[Forza] Thread Has Hit A Tire Wall

Bloodsheed

ArcticLancer wrote: »

Was Sonoma in Forza 1? I've been playing since two and am pretty sure I've never seen it. If it is a F1 track, it might as well be a debut for how many people will have ever played the original game. :P
Anyway, rejoice for the king returns!

Sonoma is Infineon.

Also Turn10 put up their Gamescom report. Lots of really good pictures, including the 4 newly announced tracks (which completes the track list). Several unconfirmed cars in there too, I assume they'll show up in this week's Garage. They lay out how the League's will work, which is interesting:

Online Leagues
This week, we’re showing off competitive multiplayer Leagues for the first time at Gamescom. If you love online racing, this new Leagues feature was built for you. Leagues are a brand new multiplayer feature for Forza 6, one that lets players compete in thrilling multiplayer races that are scheduled and based around each player’s skill level and temperament.

The cornerstones of Leagues are its scheduled race lobbies. All League lobbies run on a schedule and will be open in the game during specific times each day. For example, there might be a B-Class League lobby that will be open for four hours per day for a full week; after which, it will be replaced with a new League lobby featuring different cars and/or tracks. While a League’s daily open window may vary from League to League, we are designing these windows to be open to allow the most players within different time zones.

During an open window, players can join a League Lobby and compete against one another in that lobby’s playlist. After each race, players will earn points based on their performance (what position they placed in, as well as the number of higher-skilled players they beat). As long as a League window is open, players can continue to play in that lobby and earn points; these points will accumulate on that League’s leaderboard for the duration of the League. Once a scheduled League has closed down, players will earn credits based on their final position on the League’s overall leaderboard.

Our goal with League racing is to have players always have multiplayer matches that are geared to their skill. To do that, we are organizing players into different skill-based Driver Divisions. All players will begin at the lowest division when they first start playing in Leagues and more skilled players will quickly move up into their appropriate divisions. Each time a player races, we recalculate his or her skill level by comparing how that player finishes among the other players in a race. The more races you win or place highly in, the better the chance you’ll move up to a new League division. Once a League begins, players will remain in that league until the League has completed. When the new set of Leagues is set, each player’s Driver Division will be reviewed and players will potentially be reclassified based on their current skill level. In addition to skill level, League players will be organized by their temperament levels, which will ensure that clean drivers will be paired with other clean drivers, while players who tend to enjoy more contact will be racing with similar style opponents.

Driver Division will also control which League events players have access to. A newer, less skilled driver won’t be able to see or have access to the same League events available to elite-skill players. This allows us to create race events that fit for different players, tailoring the cars and tracks to the most appropriate skill levels.

For Forza Motorsport 6, Online Leagues represent a fantastic opportunity for players to get the best multiplayer racing experience on a consistent basis. In addition to a regular cadence of updated Race Leagues, we’ll also be creating special events that will give players of all skill levels the chance to compete. Whether it’s with one-off series tied to real-world race weekends or invite-only events featuring the best racers in the world, Online Leagues promises to be an incredibly exciting, and always changing, new feature in the game.

They also talk in the link a bit about a very enhanced and expanded Spectator Mode aiming for those Twitch broadcasters.

ArcticLancer

Infineon?
BURN IT WITH FIRE.

ArcticLancer

Seriously, getting Infineon before Mugello wounds me deeply.

Knight_

I assumed COTA, and I had heard the Monza rumors so happy to see those come in as they are great tracks. But also yay Sonoma and Hockenheimring! That's it for the new tracks right? Rio, Brand's Hatch, Watkins Glen, Fern Rock, Daytona, COTA, Monza, Sonoma and Hockenheim. edit boo no more tracks. well maybe i can will suzuka into existence for dlc.

An aside, Sonoma is a NASCAR and Indycar track, but not F1. COTA is F1. Also I have to imagine this means we're getting at least some NASCAR inclusion, since Sonoma, Watkins Glen and Daytona all run races and Sonoma even has the special track variant that cuts out the infield arena.

edit: Mugello has all manner of Ferrari baggage and nobody runs races there anymore so it's a weird thing. Also Sonoma/Infineon is great!

ArcticLancer

However much you guys hated Motegi, I hated Infineon twice as much. I am simply not enthused by its return. :P

Knight_

I never hated Motegi. I fiercely nothing Motegi. It was just boring.

Bloodsheed

I enjoyed Infineon/Sonoma. I always found it to be a track that felt really good once you figured out how to take its more difficult turns, really felt like an accomplishment to ace a lap on it. Of course, I also remember that those of us that raced together in 4, as a group, were terrible at it. I think we've had more clean, incident free races on Long Beach at this point than we did on Infineon. So many of those corners were so easy to accidentally dive in and cut someone off through just in the different ways you could take them. I'm very interested in seeing if/how the feel changes from 4 since it's been rebuilt and possibly rescanned for 6.

I would say it's a pretty sure thing that an Asian track of some kind would be a pretty obvious DLC target, since it's the only region missing.

ArcticLancer

I got a bit curious about Canadian tracks, mostly because Villeneuve is easily our most famous, but the layout isn't that interesting.
Stumbled upon Mont-Tremblant, which looked pretty cool and also had a decent array of loops. Looked up a drive-around video on youtube, and now I really wish we had this track (which will never happen because it's not world-famous, but I'm sure you can make this argument about a bunch of more famous tracks around the world).

Anywho, for anyone curious:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmzYsWtfSQc

ebotastic

Bloodsheed wrote: »

I enjoyed Infineon/Sonoma. I always found it to be a track that felt really good once you figured out how to take its more difficult turns, really felt like an accomplishment to ace a lap on it. Of course, I also remember that those of us that raced together in 4, as a group, were terrible at it. I think we've had more clean, incident free races on Long Beach at this point than we did on Infineon. So many of those corners were so easy to accidentally dive in and cut someone off through just in the different ways you could take them. I'm very interested in seeing if/how the feel changes from 4 since it's been rebuilt and possibly rescanned for 6.

And, then again, we managed to muss up the track on some of the less difficult turns as well. I still have nightmares about the hairpin and you guys.

Bloodsheed

ebotastic wrote: »

Bloodsheed wrote: »

I enjoyed Infineon/Sonoma. I always found it to be a track that felt really good once you figured out how to take its more difficult turns, really felt like an accomplishment to ace a lap on it. Of course, I also remember that those of us that raced together in 4, as a group, were terrible at it. I think we've had more clean, incident free races on Long Beach at this point than we did on Infineon. So many of those corners were so easy to accidentally dive in and cut someone off through just in the different ways you could take them. I'm very interested in seeing if/how the feel changes from 4 since it's been rebuilt and possibly rescanned for 6.

And, then again, we managed to muss up the track on some of the less difficult turns as well. I still have nightmares about the hairpin and you guys.

That's every hairpin. The one on Hock was also bad.

Looking at the pictures that came out today, it's really weird seeing the 787b in not-green-and-orange as it's default paint.

Knight_

that's an interesting track. it kinda looks like someone glued road atlanta and fern rock together.

though, they'd totally add Circuit Gilles Villeneuve if they were to add a canadian track because you're right about the famousness.

CommunistCow

mmmmm Infineon. I missed you.

So I might be on tonight. I'm on call for a software deploy tonight, but if it goes well I should be able to play.
If the deploy doesn't go well I'll just ram my car into a wall while yelling "KAAAHHHHNNNN!"

Bloodsheed

FM6 Garage- Week 6:

1975 BMW #25 BMW Motorsport 3.0 CSL


2014 BMW #55 BMW Team RLL Z4 GTE


1939 Audi Auto Union Type D
1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe
1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
1981 BMW M1
1983 Audi Sport Quattro
1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI
1988 BMW M5
1989 #4 Audi 90 quattro IMSA GTO
1991 BMW M3
1995 Audi RS 2 Avant
1995 BMW 850CSi
1998 Mercedes-Benz AMG Mercedes CLK GTR
2003 BMW M5
2004 Audi #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8
2004 Audi S4
2005 BMW M3
2006 #2 Audi Sport North America R8
2006 Audi RS 4
2009 Audi RS 6
2009 BMW #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2
2009 Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series
2010 Audi TT RS Coupe
2011 Audi #2 Audi Sport Team Joest R15++ TDI
2011 Audi RS 5 Coupe
2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe
2011 Mercedes-Benz #35 Black Falcon SLS AMG GT3
2012 Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series
2013 Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG
2014 Bentley #7 M-Sport Bentley Continental GT3
2014 Dodge #93 SRT Motorsports Viper GTS-R
2014 Lamborghini #18 DragonSpeed Gallardo LP 570-4 Super Trofeo
2014 McLaren #98 ART Grand Prix MP4-12C GT3
2014 Mercedes-Benz #84 HTP Motorsport SLS AMG GT3
2014 Volkswagen Golf R
2015 Audi RS 6 Avant
2015 Audi S3 Sedan
2015 Chevrolet #67 CFH Racing IndyCar
2015 Chevrolet #9 Target Chip Ganassi Racing IndyCar
2015 Honda #14 AJ Foyt Enterprises IndyCar
2015 Honda #5 Schmidt Peterson Motorsports IndyCar
2015 Honda #7 Schmidt Peterson Motorsports IndyCar

So, paging @Knight_ .

That is... a lot of race cars. They said the theme was Euro for GAMESCOM, but I'd say that's a more "#number" theme. Though, it also includes the '63 VW De Luxe AKA The VW Bus. So Race Cars.

Veevee

Gah, the VW Bus? I think that's the biggest draw for me to try and convince the misses to buy a one for forza 6. Well, that and racing with you guys again. Damnit microsoft, let Turn 10 take Forza multiplatform and put out a PC version that cross communicates with the One. I'd even pay for Live access.

Although, my work schedule still hasn't changed so it's not like I'd ever get to race with you guys anyway. If I get the job I'm applying for though, which would start September of 2016 and have a significant pay increase with different hours (11pm to 7am instead of my current 4pm to midnight) though.... I may be back then.

Knight_

hhhhhhhhhnnnnnngggggg GT3 cars yes please. also the R15++ is an awesome addition, last open cockpit LMP Audi. was in the shots yesterday so i knew it was coming, but happy to see.

also stock vw bus race on the nurburgring. book it.

Veevee

Knight_ wrote: »

hhhhhhhhhnnnnnngggggg GT3 cars yes please.

I pretty much race GT3 in Project Cars exclusively at this point, and they are just a blast with the perfect combination of ease to drive but difficult to master.

You guys should honestly look to these for the first SBC of F6. Keep em stock, but of course fine tune the setup.

CommunistCow

Lets have the first FM6 SBC be in a bunch of S class cars we can't afford.

Knight_

stock vw bus sbc. in the rain.

it'll be fine.

(also with how many credits they're vomiting at you for owning cars and tiers, it wouldn't be a problem either way)

desc

Chaps

I need more brosef ghosts in my races

Give me some usernames to add to my friend list!

ArcticLancer

Man, we really need to update that chunk of the OP ...
Of course, it doesn't look so great to be like, "HEY, COME JOIN THE OTHER 7 OF US! PLEASE! PRETTY PLEASE! JESUS CHRIST WE'RE SO ALONE."
;P

<- ArcticBoogie.

desc

ALSO

Steering wheels

I had one on the 360 and loved it and I'm eyeing the mad catz or maybe thrust master

What's the deal with these stands?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QTVTKC8/ref=pd_aw_fbt_63_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1M2ZYMDA4T9VJQASCDCG

Is right foot gas and braking feasible or does the central bar holding up the wheel get in the way?

Knight_

amusingly, i think everyone who played with a wheel bailed out in the 360->xb1 transition, so one of them would have to float back into this thread.

also, i probably am going to miss tonight because of irl birthday junk, which is sad because i wanted to see the nightmare that is my one-77 on spa.

Bloodsheed

ArcticLancer wrote: »

Man, we really need to update that chunk of the OP ...
Of course, it doesn't look so great to be like, "HEY, COME JOIN THE OTHER 7 OF US! PLEASE! PRETTY PLEASE! JESUS CHRIST WE'RE SO ALONE."
;P

<- ArcticBoogie.

Yes, yes, it's on the list. I'm waiting for closer to FM6 launch to put up a new sign up for a new Drivers List, but here is the original FM5 List.

If you want a current list of weekly racers (aka, the previously mentioned ~7 of us regulars that are currently left), the "Driver Name" in the results (last series, current series) is their Xbox Live handle.

Knight_

You guys should do spa second since I have a chance of being around, but prolly late

Veevee

Oh, right. Forza still has the whole money system thing still.

Knight_ wrote: »

amusingly, i think everyone who played with a wheel bailed out in the 360->xb1 transition, so one of them would have to float back into this thread.

also, i probably am going to miss tonight because of irl birthday junk, which is sad because i wanted to see the nightmare that is my one-77 on spa.

Hey now, I bailed long before then because of a job. If I had a schedule that didn't have me working every Tuesday and Thursday evening I'd probably would have gotten a One, but probably not a wheel until this year anyway.

Big reason I'm getting the Logitech G920 is because it's both PC and One compatible which will help me out if I do make the push for a One to rejoin you guys.

Bloodsheed

A couple off-screen videos of a bit of Dan's GAMESCOM presentation. The first video shows one of the FM6 Homespaces. Yes, they're changeable again, the E3 Garage and now this Rio balcony are both in. The second one shows a bit of driving (not racing, really, I think he has auto-throttle and braking on so he can talk and not look at the screen) on a rainy Nurburgring, mostly GP, it cuts shortly after leaving onto the full track. The AI Drivatars do not appear, at least at whatever level he has them set to, to be able to handle the puddles yet, which is entertaining.

CommunistCow

Knight_ wrote: »

stock vw bus sbc. in the rain.

it'll be fine.

(also with how many credits they're vomiting at you for owning cars and tiers, it wouldn't be a problem either way)

Screw the Man! I'm going to keep deleting cars out of my FM5 garage because I don't drive them.

Bloodsheed

So I just watched the video I linked again (here's a Youtube version:)
https://youtu.be/7UxIllmFP6U

And that's a different GP layout than we got in FM5. Namely that's the one that cuts the Arena section. So it looks like we're getting more GP ribbons than what we had in 5. The video still shows the F1 Chicane (I think), but it looks like the old one is modeled when they go past so maaaaaybe?

Knight_

Old one is modeled in the current version too, theres just a tire barrier in front of it forcing you down the f1 chicane.

acidlacedpenguin

desc wrote: »

ALSO

Steering wheels

I had one on the 360 and loved it and I'm eyeing the mad catz or maybe thrust master

What's the deal with these stands?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QTVTKC8/ref=pd_aw_fbt_63_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1M2ZYMDA4T9VJQASCDCG

Is right foot gas and braking feasible or does the central bar holding up the wheel get in the way?

I have a similar Fanatec stand, the bar on it doesn't impede at all for me. I could right foot clutch if I wanted to.

desc

acidlacedpenguin wrote: »

desc wrote: »

ALSO

Steering wheels

I had one on the 360 and loved it and I'm eyeing the mad catz or maybe thrust master

What's the deal with these stands?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QTVTKC8/ref=pd_aw_fbt_63_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1M2ZYMDA4T9VJQASCDCG

Is right foot gas and braking feasible or does the central bar holding up the wheel get in the way?

I have a similar Fanatec stand, the bar on it doesn't impede at all for me. I could right foot clutch if I wanted to.

Ahh good to know

Now that I see the Logotech coming I am starting to debate logitec vs thrust master

The TM has a dinky looking plastic wheel and replacements are $140

Hmm

Bloodsheed

Most of the videos for FM6 coming from GAMESCOM are just the same as the E3 stuff, but Gamersyde did put up some videos of the demo tracks run in different cars than the demo in hot laps. Namely Rio in a Formula Ford, Brands Hatch in the Volvo Polestar and Sebring in the Z4 GTE. The driver in those videos is also pretty good (if slow, but they have all the assists off). Here's the youtube of the Z4 on Sebring at night:
https://youtu.be/s4F5GmMIbIU
A few things I noticed were that the headlights are actually GT-style-yellow, 3rd person at night looks hard and, just in general, the lack of visibility when you're alone on a dark track is terrifying, especially if you turn off all of the driving lines.

EDIT: Another video, a longer version (21 minutes) of the previously linked versions of Dan's presentation. Shows menus (all the menus, some that are not discussed that are interesting, like a "Prize Spinner" on the main menu) and a lot of clearer info on Career, Multiplayer. He also spends a very limited amount of time speaking about tires, I assume they're very proud of him.
https://youtu.be/jRJ7IJfTi0g

CommunistCow

Can we have a series where Michael drives some tiny MG and the rest of us drive giant trucks and other such vehicles?

ArcticLancer

No, give that fucker a bicycle.

Knight_

zooooom

CommunistCow

Sooooo foundation repair people are ripping apart the basement where I keep my xbox and other electronics. So I might not get stuff back together by Tuesday night.

ArcticLancer

CommunistCow wrote: »

Sooooo foundation repair people are ripping apart the basement where I keep my xbox and other electronics. So I might not get stuff back together by Tuesday night.

We'll miss you if you aren't there, but I'm glad your priorities are in order.

ArcticLancer

This suddenly makes a lot of sense if you imagine Parappa is Michael ... XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlptO0axoP4

Bloodsheed

They posted the FM6 Achievments very, very briefly before yanking them back down. Of course, since this is the internet, that means it's alright.

Name - Points - Description
Cover Car - 20 - Own the 2017 Ford GT Cover Car
Bronzed - 10 - Equip a Bronze Level Badge
Smooth Silver - 15 - Equip a Silver level Badge
Digging Gold - 25 - Equip a Gold level badge
Going Platinum - 40 - Equip a Platinum level badge
Community Welcome - 20 - Visit Forza HUB from Forza Motorsport 6
Welcome to Forza Motorsport - 5 - Complete your first race
Posting a Selfie - 5 - Share a Photo
Greatest Moments - 5 - Share a Replay
Record Breaker - 25 - Go Faster than 250 mph in any car
Car Culture - 50 - Complete a Race with every car from Ferrari
One Down - 10 - Win a Race in a 2017 Ford GT in Freeplay with 24 cars
First Time - 15 - Win a Race in a 1966 Mclaren M2B in Freeplay with 24 cars
Street Legal - 20 - Win a Race in a 2014 BAC Mono in Freeplay with 24 cars
Best of Spa - 10 - Complete a race in the 2015 Lotus E23 on Spa in the Rain
Down Under - 10 - Complete a race in the 2015 Ford #17 XBox Racing Ford Falcon FG X on Bathurst
Turning Left - 10 - Complete a race in the 2015 Honda #15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing IndyCar on Indianapolis
Forza Triple Crown - 25 - Complete the One Down, First Time, and Street Legal Achievements
Collecting the Checks - 10 - Earn 50,000 credits from Drivatars
Setting Pace - 10 - Lead for a total of 50 miles
Chase Car - 15 - Lead for a total of 100 miles
Modified - 15 - Finish in 1st place with all Mod Types equipped
Home Field - 10 - Use a Track Specialist Crew Mod on the track this Mod states
Mod Buff - 15 - Collect 250 Amount of Mods
Kickback - 10 - Earn 100% credit bonus from Mods in a single race
Up to the Challenge - 10 - Finish 1st using the Suggested Line Off, Cockpit Camera only Dare Mod
I Dare You - 15 - Finish 1st using the Back of the Pack Dare Mod
You Shouldn't - 20 - Finish 1st using the Manual Transmission Dare Mod
Meeting Objectives - 10 - Complete 30 Race Objectives
Accomplished - 15 - Complete 60 Race Objectives
Showdown - 20 - Finish 1st in the Ariel Atom Stig 1-on-1 Showcase
Dodging and Weaving - 20 - Finish 1st in the Ferrari LaFerrari Passing Challenge Showcase
I Got This - 20 - Finish 1st in the Formula Ford Cup Factory Spec-Racing Showcase
Just Getting Started - 30 - Complete the final race of final series in the final Volume
One for the History Books - 50 - Complete all Car Divisions, all Series, and all Showcases
Showstopper - 40 - Complete all Showcase Events in the Career
Championship Legend - 30 - Complete all Championship Series in the Career
Volumes Closed - 20 - Complete all Volumes in the Career
Spin to Win - 10 - Do 25 Prize Spins
Gaining Experience - 10 - Complete 100 laps in Multiplayer
Devoted Racer - 20 - Complete 300 laps in Multiplayer
Nightvision - 10 - Complete 50 laps at night in Multiplayer
Rain Dancer - 10 - Complete 50 laps in the rain in Multiplayer
Speaking Up - 5 - Vote for a track in a Multiplayer Lobby
Racking up the Mileage - 20 - Drive for 1000 miles in Multiplayer
World Traveler - 50 - Complete a race on every location in Multiplayer
Down to the Wire - 15 - Pass for lead to win the race within a second of the finish line in a Multiplayer race
Real Deal - 25 - Win a race with no assists turned on in a Multiplayer race
Thru the Pack - 20 - Start Last and Finish 1st in a Multiplayer Race with 24 cars
Giving it a Go - 5 - Enter your 1st League Event
Unrivaled - 20 - Beat a 10 Rivals while running with no Assists
Cashing In - 20 - Earn 50,000 credits from the community using your Design
Making a Name - 20 - Earn 50,000 credits from the community using your Tune
Takin' a Spin - 5 - Test Drive any car
Working Artist - 10 - Share one of your Paints
Working Tuner - 10 - Share one of your Tunes
Joining the Ranks - 10 - Finish 1st in a League Race

The biggest thing, and likely the reason it was pulled, was there are 3 unannounced cars in there. Namely:
2014 BAC Mono (So the Horizon 2 rumors were off by a game)
2015 Lotus E23 (2015 F1 Car)
2015 Ford #17 XBox Racing Ford Falcon FG X (V8 Supercar)

Veevee

Hey @Jazz you can drop that silly F1 2015 arcade game and come get your F1 fix in a real sim, now.