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[Star Wars X-Wing] Wave 7 and New Core in stores! PA Vassal League Season 3 now forming!

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2015
    Heh, got bored and took a raider, decimator, and tie advanced up against two k-wings (TLT), 2 b-wings (HLC), 2 awing, and a gr-75. Started up decently with things going well for the imps, taking out a b-wing. Until I misjudged the distance on my decimator and it got ran over by the gr-75 (Which makes no sense, considering it has more hull and shields than the cargo ship) on the same turn the advanced got blown out of the sky.
    After second turn;
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    Right before boom
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    I then got greedy with the cargo ship while trying to ram the raider for the free crit card, and accidentally ran over one of my k-wing's.

    The raider then spent the rest of the game benny hillying it across the map, trying to repair as much damage with the welding bot as it could to stay alive, while still taking shots. It actually got it down to just him and the cargo ship, where I called it since there was no way for the rebel side to win.

    The k-wing's with the TLT were doing a lot of damage, although I think I would have dropped the non-miranda k-wing for a y-wing with TLT and a astro instead, and the a-wings for another similar y-wing. The three of them are pretty good damage and very durable.

    I agree on the raider for the same reason, it's damage is just very anemic since you can only get 1 target lock, and can have 5 attacks in a turn. I would rather just have 3-4 decimator's instead. You get far more durability, and better damage output. All you lose is the possible sustain from being able to repair yourself, and some range.

    Instead of a give a free action to a ship, it should have had a focus token action that affects all the attacks it makes that round.

    I also have a hard time judging where a turn is going to take the ship.

    Morkath on
    Sokpuppet
  • Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    That's tye first time I've seen huge ships next to the smaller ones. Jesus suffering Fuck that's a big fucking ship.

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  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    The x1 title is amazing and really put the advanced in a very solid position. I hope the same thing gets done for the defender at some point (although hopefully not packaged with a huge ship).
    The only bad part is, it does make the advanced prototype in the next wave seem far less interesting, since it can't use it.

    @Sokpuppet
    Anything specific for the Hawk that the TLT does better than in say, a Y-wing?

    The HWK (with TLT) is two points cheaper for identical damage output and very comparable durability.
    It is really hard to want to chase down a Spice Runner or Rebel Operative while Bossk or IG-88 floats around dealing death, but if you ignore the HWK to deal with bigger threats it just sits there pumping out damage - you are basically ceding them two free points. It's a Teemo problem; screwed if you chase, screwed if you don't.

    The other thing is the Crew slot, which is extremely versatile. You can toss a Recon Specialist in there and have focus tokens for defense and possibly your attacks. You can toss Bossk in there and light people up. Jan Ors, Greedo, Lando, whatever. It's just really cheap and effective in a wide variety of situations.

    The Twin Laser Turret is awesome on the Y-wing too, but it has slightly different applications. Nobody is going to hesitate much before chasing down a Y-wing with a TLT.

    Morkath
  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2015
    That's tye first time I've seen huge ships next to the smaller ones. Jesus suffering Fuck that's a big fucking ship.

    Canon wise, the scary thing? It is only 150m long.

    The imperial star destroyer is over 1k meters long. I can't imagine attacking something like that in an A-wing, it would probably feel like throwing rocks at the empire state building.

    Morkath on
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  • Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    That's still 3 1/2 football fields. That's a hell of a size difference. But I've never seen the actual game ship next tothe smaller ships as a size reference. Up to this point, I thought the big ships were the Falcon and Slave V (?) but even they would be dwarfed by that ship.

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    The Slave 1, and ah yeah. They are.

    The decimator (right in front of the raider) in my screenshots above are about the size of a falcon/slave 1, so you can see the difference.

  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular

    So I've only collected casually, I have a starter, a phantom, a y wing, a hwk and a b wing

    What onw or two things should I get to flesh out and have something I could play with at a games shop

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2015
    Which faction do you want to play as?

    Without knowing what you want, I would say maybe a k-wing and a slave-1?

    Rebel side you can run B-Wing w/HLC, K-Wing with TLT, Hawk w/TLT and some other random upgrades.

    The Slave-1 can be used with both Imp's and scum, but you would need a most wanted pack to convert your y-wing and hawk to scum versions.

    You could run something like this with the k-wing/slave-1, not the most competitive, but decent.

    Imp:
    “Echo” (42)
    TIE Phantom (30), Gunner (5), Fire-Control System (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

    Krassis Trelix (46)
    Firespray-31 (36), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Proximity Mines (3)

    Academy Pilot (12)


    Rebel:
    Keyan Farlander (38)
    B-Wing (29), Fire-Control System (2), Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

    Miranda Doni (40)
    K-Wing (29), Twin Laser Turret (6), Proximity Mines (3), Advanced SLAM (2)

    Rebel Operative (22)
    HWK-290 (16), Twin Laser Turret (6)

    Morkath on
    ElvenshaeSokpuppet
  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    So I've only collected casually, I have a starter, a phantom, a y wing, a hwk and a b wing

    What one or two things should I get to flesh out and have something I could play with at a games shop

    The Most Wanted box would be a great option for you.
    It comes with a bunch of new things for the Y-wing & HWK, cards for the Firespray, an additional Y-wing, and two Z-95 Headhunters. If you do pick up Most Wanted, the next obvious step would be to snag the Hound's Tooth or a Firespray to round out your Scum lists.

    Other good options would be a K-wing (goodies for the Y-wing, HWK, and B-wing) or a VT-49 Decimator (pairs well with the Phantom).

  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Speaking of big ships, can we talk about how big the K-wing is?
    It's ... gigantic. And just to remind you, it is a small base ship.

    It's bigger than a b-wing:
    IMG_3484-960.jpg

    It's bigger than a Starviper:
    IMG_3489-960.jpg

    Is it... bigger than an Agressor, which is a large base ship?
    IMG_3495-960.jpg

    Wait, really?
    Yes really.
    IMG_3496-960.jpg

    What about a Yt-2400?
    Ok it's a little bit smaller, but it is pretty close.
    IMG_3497a-960.jpg

    Here it is on a large base, just to see how it would look:
    IMG_3498a-960.jpg

    It overhangs on the sides, but doesn't fill up the whole space. Still, this thing is just huge.

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    Morkathcrimsoncoyote
  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2015
    Yeah, I thought the same exact thing when I first got mine. The only thing I can think of is, they didn't want to give it the extra speed making it a large ship would give it? It's dial is already super small, taking off the 3's would make it really hard for the opponent to not be able to guess which way you were going.

    Technically it is a fighter though, most of it's size is just wings to hold all the explosives. The Aggressor is actually cargo space. If you take off the wings, its basically the same size as a B-Wing.

    e:
    Now compare the punisher. THAT thing is huge, it is literally as big as the Aggressor. :P

    Morkath on
  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Oops I own a squint not a phantom

    But yeah most wanted sounds alright

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Get most wanted and a k-wing then. The TLT are good for the ywing and hawk.

    You won't have the HLC but can run ion instead.

  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    why is the K-wing so big. that is nuts
    Oops I own a squint not a phantom

    But yeah most wanted sounds alright

    alternatively Rebel Aces is a good next step for rebel lists, it expands what you can do with B-wings, like letting you add a crew upgrade to them (and kind of pulled A-wings out of the gutter by making them cheaper)

    http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/Rebel_Aces_Expansion_Pack

    plus then you would have both Jan Ors cards, y'know. If that's something you're into.

    Most Wanted is a very throrough Scum starter kit though, which'll do a lot for your HWK and Y-wing, that's a pretty good thing. A large ship might also be interesting, they typically come with a lot of upgrades you can apply to small ships as well.

  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    Snuck in a game with the Punisher this evening.
    "Deathrain" is a lot of fun to fly.
    He managed to pop off four Seismic Charges and two Homing Missiles and nearly closed out a game against a Kihraxz, a Headhunter, and a Hound all by his lonesome.
    Ironically I would have won if I'd packed even more missiles...
    or if the ones I'd brought had performed a lil' better. Concussion Missiles next time, I think.

    Sokpuppet on
    crimsoncoyote
  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    oh god the new starter set had a stealth launch

    we've all been played for fools

    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/9/4/man-your-ships/

    MegaMekDarkPrimus
  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Fuck they don't even say where it is available at. Lame.

  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    Fuck they don't even say where it is available at. Lame.

    apparently "force friday" is a thing that's been hyped up a lot if you are really excited about buying toys for a movie that is not out yet

    ...like i am, now

    http://www.idigitaltimes.com/force-friday-midnight-release-locations-target-toysrus-disney-store-and-more-open-471958

    there's a target 12 miles from me that does it, so i guess that's what's happening tomorrow

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2015
    I knew about force friday, I never saw any mention of new FFG stuff being released.
    Does Target even carry the FFG stuff? Their website doesn't list any.

    Morkath on
  • MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    Aww, they aren't on Amazon yet :sad:

    Is time a gift or punishment?
  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    Grapevine says a couple weeks for release to normal vendors.

    I'm not exactly frantic.
    The new stuff is cool, but there is a lot of other new stuff.

    Sokpuppet on
    crimsoncoyote
  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Yeah, I only really wanted to grab one tomorrow if possible, because I was planning on sitting down to paint my imps this weekend, and wanted the two extra tie's around when i did it.

    SokpuppetElvenshae
  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    I've made a couple of attempts at painting Imperials.
    Some were not totally disastrous, but all ended in jars of Simple Green.
    The XWMG stuff seems to respond best to inks.

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    I have a blue wash I was going to try using. Not going to repaint the entirety of the models, models. Mostly just the edges or solar panels of the TIE's.

    I might try fully painting my Lambda's because I hate the all white.

  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    I knew about force friday, I never saw any mention of new FFG stuff being released.
    Does Target even carry the FFG stuff? Their website doesn't list any.

    they carry the starter set at least, yeah. It's up now, if it wasn't before. link

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Now I feel retroactively pretty smart for not picking up a second regular starter. :)

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  • italianranmaitalianranma Registered User regular
    Alternatively, you could be smart like me and buy two copies of the Force Awakens starter set to match the two copies of the original starter set because I need all the minis.

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  • AegeriAegeri Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    I've been curious about this game for a while, but not going to lie: I just want the models for my star wars RPG.

    I'm prepared for the pain this will cause my wallet...

    Because those big ships are so great looking.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I've been curious about this game for a while, but not going to lie: I just want the models for my star wars RPG.

    I'm prepared for the pain this will cause my wallet...

    Because those big ships are so great looking.

    @Aegeri

    If all you're looking for is models for the RPG, the old WOTC Starfighter Battles miniatures work well for that and are a lot cheaper, in addition to having a wider range of craft available. Mostly available on eBay now.

    If aught else, use the FFG ships for your PCs and elite enemies and the WOTC ships for mooks.

  • AegeriAegeri Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    I probably won't be able to find WOTC Starfighter miniatures easily and I actually really like the FFG ones. I actually don't need a massive model count, because I can call on 3 people I know to make a combined fleet if required.

    The trick is how I represent a star destroyer...

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    To scale?

    Make it out of cardboard. Just the raised bridge section is around 3ft I think.

    Elvenshae
  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Just buy a different scaled model and put it on another table. Tell them not to go near it. If they DO make an attack run on one, use a playmat:
    http://www.gf9.com/Default.aspx?tabid=348&art_id=4160
    Because that's the difference in scale between a fighter and a Star Destroyer.

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  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    Another option would be to check Shapeways. Lots of quality 3d printed Star Wars minis available there.
    Might be cheaper, might not. I dunno.

    ElvenshaeFuselage
  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    I was just going to suggest printing ou an appropriate number of pages to make a background the ships would be flying over if they ended up that close to a star destroyer.

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2015
    Local Target had these so I grabbed 2 (mostly for the new X-wing). The new rule book is nice, adds all the random new rule additions into one spot for easy reference.

    One thing I noticed on upgrade cards;
    "Ship-type only: This upgrade can only be equopped to a ship of the specified type. If the ship's type includes the entirety of the restricted typce, it can equip that card. For example, a TIE/fo fighter can equip an Upgrade card restricted to "TIE fighter only."

    So that means the tie advanced prototype can equip the TIE Advanced/X1 title right? Since it is for "TIE Advanced only"?

    I hope that is the case, since it will actually keep that ship competitive.

    e:
    Also I don't remember if we saw the TIE/fo dial in the leak, but it can apparently sengor's loop at speed 2.

    Morkath on
    MegaMek
  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    maaaan I didn't see any starter kits at my target, that aisle had been cleaned out at midnight i guess

    there was a large BB-8 making noises though, that thing is pretty cute

    a lot of people apparently agreed with me because the staff had to put a "no touching" sign on it

    edit: also I can't believe red squadron veterans exist and have an elite talent slot, but we still have not seen Rogue Squadron

    when

    Daypigeon on
    Elvenshae
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Local Target didn't have any of the new core sets. So sad. :cry:

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against the Irish) Registered User regular
    You can use this website and the product code for the starter set - 087-10-1337 - to seek which Targets should have them in stock.

    crimsoncoyote
  • crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
    CSI's site says it is estimated to be available on the 26th of this month

  • crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
    Actually, if anyone desperately needs one the Target near me has 9 in stock, and there are others nearby with even more. Personally, I'd wait until it's available elsewhere, since you can easily save $10-$14.

    Fuselage
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