To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Our Vayne was determined to go in as hard as she could, but our team calmed her down and a few good Kenny ults to Tidal waves sealed the deal in teamfights.
Everybody hates duo Q when your team loses because the duo Q fails. Everybody ignores duo queue when the duo communicates and dominates the game and carries them.
Even the fringe cases of a diamond duo with a bronze balance themselves out, because while that diamond person will be much better than the ~gold person he's up against, it also means there are 4 other gold people potentially feasting on the 4 bronze teammates he has. Plus I don't think it's very common at all anyway.
If the normal matchmaking tries to avoid placing people in Diamond with people in gold, I don't see an issue with them enforcing this policy via duo queue restrictions.
There is a very good reason that even if the teams were to be even it causes huge problems in the game.
To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
God, I hope they do something about duo queues screwing up the ranked matchmaker next season
"Why is this Ez doing so terribly", I wonder, as he doesn't even attempt to dodge a Thresh hook for the sixth time.
Then I find out that he's a Silver V player trying to lane against Golds.
I would be comfortable if they capped the bound at something like no more than three ranks differential or 200 MMR (though that obviously causes problems because there is no visual MMR indicator)
I've had several friends refuse to play with me any longer because of how the matchmaking system works.
I'm not sure what the best solution is, but when my Bronze-Silver friends are being absolutely destroyed by Platinum-Diamond players in lane, something isn't working right.
WarCraft 3 had a system I liked where playing with a friend create a separate rating for the two of you as if you were one joint player and balanced matches accordingly. LoL could benefit from something similar, maybe using your solo MMR to establish a baseline prediction and then rapidly adjusting from there.
I just read all the red posts zenon made about lucian in the last day
holy shit that guy is living in a la-la land about him. he keeps claiming he's op and nobody plays him right and his ult is better damage then QWE/AAing at lvl 16 and he can outburst any other ADC in auto attack range
so from this i have determined two things:
1) Zenon is an ass
2) Lucian will probably be in a bad state for a while.
I have to wonder if he doesn't realize how obnoxious that post sounds because he's German. And he's so attached to the wonky Q and R that I have to wonder if he's even considered that the esoteric power of those things is not what anyone actually wants when they're playing Blade with two laserguns. He's not bad, but when I press R I expect something besides minions to die.
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To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
No one I played with thought that, and I never saw him in solo queue until a couple months into season 3. I started playing him near the end of season 2 and I felt that I was special for doing it. If anyone outside my circle of friends at the time thought he was strong, I certainly never heard it.
When Draven first came out any complaints I saw were "Sure he does amazing damage but you have to catch axes in team fights to do so, so he's not worth playing over the safer picks." Everybody always saw what damage he did, and unlike Quinn(weird ult for an ADC) and Lucian(weird ult for an ADC) everything about Draven's kit was always about killing people. He's basically the Darius of ADCs. Any time your buttons are off CD and people are within range you can press those buttons and they die, including an ult that actually kills people.
It took a while for people to realize quite how strong he was, but I don't remember many people thinking he sucked. They just thought he was a minor lane bully and an average team fighter instead of what he really was, which was an instant lane winner and an average team fighter who probably won the game before team fights from being so damn fed.
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either zenon is either hiding something that nobody's figured out in two months (re: qtpie on draven - qtpie played a lot of lucian at release too) or he's too attached because its his baby
at least according to lolking lucian has a healthy pick rate and win rate so maybe it doesn't really matter anyways, he's just not going to see much pro play at all
To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
No one I played with thought that, and I never saw him in solo queue until a couple months into season 3. I started playing him near the end of season 2 and I felt that I was special for doing it. If anyone outside my circle of friends at the time thought he was strong, I certainly never heard it.
ADC's on the whole have been pretty significantly normalized since the S2 "glory" days.
The holy trinity of Corki/Ez/Graves got destroyed.
Then came the days of Ez/Draven/Caitlin I think. Then Ez was adjusted again, Caits AS was nerfed, and Draven REALLY good passive was replaced by a worse, but awesom flavor garbage passive.
After these nerfs happened, everyone started to realize that every Vayne counter was nerfed into dust, so, for a short time, it was the Leauge of Vayne, with Twitch as her trusted advisor.
Then the great reckoning happened, and Vayne lost the ability to ulti every teamfight.
It was with Vayne's passing that the last of the great ADC's were banished. Forced to roam the land as markspeople.
The age of the Attack Damage Carry ended.
AND THRESH, LULU, NAMI,AND ZYRA WERE FREE TO RULE THE WORLD.
Wow, no wonder I'm usually the only one who takes exhaust in games (as support). They really depowered it. And here I thought I was was really doing well by exhausting the carry in team fights to drastically reduce their damage.
Guess I should check out the other summoner spells.
I am really liking Clairvoyance / Flash on Nami. She can already stun well, and the ability to prevent brush facechecking + the confusion that happens with the enemy because people aren't used to seeing it appear over them is worth it.
Early vision of itemization at lvl1 is also pretty cool.
To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
No one I played with thought that, and I never saw him in solo queue until a couple months into season 3. I started playing him near the end of season 2 and I felt that I was special for doing it. If anyone outside my circle of friends at the time thought he was strong, I certainly never heard it.
New AD carries just take a long time to be adopted by the community, unless they are super OP on release (Graves, Vayne, MF). To add another example on top of Draven: How long was it before Varus started seeing competitive play? Even Caitlyn took a while to be adopted by the community (though I guess she was pretty weak on release and got buffed if I remember right).
I run ignite on support usually because exhaust isn't as good any more, and I play mostly Leona when I support lately. Having ignite makes the all in that much more deadly. Heal is as good as exhaust now too basically, and clairvoyance is good if you use it to good effect, but it's tough being down a combat summoner in lane if the enemy knows how to leverage that.
I think Ignite is so much better than exhaust on supports. But last time I got first blood as a support the ADC threw a tantrum and AFKd, so I take exhaust.
Meh its not easy to be cordial especially when your designs are being scrutinized by so many anonymous people on the internet. LoL players even
It is when you're responding to someone who made a good faith post as an honest attempt at discussion.
When you reply with things like.
"Congratulations! You figured out our intent for him!" It makes him sound snide and defensive.
It's not like that poster has access to Riots internal documentation on the hero. And you know what, if the community at large is saying, "Yo this heroes got problems" - telling them all that they're bad and don't get it, isn't very helpful. Particularly so when you don't address the meat of the argument which is that it's not a numbers problem, it's a design problem.
Meh its not easy to be cordial especially when your designs are being scrutinized by so many anonymous people on the internet. LoL players even
It is when you're responding to someone who made a good faith post as an honest attempt at discussion.
When you reply with things like.
"Congratulations! You figured out our intent for him!" It makes him sound snide and defensive.
It's not like that poster has access to Riots internal documentation on the hero. And you know what, if the community at large is saying, "Yo this heroes got problems" - telling them all that they're bad and don't get it, isn't very helpful. Particular so when you don't address the meat of the argument which is that it's not a numbers problem, it's a design problem.
Yeah, one of the rules of design is that if you have to tell someone, you probably designed it wrong.
To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
No one I played with thought that, and I never saw him in solo queue until a couple months into season 3. I started playing him near the end of season 2 and I felt that I was special for doing it. If anyone outside my circle of friends at the time thought he was strong, I certainly never heard it.
ADC's on the whole have been pretty significantly normalized since the S2 "glory" days.
The holy trinity of Corki/Ez/Graves got destroyed.
Then came the days of Ez/Draven/Caitlin I think. Then Ez was adjusted again, Caits AS was nerfed, and Draven REALLY good passive was replaced by a worse, but awesom flavor garbage passive.
After these nerfs happened, everyone started to realize that every Vayne counter was nerfed into dust, so, for a short time, it was the Leauge of Vayne, with Twitch as her trusted advisor.
Then the great reckoning happened, and Vayne lost the ability to ulti every teamfight.
It was with Vayne's passing that the last of the great ADC's were banished. Forced to roam the land as markspeople.
The age of the Attack Damage Carry ended.
AND THRESH, LULU, NAMI,AND ZYRA WERE FREE TO RULE THE WORLD.
Until Jinx blows it up
I think (at least in SoloQ) Caitlyn is top of the mountain and I'm seriously wondering if she's going to get touched. I don't play games anymore where she isn't picked or banned.
To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
No one I played with thought that, and I never saw him in solo queue until a couple months into season 3. I started playing him near the end of season 2 and I felt that I was special for doing it. If anyone outside my circle of friends at the time thought he was strong, I certainly never heard it.
ADC's on the whole have been pretty significantly normalized since the S2 "glory" days.
The holy trinity of Corki/Ez/Graves got destroyed.
Then came the days of Ez/Draven/Caitlin I think. Then Ez was adjusted again, Caits AS was nerfed, and Draven REALLY good passive was replaced by a worse, but awesom flavor garbage passive.
After these nerfs happened, everyone started to realize that every Vayne counter was nerfed into dust, so, for a short time, it was the Leauge of Vayne, with Twitch as her trusted advisor.
Then the great reckoning happened, and Vayne lost the ability to ulti every teamfight.
It was with Vayne's passing that the last of the great ADC's were banished. Forced to roam the land as markspeople.
The age of the Attack Damage Carry ended.
AND THRESH, LULU, NAMI,AND ZYRA WERE FREE TO RULE THE WORLD.
Until Jinx blows it up
I think (at least in SoloQ) Caitlyn is top of the mountain and I'm seriously wondering if she's going to get touched. I don't play games anymore where she isn't picked or banned.
She's just so safe in a world where you don't know how good your support will be. Only thing they can really do to her is either nerf her range or net cooldown. That said, I feel she's outclassed by others in terms of damage and utility.
Don't get me wrong, I love Lucian, it's my favorite ADC by far, but that's just because I don't play ranked ADC so when I play it's normals for shits and giggles, and he is really fun.
But W is awkward as fuck, it's useful at the beggining for passive proc and some sporadic chasing. If you build triforce and manage to proc W you get a very nice burst of speed. But otherwise it's awkward to use and useless in general.
I agree that the ult has its place. In the early game it deals a good amount of damage. Later I use it mostly for waveclear. It's also good if an assassin tries to get to you, you can soften him up and outduel him. The problem is that it looks like a nuke, smells like a nuke, has a nuke's name but it's not a nuke.
It should be named "coward barrage", and everyone would quickly adapt to its intended use.
To be fair, everyone kinda did the same thing with Draven. They played him a few times and said "Ugh, he's too much work, I'll just play Ez/Corki/Graves instead." Then someone (imaqtpie?) started playing him and showed how strong he was. Next thing you know, everyone was playing Draven and it really was the League of Draven for a few months. Riot is probably afraid to buff Lucian in case the same thing happens again. He's probably in a good spot, but no one really wants to put in the time it takes to master him.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
No one I played with thought that, and I never saw him in solo queue until a couple months into season 3. I started playing him near the end of season 2 and I felt that I was special for doing it. If anyone outside my circle of friends at the time thought he was strong, I certainly never heard it.
ADC's on the whole have been pretty significantly normalized since the S2 "glory" days.
The holy trinity of Corki/Ez/Graves got destroyed.
Then came the days of Ez/Draven/Caitlin I think. Then Ez was adjusted again, Caits AS was nerfed, and Draven REALLY good passive was replaced by a worse, but awesom flavor garbage passive.
After these nerfs happened, everyone started to realize that every Vayne counter was nerfed into dust, so, for a short time, it was the Leauge of Vayne, with Twitch as her trusted advisor.
Then the great reckoning happened, and Vayne lost the ability to ulti every teamfight.
It was with Vayne's passing that the last of the great ADC's were banished. Forced to roam the land as markspeople.
The age of the Attack Damage Carry ended.
AND THRESH, LULU, NAMI,AND ZYRA WERE FREE TO RULE THE WORLD.
Until Jinx blows it up
I think (at least in SoloQ) Caitlyn is top of the mountain and I'm seriously wondering if she's going to get touched. I don't play games anymore where she isn't picked or banned.
Draven and varus dump all over her. Basically anyone who can push the lane harder than her. This makes her strong if picked last but not if picked first.
IMO bottom lane is the most important counter pick lane in soloqueue at the moment(and ADCs being the more important component of the counter pick generally) Mid and top can more easily be fixed with ganks with a few top lane exceptions. But even those can more easily be snowballed in your favor with ganks. Because bottom lane is the least snowbally and because it's some of the most fighty the counter picks there matter most.
Cait is a strong counter pick so long as your team strategy can move to pushing. But she is bad as a first pick because she needs to be able to push but is also out pushed by varus and draven. Probably also loses to twitch.
This makes her incredibly binary. She either dominates and continues to dominate the entire game or she gets dumped on and does nothing.
Zenon may be in denial about Lucian, but he at least had this to say on reddit with regard to someone's request that they please not change the donger's walk when they do his rework:
Don't get me wrong, I love Lucian, it's my favorite ADC by far, but that's just because I don't play ranked ADC so when I play it's normals for shits and giggles, and he is really fun.
But W is awkward as fuck, it's useful at the beggining for passive proc and some sporadic chasing. If you build triforce and manage to proc W you get a very nice burst of speed. But otherwise it's awkward to use and useless in general.
I agree that the ult has its place. In the early game it deals a good amount of damage. Later I use it mostly for waveclear. It's also good if an assassin tries to get to you, you can soften him up and outduel him. The problem is that it looks like a nuke, smells like a nuke, has a nuke's name but it's not a nuke.
It should be named "coward barrage", and everyone would quickly adapt to its intended use.
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If the normal matchmaking tries to avoid placing people in Diamond with people in gold, I don't see an issue with them enforcing this policy via duo queue restrictions.
There is a very good reason that even if the teams were to be even it causes huge problems in the game.
Yeah whether he's OP or not has little bearing on whether or not he feels clunky and awkward to play correctly.
That seems to be a large part of the complaint that Zenon just glossed right over.
Nope, Draven was always an insane lane bully. Everyone knew that. The only people who said he wasn't worth the effort were the pros (specifically Double-Lift) and this was during season 2 when Ezreal was King of ADC mountain.
Soloquers knew full well how strong he was, and when season three itemization came out and Corki got nerfed alongside Ez, he very rapidly became the new King.
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Meh its not easy to be cordial especially when your designs are being scrutinized by so many anonymous people on the internet. LoL players even
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I've had several friends refuse to play with me any longer because of how the matchmaking system works.
I'm not sure what the best solution is, but when my Bronze-Silver friends are being absolutely destroyed by Platinum-Diamond players in lane, something isn't working right.
WarCraft 3 had a system I liked where playing with a friend create a separate rating for the two of you as if you were one joint player and balanced matches accordingly. LoL could benefit from something similar, maybe using your solo MMR to establish a baseline prediction and then rapidly adjusting from there.
The system as-is is butts.
Happen to have the info handy for the Heimer stuff? Don't think I'd heard about that one...though I'm guessing siege-mode grenades aren't coming back?
No one I played with thought that, and I never saw him in solo queue until a couple months into season 3. I started playing him near the end of season 2 and I felt that I was special for doing it. If anyone outside my circle of friends at the time thought he was strong, I certainly never heard it.
It took a while for people to realize quite how strong he was, but I don't remember many people thinking he sucked. They just thought he was a minor lane bully and an average team fighter instead of what he really was, which was an instant lane winner and an average team fighter who probably won the game before team fights from being so damn fed.
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at least according to lolking lucian has a healthy pick rate and win rate so maybe it doesn't really matter anyways, he's just not going to see much pro play at all
It helps with communication and the don't have to be destroyed in order... you can do all the bot ones then a mid then both tops, or whatever else.
Also the abbreviation would help communication a bit I think.
ADC's on the whole have been pretty significantly normalized since the S2 "glory" days.
The holy trinity of Corki/Ez/Graves got destroyed.
Then came the days of Ez/Draven/Caitlin I think. Then Ez was adjusted again, Caits AS was nerfed, and Draven REALLY good passive was replaced by a worse, but awesom flavor garbage passive.
After these nerfs happened, everyone started to realize that every Vayne counter was nerfed into dust, so, for a short time, it was the Leauge of Vayne, with Twitch as her trusted advisor.
Then the great reckoning happened, and Vayne lost the ability to ulti every teamfight.
It was with Vayne's passing that the last of the great ADC's were banished. Forced to roam the land as markspeople.
The age of the Attack Damage Carry ended.
AND THRESH, LULU, NAMI,AND ZYRA WERE FREE TO RULE THE WORLD.
I am really liking Clairvoyance / Flash on Nami. She can already stun well, and the ability to prevent brush facechecking + the confusion that happens with the enemy because people aren't used to seeing it appear over them is worth it.
Early vision of itemization at lvl1 is also pretty cool.
New AD carries just take a long time to be adopted by the community, unless they are super OP on release (Graves, Vayne, MF). To add another example on top of Draven: How long was it before Varus started seeing competitive play? Even Caitlyn took a while to be adopted by the community (though I guess she was pretty weak on release and got buffed if I remember right).
It's from this thread. They havn't posted kits-for-testing yet.
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It is when you're responding to someone who made a good faith post as an honest attempt at discussion.
When you reply with things like.
"Congratulations! You figured out our intent for him!" It makes him sound snide and defensive.
It's not like that poster has access to Riots internal documentation on the hero. And you know what, if the community at large is saying, "Yo this heroes got problems" - telling them all that they're bad and don't get it, isn't very helpful. Particularly so when you don't address the meat of the argument which is that it's not a numbers problem, it's a design problem.
just a straight dickheaded thing to say
Yeah, one of the rules of design is that if you have to tell someone, you probably designed it wrong.
I think (at least in SoloQ) Caitlyn is top of the mountain and I'm seriously wondering if she's going to get touched. I don't play games anymore where she isn't picked or banned.
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She's just so safe in a world where you don't know how good your support will be. Only thing they can really do to her is either nerf her range or net cooldown. That said, I feel she's outclassed by others in terms of damage and utility.
or sion even.
#1 public posting tip: If you have to apologize for the tone of your post, in the same damn post, you should probably rethink your tone.
But W is awkward as fuck, it's useful at the beggining for passive proc and some sporadic chasing. If you build triforce and manage to proc W you get a very nice burst of speed. But otherwise it's awkward to use and useless in general.
I agree that the ult has its place. In the early game it deals a good amount of damage. Later I use it mostly for waveclear. It's also good if an assassin tries to get to you, you can soften him up and outduel him. The problem is that it looks like a nuke, smells like a nuke, has a nuke's name but it's not a nuke.
It should be named "coward barrage", and everyone would quickly adapt to its intended use.
Draven and varus dump all over her. Basically anyone who can push the lane harder than her. This makes her strong if picked last but not if picked first.
IMO bottom lane is the most important counter pick lane in soloqueue at the moment(and ADCs being the more important component of the counter pick generally) Mid and top can more easily be fixed with ganks with a few top lane exceptions. But even those can more easily be snowballed in your favor with ganks. Because bottom lane is the least snowbally and because it's some of the most fighty the counter picks there matter most.
Cait is a strong counter pick so long as your team strategy can move to pushing. But she is bad as a first pick because she needs to be able to push but is also out pushed by varus and draven. Probably also loses to twitch.
This makes her incredibly binary. She either dominates and continues to dominate the entire game or she gets dumped on and does nothing.
Enemy team had one.
Game was over in 14 minutes.
Not so sure it works.
So he gets points for that.
HAHA, coward barrage!
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