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Vanish+Doom has come to the [Final Fantasy] Thread.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    I love FF5 but I wouldn't call it the best. It is insanely replayable compared to other FFs though.

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  • bssbss Brostoyevsky Madison, WIRegistered User regular
    Renzo wrote: »
    bss wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    I'll play FFV when I can play an affordable, easily-accessible version on a platform with buttons and the GBA translation.

    That seems to be pretty unlikely at this point; you should play it however you can.

    There's something wrong with every available iteration. iOS: No buttons/fuck virtual buttons. PS1/PSN: Crap translation, bugs, load times. GBA: Expensive, will likely get a bootleg if I buy from eBay/Amazon Seller.

    I'm comfortable waiting it out some more. I have plenty to do in the meantime.

    An eShop release of FFV Advance would solve everything, but that relies on both Nintendo and Square getting their collective shit together, which seems to have a snowball's chance in hell right now.

    Also it is indeed kinda the best.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    From a gameplay standpoint? Yeah I think it's the best. Storywise? No way. FF isn't great literature but FF5's story is the SNES era's worst.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    bss wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    bss wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    I'll play FFV when I can play an affordable, easily-accessible version on a platform with buttons and the GBA translation.

    That seems to be pretty unlikely at this point; you should play it however you can.

    There's something wrong with every available iteration. iOS: No buttons/fuck virtual buttons. PS1/PSN: Crap translation, bugs, load times. GBA: Expensive, will likely get a bootleg if I buy from eBay/Amazon Seller.

    I'm comfortable waiting it out some more. I have plenty to do in the meantime.

    An eShop release of FFV Advance would solve everything, but that relies on both Nintendo and Square getting their collective shit together, which seems to have a snowball's chance in hell right now.

    Also it is indeed kinda the best.

    I'd be all over a 3DS eShop release of FFV.

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  • bssbss Brostoyevsky Madison, WIRegistered User regular
    From a gameplay standpoint? Yeah I think it's the best. Storywise? No way. FF isn't great literature but FF5's story is the SNES era's worst.

    To be fair, IV and VI were setting benchmarks for JRPG storytelling at the time, but yeah, I don't really have a problem with this statement. V's story doesn't really hold up, but that gameplay is indeed the best.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    The GBA version tells the rather bare story in a very fun way, which I like.

    And yeah, it is very repayable. Even if you don't do the Four Job Fiesta, which you should.

  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    By the way, kinda related. Crossposting from NeoGAF, FF iOS sale:
    $9:
    TWEWY

    $8:
    FF3
    FF4 (Universal)
    FF5 (Universal)
    FF Dimensions (you buy this one as an IAP)

    $7:
    FF Tactics

    $4:
    FF1
    FF2
    Chaos Rings 2
    Secret of Mana

    $3:
    Chaos Rings

    $1:
    Deus Ex: The Fall (Universal)

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    Except 5 is kinda the best.

    I can't think of any metric I could use that would put 5 ahead of 4, 6, 7, 10, and 12, at the very least. Personally, I'd probably put 13, 10-2, 8, and 9 ahead of it too.

  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    X-2 is insanely more fun then FFV, better classes too.

    Better story, too. Ha ha ha.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    V is my second favorite now. Used to be near the bottom. This is almost entirely thanks to the GBA version.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Renzo wrote: »
    bss wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    I'll play FFV when I can play an affordable, easily-accessible version on a platform with buttons and the GBA translation.

    That seems to be pretty unlikely at this point; you should play it however you can.

    There's something wrong with every available iteration. iOS: No buttons/fuck virtual buttons. PS1/PSN: Crap translation, bugs, load times. GBA: Expensive, will likely get a bootleg if I buy from eBay/Amazon Seller.

    I'm comfortable waiting it out some more. I have plenty to do in the meantime.

    If we get lucky GBA games will come at some point to Wii U and SE will decide to release the Final Fantasy games.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    KiTA wrote: »
    Not really.

    I thought Psychicker was insanely OP in the original JP version, or was that something else?

    It can be immune to all damage, if that counts. Edit: On that note, I don't think Catnip works with Trigger Happy anymore.

    Not sure what to do with Luso. My old Marche was a somewhat slow, consistently one-shotting Ayvuir-Fighter. Kind of feel like trying something different, but meh.

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  • PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    Hey guys, FFVII is $4 on steam right now. If you've been thinking about it, now is probably the best time.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    KiTA wrote: »
    Not really.

    I thought Psychicker was insanely OP in the original JP version, or was that something else?

    It can be immune to all damage, if that counts. Edit: On that note, I don't think Catnip works with Trigger Happy anymore.

    Not sure what to do with Luso. My old Marche was a somewhat slow, consistently one-shotting Ayvuir-Fighter. Kind of feel like trying something different, but meh.

    My advice? Make him a Dual-Wielding Fighter/Seer.

    Magick Frenzy + Fira turns your basic two-sword attack into a ranged area attack with both swords.

    Or make him a Geomancy Parivir with Seer abilities. Similar principle, with a stronger Fira and an even deadlier attack for those who get into actual melee range.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    PLA wrote: »
    KiTA wrote: »
    Not really.

    I thought Psychicker was insanely OP in the original JP version, or was that something else?

    It can be immune to all damage, if that counts. Edit: On that note, I don't think Catnip works with Trigger Happy anymore.

    Not sure what to do with Luso. My old Marche was a somewhat slow, consistently one-shotting Ayvuir-Fighter. Kind of feel like trying something different, but meh.

    My advice? Make him a Dual-Wielding Fighter/Seer.

    Magick Frenzy + Fira turns your basic two-sword attack into a ranged area attack with both swords.

    Or make him a Geomancy Parivir with Seer abilities. Similar principle, with a stronger Fira and an even deadlier attack for those who get into actual melee range.

    I think I'll stick with one weapon for Luso. I'm likely to use those for other humes, though. Such as the one who starts with Dual Wield mastered.
    Maybe Parivir with Geomancy. Or, like, some kind of Blue Mage.
    I'd be more inclined to do something with Hunter if it weren't a wingless Gria. Still, there might be something fun hume-exclusive to mix it with.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Gria's and Seeq's have awful job choices. Humes have the best. That pretty much makes them better every single time even with classes like Hunter.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Seeq Ranger has a sweet hat, though.

  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    I don't know if it's the best, but yeah, V is incredibly replayable, and the 4 Job Fiesta is the only "challenge" that has any real appeal to me.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Seeq's are slightly better than Gria's as much as I wish it was the other way around. Viking and Ranger are genuinely good.

    Both races are basically Bangaa's from FFTA; great concepts, limited job options.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    The more I play it, the higher it goes up in the ranks for me. I'd consider it a top 4 game across the series.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    PLA wrote: »
    KiTA wrote: »
    Not really.

    I thought Psychicker was insanely OP in the original JP version, or was that something else?

    It can be immune to all damage, if that counts. Edit: On that note, I don't think Catnip works with Trigger Happy anymore.

    Not sure what to do with Luso. My old Marche was a somewhat slow, consistently one-shotting Ayvuir-Fighter. Kind of feel like trying something different, but meh.

    My advice? Make him a Dual-Wielding Fighter/Seer.

    Magick Frenzy + Fira turns your basic two-sword attack into a ranged area attack with both swords.

    Or make him a Geomancy Parivir with Seer abilities. Similar principle, with a stronger Fira and an even deadlier attack for those who get into actual melee range.

    I think I'll stick with one weapon for Luso. I'm likely to use those for other humes, though. Such as the one who starts with Dual Wield mastered.
    Maybe Parivir with Geomancy. Or, like, some kind of Blue Mage.
    I'd be more inclined to do something with Hunter if it weren't a wingless Gria. Still, there might be something fun hume-exclusive to mix it with.

    If you use a Geomancy Parivir, that's even more reason to give him High Magick on top of it, for Magick Frenzy Fira.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    Seeq's are slightly better than Gria's as much as I wish it was the other way around. Viking and Ranger are genuinely good.

    Both races are basically Bangaa's from FFTA; great concepts, limited job options.

    Yeah, in sheer numbers it's a pretty stark contrast between Gria/Seeq and everything else.
    I used a Dragoon/Monk in the first. Mostly selfhealing and ranged attacks.

    Luso's magic-stat isn't very prone to ending up high, is it? More convenient to focus on something physical than, say, Ultima Shot. I've no doubt it could be made to work fine, though.
    Ultima-abilities have always irked me some by consistently surrounding themselves with abilities that use a different stat. Not even a couple of each, just the odd one out.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I don't use Magick Frenzy on Luso for the magic component. (I have a Seer/Illusionist for that)

    I use it to make his powerful physical attack hit at range in an area effect, and to tack on a few points of extra damage.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    It's been awhile but don't both FFTA and FFTA2 have character stats influenced by what jobs they are in when they level up? I'm pretty sure this is the case so you can basically get everyone good at everything. It's not like FF V style games where jobs are independent of character level.

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  • PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    It's been awhile but don't both FFTA and FFTA2 have character stats influenced by what jobs they are in when they level up? I'm pretty sure this is the case so you can basically get everyone good at everything. It's not like FF V style games where jobs are independent of character level.

    Yes, but a significant chunk of your stats are determined by the base class. That is, the class they were in when you recruited them.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    Right. Which is why sometimes when you want a perfect mage for example you're better off getting some random Nu Mou that's spent 40 levels as an advanced magic job and then going through all the trouble to give him all the goodies from the other classes.

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  • PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    I mostly just remeber that base class was a lot more important in FFTA because speed is king and there is less room to grow there.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    Enlong wrote: »
    I don't use Magick Frenzy on Luso for the magic component. (I have a Seer/Illusionist for that)

    I use it to make his powerful physical attack hit at range in an area effect, and to tack on a few points of extra damage.

    Might be funny to level a physical attacker and switch to Illusionist/Seer. Limits weapon-options pretty severely.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Question...this is kinda stupid but bear with me. Can you mod Steam's Final Fantasies and get achievements?

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    DaemonSadi wrote: »
    I did not like 5.

    I didn't like 5 for a very, very long time. It wasn't until I gave the GBA version a solid attempt that I started to come around to it.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    korodullin wrote: »
    DaemonSadi wrote: »
    I did not like 5.

    I didn't like 5 for a very, very long time. It wasn't until I gave the GBA version a solid attempt that I started to come around to it.

    Well, when the PS1 version was the only other option, that's not surprising.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    Question...this is kinda stupid but bear with me. Can you mod Steam's Final Fantasies and get achievements?

    Depends on how you mod it. If you use Tifa's Bootleg, you will lose the ability to get achievements (and cloud saving). There's a few other options out there that retain them while still modding the game, but you won't have access to every mod out there.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I'm liking the Hunter-idea. Just need to look into what hume-stuff has synergy with Trapping, and how I keep relevant stats decent.

    Amuses me that most bow-users are relatively jolly "hunters" and "rangers" whereas Viera with bows are grim, faceless "snipers" and "assassins".

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    I really, really want another Tactics game. Is it not a thing that made them money?

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    The PSP-rerelease was somewhat recent, I think.

  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    The PSP-rerelease was somewhat recent, I think.

    2007.

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  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    Figaro Castle and FFX-2's opening theme are all I needed to convince me to get Curtain Call if it releases in NA, which it had better.

    Also, I hope FFXIV has more tracks than just that boss number. Pretty much all of XIV's soundtrack is delicious to listen to.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I always made my Archer into a Hunter/Blue Mage.

    then again, Seer also works decently with Blue Mage, Blue Mage being the only Mage with decent weapons.

  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Matra Magic is pretty funny.

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