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I was in an inhouse not long after Timbersaw came out. Think it was a single draft. I got Timbersaw, first time I'd played him or a magic heavy hero too. Played badly and instead of general tips, advice or guidance as to where to be and when I just got bitched at by a moany bastard. Kind of soured me on that whole 'friendly' inhouse idea.
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I was in an inhouse not long after Timbersaw came out. Think it was a single draft. I got Timbersaw, first time I'd played him or a magic heavy hero too. Played badly and instead of general tips, advice or guidance as to where to be and when I just got bitched at by a moany bastard. Kind of soured me on that whole 'friendly' inhouse idea.
While I've seen this happen once or twice, generally I've had way more good experiences than not playing with PA people. I wouldn't take one time being bitched at by a moan'y bastard as the general rule for how it goes.
Also, I almost always post in the PA chat to try and start a general game. The only times I haven't asked in chat is if I've already got a 5-lock or I see most people in chat are already in games.
Sometimes I hate the abandon system since it screws me if my internet is acting up. I get in, fine disconnect reconnect. Play 40 minutes fine. Internet fucks up again. I spend 5 minutes trying to reconnect, even get in and instantly disconnect twice. I get an abandon even though I was trying to frantically reconnect my internet.
Sometimes I hate the abandon system since it screws me if my internet is acting up. I get in, fine disconnect reconnect. Play 40 minutes fine. Internet fucks up again. I spend 5 minutes trying to reconnect, even get in and instantly disconnect twice. I get an abandon even though I was trying to frantically reconnect my internet.
The important thing to think about with the abandons is that its not necessarily a punishment, it's stating that for whatever reason you cant be trusted to contribute a good gaming experience, so sort it out. If you're internet is cutting out constantly that is extremely annoying for your team mates and everyone else playing, so maybe you need to be in low-pri until that's sorted out.
Sometimes I hate the abandon system since it screws me if my internet is acting up. I get in, fine disconnect reconnect. Play 40 minutes fine. Internet fucks up again. I spend 5 minutes trying to reconnect, even get in and instantly disconnect twice. I get an abandon even though I was trying to frantically reconnect my internet.
The important thing to think about with the abandons is that its not necessarily a punishment, it's stating that for whatever reason you cant be trusted to contribute a good gaming experience, so sort it out. If you're internet is cutting out constantly that is extremely annoying for your team mates and everyone else playing, so maybe you need to be in low-pri until that's sorted out.
Played 2 games with my internet tonight which is fine.
It is one of those it can fuck you if you get say a power outage or a bad luck with something happening. Had the cable get cut once during a game that sucked. Which is my only other abandon.
I mean I don't have many I have 2 abandons and tried to get back into both asap. Trust me I am raging probably as much or more than my teammates if my internet fucks up while I am playing.
Is there one place you guys meet for DOTA2? I've always wanted to get good at this game but I'm finding it difficult without friends; nobody in my games ever use wards.
Is there one place you guys meet for DOTA2? I've always wanted to get good at this game but I'm finding it difficult without friends; nobody in my games ever use wards.
Be the man! Play support! Place wards!
Well that is what I do most of the time.
But there is a pa channel and guild. Plus you can always post here times and such when you play.
Is there one place you guys meet for DOTA2? I've always wanted to get good at this game but I'm finding it difficult without friends; nobody in my games ever use wards.
Be the man! Play support! Place wards!
Well that is what I do most of the time.
But there is a pa channel and guild. Plus you can always post here times and such when you play.
I've done it every game for hundreds of games and I'm tired of it. In general, one player should not be the only person warding. Anyone who has the spare gold should, anyone who needs to know.
Is there one place you guys meet for DOTA2? I've always wanted to get good at this game but I'm finding it difficult without friends; nobody in my games ever use wards.
Be the man! Play support! Place wards!
Well that is what I do most of the time.
But there is a pa channel and guild. Plus you can always post here times and such when you play.
I've done it every game for hundreds of games and I'm tired of it. In general, one player should not be the only person warding. Anyone who has the spare gold should, anyone who needs to know.
Ehh, really it should be split between the supports if they can. I am at this point where I stopped trusting pubs to even buy a walking courier as a support let alone wards.
Though even when I play characters like Bounty Hunter or Natures Prophet or Lycan I grab wards because the vision will save my life and help me set up ganks.
Sometimes I hate the abandon system since it screws me if my internet is acting up. I get in, fine disconnect reconnect. Play 40 minutes fine. Internet fucks up again. I spend 5 minutes trying to reconnect, even get in and instantly disconnect twice. I get an abandon even though I was trying to frantically reconnect my internet.
The important thing to think about with the abandons is that its not necessarily a punishment, it's stating that for whatever reason you cant be trusted to contribute a good gaming experience, so sort it out. If you're internet is cutting out constantly that is extremely annoying for your team mates and everyone else playing, so maybe you need to be in low-pri until that's sorted out.
Played 2 games with my internet tonight which is fine.
It is one of those it can fuck you if you get say a power outage or a bad luck with something happening. Had the cable get cut once during a game that sucked. Which is my only other abandon.
I mean I don't have many I have 2 abandons and tried to get back into both asap. Trust me I am raging probably as much or more than my teammates if my internet fucks up while I am playing.
Yeah, that's basically what I mean, not trying to have a go at you. It takes a few abandons for you to get into Low Pri anyway.
In other news I am starting to get better with stuff like dust of appearance and buying it. In one game today it netted me more than a single gyro kill with his damn shadowblade. I need to remember to buy it more. Also first space cow game in a while.
Win or lose, inhouses are useful for practising mechanics against other players without having to worry about how the game turns out. If you want to become better then improving your mechanics is a great way to do that.
So far I have 12 wins in my A-Z run, next up is Broodmother. I'm actually tracking my record and kills, etc for each hero which should turn out interesting. So far my best hero was Bloodseeker where I went 19-7-16 in one game. Worst hero so far was Alchemist, 3-14-15 over 2 games.
Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...
Game earlier tonight, we're all down, the enemy team has 4 up and is mostly dead and is pushing mid. The last couple guys to come up go in on their own and get murdered. Our Storm Spirit is frustrated with us, "guys, don't go in one at a time, you'll just get killed."
"But our rax! they're going to take it!"
"Ugh.... NEVER DO THIS."
Storm Spirit revives, proceeds to zap into the middle of all four of them and kill them instantly by himself, and we push to win.
Is there one place you guys meet for DOTA2? I've always wanted to get good at this game but I'm finding it difficult without friends; nobody in my games ever use wards.
Be the man! Play support! Place wards!
Well that is what I do most of the time.
But there is a pa channel and guild. Plus you can always post here times and such when you play.
Oh hey I didn't realise there's a guild. Would it be possible to get an invite off someone? My steam name is 'GJM101'
Also if anyone wants to play on EU West shoot me a friend request.
Chaos Knight is taking me a few games, 0-2 so far with pretty terrible scores. I don't understand how people do so well with him, he's weak early and can't farm very well, and without a good string of crits he can't do much against heroes that can escape.
Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...
Chaos Knight is taking me a few games, 0-2 so far with pretty terrible scores. I don't understand how people do so well with him, he's weak early and can't farm very well, and without a good string of crits he can't do much against heroes that can escape.
I genuinely don't understand this statement. He's incredibly strong early game.
You typically level Bolt/Rift until 8 before even touching your ult or crit and he plays as an aggressive ganker, not a carry, early on. Get in peoples' faces, never stop, and transition to farming after that early aggression phase sort of ends.
Chaos Knight is taking me a few games, 0-2 so far with pretty terrible scores. I don't understand how people do so well with him, he's weak early and can't farm very well, and without a good string of crits he can't do much against heroes that can escape.
I genuinely don't understand this statement. He's incredibly strong early game.
You typically level Bolt/Rift until 8 before even touching your ult or crit and he plays as an aggressive ganker, not a carry, early on. Get in peoples' faces, never stop, and transition to farming after that early aggression phase sort of ends.
Maybe it's because over 3 games now I've always been up against Storm Spirit in lane and I have to dive for any kills. I'm getting 2-3 kills by the 10-15 minute mark but then I just get torn to shreds by anyone. The crazy high mana costs don't help either. My team in general has been pretty shitty these 3 games as well, the last one just had an Alchemist that had Midas and treads by the 30 minute mark and that was it, level 9 and fed to 0-10 by that point.
Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...
All Pick is a broken game-mode that needs to be fixed. It should force random at the timer hitting 0. Currently the way it becomes a backwards game of chicken to see who can show up late and pick last to choose a hard counter blows. I can't play AP because of it. I've watched both teams go almost a minute into the game without picking on rare occasions, it's ridiculous in a game of hard counters.
All Pick is a broken game-mode that needs to be fixed. It should force random at the timer hitting 0. Currently the way it becomes a backwards game of chicken to see who can show up late and pick last to choose a hard counter blows. I can't play AP because of it. I've watched both teams go almost a minute into the game without picking on rare occasions, it's ridiculous in a game of hard counters.
I only play all pick if either others want to or I really want to focus on a character.
I live in a land of Random Draft, Captains Draft, and Limited Draft.
I would do captains mode but rather do that with a 5 stack.
I really wish more people in ranked would queue for Captains Draft. All Pick is shit and CM is not the best unless you have a five stack, so I'm stuck waiting 8+ minutes for a CD game.
I really wish more people in ranked would queue for Captains Draft. All Pick is shit and CM is not the best unless you have a five stack, so I'm stuck waiting 8+ minutes for a CD game.
All pick should of never been put in ranked.
It was a terrible idea. Ranked should be CM/Captains Draft.
An All Draft mode would be good, just the same format as random draft but with the whole hero pool. You would still get people doing counter picks, but at least people wouldn't wait forever to pick.
Chaos Knight isn't really a hard carry. Hard carries are people like Spectre and Faceless Void who are actually just useless until they have a certain level of items or a massive level advantage over their targets. Void's a bit of an exception due to his ultimate having such teamfight potential.
That being said I feel like Chaos Knight is sort of weak early-to-mid game these days. Obviously it all depends on compositions of the teams but there's a good reason you never saw Chaos Knight without Wisp in professional games. Without the right support he's just underwhelming. He is not like other carries where he can just like go off and farm and get strong. Your lane has to be easy enough to get a Midas or your composition has to allow you to get early kills so that you can stay viable/powerful. Otherwise it tends to be an uphill battle with him.
The nerf that hit his Chaos Bolt to seesaw stun-time and damage also really hurt him. Granted I've only played one game as him since such a change but the difference was quite noticeable.
I'm thinking about putting some time into the Treant Protector. I like his skill selection quite a bit, and I especially think that Living Armor has a lot of potential. With relatively little in the way of mana regen, I should be able to cast it every time its off cooldown to support myself or other lanes. The fact that you can use it to repair towers is just icing on the cake. Toss in some great teamfight potential, and I think he's a really solid character. I'm thinking of stacking auras on him, like Vlad's, Mek, Pipe, Assault Cuirass, etc. He's extremely durable, with excellent strength gain, and can drop into invis if he needs to, so he can play a really supportive role in fights.
Seems like, anyway. I can't wait to start doing some games with him.
Treant has been very popular and shifting around. He is very hard support. His damage output is pathetic and he rewards good situational awareness and allies who can be very aggressive: and thus take advantage of his global buff to secure kills. His ultimate is on the weaker side of initiation but can turn a fight if timed well.
A friend of mine, before he quit, used to play Treant in probably 75% of his games. I will say that because he is such a hard support you should be careful what team you pick him into. He works well with teams that have multiple "cores" which are characters who scale well and will be given above average resources with your laning setup. He can be also played offlane solo but that can be a little tricky if you're not used to the role!
Chaos Knight isn't really a hard carry. Hard carries are people like Spectre and Faceless Void who are actually just useless until they have a certain level of items or a massive level advantage over their targets. Void's a bit of an exception due to his ultimate having such teamfight potential.
That being said I feel like Chaos Knight is sort of weak early-to-mid game these days. Obviously it all depends on compositions of the teams but there's a good reason you never saw Chaos Knight without Wisp in professional games. Without the right support he's just underwhelming. He is not like other carries where he can just like go off and farm and get strong. Your lane has to be easy enough to get a Midas or your composition has to allow you to get early kills so that you can stay viable/powerful. Otherwise it tends to be an uphill battle with him.
The nerf that hit his Chaos Bolt to seesaw stun-time and damage also really hurt him. Granted I've only played one game as him since such a change but the difference was quite noticeable.
He farms well early on, so he's at least got that. But his mana costs are through the roof, to the point that you'll get one combo in the early lane and you better hope you get a kill with it. In my opinion he carries pretty hard and doesn't need a whole of items to do it. He's kind of turning into my go to carry these days, I just love playing him.
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CK is pretty firmly in semi-carry territory, along with Viper and Mirana.
CK is basically on my "only lane him in a kill lane" carries. I suppose that makes him a semicarry, but I just prefer to think in terms of how lane works.
You've got good base damage, a shitty mana pool, great initiate/chase, and no innate peel or damage reduction. You can either play to your strengths and lane with like Veno or CM (CM kinda fixes the mana, too) or try to shore up your weaknesses with a strong peel support. Since your strengths can be so strong (3 second stun + another interrupt and reposition), I don't see any reason to try to shore him up.
On the other hand, CK wrecks towers and even teamfights a lot more than other late heroes; a level 16 CK toggling armlet (or just having Satanic or something) and then ulting to smash a lane in can be close to as much push as a full team.
EDIT: Another way to look at CK is that you're nearly strictly better than SK in all DPSing ways (SK has a better level 1 stun), but you're less durable and offer less utility while being more dependent on ult being up. I dunno what that means, but it's interesting to think there's a guy with less utility than a one button hero.
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By semi-carry I really mean heroes that can carry in the mid game but will eventually lose to an equally farmed hard carry.
An equally farmed hard carry is a tricky situation for CK. You really can't say without looking at external factors, since it's a lot of "who has BKB up/who has ult up."
i.e. CK's gonna kill a PL late if he hits him with stun and rifts six CK's on him. But PL's gonna win if CK's ult is down or he hits him from invis and CK has no supports to dust.
As far as lategame in general goes, CK has a solid steroid and one of the biggest gamechanger ults on a carry if played correctly; only really Void and maybe Dusa have more potential to instantly fuck up the enemy team.
By semi-carry I really mean heroes that can carry in the mid game but will eventually lose to an equally farmed hard carry.
Maybe others find this rule of thumb useful: carries carry with gold, semi-carries carry with levels. I mean gold and exp gain often go together (esp for a solo winning their lane), but I think that's a helpful distinction.
Another way to put it: your carry is your scaling right clicker, your semi carry might right click hard, but primarily carries with abilities.
Ck is a carry. He wants an armlet, BKB, manta, heart etc. to be successful. If you can't clear his images they are terrifying late game. He scales way harder than viper or mirana (imo). And milski is right about his potential to fuck up the entire enemy team.
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While I've seen this happen once or twice, generally I've had way more good experiences than not playing with PA people. I wouldn't take one time being bitched at by a moan'y bastard as the general rule for how it goes.
Also, I almost always post in the PA chat to try and start a general game. The only times I haven't asked in chat is if I've already got a 5-lock or I see most people in chat are already in games.
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Played 2 games with my internet tonight which is fine.
It is one of those it can fuck you if you get say a power outage or a bad luck with something happening. Had the cable get cut once during a game that sucked. Which is my only other abandon.
I mean I don't have many I have 2 abandons and tried to get back into both asap. Trust me I am raging probably as much or more than my teammates if my internet fucks up while I am playing.
Be the man! Play support! Place wards!
Well that is what I do most of the time.
But there is a pa channel and guild. Plus you can always post here times and such when you play.
I've done it every game for hundreds of games and I'm tired of it. In general, one player should not be the only person warding. Anyone who has the spare gold should, anyone who needs to know.
Ehh, really it should be split between the supports if they can. I am at this point where I stopped trusting pubs to even buy a walking courier as a support let alone wards.
Though even when I play characters like Bounty Hunter or Natures Prophet or Lycan I grab wards because the vision will save my life and help me set up ganks.
Yeah, that's basically what I mean, not trying to have a go at you. It takes a few abandons for you to get into Low Pri anyway.
In other news I am starting to get better with stuff like dust of appearance and buying it. In one game today it netted me more than a single gyro kill with his damn shadowblade. I need to remember to buy it more. Also first space cow game in a while.
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"But our rax! they're going to take it!"
"Ugh.... NEVER DO THIS."
Storm Spirit revives, proceeds to zap into the middle of all four of them and kill them instantly by himself, and we push to win.
Oh hey I didn't realise there's a guild. Would it be possible to get an invite off someone? My steam name is 'GJM101'
Also if anyone wants to play on EU West shoot me a friend request.
I genuinely don't understand this statement. He's incredibly strong early game.
You typically level Bolt/Rift until 8 before even touching your ult or crit and he plays as an aggressive ganker, not a carry, early on. Get in peoples' faces, never stop, and transition to farming after that early aggression phase sort of ends.
I was doing a list of characters I am feeling pretty comfortable with in my head and really there are 0 carries in there.
Like just a quick thought on my list:
I am good/helpful to my team/pretty decent at:
1.Ogre Magi
2.Kunkka
3.Jakiro
4.Lion
5.Shadow Demon
I am feeling pretty comfortable with:
1.Lycan
2.Natures Prophet
3. Spirit Breaker
4. Abbadon
5. Bounty Hunter
6. Bristleback
Characters I suck:
1.Bane
2.Phantom Lancer
3.Uhhh, a few others I have sworn off
I feel I need a hard carry there. CK seems fun.
Maybe it's because over 3 games now I've always been up against Storm Spirit in lane and I have to dive for any kills. I'm getting 2-3 kills by the 10-15 minute mark but then I just get torn to shreds by anyone. The crazy high mana costs don't help either. My team in general has been pretty shitty these 3 games as well, the last one just had an Alchemist that had Midas and treads by the 30 minute mark and that was it, level 9 and fed to 0-10 by that point.
I only play all pick if either others want to or I really want to focus on a character.
I live in a land of Random Draft, Captains Draft, and Limited Draft.
I would do captains mode but rather do that with a 5 stack.
All pick should of never been put in ranked.
It was a terrible idea. Ranked should be CM/Captains Draft.
I mean nobody sees a problem with that. Personally, i'll just wait for Captain's... There are probably 9 others out there who think AP is BS!
That being said I feel like Chaos Knight is sort of weak early-to-mid game these days. Obviously it all depends on compositions of the teams but there's a good reason you never saw Chaos Knight without Wisp in professional games. Without the right support he's just underwhelming. He is not like other carries where he can just like go off and farm and get strong. Your lane has to be easy enough to get a Midas or your composition has to allow you to get early kills so that you can stay viable/powerful. Otherwise it tends to be an uphill battle with him.
The nerf that hit his Chaos Bolt to seesaw stun-time and damage also really hurt him. Granted I've only played one game as him since such a change but the difference was quite noticeable.
Seems like, anyway. I can't wait to start doing some games with him.
A friend of mine, before he quit, used to play Treant in probably 75% of his games. I will say that because he is such a hard support you should be careful what team you pick him into. He works well with teams that have multiple "cores" which are characters who scale well and will be given above average resources with your laning setup. He can be also played offlane solo but that can be a little tricky if you're not used to the role!
He farms well early on, so he's at least got that. But his mana costs are through the roof, to the point that you'll get one combo in the early lane and you better hope you get a kill with it. In my opinion he carries pretty hard and doesn't need a whole of items to do it. He's kind of turning into my go to carry these days, I just love playing him.
You've got good base damage, a shitty mana pool, great initiate/chase, and no innate peel or damage reduction. You can either play to your strengths and lane with like Veno or CM (CM kinda fixes the mana, too) or try to shore up your weaknesses with a strong peel support. Since your strengths can be so strong (3 second stun + another interrupt and reposition), I don't see any reason to try to shore him up.
On the other hand, CK wrecks towers and even teamfights a lot more than other late heroes; a level 16 CK toggling armlet (or just having Satanic or something) and then ulting to smash a lane in can be close to as much push as a full team.
EDIT: Another way to look at CK is that you're nearly strictly better than SK in all DPSing ways (SK has a better level 1 stun), but you're less durable and offer less utility while being more dependent on ult being up. I dunno what that means, but it's interesting to think there's a guy with less utility than a one button hero.
i.e. CK's gonna kill a PL late if he hits him with stun and rifts six CK's on him. But PL's gonna win if CK's ult is down or he hits him from invis and CK has no supports to dust.
As far as lategame in general goes, CK has a solid steroid and one of the biggest gamechanger ults on a carry if played correctly; only really Void and maybe Dusa have more potential to instantly fuck up the enemy team.
Maybe others find this rule of thumb useful: carries carry with gold, semi-carries carry with levels. I mean gold and exp gain often go together (esp for a solo winning their lane), but I think that's a helpful distinction.
Another way to put it: your carry is your scaling right clicker, your semi carry might right click hard, but primarily carries with abilities.
Ck is a carry. He wants an armlet, BKB, manta, heart etc. to be successful. If you can't clear his images they are terrifying late game. He scales way harder than viper or mirana (imo). And milski is right about his potential to fuck up the entire enemy team.