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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    Whenever I see "the next great starship" I always change it to "the next grape starship" in my head.

    We're gonna grape you in to orbit!

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    I don't understand why they had to sex up the host of the next great starship, so odd and unnecessary

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  • KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    edited February 2014
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    I don't understand why they had to sex up the host of the next great starship, so odd and unnecessary

    What do you mean? She's their head of marketing. Are you saying there's something wrong with the way she dresses?

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  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    I don't understand why they had to sex up the host of the next great starship, so odd and unnecessary
    Dude that's Sandi Gardiner, she works for CIG and has a long working history with Chris Roberts. She does a lot of stuff, like setting up events and finding companies to make the shirts and mouse pads. She also has a Cutlass package and plans on playing the game when it's out. For shame Hardtarget!

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  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    Kashaar wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    I don't understand why they had to sex up the host of the next great starship, so odd and unnecessary

    What do you mean? She's their head of marketing. Are you saying there's something wrong with the way she dresses?

    Yeah I mean, odds are, she was the one that picked out her outfit and makeup. Which means she sexed herself up. So...yeah. I think it's OK in this case.

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  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    She also used to be a model so it stands to reason she'd dress up a bit for a show, even one on youtube.

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  • KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    Mvrck wrote: »
    Kashaar wrote: »
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    I don't understand why they had to sex up the host of the next great starship, so odd and unnecessary

    What do you mean? She's their head of marketing. Are you saying there's something wrong with the way she dresses?

    Yeah I mean, odds are, she was the one that picked out her outfit and makeup. Which means she sexed herself up. So...yeah. I think it's OK in this case.

    Yeah, and not just that... I think it's important we realize that it's none of our business how anyone dresses. No one complains about how the men dress - why do we think it's any of our business how a woman is dressed? Male viewers have no right or reason to police how a woman dresses, whether on or off-screen. If she decides to dress sexy, good for her! If she decides not to, good for her! What entitles us to make any kind of judgments about it?

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I know if my job had to do with interacting a lot with a camera I would be dapper as fuck err day!

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    Exciting homework project: mutate into a pretty lady, then get filmed for a video that's going to be shown to people but instead of dressing up, make sure you look like a schlub. Wait 10 minutes. Start reading the hate mail from men who are infuriated that you would refuse to make yourself gorgeous for them. Repeat until you decide to just make yourself pretty any time you're going to be on film. The downside, of course, is that now that you dress up, you'll also get complaints from people who are mad that you sexed yourself up, but whatever, welcome to the world of being a woman on the Internet.

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  • Steel FireSteel Fire Gunboat Diplomat PAI MarketingRegistered User regular
    Okay, okay... let's tone down the rhetoric here guys. If you've watched more than a couple of the various Star Citizen videos it's pretty clear that they are going for something more professional and broadcast quality with this series; Chris Roberts is in a business suit for crying out loud. Nor is there anything overly sexy about Sandi's dress, it's nothing I would be surprised to see the host of a similar broadcast to be wearing. Yes, it's red and black, so it stands out, but Sandi hasn't struck me as being meek and mild-mannered either.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    Considering the crowd she works with (career nerds) and the position she has with CIG (basically getting them to look organized and great instead of putting out the cringe-worthy dev interviews so many other devs do), I can pretty much guarantee that however she decides to looks is entirely because she decides it is appropriate and reasonable.

    If anything, she probably has a say in what the dudes wear so they don't look like complete slobs in a more professional vid like that weapon segment is going for.

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    What the fuck is going on here? It was a nice video, end of story. No need to shit up the thread with this silly bullshit.

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    I'm not sure anyone wants to see Chris Roberts in a sexy dress....well....at least most of us.

    EDIT: I changed my mind...I totally want to see him in a sexy dress.

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  • KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    What the fuck is going on here? It was a nice video, end of story. No need to shit up the thread with this silly bullshit.

    Wait, huh? I don't see any shitting up going on here. Until your post that is.

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  • ArdentArdent Down UpsideRegistered User regular
    Considering the crowd she works with (career nerds) and the position she has with CIG (basically getting them to look organized and great instead of putting out the cringe-worthy dev interviews so many other devs do), I can pretty much guarantee that however she decides to looks is entirely because she decides it is appropriate and reasonable.

    If anything, she probably has a say in what the dudes wear so they don't look like complete slobs in a more professional vid like that weapon segment is going for.
    That shiny gold shirt had to be a protest statement, right?

    Gardiner looked totally out of sorts in that entire exchange, though, which doesn't bode well for how she's doing keeping the raving hordes in line.

    Fortunately the art team seems to be on the same page with each other.

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    Kashaar wrote: »
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    What the fuck is going on here? It was a nice video, end of story. No need to shit up the thread with this silly bullshit.

    Wait, huh? I don't see any shitting up going on here. Until your post that is.

    Fine. I just hope this doesn't turn into another Cyberpunk 2077 thread.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    I'm not sure anyone wants to see Chris Roberts in a sexy dress....well....at least most of us.

    EDIT: I changed my mind...I totally want to see him in a sexy dress.

    Just to make this clear, I am agreeing with wanting to see Chris Roberts in a sexy dress.

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  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    Oh hey new jump point is up!

    *edit* Oh baby it's about the scythe!

    *edit #2* And there's a mining station along with a mining robot.

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  • CarbonFireCarbonFire See you in the countryRegistered User regular
    That was a pretty good first attempt at a game show / competition video for Cloud Imperium. Editing was a little on the rough side, and it could definitely benefit from having another camera so we're not looking at the same angle the entire show.

    I thought the 3 unanimous entries were well deserved. Especially the Cryo and Skyguard guns, I have a feeling those guys will go far in this competition.

    Pretty non-plussed by the entries that were cut, hopefully the later groupings have more quality contestants.

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  • VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    I'd say my only complaint about Sandi is that she comes off as stiff and forced. It really shows at the beginning when she's asking Chris or other developers questions to introduce them that you know she already knows the answer. When she goes off her rehearsed script, though, then she seems much more human and relaxed

  • VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    I liked the shell cannon too, but it looked too much like a Vorlon ship. The whole spinning barrel theme seems way overused though.

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  • KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    The Skyguard gun was by far my favorite, can't wait to see what kind of ship design that guy comes up with :)

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    I made it like, 5 or 8 minutes into it before giving up. I just don't like this sort of format of show. I can't watch Strip Search or anything else like this - it just all feels too forced and silly and honestly I'm not a huge fan of TV as a medium anyways. Just write out an article or something and let me read it.

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  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    I made it like, 5 or 8 minutes into it before giving up. I just don't like this sort of format of show. I can't watch Strip Search or anything else like this - it just all feels too forced and silly and honestly I'm not a huge fan of TV as a medium anyways. Just write out an article or something and let me read it.
    It becomes more organic and less forced when they start criticizing the different entries. Just skip to the sexy bits is my advice.

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  • CarbonFireCarbonFire See you in the countryRegistered User regular
    I made it like, 5 or 8 minutes into it before giving up. I just don't like this sort of format of show. I can't watch Strip Search or anything else like this - it just all feels too forced and silly and honestly I'm not a huge fan of TV as a medium anyways. Just write out an article or something and let me read it.
    It becomes more organic and less forced when they start criticizing the different entries. Just skip to the sexy bits is my advice.

    I agree, the beginning does feel more than a little forced, but the actual competition bits are pretty good. It's still very much one of those shows though.

    I'm interested to see what they do with it after the weapon design, whether they go straight into designing the whole ship, or some other section, like the cockpit.

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  • KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    CarbonFire wrote: »
    I made it like, 5 or 8 minutes into it before giving up. I just don't like this sort of format of show. I can't watch Strip Search or anything else like this - it just all feels too forced and silly and honestly I'm not a huge fan of TV as a medium anyways. Just write out an article or something and let me read it.
    It becomes more organic and less forced when they start criticizing the different entries. Just skip to the sexy bits is my advice.

    I agree, the beginning does feel more than a little forced, but the actual competition bits are pretty good. It's still very much one of those shows though.

    I'm interested to see what they do with it after the weapon design, whether they go straight into designing the whole ship, or some other section, like the cockpit.

    It's definitely "one of those shows" - but it's one in which actual art people criticize actual art! It's basically video game art porn, with added discussion. So this is definitely going on my weekly watch list :)

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  • HerothHeroth Registered User regular
    I guess i'm the only one thinking they are going alittle over-board with weapons? things that you are rarely going to even notice, especially in the middle of an actual fight? i mean, its like adding lag for the sake of adding lag...

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  • CarbonFireCarbonFire See you in the countryRegistered User regular
    edited February 2014
    Heroth wrote: »
    I guess i'm the only one thinking they are going alittle over-board with weapons? things that you are rarely going to even notice, especially in the middle of an actual fight? i mean, its like adding lag for the sake of adding lag...

    Well, for the purposes of this competition, they used the proposed weapon as a way to test potential space ship designers. The logic goes if they can design a weapon system, one with an interesting look, detailed animations and get it running in-engine, they should be able to take those skills and apply it to a whole ship. It also gives the team an idea of what each contestant's design aesthetic is, and whether it will fit within the greater Star Citizen design language.

    As for the performance issues, I'm sure there will be plenty of Level of Detail scaling and simplifying of assets at longer ranges, especially for ships that are not your own. The eye candy is mainly there to look pretty in stores and in your hangar bay, and when you're really close to other spacecraft.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited February 2014
    holy Christ you guys, what the fuck.

    Whether I'm right or wrong my off the cuff interpretation was that they dressed her up like that (in a short dress that with a hole in the midriff) to get more view from males on youtube, I don't think we have to turn this into some sort of insane white knighting for female rights as that was not at all what I was going for.

    Youtube is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, look at the thumbnail of half the videos on there + comments, it can't be shocking that my first reaction was "whoa, I can't believe they are falling into this trap".

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  • ArdentArdent Down UpsideRegistered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    holy Christ you guys, what the fuck.

    Whether I'm right or wrong my off the cuff interpretation was that they dressed her up like that to get more view from males on youtube, I don't think we have to turn this into some sort of insane white knighting for female rights as that was not at all what I was going for.

    Youtube is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, look at the thumbnail of half the videos on there + comments, it can't be shocking that my first reaction was "whoa, I can't believe they are falling into this trap".
    Oh, Youtube never ceases to cleave to my negative opinion of it, except in a few very quiet corners where people are probably way too baked to realize being dicks is a possibility.

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  • HerothHeroth Registered User regular
    CarbonFire wrote: »
    Heroth wrote: »
    I guess i'm the only one thinking they are going alittle over-board with weapons? things that you are rarely going to even notice, especially in the middle of an actual fight? i mean, its like adding lag for the sake of adding lag...

    Well, for the purposes of this competition, they used the proposed weapon as a way to test potential space ship designers. The logic goes if they can design a weapon system, one with an interesting look, detailed animations and get it running in-engine, they should be able to take those skills and apply it to a whole ship. It also gives the team an idea of what each contestant's design aesthetic is, and whether it will fit within the greater Star Citizen design language.

    As for the performance issues, I'm sure there will be plenty of Level of Detail scaling and simplifying of assets at longer ranges, especially for ships that are not your own. The eye candy is mainly there to look pretty in stores and in your hangar bay, and when you're really close to other spacecraft.

    Fair enough, i somehow completely missed that those weapons where more a test for ship designers. Makes alot more sense, i'm just worried about Chris talking about pushing the absolute limits of computers for the simple sake of it... aslong as it all scales down well, i guess its just wait and see.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    holy Christ you guys, what the fuck.

    Whether I'm right or wrong my off the cuff interpretation was that they dressed her up like that (in a short dress that with a hole in the midriff) to get more view from males on youtube, I don't think we have to turn this into some sort of insane white knighting for female rights as that was not at all what I was going for.

    Youtube is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, look at the thumbnail of half the videos on there + comments, it can't be shocking that my first reaction was "whoa, I can't believe they are falling into this trap".

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not "white knighting" when people are just pointing out that the chick in question frequently dresses better than the jeans-and-shirt nerds she is generally seen keeping on-track. Neither is it white knighting to be irritated that you were accusing CIG of using what's-her-name to "sex up" anything, both in terms of how that's a pretty groundless accusation against CIG and actually directly insulting of somebody performing their actual role in the company as a PR person, simply because they have flashier clothes than a bunch of nerds.

    The fact that the Youtube comments have a lot of scummy remarks just means that (surprise!) the internet is full of a bunch of scummy people, which is hardly enough to (however unintentionally) justify insulting a company and an individual.
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    Heroth wrote: »
    I guess i'm the only one thinking they are going alittle over-board with weapons? things that you are rarely going to even notice, especially in the middle of an actual fight? i mean, its like adding lag for the sake of adding lag...

    Well, for the purposes of this competition, they used the proposed weapon as a way to test potential space ship designers. The logic goes if they can design a weapon system, one with an interesting look, detailed animations and get it running in-engine, they should be able to take those skills and apply it to a whole ship. It also gives the team an idea of what each contestant's design aesthetic is, and whether it will fit within the greater Star Citizen design language.

    As for the performance issues, I'm sure there will be plenty of Level of Detail scaling and simplifying of assets at longer ranges, especially for ships that are not your own. The eye candy is mainly there to look pretty in stores and in your hangar bay, and when you're really close to other spacecraft.
    They could probably scale the detail on those weapons waaaaay down and they would still look great unless they were hanging right over your head all the time and turned the detail down to rock-bottom. Whether or not the weapons will look as good as they did in that video at all times is sort of irrelevant when you consider that it'll be pretty unlikely you'll be both close enough and moving slow enough to actually the weapon being fancy on somebody else's ship.

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  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    holy Christ you guys, what the fuck.

    Whether I'm right or wrong my off the cuff interpretation was that they dressed her up like that (in a short dress that with a hole in the midriff) to get more view from males on youtube, I don't think we have to turn this into some sort of insane white knighting for female rights as that was not at all what I was going for.

    Youtube is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, look at the thumbnail of half the videos on there + comments, it can't be shocking that my first reaction was "whoa, I can't believe they are falling into this trap".
    There ain't nothing wrong with anyone, woman or man, dressing up. End of conversation as far as I'm concerned.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited February 2014
    Hey @Hardtarget, you already dug a hole for yourself.

    Maybe you should take the hint and stop digging.

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  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    So back onto the subject of the new jump point. The Scythe is getting a visual update like what they did with the Hornet and I gotta say that I'm super jelly of @TOGSolid right now. Almost jelly enough to shank a dude and take his shit, almost. Anyway, the thing looks really good and has so much detail worked into it. I think getting one will be a priority come launch.

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  • Steel FireSteel Fire Gunboat Diplomat PAI MarketingRegistered User regular
    Steel Fire wrote: »
    I'll work on the Manifesto and Charter this weekend as well. Don't expect them to be as exciting as the history, but I'll be sure to slip in as many subtle references as i can... and I'm sure you guys will come up with more once i post them here. :D
    So, I'm apologizing right now because this isn't happening this weekend. Sorry. My brain isn't in a good place right now. Sorry.

  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    No need for apologies! You've already done a lot for the corp and it's not like the game is coming out anytime soon.

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  • VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    so...I'm still wrestling with when I should upgrade my video card. I'm still running a gtx 570 and sure, that's ok for now, but the hangar module is pretty choppy even on low and 1024x768. I know that nothing is optimized, but my thought is that it's just not going to be good enough when the dogfighting module hits. What's frustrating is that I know that when push comes to shove, it doesn't matter until next year.

    or am I just being overly negative about how the dogfighting module will perform on the 570? I don't care that it won't be the prettiest looking, I'll save that for a much later upgrade I just don't want things to be so slow to the point that I don't get a decent representation of the dogfighting module

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Why anyone would ever upgrade their video card before getting their hands on the game they're upgrading for is beyond me. I've never bought a video card without having a game installed and running on my computer that isn't running well enough. Upgrading right now for a dogfighting module that isn't out and which itself won't even be updated seems like madness, although I suppose if I had enough money maybe I could make it make sense.

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  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    I'm holding out on upgrading until Steambox hits the market. It'll be interesting to see if CIG does anything with SteamOS.

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