Winning games because people waste their weapons on your face when your health isn't even to half yet, so good. Once you get an appreciation of what to expect from every class it's interesting how you try to bait things and get people to waste both their cards and mana early game. It's almost like there's strategy involved.
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The worst is when they play terrible, yet still beat you due to a good draw. I mean, its the curse of chance in card games, but oh man, it just stings so hard.
Winning games because people waste their weapons on your face when your health isn't even to half yet, so good. Once you get an appreciation of what to expect from every class it's interesting how you try to bait things and get people to waste both their cards and mana early game. It's almost like there's strategy involved.
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The worst is when they play terrible, yet steal beat you due to a good draw. I mean, its the curse of chance in card games, but oh man, it just stings so hard.
Yeah, which is why though a lot of us want a that was lucky emote it's unlikely to happen because it'd just get spammed by some people. Sometimes there's just literally nothing you can do to prevent losing.
I started liking nothing but the mage, moved to hunter and warrior and now I've sort of settled on paladin as my favourite deck. You can always put something down and if they ignore it you have all these buffs for your minions and debuffs for theirs, it just feels like the deck that gives you the most control. Even against the mage, I mean that you're putting those guys down means he has to waste mana on them continually or ignore them and then suddenly you buff the shit out of them one turn and it's over. I've won games because of 8/5 silver hand recruits. When you're flooding the board people do crazy things.
So, PSA right here, listen up! We all know Brewmasters are bugged in that the card you bounce to your hand actually just flips over on the battlefield. But turns out, if you replay the card too quick, you will lock the game. The card reappears but stays facedown, and the timer won't time out. And you'll enter into a nega-zone of waiting for the other person to concede, cause damn if I am going to.
(He bounced a 8/4 Ironbark back and replayed it, to get rid of the Flamestrike damage). Sure I'm at 11 health, but he's topdecking and I have 5 cards and 2 minions on the field. And he's the one who broke the game! So I'm going to leave this on over night, we'll see what ends up happening in the morning. I think he did the same thing. The game has ended, and the real game has begun!
Okay well it went 9-0 so what do I know. One game ended while I had all three still in hand though.
Got a Golden Ancient of Lore and then some other Druid epic in the pack. Such dust.
Cold Blood is like my favorite card. Pretty sure aggressive Rogue is leaping well ahead of everything else as my favorite class. Just attacking the enemy hero constantly and then ending the game with charge minions and return to hand shenanigans.
Cold Blood made it into my hand every game never doubt the heart of the cards.
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Mike Danger"Diane..."a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered Userregular
I did it! 9-2 in Arena with a hunter deck! I made back my gold investment + a little extra, some dust, a pack (golden common + a druid rare), and Gorehowl.
I wish they had like an "arena snapshot" thing though where if you went the full set of games it would let you dump your deck for later analysis.
Drafted my new arena. Went druid. Nice fast ramp up deck. First game dropped a turn 3 Venture Co. That is a brutal play verse a rogue.
edit: Also have one savage roar because my choices were bad, worse and savage roar.
Able to finish off players who have less than 17 health if I have 3 or so creatures mid to late game is still awesome. Same reason I keep a single bloodlust in my shaman deck.
Is there any way to build a Warrior deck with basic cards that doesn't suck?
Every deck I put together is just shit and runs out of steam with the opponent around 10 life left.
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Custom SpecialI know I am, I'm sure I am,I'm Sounders 'til I die!Registered Userregular
Just drafted a pretty good Rogue deck. Started 1-1 (might have punted my loss with bad math...I really hate doing that).
Then guess what happened next. GUESS!
That's right, run over by two priests in a row. Real great...
Also, pro tip: Lady Sylvanas is a DEATH RATTLE. I drafted two of the return a dude and he costs 2 less cards because I thought I could keep throwing her down...nope. They still came in handy for some fun plays, just not what I was thinking at the time.
KasynI'm not saying I don't like our chances.She called me the master.Registered Userregular
Think I'm done with this game temporarily. Wake me up when Mage is nerfed.
They can take literally two AoE clear cards from that class and it would still be brutally overpowered. Fucking stupid how brainlessly effective it is right now.
I was going to do a late-night Arena to piss away my gold and finish 2 daily quests.
8 cards in, I have 2 doomhammers, 2 yetis, a stormforged axe and now a choice between Millhouse, Barron Geddon, and The Beast. I've decided to put off finishing this until tomorrow!
(Also, The Beast, right? I don't think 2 damage per turn's a great idea if I have 2 Doomhammers.)
So, PSA right here, listen up! We all know Brewmasters are bugged in that the card you bounce to your hand actually just flips over on the battlefield. But turns out, if you replay the card too quick, you will lock the game. The card reappears but stays facedown, and the timer won't time out. And you'll enter into a nega-zone of waiting for the other person to concede, cause damn if I am going to.
(He bounced a 8/4 Ironbark back and replayed it, to get rid of the Flamestrike damage). Sure I'm at 11 health, but he's topdecking and I have 5 cards and 2 minions on the field. And he's the one who broke the game! So I'm going to leave this on over night, we'll see what ends up happening in the morning. I think he did the same thing. The game has ended, and the real game has begun!
I admire your stubbornness, but when the game enters this state, unless you've seen him actively emoting I'm fairly certain you've disconnected from each other and are now trying to win a staring contest with a photograph.
So, PSA right here, listen up! We all know Brewmasters are bugged in that the card you bounce to your hand actually just flips over on the battlefield. But turns out, if you replay the card too quick, you will lock the game. The card reappears but stays facedown, and the timer won't time out. And you'll enter into a nega-zone of waiting for the other person to concede, cause damn if I am going to.
(He bounced a 8/4 Ironbark back and replayed it, to get rid of the Flamestrike damage). Sure I'm at 11 health, but he's topdecking and I have 5 cards and 2 minions on the field. And he's the one who broke the game! So I'm going to leave this on over night, we'll see what ends up happening in the morning. I think he did the same thing. The game has ended, and the real game has begun!
I admire your stubbornness, but when the game enters this state, unless you've seen him actively emoting I'm fairly certain you've disconnected from each other and are now trying to win a staring contest with a photograph.
We emoted for a few minutes after he initially messed the thing up. Then I imagine we reached the same conclusion and entered the stare-down, but he didn't have forums to post on so I was hopeful I would get a win since I kept doing stuff (emotes, clicking, etc) long after he seemed to leave.
Alas, I am now 3-1 instead of my deserved 4-0.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
So is the recommendation by that TL starter guide to wait until you're 3 Star Master ranked to do Arena legit? That is kind of a high rank!
So is the recommendation by that TL starter guide to wait until you're 3 Star Master ranked to do Arena legit? That is kind of a high rank!
Wait what?
No. Arena is fully based around drafting skills and some basic understand of value of cards. Watch TrumpSC play or some vods of him drafting and if you need to grab a tier list. This game is not so difficult to skip playing what is probably one of the more interesting aspects. I play constructed to get gold for arena because I enjoy it much more.
Get your 150, get a draft list and go to town. If you want read through people's practice drafts here to get a sense, watch Kripp and Trump and you are good.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
edited November 2013
I played an arena at one star platinum, went 1-3. No creature removal options came up though.
For arena you just fight random people, not at all related to your skill level?
I played an arena at one star platinum, went 1-3. No creature removal options came up though.
For arena you just fight random people, not at all related to your skill level?
Arena as far as I know is a blank slate based on the decks win and losses. More you win the more you go against winning decks and vice a versa. It is not tied to your unranked ranking or your ranked play level.
Just because you have to discard something, does not make it terrible. If you track and get three "useless" cards, you might want to seriously look at your deck construction.
I think the problem is more when you track and get BOTH unleash the hounds and the timber wolf.
These are all essential components of the hunter otk deck.
So is the recommendation by that TL starter guide to wait until you're 3 Star Master ranked to do Arena legit? That is kind of a high rank!
That's terrible advice.
Do SOME ranked just to learn how the game goes, but as soon as you get destroyed by people with better decks, start doing arena to build up your card collection. It's more efficient to do arena than buy card packs, if you are even getting like, 3 wins out of it.
The valuetown youtube vids have a lot of arena discussions with good arena streamers like kripparian and trump.
So is the recommendation by that TL starter guide to wait until you're 3 Star Master ranked to do Arena legit? That is kind of a high rank!
That's terrible advice.
Do SOME ranked just to learn how the game goes, but as soon as you get destroyed by people with better decks, start doing arena to build up your card collection. It's more efficient to do arena than buy card packs, if you are even getting like, 3 wins out of it.
The valuetown youtube vids have a lot of arena discussions with good arena streamers like kripparian and trump.
Yeah, I recommend learning the ins and outs of at least 3 classes (priest, mage, rogue) before doing arena. Those are generally the 3 strongest classes in arena and you'll either be playing with them or against them a lot.
I imagine it will still get hit with a "silences target" nerf. A cost of 10 changes things, but not too much. A cost of 8, and silencing the target would go a long way to solving the issues MC has.
I imagine it will still get hit with a "silences target" nerf. A cost of 10 changes things, but not too much. A cost of 8, and silencing the target would go a long way to solving the issues MC has.
I'm not having the issues with MC that you all are having. Maybe it's because I tend toward aggro and have more expendable minions, but many of my games are already decided by turn 7, with MC usually coming too late to swing things. A change to a casting cost of 10 will hurt the card more than many of you think.
mind control doesn't have issues beyond the versatility of the priest toolkit
no one gave a shit about mind control when it was the only removal priests had for creatures over 4 attack but now that priests can actually stall a game out suddenly everyone thinks mind control is awful
mind control doesn't have issues beyond the versatility of the priest toolkit
no one gave a shit about mind control when it was the only removal priests had for creatures over 4 attack but now that priests can actually stall a game out suddenly everyone thinks mind control is awful
I agree. Each other class has some obvious flaws but priests are incredibly well-rounded. The consistency of a good priest deck is either awesome or terrible depending on which end you're on.
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The worst is when they play terrible, yet still beat you due to a good draw. I mean, its the curse of chance in card games, but oh man, it just stings so hard.
Yeah, which is why though a lot of us want a that was lucky emote it's unlikely to happen because it'd just get spammed by some people. Sometimes there's just literally nothing you can do to prevent losing.
I started liking nothing but the mage, moved to hunter and warrior and now I've sort of settled on paladin as my favourite deck. You can always put something down and if they ignore it you have all these buffs for your minions and debuffs for theirs, it just feels like the deck that gives you the most control. Even against the mage, I mean that you're putting those guys down means he has to waste mana on them continually or ignore them and then suddenly you buff the shit out of them one turn and it's over. I've won games because of 8/5 silver hand recruits. When you're flooding the board people do crazy things.
(He bounced a 8/4 Ironbark back and replayed it, to get rid of the Flamestrike damage). Sure I'm at 11 health, but he's topdecking and I have 5 cards and 2 minions on the field. And he's the one who broke the game! So I'm going to leave this on over night, we'll see what ends up happening in the morning. I think he did the same thing. The game has ended, and the real game has begun!
Got a Golden Ancient of Lore and then some other Druid epic in the pack. Such dust.
Cold Blood is like my favorite card. Pretty sure aggressive Rogue is leaping well ahead of everything else as my favorite class. Just attacking the enemy hero constantly and then ending the game with charge minions and return to hand shenanigans.
The deck
Cold Blood made it into my hand every game never doubt the heart of the cards.
I wish they had like an "arena snapshot" thing though where if you went the full set of games it would let you dump your deck for later analysis.
as a druid main who disenchanted vancleef, trading would be kind of cool. too bad it doesnt work with f2p
edit: Also have one savage roar because my choices were bad, worse and savage roar.
Able to finish off players who have less than 17 health if I have 3 or so creatures mid to late game is still awesome. Same reason I keep a single bloodlust in my shaman deck.
Every deck I put together is just shit and runs out of steam with the opponent around 10 life left.
Then guess what happened next. GUESS!
That's right, run over by two priests in a row. Real great...
Also, pro tip: Lady Sylvanas is a DEATH RATTLE. I drafted two of the return a dude and he costs 2 less cards because I thought I could keep throwing her down...nope. They still came in handy for some fun plays, just not what I was thinking at the time.
They can take literally two AoE clear cards from that class and it would still be brutally overpowered. Fucking stupid how brainlessly effective it is right now.
8 cards in, I have 2 doomhammers, 2 yetis, a stormforged axe and now a choice between Millhouse, Barron Geddon, and The Beast. I've decided to put off finishing this until tomorrow!
(Also, The Beast, right? I don't think 2 damage per turn's a great idea if I have 2 Doomhammers.)
I admire your stubbornness, but when the game enters this state, unless you've seen him actively emoting I'm fairly certain you've disconnected from each other and are now trying to win a staring contest with a photograph.
Got a gold one in an early pack and always find space for it in my decks
Also fuck mages in arena with tons of AOE.
And Yetis are pretty awesome.
We emoted for a few minutes after he initially messed the thing up. Then I imagine we reached the same conclusion and entered the stare-down, but he didn't have forums to post on so I was hopeful I would get a win since I kept doing stuff (emotes, clicking, etc) long after he seemed to leave.
Alas, I am now 3-1 instead of my deserved 4-0.
Wait what?
No. Arena is fully based around drafting skills and some basic understand of value of cards. Watch TrumpSC play or some vods of him drafting and if you need to grab a tier list. This game is not so difficult to skip playing what is probably one of the more interesting aspects. I play constructed to get gold for arena because I enjoy it much more.
Get your 150, get a draft list and go to town. If you want read through people's practice drafts here to get a sense, watch Kripp and Trump and you are good.
For arena you just fight random people, not at all related to your skill level?
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Arena as far as I know is a blank slate based on the decks win and losses. More you win the more you go against winning decks and vice a versa. It is not tied to your unranked ranking or your ranked play level.
I think the problem is more when you track and get BOTH unleash the hounds and the timber wolf.
These are all essential components of the hunter otk deck.
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That's terrible advice.
Do SOME ranked just to learn how the game goes, but as soon as you get destroyed by people with better decks, start doing arena to build up your card collection. It's more efficient to do arena than buy card packs, if you are even getting like, 3 wins out of it.
The valuetown youtube vids have a lot of arena discussions with good arena streamers like kripparian and trump.
PSN: Vorpallion Twitch: Vorpallion
well i mean, and paying attention and thinking while you're doing that, you don't magically become good
Yeah, I recommend learning the ins and outs of at least 3 classes (priest, mage, rogue) before doing arena. Those are generally the 3 strongest classes in arena and you'll either be playing with them or against them a lot.
I'm not having the issues with MC that you all are having. Maybe it's because I tend toward aggro and have more expendable minions, but many of my games are already decided by turn 7, with MC usually coming too late to swing things. A change to a casting cost of 10 will hurt the card more than many of you think.
no one gave a shit about mind control when it was the only removal priests had for creatures over 4 attack but now that priests can actually stall a game out suddenly everyone thinks mind control is awful
http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/live-stream/
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434838 is the recap of day one
I agree. Each other class has some obvious flaws but priests are incredibly well-rounded. The consistency of a good priest deck is either awesome or terrible depending on which end you're on.
They were both priests with two MCs and Thoughtsteals.