    Especially since the prison won't provide hormones.

    i thought that prisons were required to aid people in gender transition now?

    wasn't this a recent court decision?

    There was one in some state for surgery last year, I don't actually know a lot about hormones.

    The surgery one is still on appeals. It could be a while before that is fully decided.

  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Feral wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Neco wrote: »
    Wow, so Bradley Manning is now calling herself Chelsea and is apparently going to try to transition in prison...

    That is um...probably going to be rough...

    Especially since the prison won't provide hormones.

    i thought that prisons were required to aid people in gender transition now?

    wasn't this a recent court decision?

    There was one in some state for surgery last year, I don't actually know a lot about hormones.

    Michelle Kosilek, in Massachusetts.

    That's the one.

    There was a thread for it.

    I came back to the forum right then by coincidence so that was my first string of many awesomes in one post.

  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Elldren wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    I was actually talking about after college and dealing with finding a job. Like what the is the etiquette for dealing with recruiters? Also I can't do it during the transition periods because I will be at home during those and my family doesn't know.

    Bowen, sorry it took me a while to respond, but I had to go to my next class. Really I don't think there is a best time to transition because the whole process takes years. And while my school will probably be supportive, I am scared of coming out to individual teachers, and the teacher who handles teaching professional etiquette is also my auditing professor, which makes it hard to ask for specific advice. Plus, there is a chance that if I do come out to the school, they will cut some of my medical benefits since they are unwilling to pay for any treatment tied to "gender identity disorder." But I can deal with those problems, I think. I have no idea how I should be approaching meeting my recruiters, or my summer internship, or just finding a job after school.

    What

    Such bullshit

    But I guess bureaucrats know psychology better than doctors so

    (ugh)

    Yeah. It's why my therapy is for anxiety and my trip to the endo was for a wellness checkup.

    Most psych people I've had list gender stuff as "anxiety"

    Most medical people list gender stuff as "endocrine disorder not otherwise specified"

    Which is totally fucked because it's necessary for plenty of insurances.

    how should it be classified?

    Well, at the moment I'm not sure since they are moving to the DSM

    But there is an actual code for gender identity disorder.

    It's just that unfortunately most insurance companies don't cover it so professionals code it as something different (to be clear, still something the person has but not necessarily the most precise code).

    You see the same thing with other disorders sometimes: ADHD will be classed as other stuff that's concurrent with it but not necessarily the point of the visit.

    Basically fuck insurance

    Oh god yes. Things I'm never going to forget from working with a doctor: that.
    Cinders wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Neco wrote: »
    Wow, so Bradley Manning is now calling herself Chelsea and is apparently going to try to transition in prison...

    That is um...probably going to be rough...

    Especially since the prison won't provide hormones.

    i thought that prisons were required to aid people in gender transition now?

    wasn't this a recent court decision?

    There was one in some state for surgery last year, I don't actually know a lot about hormones.

    The surgery one is still on appeals. It could be a while before that is fully decided.

    Oh. I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous.

  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    I was actually talking about after college and dealing with finding a job. Like what the is the etiquette for dealing with recruiters? Also I can't do it during the transition periods because I will be at home during those and my family doesn't know.

    Bowen, sorry it took me a while to respond, but I had to go to my next class. Really I don't think there is a best time to transition because the whole process takes years. And while my school will probably be supportive, I am scared of coming out to individual teachers, and the teacher who handles teaching professional etiquette is also my auditing professor, which makes it hard to ask for specific advice. Plus, there is a chance that if I do come out to the school, they will cut some of my medical benefits since they are unwilling to pay for any treatment tied to "gender identity disorder." But I can deal with those problems, I think. I have no idea how I should be approaching meeting my recruiters, or my summer internship, or just finding a job after school.

    What

    Such bullshit

    But I guess bureaucrats know psychology better than doctors so

    (ugh)

    Yeah. It's why my therapy is for anxiety and my trip to the endo was for a wellness checkup.

    Most psych people I've had list gender stuff as "anxiety"

    Most medical people list gender stuff as "endocrine disorder not otherwise specified"

    Which is totally fucked because it's necessary for plenty of insurances.

    how should it be classified?

    ICD-9 302.50 - "Trans-sexualism NOS"
    ICD-10 F64.1 - "Gender identity disorder in adolescence and adulthood"
    DSM - "Fuck the DSM"

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    It's a bloody way to say Fuck You, that is certain.

  • descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    " is truly the Murphy Brown of the deep"

    I chuckled

  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    I have no idea if insurance companies largely cover treatments for those ICD codes.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they usually don't.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Regarding swapping cartridges, the cartridge would actually be a part of the system when you turned it on. As in, it's functionally a part of the processing core. The cart doesn't just store data, especially when specialized hardware, like Nintendo's 'FX Chip' pushed 3d gaming. They were able to place a 3D accelerator in the cart because the cart behaves as a part of a unified processing whole.

    Expanding this, theoretically, you could have a cartridge be as large as you needed (depending on the support of the system).

    So, swapping a cartridge out is unnecessary, and also, would probably break the system. You could, however, place a connector at the top of the cartridge and have the user swap in and out as necessary.

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    and kids will think it's really freaking cool

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    I listened to Robert Mood, norwegian general and head of the UN observators in Syria talk about international armed intervention in general and also Syria in particular

    quote I remember is "Saudi-Arabia and Iran are willing to fight to the last Syrian"

    you gotta be lucky

    in Syria the dictator is russia's friend, in Egypt the dictator was america's friend

    basically if you want intervention you gotta have somebody like gadaffi who managed to eventually piss off everyone

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Yeah a lot of cultures actually have very interesting trans-gender constructions (that hyphen is there because I don't mean transgender in the usual sense) that don't tend to be widely known.

    It's actually relatively common

    Just, you know

    not relatively common in modern western civ

    fuck gendered marketing
  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Feral, I approve of your new sig.

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    heh i just told myself i'd mow the lawn when it's 3 o'clock

    oh time. why are you flying. make that 3:30 then

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    heh i just told myself i'd mow the lawn when it's 3 o'clock

    oh time. why are you flying. make that 3:30 then

    Just tell your neighbors this year is the fallow crop year.

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Feral wrote: »
    I have no idea if insurance companies largely cover treatments for those ICD codes.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they usually don't.

    I think they largely don't.

    I know it was a big deal when California passed a thing basically saying "if you cover this for anyone it has to be covered for trans people."

    E.G., if you cover estrogen for post menopausal women you have to cover it for trans women. If you cover breast augments for mastectomy patients, same deal.

  • kaleeditykaleedity Sometimes science is more art than science Registered User regular
    just lost a longterm political battle on our work project

    the opposing arguments, paraphrased:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeRQD0tK8h0

  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Elldren wrote: »
    Shivahn wrote: »
    Yeah a lot of cultures actually have very interesting trans-gender constructions (that hyphen is there because I don't mean transgender in the usual sense) that don't tend to be widely known.

    It's actually relatively common

    Just, you know

    not relatively common in modern western civ

    Yeah that's what I was trying to communicate.

    Western civ has done a great job of erasing things that didn't fit.

  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    of course ideally it would be like going

    "you got hella courage, kid, I'll give you that" and then beating said person to a pulp



    my point is I think we're definitely past the point where intervening will make things worse

    no one's really holding their breath waiting for norway to intervene

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I have no idea if insurance companies largely cover treatments for those ICD codes.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they usually don't.

    fuck insurance!

    it is my new mantra

    lots of insurance also starts going "hey, those amphetamines are expensive..."

    fuck insurance!

    fuck gendered marketing
  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
  • CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    It's kind of sad that out of all the news reports that I've seen about Manning today, only two have actually gendered her right. And one of those is the Daily Mail.

  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Cinders wrote: »
    It's kind of sad that out of all the news reports that I've seen about Manning today, only two have actually gendered her right. And one of those is the Daily Mail.

    o_O

    WHAT IS GOING ON

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