But if you go 3/1 in lane with 180 cs and your opponent is 1/1.
And your mid is killing.
and your bot is 0/10.
I'm wondering how you're supposed to carry at that point.
So you're top lane and you're crushing, GREAT! What's next? Did you take your turret? Did you roam mid/bot to secure kills/objectives? Are you Singed, proxy farming their fountain?
JUST winning top is only good if you're some super farm carry like jax or irelia or Nasus. Otherwise you need to win top AND exert pressure over the map by either a hard split push or timely roaming.
Also today I had some excellent supports in ranked.
It's like they came to me and said "Hello, babby. Here you go, eat this champion and this minion and this tower. There you go, don't spit it up, I know it feels strange.
Also spell shielding Zed ulti and then shitting on his face is pretty awesome
But if you go 3/1 in lane with 180 cs and your opponent is 1/1.
And your mid is killing.
and your bot is 0/10.
I'm wondering how you're supposed to carry at that point.
Murder their carries faster than they murder yours.
That's how you play. One person on their team with all the gold? Make that person your toy. Kill them always and forever. Focus them down whenever they show up. You remove half their teams gold and they aren't so scary.
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Back down to Gold I 0 LP, right where the fuck I belong I guess. Lose next game and get demoted, so scared to play.
Just don't fucking understand.
Game 1 today, didn't play great, but Galio was riding my nuts from literally level 4 onward, critiquing my play, begging for ganks, critiquing my item build, begging for ganks, getting caught, begging for ganks. Meanwhile I got us a kill on top, two kills on bot, bot tower, and a dragon. And he is still riding my nuts and causing me to tilt. Team starts the stupidest fucking fights when I am not in position to do anything and I can never get ults off properly.
Game 2, super fat Cho, dumped on Malphite, won lane by 20 CS, a kill, and took the tower. Also stopped him from teleporting into other fights because of constant lane pressure and interrupting his lane TP with Rupture. Didn't matter, rest of team fed Ezreal so hard, then Malph and Zac built nothing but armor and our Tristana didn't have LW complete at 40 minute. There goes my 100% top lane win rate. : ( Maybe I should have gone AS Cho like I originally wanted to or bursty AP Cho instead of tank Cho but well we had a fairly mediocre Nocturne and that's it for frontline. =/
I love it when people try to invade my jungle , Trundle does not give a fuck who you are he is going to kick you right back out. Unless its being camped by double buff shaco. Fuck that .
I'm surprised I don't see more trundle. I've seen 2 recently. And they shocked the shit out of me with their dueling/damage. I'm not sure or he just falls off hard late game or what, but he went from this scary monster to almost un noticeable. Both times trundles teams seemed bad, but he is scary early.
He can't stick to people super well and no proper gapcloser hurts him. But if they stand and fight he will mess them up
I gotta second @skippydumptruck in his joy of ice-dicking.
Trundle may not stick well to people, but people stick well to ice dicks.
Either they try running through and get fucked.
Or they try running around and get just as fucked.
The frequency of said ice dicks may be an issue, though.
God, why did I left myself get talked into ranked. Nothing is worth this.
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Yes, I won a ranked game!
Now I have 19 points and still have almost zero chance of reaching gold by the end of October
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Play more Janna. q,e,w R>W>E>Q. Buy Ruby Sight Stone, Oracles, Morellonomicon, Deathcap, and more oracles. Don't buy boots. Make sure you have 10% CDR from masteries and run balls to the wall AP runes.
Hello thread. I finally got around to downloading Lolreplay. If anyone has the time to spare, this is a Nami ranked game. Felt I did well, but would love it if someone could give me some pointers. Also, apologies that this is not in spectator mode, I cant afford the bandwidth jump.
Anyone got any advice for jungle vi builds? I've been going madreds>BotrK>Locket>Tanky, but there is a large period between madreds and BotrK that I feel squishy as all hell, even with 21 defense and armor and mr runes. I find if I go straight tanky out of madreds I don't have the necessary damage to secure my ganks. Would triforce be a viable option? I know the mana and ap is mostly wasted but I could use the early stickiness and hp. Are there any other items I'm overlooking? Any general vi advice?
Forgot to screencap, so you'll have to take my word for it, racked up 23 kills as Singed top lane tonight. My buddy cop Zed got 25. Suffice to say, the other team's tops kept us well fed
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Anyone got any advice for jungle vi builds? I've been going madreds>BotrK>Locket>Tanky, but there is a large period between madreds and BotrK that I feel squishy as all hell, even with 21 defense and armor and mr runes. I find if I go straight tanky out of madreds I don't have the necessary damage to secure my ganks. Would triforce be a viable option? I know the mana and ap is mostly wasted but I could use the early stickiness and hp. Are there any other items I'm overlooking? Any general vi advice?
Try Spirit of Ancient Golem instead of Madreds, then carry on.
Anyone got any advice for jungle vi builds? I've been going madreds>BotrK>Locket>Tanky, but there is a large period between madreds and BotrK that I feel squishy as all hell, even with 21 defense and armor and mr runes. I find if I go straight tanky out of madreds I don't have the necessary damage to secure my ganks. Would triforce be a viable option? I know the mana and ap is mostly wasted but I could use the early stickiness and hp. Are there any other items I'm overlooking? Any general vi advice?
Vi jungle is best played tanky. You need it to be a super scary frontline. As awesome as BotrK is for her, it's a huge money sink that does not give you what your team needs. Your base damages are great and your armor shred helps your laner take kills. Get Ancient Golem, then phage and brutalizer. Now you are tankier, incredibly bursty, sticky and ignore armor.
Vi is weird, because she looks like she would benefit from attack speed, but she is actually best played as a caster, building AD and armor pen. And her best role is as tanky disruptor, so building some defense is very important. Anything that gives HP is godly on her, because her shield will benefit too. Then you go into the fight, with Q, ult and cripple the ADC then punch things until you are taken down, then your team cleans up. Optionally you can Q away or flash before dying once they have blown a lot on you and your shield is on CD.
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Yeah nevermind, lost our next ranked game horribly, team failed horribly in teamfights.
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Vi jungle is best played tanky. You need it to be a super scary frontline. As awesome as BotrK is for her, it's a huge money sink that does not give you what your team needs. Your base damages are great and your armor shred helps your laner take kills. Get Ancient Golem, then phage and brutalizer. Now you are tankier, incredibly bursty, sticky and ignore armor.
Vi is weird, because she looks like she would benefit from attack speed, but she is actually best played as a caster, building AD and armor pen. And her best role is as tanky disruptor, so building some defense is very important. Anything that gives HP is godly on her, because her shield will benefit too. Then you go into the fight, with Q, ult and cripple the ADC then punch things until you are taken down, then your team cleans up. Optionally you can Q away or flash before dying once they have blown a lot on you and your shield is on CD.
Holy goose you guys were right. I just played a game rushing Ancient Golem and all of my squishy problems go away. Thanks!
...Is there any way to make Akali's Shadow Dance stacks stack faster? Does CDR do it?
I've been on a tear with Akali tonight, but I always find myself feeling limited by those stacks (...which I guess is the idea, but still! I WANT IT TO STACK FASTER!)
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There needs to be a Hellfire Brand skin
and it needs to play that song for your everyone whenever you get a kill. I will pay many cash moneys for this.
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Pretty excited for this. As much as Cloud 9 and Vulcun shook up NA, a direct injection of Korea might help stir things up even more. A small step, but a crucial one.
Interesting thing I'm noticing about gold ranked games is that they're very, very snowbally. I'm seeing way more teams wind up with almost everyone being 0/X than I ever did in bronze or silver.
I guess this is where people have figured out how to hammer home advantages.
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For jungle Vi, I'd recommend:
Ancient Golem - hp, cdr, tenacity
Ninja Tabi - armour, auto reduction
Black Cleaver - cdr, armour pen, damage
Locket otIS - cdr, MR, hp, armour, shield
Iceborn Gauntlet - cdr, armour, extra damage every e
Last Whisper - armour pen, damage
Not necessarily in that order. But you get 40% CDR which is great because Vi loves to disrupt fights with Q and R, as well as a mix of stats necessary to stay threatening while also diving through enemy teams.
I love it when people try to invade my jungle , Trundle does not give a fuck who you are he is going to kick you right back out. Unless its being camped by double buff shaco. Fuck that .
I'm surprised I don't see more trundle. I've seen 2 recently. And they shocked the shit out of me with their dueling/damage. I'm not sure or he just falls off hard late game or what, but he went from this scary monster to almost un noticeable. Both times trundles teams seemed bad, but he is scary early.
I love Trundle jungle. So what if he's a little boring. You get a BORK on him with some tank items and good luck killing him. His cleartime's a little slow but the bite helps. I've seen him do terrible things as a top laner though with his bite and splitpushing.
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Today's magical adventures include having to take Sona top because somebody else on my team didn't notice I'd taken support... and they then gave an enemy Vayne ten kills in bot
Today's magical adventures include having to take Sona top because somebody else on my team didn't notice I'd taken support... and they then gave an enemy Vayne ten kills in bot
I actually did alright, which surprised me a bit
Sona is a really strong, abusive laner. Her weakness is her lack of mobility but if they don't have a pick+cc jungler or you ward well she can take a shit all over standard laners due to her insane poke and sustain. Rush Lichbane/athene's melt faces.
...Is there any way to make Akali's Shadow Dance stacks stack faster? Does CDR do it?
I've been on a tear with Akali tonight, but I always find myself feeling limited by those stacks (...which I guess is the idea, but still! I WANT IT TO STACK FASTER!)
Rylai's is a strong item choice for Akali. Might help.
Pretty excited for this. As much as Cloud 9 and Vulcun shook up NA, a direct injection of Korea might help stir things up even more. A small step, but a crucial one.
Could not agree more man. This is what a small part of me had hoped when the Visa thing came round. that a smaller KR team would do this. Man this might really push the NA teams to adapt, I totally believe that NA has talent pool that are fully capable of being a top 3 team, they just need that push.
Today's magical adventures include having to take Sona top because somebody else on my team didn't notice I'd taken support... and they then gave an enemy Vayne ten kills in bot
I actually did alright, which surprised me a bit
Sona is a really strong, abusive laner. Her weakness is her lack of mobility but if they don't have a pick+cc jungler or you ward well she can take a shit all over standard laners due to her insane poke and sustain. Rush Lichbane/athene's melt faces.
Well, their jungler was Vi and I was running support masteries, so it wasn't optimal. I was also laning against Nasus, so he just rushed Spirit Visage and could sustain through pretty much everything I threw at him.
It probably would have been fine if Vayne wasn't running around with fifteen kills by the end of laning phase, but alas. I might try Sona in a solo lane a bit more often, it was pretty fun.
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I know that ELO hell is kind of a stupid concept.
But if you go 3/1 in lane with 180 cs and your opponent is 1/1.
And your mid is killing.
and your bot is 0/10.
I'm wondering how you're supposed to carry at that point.
So you're top lane and you're crushing, GREAT! What's next? Did you take your turret? Did you roam mid/bot to secure kills/objectives? Are you Singed, proxy farming their fountain?
JUST winning top is only good if you're some super farm carry like jax or irelia or Nasus. Otherwise you need to win top AND exert pressure over the map by either a hard split push or timely roaming.
Also today I had some excellent supports in ranked.
It's like they came to me and said "Hello, babby. Here you go, eat this champion and this minion and this tower. There you go, don't spit it up, I know it feels strange.
Also spell shielding Zed ulti and then shitting on his face is pretty awesome
Murder their carries faster than they murder yours.
That's how you play. One person on their team with all the gold? Make that person your toy. Kill them always and forever. Focus them down whenever they show up. You remove half their teams gold and they aren't so scary.
Pfft. What else are you supposed to do when the toilet backs up?
Yelling at butts will never NOT be funny. Thanks, Psy!
Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!
I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.
Just don't fucking understand.
Game 1 today, didn't play great, but Galio was riding my nuts from literally level 4 onward, critiquing my play, begging for ganks, critiquing my item build, begging for ganks, getting caught, begging for ganks. Meanwhile I got us a kill on top, two kills on bot, bot tower, and a dragon. And he is still riding my nuts and causing me to tilt. Team starts the stupidest fucking fights when I am not in position to do anything and I can never get ults off properly.
Game 2, super fat Cho, dumped on Malphite, won lane by 20 CS, a kill, and took the tower. Also stopped him from teleporting into other fights because of constant lane pressure and interrupting his lane TP with Rupture. Didn't matter, rest of team fed Ezreal so hard, then Malph and Zac built nothing but armor and our Tristana didn't have LW complete at 40 minute. There goes my 100% top lane win rate. : ( Maybe I should have gone AS Cho like I originally wanted to or bursty AP Cho instead of tank Cho but well we had a fairly mediocre Nocturne and that's it for frontline. =/
May as well just take your lumps as they come.
I gotta second @skippydumptruck in his joy of ice-dicking.
Trundle may not stick well to people, but people stick well to ice dicks.
Either they try running through and get fucked.
Or they try running around and get just as fucked.
The frequency of said ice dicks may be an issue, though.
Yelling at butts will never NOT be funny. Thanks, Psy!
Also, Abby is awesome. Keep up with TLH because it's the tits!
I love League of Legends, but seriously...screw you, Teemo.
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If you have original Trundle then Triforce is acceptable.
Now I have 19 points and still have almost zero chance of reaching gold by the end of October
Own face. Own lots of face.
Problem solved.
It seems that this is because the file on my computer is corrupted. Sorry, still new to this.
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Try Spirit of Ancient Golem instead of Madreds, then carry on.
He's good.
Vi jungle is best played tanky. You need it to be a super scary frontline. As awesome as BotrK is for her, it's a huge money sink that does not give you what your team needs. Your base damages are great and your armor shred helps your laner take kills. Get Ancient Golem, then phage and brutalizer. Now you are tankier, incredibly bursty, sticky and ignore armor.
Vi is weird, because she looks like she would benefit from attack speed, but she is actually best played as a caster, building AD and armor pen. And her best role is as tanky disruptor, so building some defense is very important. Anything that gives HP is godly on her, because her shield will benefit too. Then you go into the fight, with Q, ult and cripple the ADC then punch things until you are taken down, then your team cleans up. Optionally you can Q away or flash before dying once they have blown a lot on you and your shield is on CD.
Holy goose you guys were right. I just played a game rushing Ancient Golem and all of my squishy problems go away. Thanks!
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This is going to be a fun season 4.
I've been on a tear with Akali tonight, but I always find myself feeling limited by those stacks (...which I guess is the idea, but still! I WANT IT TO STACK FASTER!)
and it needs to play that song for your everyone whenever you get a kill. I will pay many cash moneys for this.
I guess this is where people have figured out how to hammer home advantages.
Ancient Golem - hp, cdr, tenacity
Ninja Tabi - armour, auto reduction
Black Cleaver - cdr, armour pen, damage
Locket otIS - cdr, MR, hp, armour, shield
Iceborn Gauntlet - cdr, armour, extra damage every e
Last Whisper - armour pen, damage
Not necessarily in that order. But you get 40% CDR which is great because Vi loves to disrupt fights with Q and R, as well as a mix of stats necessary to stay threatening while also diving through enemy teams.
I love Trundle jungle. So what if he's a little boring. You get a BORK on him with some tank items and good luck killing him. His cleartime's a little slow but the bite helps. I've seen him do terrible things as a top laner though with his bite and splitpushing.
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And our Draven had a ping of 400.
That was something.
I actually did alright, which surprised me a bit
Rylai's is a strong item choice for Akali. Might help.
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and tonight? I will attempt Trikali. :twisted:
Could not agree more man. This is what a small part of me had hoped when the Visa thing came round. that a smaller KR team would do this. Man this might really push the NA teams to adapt, I totally believe that NA has talent pool that are fully capable of being a top 3 team, they just need that push.
Well, their jungler was Vi and I was running support masteries, so it wasn't optimal. I was also laning against Nasus, so he just rushed Spirit Visage and could sustain through pretty much everything I threw at him.
It probably would have been fine if Vayne wasn't running around with fifteen kills by the end of laning phase, but alas. I might try Sona in a solo lane a bit more often, it was pretty fun.