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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I personally can't think of a more aggressively mediocre band.

    I know hating Nickelback is the popular thing to do. I don't hate them. They just exist and I devote virtually no energy to despising them.

    Roz
  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    What is this I don't even.
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    You And Whose Army is a great tune, and one of my favorites because I got to see them play it live, with Thom Yorke trying to give the camera "come hither" eyes but couldn't seem to look in the proper direction which made the whole thing even funnier/greater.

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    Kid A is where I see them really push the envelope, and it was so different from anything I heard from anywhere else. While it's not really an album you can jam out to, I admire it for its craft and patience. There are many ways you can do experimentalism that would come off as lazy or maladroit. That album, thankfully, is neither.

    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    Roz on
    joshofalltradesRedDawn
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    And it's even better live!

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    And it's even better live!

    *envy*

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Radiohead was great to see live but I'm honestly more excited about getting to see Neutral Milk Hotel in February.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    I realized I wrote "undeniably" when my brain meant "possibly."

    Damn you, automatic-shift-to-hyperbole-when-on-the-internet.

    What is this I don't even.
  • RedDawnRedDawn Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    Kid A is where I see them really push the envelope, and it was so different from anything I heard from anywhere else. While it's not really an album you can jam out to, I admire it for its craft and patience. There are many ways you can do experimentalism that would come off as lazy or maladroit. That album, thankfully, is neither.

    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    Was about to bring up Kid A, but you said it better than I could.

    The only other thing I have to add about Radiohead is, while I'm not a huge fan of them, I love what they have done for music as a whole. Most of my favorite new bands have mentioned Radiohead as inspiration or influence. So I guess I'd like to thank Radiohead for getting more people into music.

    Roz
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I feel pretty much the same way about REM. I never got their appeal, I mean, they have some decent songs and all, but the way people go apeshit is weird to me.

    BUT, a lot of my favorite bands cite them as an influence, so I gotta give them props for that.

    Roz
  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Know what my dream DLC would be? Tool, and/or A Perfect Circle, but picking and choosing stuff from them to put in Rocksmith is way harder than picking a cool song for Rock Band or something.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKV9Stri_M

    this'd be a track to Master. :D

    Oh brilliant
    RedDawnDarkewolfeAngrySquirrelRoz
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    That reminds me that I would really like some Tonic.

    Darkewolfe
  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited November 2013
    RedDawn wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    Kid A is where I see them really push the envelope, and it was so different from anything I heard from anywhere else. While it's not really an album you can jam out to, I admire it for its craft and patience. There are many ways you can do experimentalism that would come off as lazy or maladroit. That album, thankfully, is neither.

    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    Was about to bring up Kid A, but you said it better than I could.

    The only other thing I have to add about Radiohead is, while I'm not a huge fan of them, I love what they have done for music as a whole. Most of my favorite new bands have mentioned Radiohead as inspiration or influence. So I guess I'd like to thank Radiohead for getting more people into music.

    Yes, I agree with you. This is where I commit sacrilege and the thread promptly burns me at the stake, but I've never been a Beatles fan. I appreciate their music for its historical relevance and creativity, but it never resonated with me the way it did for an entire generation of people. I am, however, incredibly thankful for their influence and legacy, without which, many of my favorite bands simply would not exist.

    Roz on
    Dark Raven XHappylilElf
  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Know what my dream DLC would be? Tool, and/or A Perfect Circle, but picking and choosing stuff from them to put in Rocksmith is way harder than picking a cool song for Rock Band or something.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKV9Stri_M

    this'd be a track to Master. :D

    Dark Raven, you and I have very similar tastes :D

    Dark Raven X
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    RedDawn wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    Kid A is where I see them really push the envelope, and it was so different from anything I heard from anywhere else. While it's not really an album you can jam out to, I admire it for its craft and patience. There are many ways you can do experimentalism that would come off as lazy or maladroit. That album, thankfully, is neither.

    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    Was about to bring up Kid A, but you said it better than I could.

    The only other thing I have to add about Radiohead is, while I'm not a huge fan of them, I love what they have done for music as a whole. Most of my favorite new bands have mentioned Radiohead as inspiration or influence. So I guess I'd like to thank Radiohead for getting more people into music.

    Yes, I agree with you. This is where I commit sacrilege and the thread promptly burns me at the stake, but I've never been a Beatles fan. I appreciate their music for its historical relevance and creativity, but it never resonated with me the way it did for an entire generation of people. I am, however, incredibly thankful for their influence and legacy, without which, many of my favorite bands simply would not exist.

    I wouldn't burn you at the stake for a comment like this!

    Even though I am Beatles Fan #1 and also #'s 2-100.

    Seriously though George Harrison was an amazing guitarist.

    Roz
  • RedDawnRedDawn Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Roz wrote: »
    Know what my dream DLC would be? Tool, and/or A Perfect Circle, but picking and choosing stuff from them to put in Rocksmith is way harder than picking a cool song for Rock Band or something.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKV9Stri_M

    this'd be a track to Master. :D

    Dark Raven, you and I have very similar tastes :D

    I'm so with you on this, I absolutely love APC, it borders on unhealthy. Don't get me wrong, I love Tool as well, but for whatever reason APC seems to resonate more with me. That being said, I'll just leave this here just in case you haven't seen it yet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKLvYGqaC0

    RedDawn on
    DarkewolfeDark Raven XAngrySquirrel
  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Roz wrote: »
    RedDawn wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    Kid A is where I see them really push the envelope, and it was so different from anything I heard from anywhere else. While it's not really an album you can jam out to, I admire it for its craft and patience. There are many ways you can do experimentalism that would come off as lazy or maladroit. That album, thankfully, is neither.

    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    Was about to bring up Kid A, but you said it better than I could.

    The only other thing I have to add about Radiohead is, while I'm not a huge fan of them, I love what they have done for music as a whole. Most of my favorite new bands have mentioned Radiohead as inspiration or influence. So I guess I'd like to thank Radiohead for getting more people into music.

    Yes, I agree with you. This is where I commit sacrilege and the thread promptly burns me at the stake, but I've never been a Beatles fan. I appreciate their music for its historical relevance and creativity, but it never resonated with me the way it did for an entire generation of people. I am, however, incredibly thankful for their influence and legacy, without which, many of my favorite bands simply would not exist.

    I wouldn't burn you at the stake for a comment like this!

    Even though I am Beatles Fan #1 and also #'s 2-100.

    Seriously though George Harrison was an amazing guitarist.

    Normally, when I mention to guitar enthusiasts that I'm not really a Beatles fan, they give me this look like "OMG HOW COULD YOU?! SHUN THE NON BELIEVER"

    I kinda couch my statements reflexively at this point, because I hate to give off the impression that my lack of enthusiasm for them is devoid of respect. Because while I'm not particularly fond of their music, I can absolutely appreciate it's impression on the medium and its importance to the musical culture that I cherish.

    Roz on
  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    That cover of 46 and 2 actually caused me to stop playing guitar for a little bit.

    Because it hurts down to the soul to realize some 12 year old kids are further along in their musical careers than you will ever be.

    But those kids are amazing.

    What is this I don't even.
    Dark Raven X
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    That cover of 46 and 2 actually caused me to stop playing guitar for a little bit.

    Because it hurts down to the soul to realize some 12 year old kids are further along in their musical careers than you will ever be.

    But those kids are amazing.

    Man, even the best musicians know that somebody out there is better than they are.

    Neutral Milk Hotel is, in my opinion, an amazing band, in my top 10 of all time for sure, but Jeff Mangum's voice takes some serious getting used to, and his guitar playing is nothing fancy.

    I am not a Nirvana fan by any stretch of the imagination but they are undeniably popular and had a huge effect on music. Kurt Cobain was not a great guitarist (despite what those "top 100 guitarists of all time" articles would have you believe).

    John Lennon was once asked if he thought Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the world and he famously responded that Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles.

    One of my favorite solos of all time is on Weezer - In the Garage, and it is technically a very boring solo, but it's about attitude, not being technically amazing.

    You in no way have to be the best anything to make a valuable contribution to music.

    Rozlionheart_m
  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Oh, yeah, for sure.

    And I'm not quitting or anything.

    Truth is I am probably not going to make ANY contribution to music. A guy teaching himself to play at 30 is going to be a dabbler at best. There's so much to learn, and I'm not willing to dedicate full time work to it. Every once in awhile I wonder why I bother, but it's mostly just because it's fun. I just wish I could get to the point where I can make noises that sound good to me. :P

    Practicing while you're still terrible is just so awkward. I'm not to the point where I can make music, just semi-rhythmic sounds.

    What is this I don't even.
  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    That cover of 46 and 2 actually caused me to stop playing guitar for a little bit.

    Because it hurts down to the soul to realize some 12 year old kids are further along in their musical careers than you will ever be.

    But those kids are amazing.

    Man, even the best musicians know that somebody out there is better than they are.

    Neutral Milk Hotel is, in my opinion, an amazing band, in my top 10 of all time for sure, but Jeff Mangum's voice takes some serious getting used to, and his guitar playing is nothing fancy.

    I am not a Nirvana fan by any stretch of the imagination but they are undeniably popular and had a huge effect on music. Kurt Cobain was not a great guitarist (despite what those "top 100 guitarists of all time" articles would have you believe).

    John Lennon was once asked if he thought Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the world and he famously responded that Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles.

    One of my favorite solos of all time is on Weezer - In the Garage, and it is technically a very boring solo, but it's about attitude, not being technically amazing.

    You in no way have to be the best anything to make a valuable contribution to music.

    This. So much this.

    Music isn't some linear curve that you need to measure yourself against.

    There are so many styles out there, and so much music to enjoy and play at all skill levels and tempos that you really just need to find something that you enjoy playing and work at it. Music is about emotion. It's about feeling deeply, and expressing that feeling outwards. You don't need to be Steve Vai to do that.

    In fact, I would argue that the entire thesis of Rocksmith is that anyone can be a guitarist, regardless of age or experience. Don't sell yourself short Darkwolfe, if you want to get that good at guitar you can - you'll just have to work at it.


    joshofalltradesDrCongo
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Honestly I find really technical solos to be impressive and boring at the same time.

    I like music as a vehicle to convey ideas and shift culture more than "look at meeeeeeedley meedley meedley MOWWWWWWW"

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Ha. While so much of my worldview is shaped by music, I don't think I'll ever partake in that actual creation, because usually that requires a high degree of skill AND collaboration between musicians.

    So I'm mostly hoping to eventually just get to the point where I can rip off some highly technical solos because the challenge relaxes me. The problem is it only relaxes me when I can do it, when I'm struggling to learn it it kills me. :P

    "Next Girl" by Black Keys is the only song I've mastered so far. I'm a really tense guy, but when I can get into the rhythm of moving between the back and forth of that song I just feel my whole body relaxing.

    Also, I am physically incapable of spelling the word "rhythm" on the first try.

    What is this I don't even.
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    The best way to get good at playing is not to practice. It's playing with others.

    Practice is important for things like theory and scales. Learning basic chord structure. That kind of stuff.

    It can be daunting to get another person and make music with them, but it really does force you to think about what you're doing and you'll improve drastically when you know other people are listening to what you do.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    The best way to get good at playing is not to practice. It's playing with others.

    Practice is important for things like theory and scales. Learning basic chord structure. That kind of stuff.

    It can be daunting to get another person and make music with them, but it really does force you to think about what you're doing and you'll improve drastically when you know other people are listening to what you do.

    a half agree
    Really I hated learning the basic guitar when I attempted long ago because if you messed up he made you go back to basic chords


    The one song I hated playing on Rocksmith was I can't hear you by the Dead Weathermen. I think it was a poor way to show palm mutes
    I really almost tossed my guitar into the wall after 3 weeks of failure on that song


  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Basically the only way to improve at guitar is to get outside of your comfort zone, is what I was getting at.

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Honestly I find really technical solos to be impressive and boring at the same time.

    I like music as a vehicle to convey ideas and shift culture more than "look at meeeeeeedley meedley meedley MOWWWWWWW"

    I hate it when people go into masturbatory solos for no reason other than to show off. It just reminds me of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CoIgQ4ZeKc

  • kaleeditykaleedity Sometimes science is more art than science Registered User regular
    Maybe this isn't the best place to ask, but on aces high's bass part in the intro The bass has three note chords that it plays in fast triplets along with the snare hits. I'm trying to wrap my head around doing that correctly. I guess I need to alt strum with all three fingers, huh.

  • EndaroEndaro Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    kaleedity wrote: »
    Maybe this isn't the best place to ask, but on aces high's bass part in the intro The bass has three note chords that it plays in fast triplets along with the snare hits. I'm trying to wrap my head around doing that correctly. I guess I need to alt strum with all three fingers, huh.

    Personally, I think however you can find a way to do it is the way to go, so I would try playing with a pick. It should be much easier that way. Many people get oddly in to "doing it the way it was done", in which case you'd be using your fingers, but I'd highly advise making value judgements on fingers vs picks when it comes to bass. As for how it was done, Steve Harris actually plays his famous fast galloping triplets with 2 fingers. I can never remember if it's a fast triplet of standard upstrokes or if he uses the same technique as later Geddy Lee and hits the string on the way back with the tops of his fingers. All worth trying.

    For reference:

    Endaro on
  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    It's never going to happen because it's too niche and the whole record's a a complete mess from a technical standpoint, but I'd love some You're Living All Over Me.

    Please give me the guitar/bass authentic tones from this record and I would play everything in Rocksmith using them

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi1LrNtVltg

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I want to take my guitar for a setup but the fender tech around me has a week turn around and the music store/guitar center are both 4-5 days...

    how the hell involved are these things?

  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    It's a couple hours, it's just, y'know. Backlogs.

    I used to hang out in this guitar shop in a little town, talking to the tech guy for hours. He'd average 2 jobs a day :P

    Oh brilliant
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    A setup shouldn't take longer than an hour if the tech is competent

    But yeah if a dude has a bunch of guitars lined up before yours with more intense work needed, it could be a factor

    Refrets are a common job and those take a lot of work to do properly

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Honestly setting up a guitar is arguably easier than, say, changing the oil in your car

    There are plenty of websites that will walk you through it step-by-step! It's easy enough and cheap enough to get the equipment you need once that having it as a skill would be useful

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    It's certainly pretty easy, but I totally understand wanting to have someone else do it for you -- particularly if a possible truss rod adjustment is in the cards.

    joshofalltrades
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    For sure. Truss rod adjustments in particular made me super nervous when I started messing around with the guts of my babies.

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Roz wrote: »
    RedDawn wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    Kid A is where I see them really push the envelope, and it was so different from anything I heard from anywhere else. While it's not really an album you can jam out to, I admire it for its craft and patience. There are many ways you can do experimentalism that would come off as lazy or maladroit. That album, thankfully, is neither.

    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    Was about to bring up Kid A, but you said it better than I could.

    The only other thing I have to add about Radiohead is, while I'm not a huge fan of them, I love what they have done for music as a whole. Most of my favorite new bands have mentioned Radiohead as inspiration or influence. So I guess I'd like to thank Radiohead for getting more people into music.

    Yes, I agree with you. This is where I commit sacrilege and the thread promptly burns me at the stake, but I've never been a Beatles fan. I appreciate their music for its historical relevance and creativity, but it never resonated with me the way it did for an entire generation of people. I am, however, incredibly thankful for their influence and legacy, without which, many of my favorite bands simply would not exist.

    Wow this thread blew up. 42 posts over nigh?

    I am a huge, huge beatles fan, and yes, that is sacrilege. I would say you just haven't listened to them man. While I'm joking with that sentence, I'd say there has to be a beatles album that everybody liked, as they did so many different styles over the years. And if you don't like the white album, are you sure you're playing the guitar and not the Ukelele? :D

    But their influence is huge, and they influenced every genre of music that came after them. Me and a buddy spent a whole night playing through all of beatles rockband and it's what really hammered it home for me. You could hear the early ideas of hard rock, metal, even later RnB in some of their songs. And to think, had Bob Dylan not thought they smoked pot due to a lyric, the beatles might have never became the beatles.

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Tommatt wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    RedDawn wrote: »
    Roz wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Although I'd like Creep because I could actually play the damn thing.
    Roz wrote: »
    I uh... I actually really like hail to the thief and in rainbows Radiohead. I don't know where this peaked idea comes from

    They are enjoyable, but they are Radiohead's The Tempest and a Comedy of Errors to their earlier Othello and Macbeth.

    Amnesiac might be my favorite album? I think Ok Computer is undeniably their most powerful work, but Amnesiac is where you can really see them starting to toy with both rock and non-traditional.

    Kid A is where I see them really push the envelope, and it was so different from anything I heard from anywhere else. While it's not really an album you can jam out to, I admire it for its craft and patience. There are many ways you can do experimentalism that would come off as lazy or maladroit. That album, thankfully, is neither.

    Also, Idioteque is fantastic.

    Was about to bring up Kid A, but you said it better than I could.

    The only other thing I have to add about Radiohead is, while I'm not a huge fan of them, I love what they have done for music as a whole. Most of my favorite new bands have mentioned Radiohead as inspiration or influence. So I guess I'd like to thank Radiohead for getting more people into music.

    Yes, I agree with you. This is where I commit sacrilege and the thread promptly burns me at the stake, but I've never been a Beatles fan. I appreciate their music for its historical relevance and creativity, but it never resonated with me the way it did for an entire generation of people. I am, however, incredibly thankful for their influence and legacy, without which, many of my favorite bands simply would not exist.

    Wow this thread blew up. 42 posts over nigh?

    I am a huge, huge beatles fan, and yes, that is sacrilege. I would say you just haven't listened to them man. While I'm joking with that sentence, I'd say there has to be a beatles album that everybody liked, as they did so many different styles over the years. And if you don't like the white album, are you sure you're playing the guitar and not the Ukelele? :D

    But their influence is huge, and they influenced every genre of music that came after them. Me and a buddy spent a whole night playing through all of beatles rockband and it's what really hammered it home for me. You could hear the early ideas of hard rock, metal, even later RnB in some of their songs. And to think, had Bob Dylan not thought they smoked pot due to a lyric, the beatles might have never became the beatles.

    I'm pretty sure I mentioned that I am eternally grateful for their influence on music :D

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    I want to take my guitar for a setup but the fender tech around me has a week turn around and the music store/guitar center are both 4-5 days...

    how the hell involved are these things?
    @initiatefailure

    Don't do this! Unless your guitar is jacked, it shouldn't take more than a couple hours to do max. Turnaround shouldn't be more than a day. There are a ton of guides on the internet that are pretty easy to follow. I mean, for just over the price of a set up you can get a set of high quality tools
    http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Tool_Kits/Basic_Setup_Kit.html

    I just recently did my own, and while scary, I took my time and followed the instructions. It came out damn near perfect when I took it to a tech to look over. Just make sure you have the tools and follow the guides. I can help you out with it, and show you all the resources I used. The big thing is having the tools. You need some good precision rulers to set the action, and feeler gauges are nice, but a business card works just as well to set the truss rod. THat stewmac site has a basic video. ALthough I don't like all their instructions they give. But if you buy this thing here for $20
    http://www.stewmac.com/shopby/product/0670
    it will have pretty much every measurement you need to do it.

    Unless your neck is warped, or your fretboard is just jacked up, I'd highly recomend saving the money and doing it yourself. You'll learn alot about your guitar in the process, and what everything does.

    I'll list all the sites I used that I can remember
    http://diystrat.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-set-up-gibson-les-paul-style.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYO23rGO_7M

    This video is pretty good, @ 3:30 where he does the truss rod adjustment measurements, he shows how to capo/fret it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI8zLvlJnzg


    now he's doing a les paul. You will see different directions depending on guitar. You capo first fret, and you push on either the 22nd, or 15th. How do you know which one? The key is where the neck joint is at. On a LP the neck joint is at the 15th fret and that's why you fret it there. When you do this you shoul be able to get a business card underneath the 7th fret.

    If by chance you are doing a les paul here's some factory measurements for action and such

    I posted this in another thread, and just thought I'd make it easier to find. Plus I can't sleep so enjoy ...
    Hi I'm David the final inspector at Gibson Memphis. I can give you the factory spec info. on our setups. You will need a mechanics rule to do this properly.

    To check neck relief: fret the low E at the first and 15th fret (not 12th) reach to the 7th fret and tap string. There should be a small space between string and fret - no thicker than a piece of paper. Do the same with the high E.
    ACTION: fret low E at first fret and measure the distance from the bottom of the to the top of the 15th fret. It should be 5/64". Do the same with the high E, measurement should be 3/64". Now measure the string height at the nut; underside of the string to the top of the fret. Low E and A should measure 2/64", D and G =1.5/64" and B and high E = 1/64". If string height at nut is correct, recheck string height at 12th fret with strings open. Measurement for low and high E's should be the same as measurement taken at the 15th.

    Pickups: Fret low E at 22nd fret and measure pickup height from underside of string to point on pickup closest to string. Bridge pickup should be 3/64", neck pickup should be 4/32". Fret high E at 22nd fret, distance for both pickups should be 3/32".

    Play test: Play every string at every fret checking for buzzes. Bend High E string 1 and 1/2 steps, beginning at the sixth fret and ending at 22nd, checking for "choking" and to make sure string stays in nut notch

    I haven't watched this but this is a 7 parter
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv0jdEAxIYo

    Hopefully this gets you off to a good start. DO some reading, watching, etc... and I'm sure you'll want to do it yourself.

    Oh, and before I forget, wanna watch a legend set up a guitar and learn absolutely nothing?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKTXTWbI4FU :)

    Tommatt on
  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Truss rod adjustments are the only thing I've felt super comfortable doing so far.

    I'm still angrily staring at my tremolo trying to decide if I'm going to shove a piece of 2x4 in there or not. (That seems like a really weird thing.)

    What is this I don't even.
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