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[Industry Thread] My movie theater is better than yours sometimes but has more screens.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    That sounds pretty reasonable.

  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    bss wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    CyberFront has shut down. If you hadn't heard of them until today like me, they were a Japanese company that primarily concerned themselves with localizing and publishing western releases in Japan. Recent titles they had released include the Civilization series, Telltale's Walking Dead, Portal, Portal 2, Witcher 2, Diablo 3, Skullgirls, Doom 3, etc.

    Seems like they're leaving something of a vacuum in their place based on the breadth of titles they've released, and this is also just further proof that Skullgirls just cannot catch a fucking break.
    Are those titles just really unpopular in Japan? Because most of them were otherwise huge hits and I cannot imagine how you'd go belly up translating games like Portal.

    It's hard to say -- it's not that they were releasing titles on unpopular platforms, for example their Walking Dead localization was the PS3 version. Maybe someone who speaks some Japanese could read the official release, see if it shares any details.

    This Gamasutra article makes it sound like they were mismanaged to death after being bought out in March.

    if that's the case then hopefully those that actually made up CyberFront will be able to set up a new outfit and continue doing the same work they've been doing.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    What the hell is up with Popcap being Microsoft exclusive? I want to play that PvZ shooter, but you're crazy if you think I'm buying a One for that shit.

    Popcap got bought into MS exclusivity? On what terms?

  • CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    bss wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    CyberFront has shut down. If you hadn't heard of them until today like me, they were a Japanese company that primarily concerned themselves with localizing and publishing western releases in Japan. Recent titles they had released include the Civilization series, Telltale's Walking Dead, Portal, Portal 2, Witcher 2, Diablo 3, Skullgirls, Doom 3, etc.

    Seems like they're leaving something of a vacuum in their place based on the breadth of titles they've released, and this is also just further proof that Skullgirls just cannot catch a fucking break.
    Are those titles just really unpopular in Japan? Because most of them were otherwise huge hits and I cannot imagine how you'd go belly up translating games like Portal.

    It's hard to say -- it's not that they were releasing titles on unpopular platforms, for example their Walking Dead localization was the PS3 version. Maybe someone who speaks some Japanese could read the official release, see if it shares any details.

    This Gamasutra article makes it sound like they were mismanaged to death after being bought out in March.

    if that's the case then hopefully those that actually made up CyberFront will be able to set up a new outfit and continue doing the same work they've been doing.

    Also, from people I've spoken to in Japan, PC-based games are virutally unheard of aside from various H-games and dating sim games.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Caedwyr wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    bss wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    CyberFront has shut down. If you hadn't heard of them until today like me, they were a Japanese company that primarily concerned themselves with localizing and publishing western releases in Japan. Recent titles they had released include the Civilization series, Telltale's Walking Dead, Portal, Portal 2, Witcher 2, Diablo 3, Skullgirls, Doom 3, etc.

    Seems like they're leaving something of a vacuum in their place based on the breadth of titles they've released, and this is also just further proof that Skullgirls just cannot catch a fucking break.
    Are those titles just really unpopular in Japan? Because most of them were otherwise huge hits and I cannot imagine how you'd go belly up translating games like Portal.

    It's hard to say -- it's not that they were releasing titles on unpopular platforms, for example their Walking Dead localization was the PS3 version. Maybe someone who speaks some Japanese could read the official release, see if it shares any details.

    This Gamasutra article makes it sound like they were mismanaged to death after being bought out in March.

    if that's the case then hopefully those that actually made up CyberFront will be able to set up a new outfit and continue doing the same work they've been doing.

    Also, from people I've spoken to in Japan, PC-based games are virutally unheard of aside from various H-games and dating sim games.

    The H stands for hPorn right?

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    CyberFront has shut down. If you hadn't heard of them until today like me, they were a Japanese company that primarily concerned themselves with localizing and publishing western releases in Japan. Recent titles they had released include the Civilization series, Telltale's Walking Dead, Portal, Portal 2, Witcher 2, Diablo 3, Skullgirls, Doom 3, etc.

    Seems like they're leaving something of a vacuum in their place based on the breadth of titles they've released, and this is also just further proof that Skullgirls just cannot catch a fucking break.
    Are those titles just really unpopular in Japan? Because most of them were otherwise huge hits and I cannot imagine how you'd go belly up translating games like Portal.

    Depends on the from language. I suspect a lot of Japanese are ok with playing game in English.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    You would be amazed at how many people from non-English-speaking countries speak nearly perfect English. The younger the demographic, the greater proportion of them that speak it, particularly in continental Europe. It's only we native English speakers who tend to be lazy.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    What the hell is up with Popcap being Microsoft exclusive? I want to play that PvZ shooter, but you're crazy if you think I'm buying a One for that shit.

    Popcap got bought into MS exclusivity? On what terms?

    Terms didn't ever get officially announced (that I'm aware of), but Peggle 2 and PvZ: Garden Warfare both have timed exclusivity on Xbox One

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    2/3 of Sony's plan for saving the Vita was "you can use remote play on it", so yeah. That's pretty much it.

    Kinda sad for people who actually want to play Vita games on it.

    Do you mean dedicated Vita games or something?

    Because while the exclusive scene on Vita is pretty damn bad, the amount of downloadable PS3/PS4/Vita cross-buy games more than makes up for it

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    2/3 of Sony's plan for saving the Vita was "you can use remote play on it", so yeah. That's pretty much it.

    Kinda sad for people who actually want to play Vita games on it.

    Do you mean dedicated Vita games or something?

    Because while the exclusive scene on Vita is pretty damn bad, the amount of downloadable PS3/PS4/Vita cross-buy games more than makes up for it

    Yeah, meant games made specifically for the Vita.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    It's possible that the upswing of sales might help Sony convince a few developers to make some more games on it on another "testing the waters" sort of deal (if we treat Post-PS4 as a Second Launch). More software might spur more sales and it might, you know, reverse the Doom Cycle.

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  • bssbss Brostoyevsky Madison, WIRegistered User regular
    Yeah I'm still not seeing the argument that any attempt to get Vitas in people's hands somehow hurts or is at the expense of owners (new or old) who want to play Vita games. It's not like my shit's igniting and becoming unusable because someone bought one for Remote Play.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    It's also impossible for it to hurt the Vita's game library in the future. It will either help (by increasing market share) or have no effect (because of the remote play)

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  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    What the hell is up with Popcap being Microsoft exclusive? I want to play that PvZ shooter, but you're crazy if you think I'm buying a One for that shit.

    Popcap got bought into MS exclusivity? On what terms?

    Terms didn't ever get officially announced (that I'm aware of), but Peggle 2 and PvZ: Garden Warfare both have timed exclusivity on Xbox One

    PapCap answered that question in a FAQ. Basically said they had a good working relationship with Microsoft and were familiar with putting things on Microsoft platforms.. and then Microsoft made them an offer. Some people are worried that it'll turn from timed exclusivity to full exclusivity because that's what happened with Titanfall, but PopCap has also said it's already working on other versions of Garden Warfare, and I'm not sure I really see EA wanting to put all it's eggs in Microsoft's basket with the way console sales are going right now.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Yeah, I'd guess it's probably similar to how PopCap games lead on iOS for mobile, then end up making their way around later.

    Wraith260
  • Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    edited December 2013
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Damn shame Tearaway was such a bomb.
    Why makes you say it's a bomb?
    Cade wrote: »
    Know what sells Vita's? The PS4!
    [...]
    "PS Vita sales wise we are continuing to see strong week-on-week growth since our latest campaign kicked in," said senior product manager Ben Law. "The new TV advert went live this week and we've already seen amazing feedback from PS4 owners on the Remote Play feature, and the success of Tearaway highlights what [a] great proposition PS Vita is, either as a standalone device or as the perfect companion to PS4."
    [...]
    Not that I'd expect Sony to announce that it's doing poorly, or anything.
    Or maybe "success" is Sony lingo for "Great Value/Quality".

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    The NPDs for Tearaway were shit

    But who knows how well it did digitally

    It's a mystery to everyone

  • ShatterShockShatterShock Registered User regular
    I guess the PSVita having a future as a dump for mobile and indie hand-me-downs and a second screen for the PS4 is better than having no future at all. I'm loving mine so far, but it's depressing to know that few games will fully take advantage of the Vita's hardware.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    I would be sad about it

    But I think about game's that take advantage of the graphical abilities the Vita offers - games like Uncharted and Batman and Gravity Rush

    Then I think about games like Guacamelee and Spelunky and Fez and VVVVVV and how they're totally better and I'm not sad anymore

    bss
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    PS+ for the Vita may mean that there are lots of free games for it, but I bet Sony's making bank on those larger memory cards due to increased digital purchases.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    I dunno about the Vita not having any upcoming games, after having a quick look at what's coming out, there's a fair few titles I'll be buying and there's still a fair few I want to play that I haven't picked up yet.

    I've also just reminded myself that Oddworld: New 'n Tasty is coming out, this makes me happy.

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  • DulonDulon Registered User regular
    I think the Vita's game problem isn't even a case of quantity or quality, but that most of them don't have mainstream appeal. It seems these niche games keep coming, so the software sales numbers have to be good enough for these developers.

    But neither the hard- nor software sales attract big budget developers. With the lack of that type of game and according lack of software marketing pushes, it's easy to see why the public perception of "Vita has no games" is still there. You actually have to look for the games and once you find them it can very well be that they are good, but you don't belong to the small subset of people they cater to.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    What amazes me is that people were still buying cassettes in 2010.

    That's just fantastic.

    Hipsters.

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  • bssbss Brostoyevsky Madison, WIRegistered User regular
    And, again, important to point out that the platform is going to close out 2013 being #2 in sales in Japan, whatever that's worth. The system does well in its niches. People say it has no games, I see four JRPGs/VNs coming to the west by end of April, to add to the couple that have come out recently. Add on indies and the occasional Tearaway of the month and yeah, right now the Vita is catering more to me than PS3 or PS4 look to in all of 2014.

    It is reminiscent of PSP in the west, to me. It'll never topple a console with Pokemon, but it does decent for a certain flavor of non-AAA gamer. Surely Sony would want broad appeal, but handhelds are weird to us westerners. I love 'em though.

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    darleysam wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    What amazes me is that people were still buying cassettes in 2010.

    That's just fantastic.

    Hipsters.

    That's vinyl.

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  • Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    Zython wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    What amazes me is that people were still buying cassettes in 2010.

    That's just fantastic.

    Hipsters.

    That's vinyl.
    Zython wrote: »
    darleysam wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    What amazes me is that people were still buying cassettes in 2010.

    That's just fantastic.

    Hipsters.

    That's vinyl.

    Ultra-hipsters.

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    reverse hipsters

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  • jeffinvajeffinva Koogler coming this summerRegistered User regular
    I have a hard time convincing people just how great a piece of hardware the Vita is. In my experience a lot of people don't think it's much better than a PSP and have the impression it's built kind of cheaply like many other handhelds were in the past. Once a person gets it in their hands and sees just how solid and well performing a device it is that usually changes.

    Next is the memory issue. That shit is expensive and a major deterrent for many.

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  • KryhsKryhs Registered User regular
    I got a Vita during Amazon's black Friday sale because I wanted one with the OLED screen and the price was good enough. My only complaint is that holding the system the exact right way is really, really not comfortable. I want to sprawl my fingers out across the back, but the silly (extremely unnecessary gimmick addon...) touchpad ruins that. The shoulder buttons are also really gummy and wobbly, though they work just fine.

    As someone who has had PS+ for a while, though, I had so many free games waiting for me, and overall I'm loving the system so far. Remote play is just amazing.

  • oldmankenoldmanken Registered User regular
    I'm not ready to jump on the next gen bandwagon just yet (other than the Wii U I just bought), so I'm wondering what the likelihood of a PS4/Vita bundle would be some time next year.

    Both systems are really appealing, but moreso in how they interact with on another.

  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    jeffinva wrote: »
    I have a hard time convincing people just how great a piece of hardware the Vita is. In my experience a lot of people don't think it's much better than a PSP and have the impression it's built kind of cheaply like many other handhelds were in the past. Once a person gets it in their hands and sees just how solid and well performing a device it is that usually changes.

    Next is the memory issue. That shit is expensive and a major deterrent for many.

    Personally, I think the 3DSXL feels like it's built cheaper than the Vita.

    Why no, I'm not still bitter about how I had to have the screen fixed in the 3DS after it fell a couple of inches onto carpet at a cost almost as much as a new machine, while I've dropped my Vita multiple times over a year-and-a-half from waist height and nothing bad's happened to it.

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  • jeffinvajeffinva Koogler coming this summerRegistered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    jeffinva wrote: »
    I have a hard time convincing people just how great a piece of hardware the Vita is. In my experience a lot of people don't think it's much better than a PSP and have the impression it's built kind of cheaply like many other handhelds were in the past. Once a person gets it in their hands and sees just how solid and well performing a device it is that usually changes.

    Next is the memory issue. That shit is expensive and a major deterrent for many.

    Personally, I think the 3DSXL feels like it's built cheaper than the Vita.

    Why no, I'm not still bitter about how I had to have the screen fixed in the 3DS after it fell a couple of inches onto carpet at a cost almost as much as a new machine, while I've dropped my Vita multiple times over a year-and-a-half from waist height and nothing bad's happened to it.

    I have a 3DS and it's definitely not as well built. I wouldn't say it's flimsy, but I am careful with it. I feel like I could beat someone to death with my Vita and it would be fine.

  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    I'd love to have a Vita, but for financial and essentially free time reasons I can't fit it into my life. :(

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Damn shame Tearaway was such a bomb.
    Why makes you say it's a bomb?

    NPD leaks indicate it sold less than 14,000 copies.

    Granted, that doesn't include digital, but even assuming digital sales doubled that figure (which is still a pretty optimistic assumption for retail releases at this point) that just brings us to 28,000 copies, which is still awful.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    That's a shame hearing about the 3DS quality. Historically Nintendo handhelds have been "last til the apocalypse" kind of machines. I think I could kill somebody with my DS Phat, or my DS Lite, if I threw it hard enough.

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  • bssbss Brostoyevsky Madison, WIRegistered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    That's a shame hearing about the 3DS quality. Historically Nintendo handhelds have been "last til the apocalypse" kind of machines. I think I could kill somebody with my DS Phat, or my DS Lite, if I threw it hard enough.

    The DS Lite is one of my overall favorite consoles and yeah, the 3DS XL build quality is a definite step backwards. Long gone are the stories from Nintendo Power with Game Boys surviving immolation in combat zones.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    2DS looks like a pretty dang sturdy chunk. Made for kids, that sort of thing.

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  • FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    Dulon wrote: »
    I think the Vita's game problem isn't even a case of quantity or quality, but that most of them don't have mainstream appeal. It seems these niche games keep coming, so the software sales numbers have to be good enough for these developers.

    You just nailed why I want a Vita. It's not that I shun mainstream games; I'm all for them. It's that right now in my life, I have more fun with games that aren't made by a staff of 300 people, across various continents, that turn out to be very pretty -- and very empty -- experiences. I want a game that does what it does well, not one that does what it does pretty-well-but-kinda-blah-while-making-my-eyes-orgasm.

    I think Sony needs to really push the indie games on the Vita as a selling point. I see the indie games aspect of the PS4 as a nice thing to have, but certainly not a reason to buy a $399 console. A $199 handheld that I can take with me to play those same games on? Hell yes. THEN I'll buy a PS4 to get the home experience of mainstream games. Oh, and I can play those games on my Vita now, too, with Remote Play? Sony, you've pulled me in. I think it's going to help them in the long run.

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  • Cameron_TalleyCameron_Talley Registered User regular
    The 2DS, which returns the "brick" form-factor, seems pretty solid so far. I can't imagine it breaking from a few tumbles to the ground. Maybe not combat-ready, but still pretty sturdy. My DS lite has a cracked hinge and I worry about breaking that every time I open the thing.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Yeah...my DS lite and GBA work flawlessly. I don't see how my 3DS would last more than 10 years.

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