Retinues are permanent forces that only cost gold if they are replenishing. (And to buy at the start) After the most recent patch they are vital against event stacks, and because the AI doesn't handle them that well a big advantage in regular war.
So perhaps someone can answer me this. I tried my first Republic game. Saved and came back. But for some reason I'm forced into regular CK2 with the character who had been Doge? Is it because I took over a county becoming a count when playing before? Do I have to not do that anymore? If so, how do I expand my holdings beyond trade post CBs to seize towns?
What are rivals? I noticed i had one in a previous game and didnt know what that was all about.
EUIV thing
Its also a CK2 mechanic, though a very shallow one. Occasionally an event will fire that will let you become rivals with someone giving a permanent -100 opinion between the two of you, you can also get events to make friends(giving a +100 opinion).
What are rivals? I noticed i had one in a previous game and didnt know what that was all about.
EUIV thing
Its also a CK2 mechanic, though a very shallow one. Occasionally an event will fire that will let you become rivals with someone giving a permanent -100 opinion between the two of you, you can also get events to make friends(giving a +100 opinion).
If it happens than if you are in same spot you can get a duel event which is mostly done on martial score.
What are rivals? I noticed i had one in a previous game and didnt know what that was all about.
EUIV thing
Its also a CK2 mechanic, though a very shallow one. Occasionally an event will fire that will let you become rivals with someone giving a permanent -100 opinion between the two of you, you can also get events to make friends(giving a +100 opinion).
It also shows up in the Republic, between houses.
There's an event involving pirates that can end a Republic rivalry, and it's awesome.
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What are rivals? I noticed i had one in a previous game and didnt know what that was all about.
EUIV thing
Its also a CK2 mechanic, though a very shallow one. Occasionally an event will fire that will let you become rivals with someone giving a permanent -100 opinion between the two of you, you can also get events to make friends(giving a +100 opinion).
It's not a mechanic then, it's a trigger inside a mechanic inside a pie inside of an enigma!
I'd actually dig the ability to designate another dynasty as a rival dynasty.
So is there a big disadvantage to intrigue plotting to revoke titles from your brothers?
Want to play co-op games? Feel free to hit me up!
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Actually playing as a Republic right now, since things finally seem a little saner down there.
Started off as House Visconti (with the glorious black cock CoA) in Pisa. Had a patrician in line to become Doge, he was serving as Chancellor for the Republic... and then, without warning, the Doge stuck him in charge of an army and one of the best rulers I've ever had, the soon-to-be Serene Doge of Pisa, gets killed in a pointless battle against Apulia.
I responded appropriately to my family being robbed of a chance to rule and promptly decided Sardinia should totally be its own Republic. And thus, the Republic of Sardinia was born as House Visconti took the island and its eight trade posts away from those Pisan dicks.
The ultimate goal now is to form "Burgundy" with the young Republic of Sardinia, take Northwestern Italy, and rename it to Sardinia-Piedmont (I've also considered taking Sicily and being Sardinia-Sicily or Sardinia-Trinacria). Of course, that's easier said than done. I could swear fealty to the HRE and easily tear the region up from the inside, but that'll allow the HRE to holy war into North Africa... and really, I'd rather I never saw that happen ever again. So, yeah... at least Burgundy isn't de-jure HRE (yet)? Just gotta get a foothold and slowly start picking away. Just need a claim on Provence and an opening, and then I should have the rest of the game to slap them around as I please.
And I'll be rich, because Republic, so "opening" will basically be "whenever I've got enough money to swamp an already occupied HRE in mercenaries".
Now if you'll excuse me, my eldest son is married to an of Godwin Anglo-Saxon princess with a weak claim on the contested French throne, and her I'm sure happy to help brother just across the channel.
Started off as House Visconti (with the glorious black cock CoA) in Pisa. Had a patrician in line to become Doge, he was serving as Chancellor for the Republic... and then, without warning, the Doge stuck him in charge of an army and one of the best rulers I've ever had, the soon-to-be Serene Doge of Pisa, gets killed in a pointless battle against Apulia.
Uh... Did you just attend a tournament?
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Started off as House Visconti (with the glorious black cock CoA) in Pisa. Had a patrician in line to become Doge, he was serving as Chancellor for the Republic... and then, without warning, the Doge stuck him in charge of an army and one of the best rulers I've ever had, the soon-to-be Serene Doge of Pisa, gets killed in a pointless battle against Apulia.
Holy hell this succession game save put me in a really good spot! Europe is my Oyster. The quick run down really doesnt describe well enough the good spot were in.
What are the feelings on switching to Preimogenture? Gravelkind gives us 1 extra county currently.
The reign of Adelinde 'The Blessed' Salian 968 - 1029. Part II: Opportunism is your best friend in war.
In all the years to come, the Queen never pulls a truely daring move, or wins a close battle. Her reign can best be described by keeping internal stability through paying attention to the needs of her vassals, while waiting for weakness in neighbours before striking and trying to end wars as quickly as possible. She was lucky no real catastrophe struck the realm during her reign, but also did not make overt mistakes or took risks with her armies.
Her first adult target was Saintois, which she got a claim on by usurping the Ducal title because she owned 2/3rds of the de jure counties:
Right after this war started, she became pregnant:
Which resulted in a daughter:
Which she named after herself.
Because the realm is growing, the gain from low level taxation becomes more appealing. Since most of her vassals directly owned their titles to her, getting this passed is a formality:
At 18 year olds she narrowly escapes assassination. The plot behind it is never uncovered. (Spoiler: It was almost certainly the queens uncle who at this point hated her quite a bit due to opposing traits. I did some more work to up the Queens standing with him)
When the realm is at peace (waiting for Zeeland to get ships via resupply, which is pretty slow, and a claim on brabant to appear, which is a roll of the dice), we take a trip to Rome.
We pick up the 'Scholar, Zealous and Pilgrim traits,' which is a pretty good outcome.
The Queen is crafty, and trades children like political bargaining chips. Close relatives get educated by powerful vassals, and she educates the heirs of those same vassals, which creates a great amount of understanding and personal bonds. (Later on I try to have my heir train vassal heirs, +20 bonuses help a lot.)
My husband inherits his 3 counties in England, and my daughter becomes next in line for them:
While a second child announces itself. Now if my daughter inherits she falls mostly out of my control, so I arrange for a bethrothal beforehand:
It turns out my second child is a boy though, and for now the heir to everything his father and his mother own. Long live crownprince Martin Salian!
Much in the same way as my son will inherit his fathers land as well as mine, I set up my grandchildren to inherit a bit of England in the far future.
A claim on on the independant Brabant comes in, and is swiftly conquered. I give the land to my son. Again I have 2/3rds of a Duchy, so I can create the title and attack for the final part, in this case Flanders:
News from the Far East which bothers me little:
The Queen has long looked East to the Kingdom of Germany, bordering her capital. For a while it owned half of Europe, but over time Gavelkind and revolts diminished it further and further. And at one point, civil war broke out, and the Duchess who holds lands next door rebels. But a claimholder is married to one of my vassals, and to take advantage I give him one of my own lands, a Ducal title, and press his claim:
Alas, the rebellion ends quickly, and we're down a county with little to gain:
Except the same Duchess immediately rebels again, and we respond entirely predictably:
Note that she is a Karling, which means she can theoretically call in a lot of help. However all the Karlings are in 1-3 wars of their own at this time, so I expect little trouble.
The war goes without problems, and a 3rd child is announced. Right as we win Emich is born.
Now we are gavelkind, which means the Queens lands get divided upon her death. Martin the firstborn gets the larger part including the primary title (King of Alsace). Importantly, the more titles each of the heirs own from other sources, the fewer titles they get on inheritance. Vassals like gavelkind and hate change, so for now the Queen decides to stick with it. The one important limitation is that if you create additional King titles the realm may split, something that we will see happen in the future (but not to us, thankfully)
Meanwhile Zeeland has finished some boats (15 to be exact), and we can ferry troops now. So we look to our lone county in England, and see that our immediate neighbour is now a Norse 5 year old Queen currently at war.
That combination basically spells 'attack me please.' And that's why you see our retinue already in place. We start a Holy War for a single county (since it is the only county in the Duchy), and while some Norse rulers commit to the war, few ever show up. The peasants in Lincoln do think it is a splendid time to revolt though:
Which proves foolish as we paint England red with the blood of heathens and rebel scum alike. We double our presence in England, and give the land to our younger son Emich.
The Queens daughter comes of age with poor traits (The Queen was raising the boys), but the King of Brittany honors the matrilineal marriage. Her children wil be Salians, and will inherit a claim on Brittany. (Though if we wish it to be part of our realm, we'd have to be an Emperor)
The Queen survives a second attempt on her life. Again, no trace of who was behind it, so little action that the Queen can take:
Raising my son isn't going well at all. He proves unmanagable:
Soon after he inherits from his father. Those titles were primogeniture so the eldest gets them all. I give my youngest son a ducal title which makes for 1 county lost less on inheritance:
And our presence in England is up to 5 counties.
We were pondering fighting another war in England, but our Chancellor brings us a claim on the county of Holland. Since they too have boats and are independent, ruled by a Lord Major, we ship our troops back to the mainland and get ready to invade.
A problem becomes apparent though. The Lord Major of the Holland is very rich. So rich that he can afford a ridicilous amount of mercenaries. The Queen regroups south of the Rhine, considers her odds, and spends her emergency fund on 2000 mercenaries of her own, which turn it into a 12000 vs 10000 fight. This may well be the biggest single battle in centuries in this part of Europe.
The Alsace troops win the day, and the Dutch Lord is so terrified that he gives up the land without a single siege (Not sure I've ever seen a war decided that way before). Another county for the Kingdom. At this point we are twice the size from the day the Queen inherited (91 holdings vs 44)
My daughter gives birth to a boy, my first grandson:
Next up on the warfront, Gelre. Again, no issues.
After that, my son has gotten himself a claim on Gent, the war takes a while but is mostly uneventful (The Flemish walked their army down south to a French war, meaning I had to get 100% warscore via sieges only):
My younger son is growing up a lot nicer than my elder:
But my elder quickly reproduces, securing a clear path of succession:
And he starts trying to assert his own will, trying to gain a county in England:
Also pictured, one of the endless, endless tiny Norsemen raids. These happened every 6 months and got pretty tedious. Usually they run into their boats before you can kill them too. The Queen considers the Norse a special kind of blight upon the earth at this point.
Pressing claims of your powerful vassals is usually a great move, for a simple reason:
The Queen strikes at the Norsemen in England. This Holy War yields far more land than the previous one:
Large wars take longer than small ones, but by this point we are the alpha power in Western Europe. Nothing stands in our way, certainly not the divided Norsemen. I divide the new land between my youngest son and grandson. This way my elder keeps more land in the inheritance in the future.
The war Martin started in England is still going, and I decide to start another war for another county, hoping to kill the troops that may threaten my son, as well as get more land into the realm and family of course:
Unfortunately he gets himself captured trying to resupply troops and Martin wars end with shame as he buys himself out of jail. I crush all Wessex troops as response. (Not really, I was doing that anyway)
The family grows further, with a granddaughter and grandson:
And I decide to raise what may be the future Queen myself:
Troubling things reach me about the mental state of my younger son:
He still has fight in him though, and fights the Norsemen in England while they are suffering revolts:
The pope asks to change our laws regarding bishops. Due to traits I am not terribly popular with him, and my heir potentially worse. I care little who preaches within our lands as long as they're Catholic but fear the political might and endless coffers (He has about 15k at this point) of the Holy See so I agree to his demands.
We get a claim on Friesland and use it to show our neighbours our military might. The Queen can only imagine how much they tremble in fear, hoping that they aren't next:
This giant stable realm must impress my son, let's check in with him.....
Ill, Possessed, hears the voices of Satan, and picked up several sins. The Queen wonders if the ground in Britain is cursed.
With two possessed sons it seems to make little sense to try and change succession laws to benefit one over the other. The Queen just prays for their souls and hopes for the best.
And conquers another county because it rebelled against their liege which means there was no truce:
A claim on the city of Brugge comes in, our chancellor is really working hard. We take it and keep the rich port city, giving the county of Gelre to my newest grandson, the son of Martin, and future King Wicherich Salian, who I also give land in England:
Our nephew is fighting over a single county with Germany and is slowly winning. Again the Queen takes advantage of a neighbour down on their luck:
The Norsemen have only a single county left in Britain, yet still call themselves royalty. The Queen decides to shatter that illusion:
Afterwards we enlarge our crownprinces realm:
During the war a claim on French territory comes in, picked because with it we will also gain a Ducal claim on Paris:
I check in on my son again, and he managed to become a heretic, even though noone in Europe seems to share his views. Luckily he agrees to my demands to stop this nonsense, and with accepting the demand also loses his possessed status. But he still hears the voice of satan, which makes him unpopular with the church (This may be a bug)
Up next on the warfront, Ostfriesland. More standing around Enemy Castles.
Afterwards I give the Ducal title to the my grandson because the nobles fret I was holding too many.
I'm getting on in years and check in on my heir.
So during a midlife crisis he's become a depressed homosexual. He is lucky his brother is content with his position, or civil war would already be brewing. (The brother underwent the ambitious to content switch earlier)
A lifelong project of the Queen completes:
Kaiserslautern is the envy of the world, rivalling Constantinople in strength. Not that much buildup on the other holdings in the county, but Rome wasn't built in a day. (I forgot to see if we are eligible to build a University yet)
The French King is fighting others, so it's time to press that claim for Amiens:
Meanwhile Wessex suffers Gavelkind done wrong, and splits in two. Since we have a bunch of claims around there this is quite beneficial.
Over time the Queen has worked hard on all aspects of governance, and at age 61 is left without ambition and has lost many of the bad habits she picked up in childhood. Her piety and prestige are unmatched.
At which point she promptly dies, no foul play, no visible illness, just dies in her sleep.
Long Live King Martin Salian(he at least lost the depression)
Postmortem:
The extreme length of her rule brought stability to Adelindes realm even as all her neighbours diminished in civil wars and inheritance troubles. As a result the Kingdom of Alsace spent over half a century eating up neighbouring land piece by piece, with an end result of going from 44 to 156 holdings. The many claims of land her sons held totally negated the downsides of Gavelkind, and even the next in line is already set up with some holdings of his own. Her expansion is close to the Norse lands in Scandinivia, and God willing an heir can look north and rid the world of these raiding Norsemen. Or they can look east and attempt to become Emperor, though a lot of landed is needed to gain a title.
State of the world and how the Kingdom ranks up:
Catholicism is dominant, and growing quickly. Of note is the awkwardly low score of Orthodox Christian, which makes me assume shenanigans are afoot in the Byzantine Empire.
The Kings brother holds the same about of land as the whole Kingdom used to be when the Queen ascended, but is content with his position. Future heirs may not be so happy with their station though, so watch those lines of inheritance. He also holds a lot of land by himself, greatly increasing his power.
We are the dominant Christian Kingdom, but outside the Christian world stronger nations lurk. Perhaps we need to curb their expansion before they attack our weaker Christian brothers (Who we were partially responsible for weakening)
Our technology matches our dominant military status, and rivals the famous Muslim and Byzantine scholars.
House Salian has bred like rabbits:
Our lands:
Central Europe is a mess of petty rulers:
Spain has all but fallen to the Muslims:
Three Empires dominate the East (didn't get a good shot of the Seljuk):
Also I've never seen the AI form Ireland that early before.
It happened through Christian - Norse holy wars mostly. In the end, Norway swooped in and took the Kingdom title, prompty lost it to Gavelkind, and then the kid on the throne turned catholic. I lost track of it after that.
The beginning of King Martin "The Queer" of Alsace-Lorraine!
We inherit a war from our Mother. But soon we show our resolve in battle, bringing the war to a quick, and mostly bloodless end! The King of France is no match for our might! This lets us Usurp a dutchy title and allows us to press a claim on Paris at will! Also, we get to vote for French noble stuff now. yay?
Next we turn our sights on expanding our presence in England and press a claim on Northampton since the fool Earl decided revolt against his liege! The war was quick and decisive, incorporating the county into our ranks.
The Duke of Lower Lorraine was becoming problematic with trying to gain traction with his Faction for overthrowing his excellence. So he had to go.
A Grand Tournament was held since Vassal opinion was drifting south.
Suddenly revolts sprang up. This wasnt a big deal at first, but before this happened, King Martin became a Heretic! No big deal, right. I'll just crush these guys and be done with it. NOPE! Germany calls a Holy War on me. I decide its more important to take out the rebels first, since the guys in England will get ALL of England if they win. So i crush the Dutch, then send my troops over and put down the English revolt. While this is happening i'm lucky enough to get an event where Martin converts back to Catholicism! Thus invalidating Germanys Holy War! Luck-y. I had to admint though, I almost swept through my vassals to revoke titles left and right since they were Catholic Scum. glad i didnt.
My chancellor has been busy and fabricates a claim on the Duchy of Flanders! We put it to good use.
Oh look! we have a claim on Kent! Their Kingdom is being ravaged by a planned Norse Invasion! Perfect! I like them pearly white cliffs.
Prior planning pays off! We inherit 2 counties from the realm we're at war with!
This guy was also becoming a problem...
Betrothed to an Emperor? Every girls dream, right??? Shes the current heir... so the new king may want to pop out a son, post haste!
All my Kin slaying finally catches up to me. uh oh...
1 day shy of a 10 year reign, the king is dead! LONG LIVE THE KING!
State of the kingdom:
All in all, not much was done other than to expand our Kingdom by a few counties and give out a couple duchys since we cant have huuuuge holdings.
You need a chancellor with over 15 diplomacy skill, and you have to be fabricating in the capital of the ducal title holder. Also, your target may only be a duke.
The Baltic Sea is a treasure trove of easy pickings if rolling on Norsemen is someones thing.
Otherwise France keeps falling apart and Britain can be obliterated without much issue. I find it funny Galacia is what Brittany used to be and Carpathia is starting to roll. Byzantium is still holding strong as well. Fear the Iberian Muslims. Its only a matter of time tilk they start marching up on France.
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The Baltic Sea is a treasure trove of easy pickings if rolling on Norsemen is someones thing.
Otherwise France keeps falling apart and Britain can be obliterated without much issue. I find it funny Galacia is what Brittany used to be and Carpathia is starting to roll. Byzantium is still holding strong as well. Fear the Iberian Muslims. Its only a matter of time tilk they start marching up on France.
Galicia has a weird habit of becoming part of Brittany and / or Ireland in multiple games of mine.
I let a game run in observer mode to view what happens with the new patch, and I hit a 1 in 1000, and the Shah of Persia converted to Christian Orthodoxy, and succesfully converted his family and fought off the rebellions.
This changes the balance of powers quite a bit.
Weird religious things happen so often in CK2. One of my current games has Germany as a patchwork of Orthodox HRE, Catholic Ilkhanate, Byzantine Empre, and various independent duchies.
England inherited Lorithingia and some guy off near the ardriatic, and when he got invaded he took everything the the karling-style Lorithingia controlled outside its de-jure boundaries. It is probably one of the most hideous maps I've ever seen. Also the Tengri golden horde died almost immediately because it spawned completely boxed in by the Ilkhanate, but keep reappearing in the stupidest spots possible (Croatia, western Norway) for reasons I cannot comprehend. The Byzantines inherited the HRE but lost it almost immediately, keeping half the duchies and converting them to orthodoxy. It's pretty dumb.
My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
It looks like it'll be a faction possible against monarchs who have elevated an anti-pope.
The pope can join in on the anti-king war.
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Excerpt from the Personal Journals of King Wigerich of Alsace-Lorraine
The Lord's Year of 1039, the Month is October and this is the Ninth Day
It is also my Coronation Day
It has been a day both filled with joy and sadness all the same. It has also been a day of hard truths and even harsher realities. I find out only now that the power of our land lies not with the Throne, as it should be, but with the squabbling nobility. For too long their attention has been focused inwards at the Crown. For too long we let their power grow and consolidate. Now it is up to me to break the dogs and muzzle them yet again, it is time to remind them that they serve the Crown and not the other way about.
I beg my descendents, if any of these pages survive and you learn of what is soon to be bloodied history to forgive me my sins as I perpetrate them only in the name of our Kingdom and its unity.
I'm downloading the beta patch right now, so we'll see how it goes. Before I did that though, I fired up a quick couple of games and knocked out the achievements for becoming King of England as William the bastard and Harald of Norway; I figured those would likely be easier with the current size of event troops and it only took maybe 15 minutes to get both because you can win the wars almost purely through winning the combats so you don't have to siege much of anything.
Here's the beta patchlog for those interested:
MAJOR
- Added a "Depose Antipope" Casus Belli
- Added an "Antiking" faction. The leader usurps the liege's primary title, deposes the antipope and passes papal investiture. The Pope can be called into the resulting war.
- Not possible to set up an antipope within 50 years of one being forcibly deposed
- Fixed bug in Linux where the game became totally unplayable if you ALT+TAB
- Now possible to play in Ironman mode with the ruler designer and mods (but you won't get achievements)
- Significantly reduced the amount of event-spawned troops across the board to better reflect the rebalanced levies
- Fixed crash bug in the Mac launcher
MINOR
- West African Pagans can no longer have higher CA than Low
- Fraticelli now get investiture laws
- Waived the non-neighboring rule for theocracy title grants, but made it moddable
- Now allowed to grant one higher-than-duke tier title to a theocracy
- Blocked granting away your capital county if you have moved your capital
- Disallowed revoking and plotting to revoke a title that you just gave to someone
- Antipopes now correctly lose the status if they change religion
- Antipopes now lose their status if their liege is not the same religion
- Fixed some memory and thread safety issues with the trigger 'check_variable'
- Added a blocker flag to first generation Jewish courtiers, preventing conversion demands
- Increased the revolt risk for wrong culture and religion a bit
- Antipopes now have papal clothes
- You now have to be independent to create an antipope
- Added Jewish buildings
- Added Jewish retinues
- Fixed a bug with patricians pressing claims
- Improved the "pagan converts to spouse's/concubine's religion" decisions to work with all heresies
- Mending the schism is also now possible for Orthodox heresies that have taken over and become the main branch
- Tweaked various religious events
- Lowered the mean time to happen for certain story events
- Fixed a bug with the de facto liege of primary holdings
- Now patricians will be picked sometimes when using the random character button
- Added trait "Battlefield Terrain Master"
- Fixed bug where independent characters couldn't be assigned a religious title
- Fixed issue where liege took barony vassals entire county as capital when he didn't own the county
- Fixed missed check for unlanded when usurping title
- Fixed crash bug when looking at religions in game setup
- Corrected Orthodox patriarch name lists
- Added missing reason tooltip for why you cannot make an antipope of a bishop of another religion
- Added missing crusade names for some heresies
- Fixed a bug with the ending of the Shepherds' Crusade
- Fixed some triggers that weren't correctly checking for the Jewish religion group
- Non-Jewish rulers with Jewish councillors can now get some special technology improvement events
- Fixed a very rare crash in combat
- Marriage, betrothal, and concubinage can no longer be arrange while imprisoned
- Fixed bug in the Crusade CB where a courtier could not get the king title he deserved
- There is now automatic peace with rebels if you get a complete victory
- Fixed bug where the unit reorganization window didn't pop up and split of troops was not selected
- Fixed the invasion CB for Muslims so it becomes invalid when the target converts religion
- Fixed bug where a regiment managed to detach itself from its army completely
- City and bishopric rulers can no longer get claims through inheritance
- Corrected several heretic religion descriptions
- Added some missing Fraticelli college of cardinal text
- Added a minimum cap for bottleneck chokepoints
DATABASE
- Made sure the Vikings have enough ships in 867
- Strengthened 867 starting positions for Rurik, Dyre the Stranger and the Khazars
- Added Jewish Khazar names
- Made some minor fixes to male Iberian names
AI
- AI: Adjusted succession marriage reasoning
- AI: Better at calculating odds of victory when attacking
- AI: Should now be more careful about attacking with inferior numbers
- AI: Will now re-raise its forces if current levies are significantly smaller than the potential amount it can raise
- AI: Will now use the Spymaster to suppress factions
- AI: Will now use the Chancellor to improve relations with vassal faction members
- AI: More careful about appointing disgruntled Spymasters
- AI: Will now always honor the terms of an existing betrothal
MODDING
- Triggers are now automatically sorted by their computation complexity so modders won't have to think about it
- Added trigger 'is_recent_grant'
- Exported 'matrilineal_marriages' flag to religion script (no longer hardcoded for Muslims)
- Exported 'can_have_antipopes' flag to religions (now decoupled from 'investiture')
- Added event target 'betrothed'
- Added history command 'add_matrilineal_spouse'
- Added trigger 'is_married_matrilineally'
- Added support for the 'player_allow' trigger in factions
- Added a configuration "mp_max_lead_days" which is defaulted at 7, this prevents the server from progressing more than a week ahead of the slowest player
- Added do_not_disturb character flag to help optimize triggers and lock character availability for journeys, feasts etc
- Added any_claimant effect
- Fixed error with character and province event effect where they could not trigger cause they missed a trigger
- Added a new -debugscripts command line option that will output our internal asserts of the triggers and effects so modders can see what went wrong with their scripts
- Added EVENT_TROOPS_SIZE_MULT define as a global multiplier on match_mult
- Fixed an issue with namespaces and how delayed event ids are saved
- Fixed so duplicate entries of a character's ID won't create duplicate characters.
- Added BOTTLENECK_CHOKE_TROOP_CAP in defines which defaults to 300
INTERFACE
- Fixed bug where province view was toggled when siege ended
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You don't pay for them unless they're respawning dudes, which means most of them time they're not costing you upkeep, unlike mercs.
Its also a CK2 mechanic, though a very shallow one. Occasionally an event will fire that will let you become rivals with someone giving a permanent -100 opinion between the two of you, you can also get events to make friends(giving a +100 opinion).
If it happens than if you are in same spot you can get a duel event which is mostly done on martial score.
It also shows up in the Republic, between houses.
There's an event involving pirates that can end a Republic rivalry, and it's awesome.
It's not a mechanic then, it's a trigger inside a mechanic inside a pie inside of an enigma!
I'd actually dig the ability to designate another dynasty as a rival dynasty.
Want to play co-op games? Feel free to hit me up!
Started off as House Visconti (with the glorious black cock CoA) in Pisa. Had a patrician in line to become Doge, he was serving as Chancellor for the Republic... and then, without warning, the Doge stuck him in charge of an army and one of the best rulers I've ever had, the soon-to-be Serene Doge of Pisa, gets killed in a pointless battle against Apulia.
I responded appropriately to my family being robbed of a chance to rule and promptly decided Sardinia should totally be its own Republic. And thus, the Republic of Sardinia was born as House Visconti took the island and its eight trade posts away from those Pisan dicks.
The ultimate goal now is to form "Burgundy" with the young Republic of Sardinia, take Northwestern Italy, and rename it to Sardinia-Piedmont (I've also considered taking Sicily and being Sardinia-Sicily or Sardinia-Trinacria). Of course, that's easier said than done. I could swear fealty to the HRE and easily tear the region up from the inside, but that'll allow the HRE to holy war into North Africa... and really, I'd rather I never saw that happen ever again. So, yeah... at least Burgundy isn't de-jure HRE (yet)? Just gotta get a foothold and slowly start picking away. Just need a claim on Provence and an opening, and then I should have the rest of the game to slap them around as I please.
And I'll be rich, because Republic, so "opening" will basically be "whenever I've got enough money to swamp an already occupied HRE in mercenaries".
Now if you'll excuse me, my eldest son is married to an of Godwin Anglo-Saxon princess with a weak claim on the contested French throne, and her I'm sure happy to help brother just across the channel.
Uh... Did you just attend a tournament?
Do not mock the black cock of Visconti.
What are the feelings on switching to Preimogenture? Gravelkind gives us 1 extra county currently.
Annnnnd event troops are bullshit.
In all the years to come, the Queen never pulls a truely daring move, or wins a close battle. Her reign can best be described by keeping internal stability through paying attention to the needs of her vassals, while waiting for weakness in neighbours before striking and trying to end wars as quickly as possible. She was lucky no real catastrophe struck the realm during her reign, but also did not make overt mistakes or took risks with her armies.
Her first adult target was Saintois, which she got a claim on by usurping the Ducal title because she owned 2/3rds of the de jure counties:
Right after this war started, she became pregnant:
Which resulted in a daughter:
Which she named after herself.
Because the realm is growing, the gain from low level taxation becomes more appealing. Since most of her vassals directly owned their titles to her, getting this passed is a formality:
At 18 year olds she narrowly escapes assassination. The plot behind it is never uncovered. (Spoiler: It was almost certainly the queens uncle who at this point hated her quite a bit due to opposing traits. I did some more work to up the Queens standing with him)
When the realm is at peace (waiting for Zeeland to get ships via resupply, which is pretty slow, and a claim on brabant to appear, which is a roll of the dice), we take a trip to Rome.
We pick up the 'Scholar, Zealous and Pilgrim traits,' which is a pretty good outcome.
The Queen is crafty, and trades children like political bargaining chips. Close relatives get educated by powerful vassals, and she educates the heirs of those same vassals, which creates a great amount of understanding and personal bonds. (Later on I try to have my heir train vassal heirs, +20 bonuses help a lot.)
My husband inherits his 3 counties in England, and my daughter becomes next in line for them:
While a second child announces itself. Now if my daughter inherits she falls mostly out of my control, so I arrange for a bethrothal beforehand:
It turns out my second child is a boy though, and for now the heir to everything his father and his mother own. Long live crownprince Martin Salian!
Much in the same way as my son will inherit his fathers land as well as mine, I set up my grandchildren to inherit a bit of England in the far future.
A claim on on the independant Brabant comes in, and is swiftly conquered. I give the land to my son. Again I have 2/3rds of a Duchy, so I can create the title and attack for the final part, in this case Flanders:
News from the Far East which bothers me little:
The Queen has long looked East to the Kingdom of Germany, bordering her capital. For a while it owned half of Europe, but over time Gavelkind and revolts diminished it further and further. And at one point, civil war broke out, and the Duchess who holds lands next door rebels. But a claimholder is married to one of my vassals, and to take advantage I give him one of my own lands, a Ducal title, and press his claim:
Alas, the rebellion ends quickly, and we're down a county with little to gain:
Except the same Duchess immediately rebels again, and we respond entirely predictably:
Note that she is a Karling, which means she can theoretically call in a lot of help. However all the Karlings are in 1-3 wars of their own at this time, so I expect little trouble.
The war goes without problems, and a 3rd child is announced. Right as we win Emich is born.
Now we are gavelkind, which means the Queens lands get divided upon her death. Martin the firstborn gets the larger part including the primary title (King of Alsace). Importantly, the more titles each of the heirs own from other sources, the fewer titles they get on inheritance. Vassals like gavelkind and hate change, so for now the Queen decides to stick with it. The one important limitation is that if you create additional King titles the realm may split, something that we will see happen in the future (but not to us, thankfully)
Meanwhile Zeeland has finished some boats (15 to be exact), and we can ferry troops now. So we look to our lone county in England, and see that our immediate neighbour is now a Norse 5 year old Queen currently at war.
That combination basically spells 'attack me please.' And that's why you see our retinue already in place. We start a Holy War for a single county (since it is the only county in the Duchy), and while some Norse rulers commit to the war, few ever show up. The peasants in Lincoln do think it is a splendid time to revolt though:
Which proves foolish as we paint England red with the blood of heathens and rebel scum alike. We double our presence in England, and give the land to our younger son Emich.
The Queens daughter comes of age with poor traits (The Queen was raising the boys), but the King of Brittany honors the matrilineal marriage. Her children wil be Salians, and will inherit a claim on Brittany. (Though if we wish it to be part of our realm, we'd have to be an Emperor)
The Queen survives a second attempt on her life. Again, no trace of who was behind it, so little action that the Queen can take:
Raising my son isn't going well at all. He proves unmanagable:
Soon after he inherits from his father. Those titles were primogeniture so the eldest gets them all. I give my youngest son a ducal title which makes for 1 county lost less on inheritance:
And our presence in England is up to 5 counties.
We were pondering fighting another war in England, but our Chancellor brings us a claim on the county of Holland. Since they too have boats and are independent, ruled by a Lord Major, we ship our troops back to the mainland and get ready to invade.
A problem becomes apparent though. The Lord Major of the Holland is very rich. So rich that he can afford a ridicilous amount of mercenaries. The Queen regroups south of the Rhine, considers her odds, and spends her emergency fund on 2000 mercenaries of her own, which turn it into a 12000 vs 10000 fight. This may well be the biggest single battle in centuries in this part of Europe.
The Alsace troops win the day, and the Dutch Lord is so terrified that he gives up the land without a single siege (Not sure I've ever seen a war decided that way before). Another county for the Kingdom. At this point we are twice the size from the day the Queen inherited (91 holdings vs 44)
My daughter gives birth to a boy, my first grandson:
Next up on the warfront, Gelre. Again, no issues.
After that, my son has gotten himself a claim on Gent, the war takes a while but is mostly uneventful (The Flemish walked their army down south to a French war, meaning I had to get 100% warscore via sieges only):
My younger son is growing up a lot nicer than my elder:
But my elder quickly reproduces, securing a clear path of succession:
And he starts trying to assert his own will, trying to gain a county in England:
Also pictured, one of the endless, endless tiny Norsemen raids. These happened every 6 months and got pretty tedious. Usually they run into their boats before you can kill them too. The Queen considers the Norse a special kind of blight upon the earth at this point.
Pressing claims of your powerful vassals is usually a great move, for a simple reason:
The Queen strikes at the Norsemen in England. This Holy War yields far more land than the previous one:
Large wars take longer than small ones, but by this point we are the alpha power in Western Europe. Nothing stands in our way, certainly not the divided Norsemen. I divide the new land between my youngest son and grandson. This way my elder keeps more land in the inheritance in the future.
The war Martin started in England is still going, and I decide to start another war for another county, hoping to kill the troops that may threaten my son, as well as get more land into the realm and family of course:
Unfortunately he gets himself captured trying to resupply troops and Martin wars end with shame as he buys himself out of jail. I crush all Wessex troops as response. (Not really, I was doing that anyway)
The family grows further, with a granddaughter and grandson:
And I decide to raise what may be the future Queen myself:
Troubling things reach me about the mental state of my younger son:
He still has fight in him though, and fights the Norsemen in England while they are suffering revolts:
The pope asks to change our laws regarding bishops. Due to traits I am not terribly popular with him, and my heir potentially worse. I care little who preaches within our lands as long as they're Catholic but fear the political might and endless coffers (He has about 15k at this point) of the Holy See so I agree to his demands.
We get a claim on Friesland and use it to show our neighbours our military might. The Queen can only imagine how much they tremble in fear, hoping that they aren't next:
This giant stable realm must impress my son, let's check in with him.....
Ill, Possessed, hears the voices of Satan, and picked up several sins. The Queen wonders if the ground in Britain is cursed.
With two possessed sons it seems to make little sense to try and change succession laws to benefit one over the other. The Queen just prays for their souls and hopes for the best.
And conquers another county because it rebelled against their liege which means there was no truce:
A claim on the city of Brugge comes in, our chancellor is really working hard. We take it and keep the rich port city, giving the county of Gelre to my newest grandson, the son of Martin, and future King Wicherich Salian, who I also give land in England:
Our nephew is fighting over a single county with Germany and is slowly winning. Again the Queen takes advantage of a neighbour down on their luck:
The Norsemen have only a single county left in Britain, yet still call themselves royalty. The Queen decides to shatter that illusion:
Afterwards we enlarge our crownprinces realm:
During the war a claim on French territory comes in, picked because with it we will also gain a Ducal claim on Paris:
I check in on my son again, and he managed to become a heretic, even though noone in Europe seems to share his views. Luckily he agrees to my demands to stop this nonsense, and with accepting the demand also loses his possessed status. But he still hears the voice of satan, which makes him unpopular with the church (This may be a bug)
Up next on the warfront, Ostfriesland. More standing around Enemy Castles.
Afterwards I give the Ducal title to the my grandson because the nobles fret I was holding too many.
I'm getting on in years and check in on my heir.
So during a midlife crisis he's become a depressed homosexual. He is lucky his brother is content with his position, or civil war would already be brewing. (The brother underwent the ambitious to content switch earlier)
A lifelong project of the Queen completes:
Kaiserslautern is the envy of the world, rivalling Constantinople in strength. Not that much buildup on the other holdings in the county, but Rome wasn't built in a day. (I forgot to see if we are eligible to build a University yet)
The French King is fighting others, so it's time to press that claim for Amiens:
Meanwhile Wessex suffers Gavelkind done wrong, and splits in two. Since we have a bunch of claims around there this is quite beneficial.
Over time the Queen has worked hard on all aspects of governance, and at age 61 is left without ambition and has lost many of the bad habits she picked up in childhood. Her piety and prestige are unmatched.
At which point she promptly dies, no foul play, no visible illness, just dies in her sleep.
Long Live King Martin Salian(he at least lost the depression)
I'll post a state of the realm/world in a bit.
Also I've never seen the AI form Ireland that early before.
The extreme length of her rule brought stability to Adelindes realm even as all her neighbours diminished in civil wars and inheritance troubles. As a result the Kingdom of Alsace spent over half a century eating up neighbouring land piece by piece, with an end result of going from 44 to 156 holdings. The many claims of land her sons held totally negated the downsides of Gavelkind, and even the next in line is already set up with some holdings of his own. Her expansion is close to the Norse lands in Scandinivia, and God willing an heir can look north and rid the world of these raiding Norsemen. Or they can look east and attempt to become Emperor, though a lot of landed is needed to gain a title.
State of the world and how the Kingdom ranks up:
Catholicism is dominant, and growing quickly. Of note is the awkwardly low score of Orthodox Christian, which makes me assume shenanigans are afoot in the Byzantine Empire.
The Kings brother holds the same about of land as the whole Kingdom used to be when the Queen ascended, but is content with his position. Future heirs may not be so happy with their station though, so watch those lines of inheritance. He also holds a lot of land by himself, greatly increasing his power.
We are the dominant Christian Kingdom, but outside the Christian world stronger nations lurk. Perhaps we need to curb their expansion before they attack our weaker Christian brothers (Who we were partially responsible for weakening)
Our technology matches our dominant military status, and rivals the famous Muslim and Byzantine scholars.
House Salian has bred like rabbits:
Our lands:
Central Europe is a mess of petty rulers:
Spain has all but fallen to the Muslims:
Three Empires dominate the East (didn't get a good shot of the Seljuk):
It happened through Christian - Norse holy wars mostly. In the end, Norway swooped in and took the Kingdom title, prompty lost it to Gavelkind, and then the kid on the throne turned catholic. I lost track of it after that.
@Trace
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ki8tt0txqrvnm6z/WlntYfeNAa/Alsace-Lorraine1039_10_09.ck2
I just got 4.5k gold for killing 30k peasants.
Next we turn our sights on expanding our presence in England and press a claim on Northampton since the fool Earl decided revolt against his liege! The war was quick and decisive, incorporating the county into our ranks.
The Duke of Lower Lorraine was becoming problematic with trying to gain traction with his Faction for overthrowing his excellence. So he had to go.
A Grand Tournament was held since Vassal opinion was drifting south.
Suddenly revolts sprang up. This wasnt a big deal at first, but before this happened, King Martin became a Heretic! No big deal, right. I'll just crush these guys and be done with it. NOPE! Germany calls a Holy War on me. I decide its more important to take out the rebels first, since the guys in England will get ALL of England if they win. So i crush the Dutch, then send my troops over and put down the English revolt. While this is happening i'm lucky enough to get an event where Martin converts back to Catholicism! Thus invalidating Germanys Holy War! Luck-y. I had to admint though, I almost swept through my vassals to revoke titles left and right since they were Catholic Scum. glad i didnt.
My chancellor has been busy and fabricates a claim on the Duchy of Flanders! We put it to good use.
Oh look! we have a claim on Kent! Their Kingdom is being ravaged by a planned Norse Invasion! Perfect! I like them pearly white cliffs.
Prior planning pays off! We inherit 2 counties from the realm we're at war with!
This guy was also becoming a problem...
Betrothed to an Emperor? Every girls dream, right??? Shes the current heir... so the new king may want to pop out a son, post haste!
All my Kin slaying finally catches up to me. uh oh...
1 day shy of a 10 year reign, the king is dead! LONG LIVE THE KING!
State of the kingdom:
All in all, not much was done other than to expand our Kingdom by a few counties and give out a couple duchys since we cant have huuuuge holdings.
I'm not sure of the entire requirements but it appears possible only if your chancellor is fabricating in its capitol.
It was only 300 some odd gold and a pile of prestige. A steal!
Otherwise France keeps falling apart and Britain can be obliterated without much issue. I find it funny Galacia is what Brittany used to be and Carpathia is starting to roll. Byzantium is still holding strong as well. Fear the Iberian Muslims. Its only a matter of time tilk they start marching up on France.
Galicia has a weird habit of becoming part of Brittany and / or Ireland in multiple games of mine.
This changes the balance of powers quite a bit.
England inherited Lorithingia and some guy off near the ardriatic, and when he got invaded he took everything the the karling-style Lorithingia controlled outside its de-jure boundaries. It is probably one of the most hideous maps I've ever seen. Also the Tengri golden horde died almost immediately because it spawned completely boxed in by the Ilkhanate, but keep reappearing in the stupidest spots possible (Croatia, western Norway) for reasons I cannot comprehend. The Byzantines inherited the HRE but lost it almost immediately, keeping half the duchies and converting them to orthodoxy. It's pretty dumb.
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Antiquing?
Someone link to the patch notes for those of us at work!
A king elevated by an anti-pope?
The pope can join in on the anti-king war.
The Lord's Year of 1039, the Month is October and this is the Ninth Day
It is also my Coronation Day
It has been a day both filled with joy and sadness all the same. It has also been a day of hard truths and even harsher realities. I find out only now that the power of our land lies not with the Throne, as it should be, but with the squabbling nobility. For too long their attention has been focused inwards at the Crown. For too long we let their power grow and consolidate. Now it is up to me to break the dogs and muzzle them yet again, it is time to remind them that they serve the Crown and not the other way about.
I beg my descendents, if any of these pages survive and you learn of what is soon to be bloodied history to forgive me my sins as I perpetrate them only in the name of our Kingdom and its unity.
Here's the beta patchlog for those interested:
- Added a "Depose Antipope" Casus Belli
- Added an "Antiking" faction. The leader usurps the liege's primary title, deposes the antipope and passes papal investiture. The Pope can be called into the resulting war.
- Not possible to set up an antipope within 50 years of one being forcibly deposed
- Fixed bug in Linux where the game became totally unplayable if you ALT+TAB
- Now possible to play in Ironman mode with the ruler designer and mods (but you won't get achievements)
- Significantly reduced the amount of event-spawned troops across the board to better reflect the rebalanced levies
- Fixed crash bug in the Mac launcher
MINOR
- West African Pagans can no longer have higher CA than Low
- Fraticelli now get investiture laws
- Waived the non-neighboring rule for theocracy title grants, but made it moddable
- Now allowed to grant one higher-than-duke tier title to a theocracy
- Blocked granting away your capital county if you have moved your capital
- Disallowed revoking and plotting to revoke a title that you just gave to someone
- Antipopes now correctly lose the status if they change religion
- Antipopes now lose their status if their liege is not the same religion
- Fixed some memory and thread safety issues with the trigger 'check_variable'
- Added a blocker flag to first generation Jewish courtiers, preventing conversion demands
- Increased the revolt risk for wrong culture and religion a bit
- Antipopes now have papal clothes
- You now have to be independent to create an antipope
- Added Jewish buildings
- Added Jewish retinues
- Fixed a bug with patricians pressing claims
- Improved the "pagan converts to spouse's/concubine's religion" decisions to work with all heresies
- Mending the schism is also now possible for Orthodox heresies that have taken over and become the main branch
- Tweaked various religious events
- Lowered the mean time to happen for certain story events
- Fixed a bug with the de facto liege of primary holdings
- Now patricians will be picked sometimes when using the random character button
- Added trait "Battlefield Terrain Master"
- Fixed bug where independent characters couldn't be assigned a religious title
- Fixed issue where liege took barony vassals entire county as capital when he didn't own the county
- Fixed missed check for unlanded when usurping title
- Fixed crash bug when looking at religions in game setup
- Corrected Orthodox patriarch name lists
- Added missing reason tooltip for why you cannot make an antipope of a bishop of another religion
- Added missing crusade names for some heresies
- Fixed a bug with the ending of the Shepherds' Crusade
- Fixed some triggers that weren't correctly checking for the Jewish religion group
- Non-Jewish rulers with Jewish councillors can now get some special technology improvement events
- Fixed a very rare crash in combat
- Marriage, betrothal, and concubinage can no longer be arrange while imprisoned
- Fixed bug in the Crusade CB where a courtier could not get the king title he deserved
- There is now automatic peace with rebels if you get a complete victory
- Fixed bug where the unit reorganization window didn't pop up and split of troops was not selected
- Fixed the invasion CB for Muslims so it becomes invalid when the target converts religion
- Fixed bug where a regiment managed to detach itself from its army completely
- City and bishopric rulers can no longer get claims through inheritance
- Corrected several heretic religion descriptions
- Added some missing Fraticelli college of cardinal text
- Added a minimum cap for bottleneck chokepoints
DATABASE
- Made sure the Vikings have enough ships in 867
- Strengthened 867 starting positions for Rurik, Dyre the Stranger and the Khazars
- Added Jewish Khazar names
- Made some minor fixes to male Iberian names
AI
- AI: Adjusted succession marriage reasoning
- AI: Better at calculating odds of victory when attacking
- AI: Should now be more careful about attacking with inferior numbers
- AI: Will now re-raise its forces if current levies are significantly smaller than the potential amount it can raise
- AI: Will now use the Spymaster to suppress factions
- AI: Will now use the Chancellor to improve relations with vassal faction members
- AI: More careful about appointing disgruntled Spymasters
- AI: Will now always honor the terms of an existing betrothal
MODDING
- Triggers are now automatically sorted by their computation complexity so modders won't have to think about it
- Added trigger 'is_recent_grant'
- Exported 'matrilineal_marriages' flag to religion script (no longer hardcoded for Muslims)
- Exported 'can_have_antipopes' flag to religions (now decoupled from 'investiture')
- Added event target 'betrothed'
- Added history command 'add_matrilineal_spouse'
- Added trigger 'is_married_matrilineally'
- Added support for the 'player_allow' trigger in factions
- Added a configuration "mp_max_lead_days" which is defaulted at 7, this prevents the server from progressing more than a week ahead of the slowest player
- Added do_not_disturb character flag to help optimize triggers and lock character availability for journeys, feasts etc
- Added any_claimant effect
- Fixed error with character and province event effect where they could not trigger cause they missed a trigger
- Added a new -debugscripts command line option that will output our internal asserts of the triggers and effects so modders can see what went wrong with their scripts
- Added EVENT_TROOPS_SIZE_MULT define as a global multiplier on match_mult
- Fixed an issue with namespaces and how delayed event ids are saved
- Fixed so duplicate entries of a character's ID won't create duplicate characters.
- Added BOTTLENECK_CHOKE_TROOP_CAP in defines which defaults to 300
INTERFACE
- Fixed bug where province view was toggled when siege ended
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