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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    soylenth wrote: »
    This is the only downside of SCH healing for me so far. I can't sleep the adds for stupid parties like I can on WHM. On the bright side, the faerie helps me heal through their stupidity.

    Yes, not having sleep is painful - on the other hand, if there's nobody doing sleep I can just Shadow Flare to decrease the enemy's attack rate, at least (If I can't find the time to drop ONE non-heal, the group's fucked anyways).

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  • ZebukielZebukiel Registered User regular
    Wanted to thank everyone who I group with today, Was a blast actually doing stuff with the FC instead of pugging.

    6 AK's, Hydra, HM Ifrit, and HM Gurada. (Ruby carried be through the Primals, Thanks again Ruby.)

  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    So, my launcher isn't letting me input login information. It's just completely blank, like this:

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    Anyone else had this issue? I've restarted the launcher a bunch of times with no result.

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    @Flarne: A couple guesses.

    Have you chanced, or has a program changed, and IE settings lately? Those can fuck with the launcher.
    Are you on vacation or in a region other than where your account/elua acceptance is from? If so you have to use a VPN for the Launcher (but can turn if off when in-game).

    Are you getting any error messages, or is just that part not loading? You can try deleting your FFXIV_BOOT configure file, in the root of the same directory where all your screenshots are saved.

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  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    None of the above. I just waited a bit longer and restarted again and now it works. No idea what was going on there. Thanks though!

  • ZebukielZebukiel Registered User regular
    People holding DD ransom? (Found on reddit)
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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Good for her. Exploits are exploits even if the devs won't admit it yet. I'm almost to the point that I can end that Fate every time it pops up. Can't wait!

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Also even if farming XP from it isn't an exploit, finishing the FATE is also playing the game properly, so anybody who bitches can just deal with it.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Much like refusing to heal on dungeon end bosses is also playing the game properly

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  • VargVarg Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    people on excal ask politely for then not to kill the lambs, it isn't really a big deal as exp flows regardless.

    Not to mention the only thing the fate does is make the mobs instant instead of having a 5 second cooldown - its a pretty awesome grind spot for one group when a group is willing to do it in between fates.

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  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Zebukiel wrote: »
    Wanted to thank everyone who I group with today, Was a blast actually doing stuff with the FC instead of pugging.

    6 AK's, Hydra, HM Ifrit, and HM Gurada. (Ruby carried be through the Primals, Thanks again Ruby.)

    Ifrit and Garuda take a bit of practice to get right, you did pretty well on Garuda, the only times I saw you take damage you shouldn't was simply from not knowing the patterns in advance. Also the tank goofed a little on positioning at the very end, but that happens sometimes and isn't a huge deal. A few more runs of those two primals and I'm sure you'll have it. Titan is, of course, trickier. He's also very unforgiving with latency. Gear up a bit more and you'll be able to get him dead too, and then you'll have your fancy relic book.

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  • gunwarriorgunwarrior Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    Good for her. Exploits are exploits even if the devs won't admit it yet. I'm almost to the point that I can end that Fate every time it pops up. Can't wait!
    What did you do to get to 50? Just a shit ton of guildleves and dungeon runs? It seems like a lot of the quests dry up during the 40s and the requirements for the main quest jump very quickly while only getting you maybe 1/3 of the way to the next level if you're lucky. DD doesn't even get you that much, it takes maybe 3-4 runs with a decent group to level and more than that if you only get a group of no AoE classes like most of the pugs for it.

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Much like refusing to heal on dungeon end bosses is also playing the game properly

    That is a complete bullshit analogy. Dungeons are designed for a party consisting of a tank, 2 dps, and a healer. The healer's job is to heal. That's how it is intended. Healing when needed is playing the game properly.
    Completely a FATE is playing the game properly because that's what FATEs are for. The FATE shows up, you do thing, get prizes.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    Is it a good idea to get the Square Enix One Time Password App for my android phone?

    The only reason I am not assuming it is a 100% yes is because the app has horrible reviews in the google play store. It is really buggy or something?

    I have used the Blizzard authenticator on my phone before with nothing but good things to say about it.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    I've been in Coerthas three minutes and I already want to raze it to the ground.

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    I've been in Coerthas three minutes and I already want to raze it to the ground.

    Haha, do you even like this game?

    Seems like you hate it...which is cool. Just surprised you're still playing it based on your posts.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    You must have me mistaken for someone else.

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  • Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    Have you even been there grove? Everyone hates it

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    I've been in Coerthas three minutes and I already want to raze it to the ground.

    It only gets worse. Good music, though.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Coerthas wouldnt be soo bad if it wasnt for the soul crushing amount of people there :)

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Coerthas is one of my favorite locations and quest chains in the game. I liked that the characters generally had a totally different personality than people in the rest of the game. They're all jerks, and stuff is generally a little darker there.

    I don't need it to be dark all the time, but it was a good change of pace from the generally cheery demeanor of most quest givers. And I liked the snowy environment and music, too.

    That said, once I was done there, I was glad to see a little sunlight. In Thanalan, or La Noscea, or The Shroud, or really anywhere else except for Coerthas and Mor Dhona.

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  • GroveGrove Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    Kai_San wrote: »
    Have you even been there grove? Everyone hates it

    Yes I've been.

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  • FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    Coerthas has a very pretty loading screen.

    SaraLuna
  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Is it a good idea to get the Square Enix One Time Password App for my android phone?

    The only reason I am not assuming it is a 100% yes is because the app has horrible reviews in the google play store. It is really buggy or something?

    I have used the Blizzard authenticator on my phone before with nothing but good things to say about it.

    Yes, get this thing. There are a huge number of gold spammers using hacked accounts. Protect yourself. I have it on iPhone though, so I can't attest to the android quality.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Much like refusing to heal on dungeon end bosses is also playing the game properly

    That is a complete bullshit analogy. Dungeons are designed for a party consisting of a tank, 2 dps, and a healer. The healer's job is to heal. That's how it is intended. Healing when needed is playing the game properly.
    Completely a FATE is playing the game properly because that's what FATEs are for. The FATE shows up, you do thing, get prizes.

    It's not an exploit so anyone who bitches about it can just deal with it~

    That was just a made up example of a way you could ruin other people's time. A lot of the boss fights are based on gimmicks - maybe you're a tank who thinks leading anataboga to the back corner is an exploit and it's really designed to be tanked right in the middle of the room - if you can't handle catastrophe you're not geared enough.

    As it stands, leveling up in endgame totally sucks, even moreso if it's not your first class. Virtually no one saddles over to DD and just kind of cluelessly ends the fate because that's what they think is supposed to be done with it. It's someone like KiTA who just can't wait to end it on purpose for ... ??

    "Even if the devs haven't realized it it's still an exploit". Them coming out and specifically saying it wasn't an exploit is as much I an endorsement as they can possibly give without just saying "yeah we didn't put enough stuff in endgame sorry we designed it badly".

    Same as not healing and forcing a loss when you get to the end of a 45 minute dungeon with a 30 minute queue, the only reason to end that fate early on purpose is to deny people's progress, including your own, for no reason other than to piss them off for your amusement. Even though neither one is an exploit, there's plenty of reason people would have to complain.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Is it a good idea to get the Square Enix One Time Password App for my android phone?

    The only reason I am not assuming it is a 100% yes is because the app has horrible reviews in the google play store. It is really buggy or something?

    I have used the Blizzard authenticator on my phone before with nothing but good things to say about it.

    Yes, get this thing. There are a huge number of gold spammers using hacked accounts. Protect yourself. I have it on iPhone though, so I can't attest to the android quality.

    I have the old SE Token that gave you double inventory space in FF11 for getting it.

    Come to think of it, where the hell is my double inventory space in FF14? God, that would be nice. Or hey, a special Moogle Retainer.

  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited October 2013
    nothing about farming DD even remotely resembles an exploit. If you take it upon yourself to decide for everyone else that you think it's an exploit and end it early against the desires of everyone else playing the game all it makes you is a shithead, and if your name ends up on blists of high end FC's who you might want to do end-game stuff with later, too damn bad for you.

    There's no 'higher ground' that wanting to end it early and fucking over dozens of players puts you on, you aren't the arbiter of what is and isn't an exploit. If you really really really think it's an actual exploit, report it as one, and avoid it; again, all ending it early does is make you the fuckheel that will piss everyone else off. If SE thinks it is an exploit they can fix it, if not, they won't. You don't get to say 'even if SE doesn't think it is an exploit, it actually is'. I mean, what a dickish high and mighty attitude to take; that you know better than them.

    If, and it's a pretty fucking big if, farming dd did anything but just give you a bonus amount of xp, maybe it would cause a problem. But players finding a decent way to make the 45-50 grind a bit more bearable isn't something that in any way, whatsoever, hurts the game or anything about it. It gives you no better gear, no extra gil, items, or any other thing that might actually be an exploit. All ending it early is, is you saying to everyone else 'fuck you, i want you to take longer to grind xp'.

    EDIT: and for the record, btw, SE has explicitly said that it isn't an exploit, so again, fucking over other players just makes you a twat. Don't do it if you don't like it. Otherwise all you are is a troll.

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Is it a good idea to get the Square Enix One Time Password App for my android phone?

    The only reason I am not assuming it is a 100% yes is because the app has horrible reviews in the google play store. It is really buggy or something?

    I have used the Blizzard authenticator on my phone before with nothing but good things to say about it.

    Yes, get this thing. There are a huge number of gold spammers using hacked accounts. Protect yourself. I have it on iPhone though, so I can't attest to the android quality.

    I have the old SE Token that gave you double inventory space in FF11 for getting it.

    Come to think of it, where the hell is my double inventory space in FF14? God, that would be nice. Or hey, a special Moogle Retainer.

    Well, we get 450 slots of inventory space without the armory chest.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Why did I keep reading in that DD official forums thread? My EYES!

  • JeixJeix Registered User regular
    It gives you no better gear, no extra gil, items, or any other thing that might actually be an exploit.

    Completely agree except for this part, you can farm materia extremely fast by using DD. I don't consider this an exploit but you definitely can get something from it.

  • Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    When you are on your 3rd 50, you'll love DD.

  • BillGatesBillGates Registered User regular
    Varg wrote: »
    people on excal ask politely for then not to kill the lambs, it isn't really a big deal as exp flows regardless.

    Not to mention the only thing the fate does is make the mobs instant instead of having a 5 second cooldown - its a pretty awesome grind spot for one group when a group is willing to do it in between fates.

    Its uh...150K exp you can get if you and your party tag and chain correctly. FROM ONE part of the chain FATE. That is a fuckton (it's a word) of exp.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    whoever wonder boy is, if you see this. I'm perpetually losing server connection on the loading screen so I probably won't be able to get back in to do Brayflox. Thanks for trying to help! The dungeon doesn't want me to do anything

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Much like refusing to heal on dungeon end bosses is also playing the game properly

    That is a complete bullshit analogy. Dungeons are designed for a party consisting of a tank, 2 dps, and a healer. The healer's job is to heal. That's how it is intended. Healing when needed is playing the game properly.
    Completely a FATE is playing the game properly because that's what FATEs are for. The FATE shows up, you do thing, get prizes.

    It's not an exploit so anyone who bitches about it can just deal with it~

    That was just a made up example of a way you could ruin other people's time. A lot of the boss fights are based on gimmicks - maybe you're a tank who thinks leading anataboga to the back corner is an exploit and it's really designed to be tanked right in the middle of the room - if you can't handle catastrophe you're not geared enough.

    As it stands, leveling up in endgame totally sucks, even moreso if it's not your first class. Virtually no one saddles over to DD and just kind of cluelessly ends the fate because that's what they think is supposed to be done with it. It's someone like KiTA who just can't wait to end it on purpose for ... ??

    "Even if the devs haven't realized it it's still an exploit". Them coming out and specifically saying it wasn't an exploit is as much I an endorsement as they can possibly give without just saying "yeah we didn't put enough stuff in endgame sorry we designed it badly".

    Same as not healing and forcing a loss when you get to the end of a 45 minute dungeon with a 30 minute queue, the only reason to end that fate early on purpose is to deny people's progress, including your own, for no reason other than to piss them off for your amusement. Even though neither one is an exploit, there's plenty of reason people would have to complain.

    I can't speak for KiTA but there's been several people who've mentioned getting bitched at by people and threatened to be blacklisted because they finished the FATE and they didn't even know what it was. We're some of the most aware and informed players in the game by virtue of the fact that we post on an internet forum about it and lot of people get really myopic and forget that. If that weren't the case there'd be much fewer bad PUGs and such for us to gripe about. "Casuals" will probably have little idea about what this thing is and anybody who bitches at them for performing an action that the game explicitly tells them to do can just get fucked. I'm sorry, but they're going to have to learn to deal with it. Other FATEs will spawn. SE will eventually get their shit together and make endgame and alt-class leveling not such a fucking chore.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Right, I reached the infamous point where creatures to kill for a quest are also the only source of fleece for weavers.

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Just to clarify, I'm not mad that it's an "exploit". I think at worst it's an unintended edge case.

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  • SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    those sheep are also on the CNJ hunting log. that one was a pain to do

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    I had to kill some goat things for level 20ish quest once that at least 2 or 3 people were farming for I assume aldgoat leather or meat. If I hadn't been an archer I don't know how long it would have taken to get them. I watched probably 25 die before I managed to tag enough to get credit for the 3 or 4 kills I needed.

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  • Tridus1xTridus1x Registered User regular
    It amuses me when people rage about someone ending DD early. Fates are meant to be completed, if someone decides to end it early then that's their choice and they are playing the game, just like the people who want to farm it for exp. The deal breaker for me is the "get cancer" "I hope you die" remarks from groups toward players killing the lambs. If I wasn't invited to a exp farming group in DD, then I would gladly end the fate early since I would be getting more exp by doing so rather than waiting around.

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  • VikingViking Registered User regular
    Tridus1x wrote: »
    It amuses me when people rage about someone ending DD early. Fates are meant to be completed, if someone decides to end it early then that's their choice and they are playing the game, just like the people who want to farm it for exp. The deal breaker for me is the "get cancer" "I hope you die" remarks from groups toward players killing the lambs. If I wasn't invited to a exp farming group in DD, then I would gladly end the fate early since I would be getting more exp by doing so rather than waiting around.
    DD is being completed though, nothing says you have to finish a Fate as quickly as possible and dragging it out isn't an exploit or an edge case or whatever.
    It isn't like DD runs forever and you can farm it all day, the Fate lasts what 15 minutes max? and you either kill the non-essential mobs for 15 minutes for xp or you kill the essential mobs and end it early.

    Don't personally want to farm DD?, then don't.... either ignore it or run in and tag enough mobs to get credit then move on to something else. (leaving a fate before it ends still nets you the reward once it eventually ends)
    I do not see the point in ending it out of spite.

    *not directed at you personally but the implication that it should be ended ASAP because "Fuck those that farm it" is really selfish.

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