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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    So my first cursed item was...sour meat! Woot!

    Bitterblack Isle:
    But then I found the chained up Cyclops that I can't kill (in a reasonable amount of time) even though it's chained up.

    Then on the way out I opened a chest by the water I missed and a giant snake pops out and tries to swallow me whole. Then it seems to have ran.


    So that was neat.

    Oh and gear question: I've been wearing total outfights up until now. Is it better to use individual pieces? I should probably do the math.


    Yeah, depends on what you want from them.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    it's better to gear up to look fabulous

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Specially if you are a Magick Archer.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    It's better to wear an Archwizard's Helm.

  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    Specially if you are a Magick Archer.

    Everything looks better when it’s on fire.

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    Specially if you are a Magick Archer.

    Everything looks better when it’s on fire.

    Freddie Mercury arisen: "A Kind of Magick" :P

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Ten shafts of light that show the way
    No undead man can win this day.

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    I'm still under level 100. And still kind of torn on what I want to turn myself into in terms of a wrecking ball of fury for Bitter Black Isle. I've only gone through a bit of that place, and I've gotten absolutely stomped more than a few times.

    No matter which way I go I'll need to get better gear, so I'm not really any better off no matter which way I go.

    I love the Magic Knight and Magic archer classes. But I also like the standard bow/dagger classes as well. The ability to snipe things from nearly any visible range comes in ridiculously handy, and none of the magic classes can truly replicate that.

    On the other hand, sorcerer is pretty fun at high levels too. Especially when you can either plant a big spell in the middle of a whole bunch of monsters, or right on top of one of the big critters.
    But I usually need to rely on a fighter/warrior pawn to keep things off me for a great deal of the game that way... and they can be less than useful at that role.

    I need to get my UR dragon farm on no matter which way I go, so I've still got some work to do to get there.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Four Sorcerers can draw faster than other cowboys.

  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    I'm still under level 100. And still kind of torn on what I want to turn myself into in terms of a wrecking ball of fury for Bitter Black Isle. I've only gone through a bit of that place, and I've gotten absolutely stomped more than a few times.

    No matter which way I go I'll need to get better gear, so I'm not really any better off no matter which way I go.

    I love the Magic Knight and Magic archer classes. But I also like the standard bow/dagger classes as well. The ability to snipe things from nearly any visible range comes in ridiculously handy, and none of the magic classes can truly replicate that.

    On the other hand, sorcerer is pretty fun at high levels too. Especially when you can either plant a big spell in the middle of a whole bunch of monsters, or right on top of one of the big critters.
    But I usually need to rely on a fighter/warrior pawn to keep things off me for a great deal of the game that way... and they can be less than useful at that role.

    I need to get my UR dragon farm on no matter which way I go, so I've still got some work to do to get there.

    Im pretty sure sorcerers can kill things from the farthest away. Tornadoes are cool like that

  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    It's not always about killing things though. Doing the witchwood stuff without being able to aim attacks is a pain in the ass.

  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    It's not always about killing things though. Doing the witchwood stuff without being able to aim attacks is a pain in the ass.

    Golems are the worst yes. The only enemy explicitly designed to interfere with sorcerers ability to murder everything. Indeed the only enemy designed as a hard counter to any specific class. The sorcerer is just too strong

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Am I doing it wrong not taking an advanced vocation? Sticking with Mage so far.

    "For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men. Not women. Not beasts...this you can trust."
  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    Dude. Swap all you want.

    Did you play the whole game as a mage?

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Am I doing it wrong not taking an advanced vocation? Sticking with Mage so far.

    Different stat progressions mainly. The base 3 have more balanced progressions though. Definitely try some of the others out though. They all feel fun

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Am I doing it wrong not taking an advanced vocation? Sticking with Mage so far.

    The Advanced vocations are really useful for unlocking the more powerful Augments (e.g. Mage lets you unlock one that gives +10% Magick Attack, Sorcerer gives one for +20%). But really, play what you want, and swap as often as you want. I did Strider for awhile, then assassin for a bit, then Sorcerer for awhile, and spent the rest of my time (all of end/post game) as a Magick Archer.

  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Am I doing it wrong not taking an advanced vocation? Sticking with Mage so far.

    I think you probably want to at least dip into one of them for the stat boosts and the passive skills.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    mage is pretty much garbo in all respects

    roll sorcerer at the bare minimum

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Well, shit. Maybe this is why I can't scratch some of these things in Bitterblack. That or I'm too low, only 50.

    Back to Everfall!

    "For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men. Not women. Not beasts...this you can trust."
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    it's a little of column A, column B

    mages are a support class so unless you have a set of really rockin' pawns you're kneecapping your team's efficacy

    sorcerer has all the dick-swinging spells

  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    As busted as sorcerers are, the magic in this game is really spectacular, in every sense of the word.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Am I doing it wrong not taking an advanced vocation? Sticking with Mage so far.

    The other base classes fare better than mage since you aren't relying on your pawns to do the bulk of the damage.

    Strider is still more proficient at climbing on and stabbing big monsters than assassin or magic archer. Fighter is tankier than Warrior who has to ditch shields and all one handed weapons in favor of the super slow two handers.

    Mage is still a handy class to have due to all its support but it's better on a pawn than the player.

    Big Dookie wrote: »
    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Well shit.
    I ran into the big beholder in Bitterblack. Couldn't dent him. Took this as a sign to leave, as above, back to Everfall.

    I switched to Sorcerer since I was out.

    Go to Everfall. Find a smaller beholder. Can't dent it either.

    I may have messed up leveling to 50 as a Mage...

    "For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men. Not women. Not beasts...this you can trust."
  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Well shit.
    I ran into the big beholder in Bitterblack. Couldn't dent him. Took this as a sign to leave, as above, back to Everfall.

    I switched to Sorcerer since I was out.

    Go to Everfall. Find a smaller beholder. Can't dent it either.

    I may have messed up leveling to 50 as a Mage...

    Those enemies are fought differently than normal
    BBI eye gazer is kill the stalks until the eye pops out and nuke it. Eventually it'll try a magic symbol lile attack. Kill the stalls powering it and shoot the energy ball to do hideous damage.

    3cl1ps3
  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    The beholder in the everfall also has a barrier spell up. It drops sometimes and it has to recast it. I just grabbed onto its face and mauled it at that point. Up until then, just plinked it with shots to see if it took damage, killed the stalks coming out of the ground, and avoided its spells.

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    If you're really stuck on BBI, try Magick Archer. It's somewhat OP in there.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Am I doing it wrong not taking an advanced vocation? Sticking with Mage so far.

    While it isn't as important as people used to say, Mage is one of the least good to stick with for levelling.
    Health and Stamina are the biggest obstacles, since you don't get much of them outside of levelling.

  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Well shit.
    I ran into the big beholder in Bitterblack. Couldn't dent him. Took this as a sign to leave, as above, back to Everfall.

    I switched to Sorcerer since I was out.

    Go to Everfall. Find a smaller beholder. Can't dent it either.

    I may have messed up leveling to 50 as a Mage...

    Try adding levels of the melee classes.

    Fighter for good phyiscal attack and HP; Strider for all around; Warrior for extra HP and attack; Assassin for lots of physical attack; or Ranger for lots of stamina.

    Gear is the most important thing but BBI will help you level up fast in any of those.

    Mystic Knight and Magic Archer are not so great for stat growth for you at the moment but you can try them. They are fun.

    Here is the stats for level 50 mage: https://stackoverflow.github.io/dragons-dogma-stat-planner/#am000028000000000000000000000000000000

    You need some Physical attack and defense.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Mystic Knight, Ranger and Warrior give you the most Stamina and Health.

    Attack are important stats before you start getting Bitterblack-loot.

  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    MK has low attack stats. Not that great at the moment.

    Xeddicus, in case you need extra damage the blonde merchant lady sells periapts. Those give you a boost your stats and stack up to 4 times.

    Conqueror - Physical Attack
    Demon - Magic Attack

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    The stat system is kind of weird though.

    -Different classes do give different level up bonuses. Fairly significant ones too.
    -It's only the first 100 levels that have the biggest impact though. 101-200 increases are very minor.
    -Level up stats don't terribly mean much in the end anyways. Like 75% of your total stats will be coming from your gear anyways. Bump that up to 90% when you get into the brokenness of Bitterblack items.

    I'm using this stat guide as I level for a fairly balanced build, but it honestly doesn't matter terribly much. You're not going to be gimped to hell if you leveled as a mage your entire life then suddenly change to a warrior. So long as you spend the money/effort into getting the gear for it.

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Unlocking Augments is the biggest part of the class system. Figure out which ones you really want and play those classes to get 'em.

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  • FeldornFeldorn Mediocre Registered User regular
    I would advise picking phys or mag.

    You can do a hybrid that makes it to ~500 raw atk/mag but it's probably better to just focus on one.

    The trick is that when you don't meet the threshold to damage enemies over their defense, you're doing no damage.

  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Xeddicus, the purification of gear is tied to the vocation you have. So if you are a mage you are gonna get robes, staffs and rings that improve spellcasting.

    Doing the board quest should hand you gear for the other classes but I don't recall any of those being weapons.

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    This was posted 3 weeks ago. Don't tease Itsuno!

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    I really don’t need to buy this game a third time but I still kinda want the PS4 version despite myself.

    I keep hoping maybe if I buy enough copies they’ll make a DD2 that’s not an mmo.

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    Put all the microtransactions on it! :P

    I did buy plenty of DLC for the original release.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I've bought it three times.

    Zilla360
  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    I've bought it three times.

    I think I'm on 6.

    ...I really like the game.

  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Thanks for all the info, everyone.

    I made progress, so there's that. I had no idea there were like 200 levels. At least this gives me time to switch classes.

    "For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men. Not women. Not beasts...this you can trust."
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