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Question to resident Ys fans: why the flak for V?
Sorenson
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I picked up Ys VI recently along with a bunch of other games for the PS2 I got on the cheap a month back, and it reminded me of my forgotten intention to ask the titular question. Looking across the board and the internet, most of the discussion I see concerning Ys V is in the style of the individuals involved crapping upon it, and though I can understand where some of the dissipointment may come from given its predacessors, it seems like the sea of shit it's doomed to swim in is far more deep than it deserves.
Having played the game at least several times over the last several years, idiocy like like the difficulty-related re-release aside, I simply cannot understand where all of the hate for it comes from. Is is the audio, for which the franchise is much-noted for? Maybe, I say to myself - but yet while its quality is inferior to its forerunners due to the cartridge medium and the style shift, it would be madness to believe that this could be the root, especially with the immense quality it achieves despite its physical limitations. Is it the graphics? Granted, while Ys is known for its grand FMVs and artwork, the spritework and such in Ys V is by no means bad; some of the environments are downright beutiful given the time and format. So is the gameplay, then? It didn't change THAT much, and the changes weren't THAT drastic, I say to myself - the jumping was maybe a bit goofy, the shield overpowered, and the magic system a bit off in that you had to level it seperately, yes, but it didn't seem gamebreaking for these to be introduced and botched the way they were. So then perhaps it's the story, and on this I cannot honestly say nothing - perhaps people are cheesed because V began to strike away from the franchise's namesake like the much-loathed III two games earlier, or perhaps because for once all of the characters involved didn't (to my understanding, anyway) make an appearance.
So what exactly is this great crime that Falcom and Ys V committed so long ago as to earn the eternal ire of gamers the world over? Or is the definition of "bad" I use in how others describe it the wrong one, and the case is that it's "bad" in the sense of that it's a "decent/good" game being put up against predacessors described as "awesome", "fuckin' awesome", and "sweet Jesus this is fuckin' awesome"?
TL;DR: I have no friggin' clue why people shit on Ys V so much. You tell me.
Having played the game at least several times over the last several years, idiocy like like the difficulty-related re-release aside, I simply cannot understand where all of the hate for it comes from. Is is the audio, for which the franchise is much-noted for? Maybe, I say to myself - but yet while its quality is inferior to its forerunners due to the cartridge medium and the style shift, it would be madness to believe that this could be the root, especially with the immense quality it achieves despite its physical limitations. Is it the graphics? Granted, while Ys is known for its grand FMVs and artwork, the spritework and such in Ys V is by no means bad; some of the environments are downright beutiful given the time and format. So is the gameplay, then? It didn't change THAT much, and the changes weren't THAT drastic, I say to myself - the jumping was maybe a bit goofy, the shield overpowered, and the magic system a bit off in that you had to level it seperately, yes, but it didn't seem gamebreaking for these to be introduced and botched the way they were. So then perhaps it's the story, and on this I cannot honestly say nothing - perhaps people are cheesed because V began to strike away from the franchise's namesake like the much-loathed III two games earlier, or perhaps because for once all of the characters involved didn't (to my understanding, anyway) make an appearance.
So what exactly is this great crime that Falcom and Ys V committed so long ago as to earn the eternal ire of gamers the world over? Or is the definition of "bad" I use in how others describe it the wrong one, and the case is that it's "bad" in the sense of that it's a "decent/good" game being put up against predacessors described as "awesome", "fuckin' awesome", and "sweet Jesus this is fuckin' awesome"?
TL;DR: I have no friggin' clue why people shit on Ys V so much. You tell me.
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Ys V was the first game in the style of Ys VI and onwards, even if it didn't have the 3D technology, so it's got that going for it - but the main problems imo were a) the initial lack of difficulty (somewhat rectified w/ Ys V Expert), b) uninspired combat and c) the perceived Zelda-ification of the series.
IMO, at least.