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Baby Rosalina seems likely so that it would match the order of the first row. Then maybe Birdo.
For the bottom right I'm thinking Bowser jr. With Mii being a different option altogether that you pick before you even get to that screen.
I was also thinking that about the Mii as well. I do think at the very least Baby Rosalina is a given because it matches up the rest of the top row and then the last spot could be Baby Bowser.
Baby Rosalina, Baby Bowser, and then Bowser Jr. maybe, or Birdo, or Kamek, or a Boo, or Dry Bones, or whatever. Hell instead of Baby Bowser on the end of the baby row they could just do Baby Yoshi, which is just an egg.
Looks like Nintendo is skipping the E3 conference dance yet again this year.
Honestly I don't get it, they should be pushing this console as an alternative/secondary choice to the big 2 as hard as they can, ESPECIALLY while they have Microsoft sort of treading water and not selling as huge as they thought at a majorly high price point.
A Nintendo Direct does nothing to help that cause, because the only people watching those are people who own the thing already.
Well, they're not labeling it as a Direct, first of all. Besides, for anyone not at E3 (i.e. the vast majority of people) it doesn't make a difference whether there's an on-stage presentation or not - they're gonna watch it as a live stream either way. For those that do go to E3, it sounds like there's some pretty cool stuff to experience first-hand with the Treehouse stuff and Smash tournament, in addition to playing the new Smash at Best Buy.
We also don't have to suffer through any potential awkward performances on stage and Nintendo has the advantage of preparing and perfecting the event in advance.
Well, I can typically find the content of each Nintendo Direct posted up on just about any gaming news site almost immediately after its over. So it's not like the news coming out of a Direct doesn't go right to the same places an E3 presentation would go.
Granted an E3 presentation gives them an opportunity to make a big show of their upcoming releases and that's always more fun to watch than a Direct and if they're going to be there anyway for a Smash Brothers tournament, why not have a presentation just to grab as much attention as possible? Show off some new stuff with Bayonetta 2 and some fast paced footage of X. Those are their two best looking upcoming games that we know about, and I'd like to think they have something else they could announce by then for the Wii U that looked as good as X, Bayonetta, and Mario Kart 8.
Well, they're not labeling it as a Direct, first of all. Besides, for anyone not at E3 (i.e. the vast majority of people) it doesn't make a difference whether there's an on-stage presentation or not - they're gonna watch it as a live stream either way. For those that do go to E3, it sounds like there's some pretty cool stuff to experience first-hand with the Treehouse stuff and Smash tournament, in addition to playing the new Smash at Best Buy.
We also don't have to suffer through any potential awkward performances on stage and Nintendo has the advantage of preparing and perfecting the event in advance.
Do you know what the stage presentation gets them, though? Journalists. And not just gaming press, but those things bleed into the mainstream media, too. They need to bring their A game to the people that can sell the public on their games and hardware, but they're actively choosing to sidestep them.
The spectacle of it all can be pretty ridiculous, but it gets people's attention.
Echo chamber. Everyone live streams. No coverage. Focused event. Doomed. Not. Yes no yes no yes no
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Yea, it sucks mostly for journalists, because they thrive off being the ones to liveblog the events and perks that come along with attending them.
For us though, it shouldn't matter. We still get to watch a presentation and the websites will still put out the same articles about the announcements. Maybe the money they saved was worth not doing the whole live spectacle of an E3 conference.
Edit: Just looked at the official announcement, it's not as bad as you guys like to think, they'll have a pretty big presence at E3. They are holding a Smash Bros 4 tournament at the Nokia Theatre, they will have SSB4 demos at Best Buy, they are holding a digital Event (probably similar to the Direct last year), and they'll have Nintendo Treehouse on hand to have the game creators show off games, stream information, that sort of thing.
After my knee-jerk reaction... It's not too terrible. I still think the live presentation would be a much, much better deal but it's better than what they did last year I suppose.
Well, okay, yeah, on occasion. But Nintendo usually managed to place some fun spectacle into the event. Like the Zelda pit orchestra thing.
Sure, but there also all that wireless interference messing up the Skyward Sword presentation.
I dunno, I just don't really see the point of big, overblown presentations. They mostly offer very little insight into the actual games themselves and are often just a giant PR wankfest. If the majority of games are available to play on the showfloor, then everything's great.
The conferences are usually only open to the media anyway, right? They're gonna report on what Nintendo is showing either way, so for the average consumer it doesn't really make a difference.
REDMOND, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Over the last few years, Nintendo has repeatedly reinvented its approach to E3 by creating unique ways to break news and get fans at home involved in the fun, while also offering great experiences for on-site attendees. That mission continues in 2014 as Nintendo offers a series of new channels to communicate news directly to its key audiences, including fans, media, analysts, investors and business partners. This includes a new format for unveiling news: the Nintendo Digital Event; a Super Smash Bros. tournament; a full slate of live, in-depth game demos from the Nintendo booth; and an opportunity for fans to play Super Smash Bros. for Wii U for the first time at their local Best Buy.
"We demonstrated last year that we are never afraid to reinvent a proven tactic or to break completely new ground if we believe it will provide the best experience for our fans, followers and partners," said Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's president and chief operating officer. "So, whether you're attending E3 in person or joining online, there's an amazing lineup of games, experiences and events coming your way."
At E3 2014, Nintendo will offer four unique experiences, all under the unifying banner of "Play Nintendo."
Super Smash Bros. Invitational
2014 will see the arrival of not one, but two new Super Smash Bros. games: Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. To commemorate this occasion, Nintendo is inviting 16 highly skilled Super Smash Bros. players to the NOKIA Theatre L.A. LIVE in Los Angeles to compete in a Super Smash Bros. for Wii U tournament. Thousands of fans in the audience and countless more watching a live stream online will see new Super Smash Bros. characters clash with existing favorites in action for the first time. More important than declaring a winner, however, this event is a celebration of all things Super Smash Bros., and a great way for new and veteran fans to take part in a tribute to this legendary franchise. More information about the 16 invited participants in the tournament, the identity of the announcers, and how fans of the franchise can view the tournament in person and via webcast, will be communicated shortly.
Nintendo Digital Event
Every year, Nintendo looks for the best way to show its games and share its news with fans, media and other key audiences. In 2013, Nintendo decided to forgo a traditional press conference and use a video - in that case a Nintendo Direct - to share its news from E3. The company is building on that approach at E3 2014 with the "Nintendo Digital Event," a new kind of video program that will reveal and provide further detail about the gaming experiences on the way for Nintendo platforms in 2014 and beyond. The Nintendo Digital Event will air at 9 a.m. PT on Tuesday, June 10.
Nintendo Treehouse: Live @ E3
This year, Nintendo will offer fans a deeper look at Nintendo's biggest games of E3, with information directly from the source. The "Treehouse," the Product Development department at Nintendo of America, will provide in-depth game demos live and unscripted from Nintendo's booth. This new program will be live streamed during all hours of the E3 show. Fans can get settled in, open their browsers and experience the Nintendo games at E3 like never before.
Super Smash Bros. Smash Fest @ Best Buy
In 2013, Nintendo broke new ground by expanding its E3 activities outside of the walls of the Los Angeles Convention Center and letting fans play some of the games being played on the show floor at participating Best Buy stores. The partnership between Nintendo and Best Buy continues in 2014 and will mark the first time around the world that fans have had the opportunity to get their hands on Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.
More details about each event, including dates, times, locations and game content will be revealed shortly. To follow all of Nintendo's E3 activities, keep an eye on Nintendo's Facebook page, Twitter feed and YouTube channel. Or visit http://e3.nintendo.com.
I'm just excited there's an upcoming demo for the Wii U version of Smash Bros. in Best Buys. I didn't try to look for the E3 demos at Best Buy last year, but I'm definitely going to check that out if it comes to Best Buy in my town.
Yea, it sucks mostly for journalists, because they thrive off being the ones to liveblog the events and perks that come along with attending them.
For us though, it shouldn't matter. We still get to watch a presentation and the websites will still put out the same articles about the announcements. Maybe the money they saved was worth not doing the whole live spectacle of an E3 conference.
It doesn't change it for us, but we aren't the people for whom Nintendo need to step up their advertising. We check all the news outlets and get game info wherever it comes from.
The less dedicated masses probably don't know a thing about livestreamong Nintendo's digital event, an probably couldn't tell you what a Nintendo Direct is. They will probably only hear about E3 stuff from that journalist coverage, or catching some of the event on TV.
And Nintendo kind of needs some of those masses to buy more systems.
Well, they're not labeling it as a Direct, first of all. Besides, for anyone not at E3 (i.e. the vast majority of people) it doesn't make a difference whether there's an on-stage presentation or not - they're gonna watch it as a live stream either way. For those that do go to E3, it sounds like there's some pretty cool stuff to experience first-hand with the Treehouse stuff and Smash tournament, in addition to playing the new Smash at Best Buy.
We also don't have to suffer through any potential awkward performances on stage and Nintendo has the advantage of preparing and perfecting the event in advance.
Do you know what the stage presentation gets them, though? Journalists. And not just gaming press, but those things bleed into the mainstream media, too. They need to bring their A game to the people that can sell the public on their games and hardware, but they're actively choosing to sidestep them.
The spectacle of it all can be pretty ridiculous, but it gets people's attention.
If they announce something that the mainstream media would deem important enough to write about, they're gonna report it whether it's announced via a stage presentation, a livestream or Reggie handing out napkins with the words "NEW ZELDA" on them.
Which is, by the way, what they're gonna do. Announce a new Zelda.
It's also just such a half-ass measure. I mean go ahead, release another Direct of Iwata mumbling in broken English about all your fantastic upcoming games, that's great. I get that's the direction you're going. But why even release it during the blitzkrieg of E3 at all? Come out a week before or even earlier with this stuff and let that be the build up to the show floor experience that journalists can then follow up with and report on. If you're going to "skip" the E3 press conference, then go all in and fucking skip it already and do something really memorable or different.
Instead we'll get a 40 minute YouTube video (that will likely crash and burn like it did last year) first thing in the morning, and then it's forgotten 6-8 hours later when the other competitors drop bombshells all over the mainstream media.
It's also just such a half-ass measure. I mean go ahead, release another Direct of Iwata mumbling in broken English about all your fantastic upcoming games, that's great. I get that's the direction you're going. But why even release it during the blitzkrieg of E3 at all? Come out a week before or even earlier with this stuff and let that be the build up to the show floor experience that journalists can then follow up with and report on. If you're going to "skip" the E3 press conference, then go all in and fucking skip it already and do something really memorable or different.
Instead we'll get a 40 minute YouTube video (that will likely crash and burn like it did last year) first thing in the morning, and then it's forgotten 6-8 hours later when the other competitors drop bombshells all over the mainstream media.
Well it's better than last year where I believe it was like a 10 minute Direct and no demos of upcoming games.
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Yea, it sucks mostly for journalists, because they thrive off being the ones to liveblog the events and perks that come along with attending them.
For us though, it shouldn't matter. We still get to watch a presentation and the websites will still put out the same articles about the announcements. Maybe the money they saved was worth not doing the whole live spectacle of an E3 conference.
It doesn't change it for us, but we aren't the people for whom Nintendo need to step up their advertising. We check all the news outlets and get game info wherever it comes from.
The less dedicated masses probably don't know a thing about livestreamong Nintendo's digital event, an probably couldn't tell you what a Nintendo Direct is. They will probably only hear about E3 stuff from that journalist coverage, or catching some of the event on TV.
And Nintendo kind of needs some of those masses to buy more systems.
Then again, that specific audience you are talking about don't know what E3 is or that it's even a thing, they don't watch the conferences either. Every announcement Nintendo makes will be reported on by the various sites and Nintendo will go on Jimmy Fallon like they do every year and talk about their games. The conferences are there as big showy displays of fluff that don't matter in the end. Celebrities show up that don't play games, musical numbers that have nothing to do with the games being advertised, live demos that usually create more meme's and mockings than anything else, these are the things conferences give us.
Having a conference would be great for journalists who like to think they are special, but wouldn't do anything for the expanded audience.
It's also just such a half-ass measure. I mean go ahead, release another Direct of Iwata mumbling in broken English about all your fantastic upcoming games, that's great. I get that's the direction you're going. But why even release it during the blitzkrieg of E3 at all? Come out a week before or even earlier with this stuff and let that be the build up to the show floor experience that journalists can then follow up with and report on. If you're going to "skip" the E3 press conference, then go all in and fucking skip it already and do something really memorable or different.
Instead we'll get a 40 minute YouTube video (that will likely crash and burn like it did last year) first thing in the morning, and then it's forgotten 6-8 hours later when the other competitors drop bombshells all over the mainstream media.
Well it's better than last year where I believe it was like a 10 minute Direct and no demos of upcoming games.
Oh Honky, last year was about a 40 minute direct and they had an entire section of the floor to demo all of the games they announced at the direct.
Although @Allforce is right about the stream. It was terrible last year and I hope they improve the stream so I can actually watch it live this time.
Also, I think you are forgetting there were very few actual bombs dropped anywhere last year. Unless you loved the half hour long dog demo for CoD. Sony was the only company to do anything legitimately exciting last year.
It's also just such a half-ass measure. I mean go ahead, release another Direct of Iwata mumbling in broken English about all your fantastic upcoming games, that's great. I get that's the direction you're going. But why even release it during the blitzkrieg of E3 at all? Come out a week before or even earlier with this stuff and let that be the build up to the show floor experience that journalists can then follow up with and report on. If you're going to "skip" the E3 press conference, then go all in and fucking skip it already and do something really memorable or different.
Instead we'll get a 40 minute YouTube video (that will likely crash and burn like it did last year) first thing in the morning, and then it's forgotten 6-8 hours later when the other competitors drop bombshells all over the mainstream media.
Well it's better than last year where I believe it was like a 10 minute Direct and no demos of upcoming games.
Oh Honky, last year was about a 40 minute direct and they had an entire section of the floor to demo all of the games they announced at the direct.
Although @Allforce is right about the stream. It was terrible last year and I hope they improve the stream so I can actually watch it live this time.
Also, I think you are forgetting there were very few actual bombs dropped anywhere last year. Unless you loved the half hour long dog demo for CoD. Sony was the only company to do anything legitimately exciting last year.
And now that the new consoles are actually out, bombs will be dropping everywhere, not just in the Ukraine.
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Honestly I don't get it, they should be pushing this console as an alternative/secondary choice to the big 2 as hard as they can, ESPECIALLY while they have Microsoft sort of treading water and not selling as huge as they thought at a majorly high price point.
A Nintendo Direct does nothing to help that cause, because the only people watching those are people who own the thing already.
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We also don't have to suffer through any potential awkward performances on stage and Nintendo has the advantage of preparing and perfecting the event in advance.
Granted an E3 presentation gives them an opportunity to make a big show of their upcoming releases and that's always more fun to watch than a Direct and if they're going to be there anyway for a Smash Brothers tournament, why not have a presentation just to grab as much attention as possible? Show off some new stuff with Bayonetta 2 and some fast paced footage of X. Those are their two best looking upcoming games that we know about, and I'd like to think they have something else they could announce by then for the Wii U that looked as good as X, Bayonetta, and Mario Kart 8.
Well, okay, yeah, on occasion. But Nintendo usually managed to place some fun spectacle into the event. Like the Zelda pit orchestra thing.
Do you know what the stage presentation gets them, though? Journalists. And not just gaming press, but those things bleed into the mainstream media, too. They need to bring their A game to the people that can sell the public on their games and hardware, but they're actively choosing to sidestep them.
The spectacle of it all can be pretty ridiculous, but it gets people's attention.
There. I think I met our buzzword quota.
For us though, it shouldn't matter. We still get to watch a presentation and the websites will still put out the same articles about the announcements. Maybe the money they saved was worth not doing the whole live spectacle of an E3 conference.
Edit: Just looked at the official announcement, it's not as bad as you guys like to think, they'll have a pretty big presence at E3. They are holding a Smash Bros 4 tournament at the Nokia Theatre, they will have SSB4 demos at Best Buy, they are holding a digital Event (probably similar to the Direct last year), and they'll have Nintendo Treehouse on hand to have the game creators show off games, stream information, that sort of thing.
It's more of a presence than they had last year.
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Sure, but there also all that wireless interference messing up the Skyward Sword presentation.
I dunno, I just don't really see the point of big, overblown presentations. They mostly offer very little insight into the actual games themselves and are often just a giant PR wankfest. If the majority of games are available to play on the showfloor, then everything's great.
The conferences are usually only open to the media anyway, right? They're gonna report on what Nintendo is showing either way, so for the average consumer it doesn't really make a difference.
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Nintendo's E3 Website is also updated a bit for what's to come.
I'm just excited there's an upcoming demo for the Wii U version of Smash Bros. in Best Buys. I didn't try to look for the E3 demos at Best Buy last year, but I'm definitely going to check that out if it comes to Best Buy in my town.
There's a huge difference between the two.
It doesn't change it for us, but we aren't the people for whom Nintendo need to step up their advertising. We check all the news outlets and get game info wherever it comes from.
The less dedicated masses probably don't know a thing about livestreamong Nintendo's digital event, an probably couldn't tell you what a Nintendo Direct is. They will probably only hear about E3 stuff from that journalist coverage, or catching some of the event on TV.
And Nintendo kind of needs some of those masses to buy more systems.
Digital Event = bad.
Honestly they should fork over the money to do a large presentation.
If they announce something that the mainstream media would deem important enough to write about, they're gonna report it whether it's announced via a stage presentation, a livestream or Reggie handing out napkins with the words "NEW ZELDA" on them.
Which is, by the way, what they're gonna do. Announce a new Zelda.
Instead we'll get a 40 minute YouTube video (that will likely crash and burn like it did last year) first thing in the morning, and then it's forgotten 6-8 hours later when the other competitors drop bombshells all over the mainstream media.
Well it's better than last year where I believe it was like a 10 minute Direct and no demos of upcoming games.
Then again, that specific audience you are talking about don't know what E3 is or that it's even a thing, they don't watch the conferences either. Every announcement Nintendo makes will be reported on by the various sites and Nintendo will go on Jimmy Fallon like they do every year and talk about their games. The conferences are there as big showy displays of fluff that don't matter in the end. Celebrities show up that don't play games, musical numbers that have nothing to do with the games being advertised, live demos that usually create more meme's and mockings than anything else, these are the things conferences give us.
Having a conference would be great for journalists who like to think they are special, but wouldn't do anything for the expanded audience.
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Oh Honky, last year was about a 40 minute direct and they had an entire section of the floor to demo all of the games they announced at the direct.
Although @Allforce is right about the stream. It was terrible last year and I hope they improve the stream so I can actually watch it live this time.
Also, I think you are forgetting there were very few actual bombs dropped anywhere last year. Unless you loved the half hour long dog demo for CoD. Sony was the only company to do anything legitimately exciting last year.
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I swear to God if we don't see any Zelda or Metroid I'm going to lose my mind.
And now that the new consoles are actually out, bombs will be dropping everywhere, not just in the Ukraine.
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