abyss neptune/grodin or lucifer
Hera lvl 50
hera lvl 27 or so but have kings to boost
StE max skill
RK or Echinada
or something like
A. Neptune/grodin or lucifer
Hera
RK
StE
Echinada
The first team might be viable with a Lucifer (don't use GrOdin) -- you'll need two gravities and a morning star to get through floor 5. You may also have a hell of a time staying alive against the boss (how much RCV do you have?). It should be possible, but even so, you should probably hold off until the next time she shows up.
Also, I tried a version on the iPad and was very surprised that there were black borders all around. The game didn't fill out the entire screen properly! Does it even support the taller iPhone 5 screen?
Heard the proposition that RIAA and MPAA should join forces and form "Music And Film Industry Association"?
Last time, I two-stoned (and a subsequent 4-stone, I think) Hera-Is Legend with:
SDA Neptune (82)
StE (60 and max skill)
D/L Hades (99)
Busty Indra (50)
Echidna (90, slvl 5 +44 RCV eggs)
Max Awoken Odin w/ + eggs
I would say you are better off with one gravity user and an RK, going the Neptune/Odin route. I used Indra because I had him and he has more RCV than an RK.
Your team will be lacking a lot of RCV, depending on the levels of your guys. Look at 38thDoe's RCV guide from the previous page and see where you fall. I would wager that you will spend so many stones trying to heal up on Hera-Is. Better to try later with more levels, when you can mitigate number of stones spent for a non-guaranteed drop.
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So when we get the JP Mystic Knight changes, you think Balanced teams will become viable? I have a Phoenix Knight Homura I'd like to take for a spin.
Balance teams are already really strong but I'm not sure PKH really fits in with the strongest line ups.
Ah ok, I hadn't heard much about them. I was mainly looking since I have PKH and Minerva. I suppose going from a 12.25x damage multiplier on Zeus-Dios to a 4x is a pretty big deal, even if you don't need to worry about HP levels anymore.
I am guessing it is feasible with a Kirin of The Aurora team?
Kirin / Valk / Verche / Enchinda / Hera-Is / Kirin ?
Modifications to it?
The only problem is how to stall at all?
Dark Metatron Teams and Gomeon teams are definately out of this one I think.
I've seen videos of successful Horus runs that looked a lot worse than that. I think you can stall for four turns on Gigas before he attacks and Siegfried never attacks until you hit him so hopefully you can get Echidna up for Athena. Basically, your team composition looks fine, if your levels are good, you just need to match well
I don't see any way for a Goemon/Dark Metatron team to clear the first stage unless they're willing to eat tons of stones.
A Kirin team won't have much trouble if you're willing to spend a few stones. Athena has 4 million HP, but she never heals herself, and once her HP gets down between 50% and 14% you can survive at least one hit every turn (assuming you have > 11148 HP), which gives you a turn to set up the board for a burst before you die and spend another stone.
You could also stall at least 4 turns per stone on stage 3 if you're over 16275 HP. 2x Kirin + Hera-Is Gravity would then put her at 1.88 million, and Echidna would probably give you enough time to finish her off.
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Got two awakening tamarinds or whatever they are on a single run of Sapphire Dragons (after having not even seen one in 8 runs of metal dragons yesterday and 3 previous Sapphire runs today). Dropped both into Isis. I was all geared up to start dumping XP into my un-evolved Angel to awaken her for double auto-heal, but then noticed that Metatron gets the same thing plus other skills. So time to get her those last 6 pre-evolve levels.
Edit: I wasn't willing to try it just in case, but can you do multiple awakenings in a single power up fusion if you have multiple triggering monsters in there?
Edit: I wasn't willing to try it just in case, but can you do multiple awakenings in a single power up fusion if you have multiple triggering monsters in there?
I was nervous about that also, so I took the green dragon from the current bi-weekly dungeon and fed it 3 at one time to see how it would work.
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How viable would using kirin for athena be without valk/hera-is
You probably won't have time to charge Hera-Is before the boss, any other strong Water sub can replace her. Valk is just a really strong heartbreaker, any other similar strength heartbreaker would probably be fine. If you could run Siegfried and a strong grass sub like Susano or Highlander, I think you could be just as successful.
from what I have seen for Athena. you need to average 500k damage a turn to zero stone the dungeon.
you will have 3-5 turns to kill gigas and his 600k health. second wave is simple. third wave you will have to clear 1 mil health in two turns to prevent his strong attack. Athena you have about 530k health to sweep before she does her 92k hit.
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abyss neptune/grodin or lucifer
Hera lvl 50
hera lvl 27 or so but have kings to boost
StE max skill
RK or Echinada
or something like
A. Neptune/grodin or lucifer
Hera
RK
StE
Echinada
What is your RCV there?? I'm going to say probably that team will be a stone fest for you with Grodin Partner. Haven't run it with Lucifer so someone else could probably discuss that with you.
so with
abyss neptune
RK
StE
Hera
EtRE
i am at 1711 RCV and 8748 HP not taking into account the helper leaders stats
so i calculated it usin pdx
if i use atax's lucifer which is 65
i would be at 19695 HP, 3367 RCV. seems doable based on the chart though that may be only for an odin
abyss neptune/grodin or lucifer
Hera lvl 50
hera lvl 27 or so but have kings to boost
StE max skill
RK or Echinada
or something like
A. Neptune/grodin or lucifer
Hera
RK
StE
Echinada
What is your RCV there?? I'm going to say probably that team will be a stone fest for you with Grodin Partner. Haven't run it with Lucifer so someone else could probably discuss that with you.
so with
abyss neptune
RK
StE
Hera
EtRE
i am at 1711 RCV and 8748 HP not taking into account the helper leaders stats
so i calculated it usin pdx
if i use atax's lucifer which is 65
i would be at 19695 HP, 3367 RCV. seems doable based on the chart though that may be only for an odin
With that team, I can't see how to get past floor 5.
How viable would using kirin for athena be without valk/hera-is
You probably won't have time to charge Hera-Is before the boss, any other strong Water sub can replace her. Valk is just a really strong heartbreaker, any other similar strength heartbreaker would probably be fine. If you could run Siegfried and a strong grass sub like Susano or Highlander, I think you could be just as successful.
I am mostly using Hera-Is for the HP stack. I have her at lvl 81 at the moment so she gives a very big boost to my team.
I (somewhat) foolishly rolled during the Favorite Monster Carnival a while ago and aside from one terrible monster I got a Drawn Joker, which I'm certain will come in handy later, but that's only half of it.
I also rolled during the recent Godfest, and lo and behold I am finally in posession of an Odin.
Now my biggest aims are Kirin, Metatron, Valkyre, Geomon, Ama, Lilith, Berserker, Neptune, and AA Lucifer.
Man, been playing my Suzaku lately because the damage makes it was quicker, but it is pretty easy to mess up and find myself screwed. Gonna have to level that team up a lot.
Every single godfest I've been scumming on my old phone hoping for an Odin, or some sort of resist to help with grinding Ocean of Heaven on the weekends. No such luck for me.
Am I blind, or are you no longer able to chose evo as a filter type?
evo got renamed to fuse.
Anyone have a maxed odin they could put in? Everyone seems to have switched to Dark Kagutsuchi, which is less than ideal for Hera-Is.
Finally, I have no idea what to use my Tamadra on... Every monster I have is in one of three categories: It is farmable, It has crappy awoken skills, or it is crappy itself. http://www.padherder.com/user/38thdoe/sets/
Any ideas?
I used my Tamadra on Byakko. I think my first 3 will all go to her, for the triple orb enhance. Then Blue Odin. Then Valk...I am not farming Valks for Awoken skills. That's so much light xp. Then probably Yomi.
If I were you, I'd use it on Valk or Bastet. She's gonna be sweet upcoming. Oh wait...if awoken her now, it would carry over to her ultimate version, right?
I think you guys have inspired me to revisit PAD Herder. Not the evo materials, but just the monsters at least.
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I used my Tamadra on Byakko. I think my first 3 will all go to her, for the triple orb enhance. Then Blue Odin. Then Valk...I am not farming Valks for Awoken skills. That's so much light xp. Then probably Yomi.
If I were you, I'd use it on Valk or Bastet. She's gonna be sweet upcoming. Oh wait...if awoken her now, it would carry over to her ultimate version, right?
I think you guys have inspired me to revisit PAD Herder. Not the evo materials, but just the monsters at least.
I guess that is probably the best option, although I am very reluctant to use Tamadra on the only skill that is 100% worthless right now.
i used my guy on the monstert i use pretty much every team. i figure I will start seeing them more later
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Heh maybe this will make you feel better Smoogy:
0/2 Ardbeg
0/4 Lagavulin
0/2 King Bubblie
0/2 Green War Dragon
0/2 Light War Dragon
0/2 Blue War Dragon
0/4 Various Ogres
1/1 King Shynee
I've been lurking this thread for a while, but I can always use more friends.
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I've got Odin, Suzaku, Zeus, Goemon, Hermes, Luci, Ares, Freyja, Apollo and some other stuff. All pretty high level. I bounce between leaders a lot but you can always message me if you want something.
No idea what I want to try and tackle Athena with, so far...
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The first team might be viable with a Lucifer (don't use GrOdin) -- you'll need two gravities and a morning star to get through floor 5. You may also have a hell of a time staying alive against the boss (how much RCV do you have?). It should be possible, but even so, you should probably hold off until the next time she shows up.
Also, I tried a version on the iPad and was very surprised that there were black borders all around. The game didn't fill out the entire screen properly! Does it even support the taller iPhone 5 screen?
SDA Neptune (82)
StE (60 and max skill)
D/L Hades (99)
Busty Indra (50)
Echidna (90, slvl 5 +44 RCV eggs)
Max Awoken Odin w/ + eggs
I would say you are better off with one gravity user and an RK, going the Neptune/Odin route. I used Indra because I had him and he has more RCV than an RK.
Your team will be lacking a lot of RCV, depending on the levels of your guys. Look at 38thDoe's RCV guide from the previous page and see where you fall. I would wager that you will spend so many stones trying to heal up on Hera-Is. Better to try later with more levels, when you can mitigate number of stones spent for a non-guaranteed drop.
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Ah ok, I hadn't heard much about them. I was mainly looking since I have PKH and Minerva. I suppose going from a 12.25x damage multiplier on Zeus-Dios to a 4x is a pretty big deal, even if you don't need to worry about HP levels anymore.
I am guessing it is feasible with a Kirin of The Aurora team?
Kirin / Valk / Verche / Enchinda / Hera-Is / Kirin ?
Modifications to it?
The only problem is how to stall at all?
Dark Metatron Teams and Gomeon teams are definately out of this one I think.
I've seen videos of successful Horus runs that looked a lot worse than that. I think you can stall for four turns on Gigas before he attacks and Siegfried never attacks until you hit him so hopefully you can get Echidna up for Athena. Basically, your team composition looks fine, if your levels are good, you just need to match well
I don't see any way for a Goemon/Dark Metatron team to clear the first stage unless they're willing to eat tons of stones.
GrOdin
Leilan
Abyss Neptune
A. Hera
A Hera seems dumb since it's farmable, but most of those rest don't seem to be on a lot of a late teams.
Maybe neptunes water for helping get goemon.
Where is poison against the player a thing?
You could also stall at least 4 turns per stone on stage 3 if you're over 16275 HP. 2x Kirin + Hera-Is Gravity would then put her at 1.88 million, and Echidna would probably give you enough time to finish her off.
Probably in the next descend or dungeon series, the new poison orbs have already been datamined out of the client in JP version.
Edit: I wasn't willing to try it just in case, but can you do multiple awakenings in a single power up fusion if you have multiple triggering monsters in there?
I was nervous about that also, so I took the green dragon from the current bi-weekly dungeon and fed it 3 at one time to see how it would work.
PaD id - 346,240,298
Marvel FF - Lil bill12
You probably won't have time to charge Hera-Is before the boss, any other strong Water sub can replace her. Valk is just a really strong heartbreaker, any other similar strength heartbreaker would probably be fine. If you could run Siegfried and a strong grass sub like Susano or Highlander, I think you could be just as successful.
you will have 3-5 turns to kill gigas and his 600k health. second wave is simple. third wave you will have to clear 1 mil health in two turns to prevent his strong attack. Athena you have about 530k health to sweep before she does her 92k hit.
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Wow you have a lot of good stuff. If you can use Kirin successfully I think her first ability is orb enhance which is always good.
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so with
abyss neptune
RK
StE
Hera
EtRE
i am at 1711 RCV and 8748 HP not taking into account the helper leaders stats
so i calculated it usin pdx
if i use atax's lucifer which is 65
i would be at 19695 HP, 3367 RCV. seems doable based on the chart though that may be only for an odin
EDIT: oh wait, archangel is the one that gets 2 autoheals
I am mostly using Hera-Is for the HP stack. I have her at lvl 81 at the moment so she gives a very big boost to my team.
I (somewhat) foolishly rolled during the Favorite Monster Carnival a while ago and aside from one terrible monster I got a Drawn Joker, which I'm certain will come in handy later, but that's only half of it.
I also rolled during the recent Godfest, and lo and behold I am finally in posession of an Odin.
Now my biggest aims are Kirin, Metatron, Valkyre, Geomon, Ama, Lilith, Berserker, Neptune, and AA Lucifer.
Just thought I'd let you know I'm not dead.
Have you seen him? Now you have
MWO: Adamski
Anyone have a maxed odin they could put in? Everyone seems to have switched to Dark Kagutsuchi, which is less than ideal for Hera-Is.
Finally, I have no idea what to use my Tamadra on... Every monster I have is in one of three categories: It is farmable, It has crappy awoken skills, or it is crappy itself.
http://www.padherder.com/user/38thdoe/sets/
Any ideas?
That was it, thank you! You'd think that they would have told me that at some point.
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If I were you, I'd use it on Valk or Bastet. She's gonna be sweet upcoming. Oh wait...if awoken her now, it would carry over to her ultimate version, right?
I think you guys have inspired me to revisit PAD Herder. Not the evo materials, but just the monsters at least.
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PAD ID: 376,540,262
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Marvel FF - Lil bill12
I guess that is probably the best option, although I am very reluctant to use Tamadra on the only skill that is 100% worthless right now.
Sorry but I really need the RCV on a max Odin.
1/2 Lagavulin
0/2 Fortoytops
1/9 Yomi (all I really care about - that's a lot of stamina...)
0/1 Midgard
0/4 Brachys (what, I had leftover Chimeras!)
Edit: Dumpty invade last night! Woo, finally.
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0/2 Ardbeg
0/4 Lagavulin
0/2 King Bubblie
0/2 Green War Dragon
0/2 Light War Dragon
0/2 Blue War Dragon
0/4 Various Ogres
1/1 King Shynee
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I've got Odin, Suzaku, Zeus, Goemon, Hermes, Luci, Ares, Freyja, Apollo and some other stuff. All pretty high level. I bounce between leaders a lot but you can always message me if you want something.
No idea what I want to try and tackle Athena with, so far...