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A God Damned Separate Thread For Your Argument About National Parks
National parks are shut down because of the government shut down
Some people think this is dumb but they aren't considering the ferocious bears
Some people think this is smart but they aren't considering trees grow all by themselves
Nailed it.
What do you think?
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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Let me ask you a a couple of questions.
If a tree falls in the forest and blocks a major highway, does anyone hear the motorist bitching about it?
If poachers wander into yellow stone national park looking to collect bear parts to ship to china, is anyone there to stop them?
If people aren't cleaning up litter, what is keeping bears and coyotes from coming around looking for easy food?
As an aside: I understand Eljeffe's decision but I thoroughly disagree with it since the government shutdown being pushed through by republicans has serious consequences to the department of the interior.
All the ones with donkeys should be closed to Republicans.
All the ones with bears should be closed to investors.
They can go to the bull-parks though. I'm OK with that.
And that's why it's a tangent.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/30/woman-found-with-can-green-paint-may-have-defaced-lincoln-memorial-prosecutors/
I take full responsibility for leading us on this tangent, but really I was complaining about public spaces in DC being "closed." There are obvious reasons why you don't want morons driving into national parks while they are closed, thinking everything's OK. Though it is still unclear to me whether you can hike on-off or what.
Anywho, some of my fellow DC-ers violating the sanctity of our closed national parks:
I'm glad the parks are shut down because I'm tired of liberals who want to force wasteful subsidies on trees that can obviously thrive on their own.
And the point I raised was: hey guess what? Those monuments and what not are all technically part of the department of the interior, not municipal property and when the big bad federal government shuts down it has actual, visible effects.
Tell you what though. Send me some pictures of those same parks in about 3 weeks when no one has been changing the garbages or keeping vandals from douching it up.
The trash one is especially bad. I've seen public parks lose garbage collection for a short time and then have trash just keep piling on top of and around the cans. It's disgusting.
However I also don't see something like this being especially effective either. The most any cop's probably going to do is shoo some people out and maybe issue tickets if they see the same people over and over.
I guess a government shutdown looks a lot like an OWS protest.
...OH MY GOD
we have to stop this thing immediately!
*spews puns*
NOT TODAY BEARS
LULLING TREES INTO A HAMMOCK OF DEPENDENCY
Like a one-moron Good Cop, Bad Cop
Only both cops are bad
And stupid
Thank you, Big Brother, for raising the chocolate ration.
The mayor of DC, somewhat illegally, declared that all DC service agencies are "essential personnel". The garbage won't be piling up in the DC national monuments at least. All people currently camping at national parks are being given two weeks to leave, and all others are being turned away immediately.
Idaho officials seeking experienced hikers to search for missing woman in National Park
Ron Paul supporters chanting, "Let Her Die!", etc.
This seems stupid.
Wait, I guess that's not completely in the spirit of the thread;
It's basically a way to not be able to compel federal workers to work for free under the guise of volunteering.
Unless, of course, you just compel them to work for free under the guise of standing up for American Values.
THIS WILL NOT STAND
Exactly. I am considered not a team player because I do not pick up the phone on a moment's notice, and refuse to work off the clock. Bullshit like this is the reason for this law.
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Yeah. I mean I get that you wouldn't want a situation where someone was compelled to file paper-work for free under the guise of "volunteering".
I guess we're just "lucky" that it is one person stuck out in the wilderness (that we know of who even keeps track of that) and the 20k or so fires that federal firefighters deal with have been put out..
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/index.php
I think. I clicked a link on that website and it sent me to a shutdown page.
It's not just lawsuits but to actually protect people. Should children not climb on Abe Lincoln lest they fall? Of course not. But that doesn't mean it won't happen and it's why we have people around to make sure it doesn't.
And that you think it should just be tough shit for people who do that is irrelevant. We as a nation employed these people in the position they're in and had them create safety regulations because we did think it's important. If you think safety shouldn't be part of it though feel free to try and get the regulations changed.
Cite that it's purely symbolism other than normal regulation please.
And seriously @vorpal the thread is over here.
Incorrect. These veterans were specifically part of an Honor Flight. Many of them have never seen the memorials for their respective wars. And they arrived this previous Saturday before Republicans decided to shut everything down.
Of course that will happen, that's the bad part about it. Though actually DC gov't is going to be collecting trash even in the federal parks after about a week I believe. I was only pointing out the ridiculousness of wasting resources to put up barriers that do nothing.
It'd be hilarious if the reps that went to the memorial were cited for trespassing. Probably shouldn't happen, but hilarious.
Obviously if someone really wanted in they could. But that goes for a lot of stuff.
"Let's take this somewhere else ..." (Clearly, the people here are more educated than we gave them credit for )
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It looks like he's sticking his thumb out at the President. "This guy, right here. This guy."