so I have a question.
If my run was successful, can I decline to access any cards or do I have to?
Accessing is required for the run to be considered successful (unless you have a card effect that replaces accessing cards, e.g. Account Siphon, Security Testing). See the structure of a run thing in the manual and the FAQ.
not quite, it goes
-Last Chance to Jack out
-Successful run (successful run events fire)
-Access cards
So you get money from Gabe and all those sorts of successful run triggers before you access and a run is successful even if there are no cards in the server to access.
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Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
Wait, so if there's a remote that has Ash and a snare, and I know which is which, I can't run it, access and trash Ash, and not access the snare?
That's correct. When you access a server, you access everything in it (though in the order of your choice in regards to upgrades or cards in archives, R&D and HQ are in order of selection)
Damn, there are like twenty new cards in his feed from the new draft packs. Ice that gains strength when placed over certain central servers (or remote servers). Icebreakers that gain strength with every other installed icebreaker. A card that will let you remove cards in the corp archive from the game. A demolition run type card that lets you spend clicks to trash cards in HQ. A 0 cost card that forces the corp to derez a card (which could hurt Blue Sun a fair bit).
ArcticLancerBest served chilled.Registered Userregular
Guys, I'm really tired of how many spoilers we're seeing. Seriously, some of these cards are over 6 months away.
It's one thing to keep people interested. It's another entirely when it's unofficial channels leaking cards all over the place. And another to release them as a marketing move (sorry, but this is basically how I view draft packs, as it's an underwhelming and overpriced format). I'm just getting super worn down with how Western culture it seems, with the "ALWAYS WANT MORE! MORE! MORE! GIMMIE!" mentality I tend to see alongside it. Can we not just be happy with what we have for a while and get a little more every so often? Do we really need to be strapped to a sugar-loaded IV?
Crick is my new favourite card of all time. It's even thematic because he was kind of a dick and Jinteki is the dick faction.
I agree to some extent ArcticLancer, certain in regard to SanSan spoilers before Order and Chaos is out...though I would totally be on board with someone spoiling whatever anti-FA is coming up to give us hope.
Damn, there are like twenty new cards in his feed from the new draft packs. Ice that gains strength when placed over certain central servers (or remote servers). Icebreakers that gain strength with every other installed icebreaker. A card that will let you remove cards in the corp archive from the game. A demolition run type card that lets you spend clicks to trash cards in HQ. A 0 cost card that forces the corp to derez a card (which could hurt Blue Sun a fair bit).
I was wondering when we'd see a Archives Interface, that's going to be handy.
Also, wow, Sage.
EDIT: I may be doing a arm-flailing tube-man thing IRL to Checkpoint, Patch, and Firmware Upgrades. eeeeeee
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ArcticLancerBest served chilled.Registered Userregular
Checkpoint is wonderful. Strength 7 Code Gates? Yes please. Illicit ICE that's actually worth rezzing - woo. It's the one card I've seen that I'm really quite happy to know is in the pipe.
Checkpoint is wonderful. Strength 7 Code Gates? Yes please. Illicit ICE that's actually worth rezzing - woo. It's the one card I've seen that I'm really quite happy to know is in the pipe.
I just had a wonderful thought. Checkpoint + Dedicated Response Team + The Cleaners.
ALL THE MEATSHOT.
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That's correct. When you access a server, you access everything in it (though in the order of your choice in regards to upgrades or cards in archives, R&D and HQ are in order of selection)
Though it's also worth mentioning cards like Nerve Agent/Medium let you choose how many you want to access in step 4.5.
Endaro on
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
Guys, I'm really tired of how many spoilers we're seeing. Seriously, some of these cards are over 6 months away.
It's one thing to keep people interested. It's another entirely when it's unofficial channels leaking cards all over the place. And another to release them as a marketing move (sorry, but this is basically how I view draft packs, as it's an underwhelming and overpriced format). I'm just getting super worn down with how Western culture it seems, with the "ALWAYS WANT MORE! MORE! MORE! GIMMIE!" mentality I tend to see alongside it. Can we not just be happy with what we have for a while and get a little more every so often? Do we really need to be strapped to a sugar-loaded IV?
*sigh*
</rant>
word on the street is that it was FFG's marketing department's idea to put future cards in draft packs, and Lukas isn't pleased about it
hopefully this is the last time it happens, but who knows
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ArcticLancerBest served chilled.Registered Userregular
Checkpoint is wonderful. Strength 7 Code Gates? Yes please. Illicit ICE that's actually worth rezzing - woo. It's the one card I've seen that I'm really quite happy to know is in the pipe.
I just had a wonderful thought. Checkpoint + Dedicated Response Team + The Cleaners.
ALL THE MEATSHOT.
Why do you think I like it? When have I not been all over DRT? ;p
Guys, I'm really tired of how many spoilers we're seeing. Seriously, some of these cards are over 6 months away.
It's one thing to keep people interested. It's another entirely when it's unofficial channels leaking cards all over the place. And another to release them as a marketing move (sorry, but this is basically how I view draft packs, as it's an underwhelming and overpriced format). I'm just getting super worn down with how Western culture it seems, with the "ALWAYS WANT MORE! MORE! MORE! GIMMIE!" mentality I tend to see alongside it. Can we not just be happy with what we have for a while and get a little more every so often? Do we really need to be strapped to a sugar-loaded IV?
*sigh*
</rant>
word on the street is that it was FFG's marketing department's idea to put future cards in draft packs, and Lukas isn't pleased about it
hopefully this is the last time it happens, but who knows
Not surprising, but yeah, we'll see. Glad and sad to hear that I may be totally right about it as a marketing move. =_=
Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
nah, four clicks to gain 9 (or 10) isn't vastly better than four to gain 8, especially since then you're also missing out on her ability
and influence is already tight because of Lucky Find
I think it's playable in anarch but it's not great, after having used Duggar's for awhile I'd have to say that using all your clicks to do one thing is kinda shitty
I'm a little bit worried that the rotating schedule means that new deluxe expansions will be more safe and less exciting, since they'll be around forever.
Which is a silly fear, I guess. If deluxe expansion cards really start dragging the game down, they'll just rotate them too, probably.
To be honest I'm already approaching oversaturation with the current card pool. It's getting increasingly harder to build a deck without making my brain bleed.
First SanSan Cycle pack announcement. The new Jinteki identity introduces an entirely new mechanic, and a Jinteki agenda that NBN would murder its grandmother for.
Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
oh, dang
valley grid + edge of world is ugly as sin
new mechanic is cool but those abilities seem pretty weak
three clicks to do 2 net damage?
it's hard enough to set up a kill even when you can do a net damage with every agenda
that jinteki agenda is most useful in whitetree where you can use it to put another token on Nisei but that deck has a hard time finding room for 1-point agendas
new mechanic is cool but those abilities seem pretty weak
three clicks to do 2 net damage?
it's hard enough to set up a kill even when you can do a net damage with every agenda
that jinteki agenda is most useful in whitetree where you can use it to put another token on Nisei but that deck has a hard time finding room for 1-point agendas
I dunno, guaranteed two is more reliable than neurals and saves you deck space. I would at least consider running it in my tori hanzo chairman hiro deck
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FaranguI am a beardy manWith a beardy planRegistered Userregular
Offer is silly and fun and it will be in all of my decks.
Also, if I'm reading Biotech right, you can spend 3 clicks to flip the card and use it's ability once, right? If so, Brewery has vastly less utility than the other two. I like the ability to one turn a Nisei out when you need to, or a whole Archive cycle.
tzeentchlingDoctor of RocksOaklandRegistered Userregular
Those identities are fantastic. The two-damage one is kind of eh, but I could see it in a damage heavy deck. The possibility that someone could be playing that varient means that a runner literally cannot go below 2 cards without worrying they might die. Conceptually, I love this identity and will be playing the heck out of it.
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here's an interesting play suggested by a friend of mine, made possible by the fact that you get to see your opening hand and do a mulligan (if you like) before deciding which ID to use
say you're running three braintrusts and three mushin-no-shins in your deck
you happen to draw both plus, say, two pieces of ice and a hedge fund in your opening hand
so you take the four-advance ID, draw a card, play the hedge, and install an ice on turn one
then mushin and install on turn two
then activate your ability on turn three
and now every piece of ice you rez earns you two dollars
a combo that works because it doesn't require you to focus your whole deck around it (mushin does lots of things and braintrusts are playable just as a blank 3/2) because you can take the two damage ID if you don't draw the pieces
maybe you take the archives recycler when you're up against Noise or another runner who you expect to draw out the game
this ID basically lets you play an oldschool Jinteki deck (mixed shell game/flatline/score-to-win) with more consistency
Some fast advance hate spoilers from Snow-Jax that I mentioned were coming in the first pack:
Clot
Anarch - 1 Inf
Program - Virus
Cost 1, Mem 1
The corp cannot score agendas on the same turn they are installed. Trash this program if the Corp purges virus counters.
Traffic Jam
Neutral - 0 inf
Event - Current - 2 Cost
The advancement requirement of all agendas is increased by the amount of agendas in the Corp's scoring area that has the same name.
These are both in the first pack.
Some fast advance hate spoilers from Snow-Jax that I mentioned were coming in the first pack:
Clot
Anarch - 1 Inf
Program - Virus
Cost 1, Mem 1
The corp cannot score agendas on the same turn they are installed. Trash this program if the Corp purges virus counters.
Traffic Jam
Neutral - 0 inf
Event - Current - 2 Cost
The advancement requirement of all agendas is increased by the amount of agendas in the Corp's scoring area that has the same name.
These are both in the first pack.
I am also very cool with Anarch getting one of the strong anti FA cards. Anything that levels the power of the factions is good and Anarch have been in a rough spot for a while.
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not quite, it goes
-Last Chance to Jack out
-Successful run (successful run events fire)
-Access cards
So you get money from Gabe and all those sorts of successful run triggers before you access and a run is successful even if there are no cards in the server to access.
If the Ash is rezzed yes (because he'll fire the ability and you can choose not to contest it) otherwise no you have to access all cards.
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Damn, there are like twenty new cards in his feed from the new draft packs. Ice that gains strength when placed over certain central servers (or remote servers). Icebreakers that gain strength with every other installed icebreaker. A card that will let you remove cards in the corp archive from the game. A demolition run type card that lets you spend clicks to trash cards in HQ. A 0 cost card that forces the corp to derez a card (which could hurt Blue Sun a fair bit).
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It's one thing to keep people interested. It's another entirely when it's unofficial channels leaking cards all over the place. And another to release them as a marketing move (sorry, but this is basically how I view draft packs, as it's an underwhelming and overpriced format). I'm just getting super worn down with how Western culture it seems, with the "ALWAYS WANT MORE! MORE! MORE! GIMMIE!" mentality I tend to see alongside it. Can we not just be happy with what we have for a while and get a little more every so often? Do we really need to be strapped to a sugar-loaded IV?
*sigh*
</rant>
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
I agree to some extent ArcticLancer, certain in regard to SanSan spoilers before Order and Chaos is out...though I would totally be on board with someone spoiling whatever anti-FA is coming up to give us hope.
I was wondering when we'd see a Archives Interface, that's going to be handy.
Also, wow, Sage.
EDIT: I may be doing a arm-flailing tube-man thing IRL to Checkpoint, Patch, and Firmware Upgrades. eeeeeee
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I just had a wonderful thought. Checkpoint + Dedicated Response Team + The Cleaners.
ALL THE MEATSHOT.
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Though it's also worth mentioning cards like Nerve Agent/Medium let you choose how many you want to access in step 4.5.
word on the street is that it was FFG's marketing department's idea to put future cards in draft packs, and Lukas isn't pleased about it
hopefully this is the last time it happens, but who knows
Why do you think I like it? When have I not been all over DRT? ;p
Not surprising, but yeah, we'll see. Glad and sad to hear that I may be totally right about it as a marketing move. =_=
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
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daaaaaamn
and influence is already tight because of Lucky Find
I think it's playable in anarch but it's not great, after having used Duggar's for awhile I'd have to say that using all your clicks to do one thing is kinda shitty
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I'm a little bit worried that the rotating schedule means that new deluxe expansions will be more safe and less exciting, since they'll be around forever.
Which is a silly fear, I guess. If deluxe expansion cards really start dragging the game down, they'll just rotate them too, probably.
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valley grid + edge of world is ugly as sin
new mechanic is cool but those abilities seem pretty weak
three clicks to do 2 net damage?
it's hard enough to set up a kill even when you can do a net damage with every agenda
that jinteki agenda is most useful in whitetree where you can use it to put another token on Nisei but that deck has a hard time finding room for 1-point agendas
I dunno, guaranteed two is more reliable than neurals and saves you deck space. I would at least consider running it in my tori hanzo chairman hiro deck
Oh mah gerb.
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Also, if I'm reading Biotech right, you can spend 3 clicks to flip the card and use it's ability once, right? If so, Brewery has vastly less utility than the other two. I like the ability to one turn a Nisei out when you need to, or a whole Archive cycle.
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say you're running three braintrusts and three mushin-no-shins in your deck
you happen to draw both plus, say, two pieces of ice and a hedge fund in your opening hand
so you take the four-advance ID, draw a card, play the hedge, and install an ice on turn one
then mushin and install on turn two
then activate your ability on turn three
and now every piece of ice you rez earns you two dollars
a combo that works because it doesn't require you to focus your whole deck around it (mushin does lots of things and braintrusts are playable just as a blank 3/2) because you can take the two damage ID if you don't draw the pieces
maybe you take the archives recycler when you're up against Noise or another runner who you expect to draw out the game
this ID basically lets you play an oldschool Jinteki deck (mixed shell game/flatline/score-to-win) with more consistency
Anarch - 1 Inf
Program - Virus
Cost 1, Mem 1
The corp cannot score agendas on the same turn they are installed. Trash this program if the Corp purges virus counters.
Traffic Jam
Neutral - 0 inf
Event - Current - 2 Cost
The advancement requirement of all agendas is increased by the amount of agendas in the Corp's scoring area that has the same name.
These are both in the first pack.
Yes. Run my bioroid ice without any clicks to spend. JUST DO IT. YOU WIMP.
Basically turns them into extra 1 point agendas you don't have to worry being stolen.
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Around 80+ people, finished with 7 wins and a timed win. Which was only enough to get 2nd based on SOS, Jesse Vandover came first.
Used up all my luck already.
Was running Andy and HB
Dang.
I haven't played Netrunner in like a month, crazy work schedule and stuff.
I need to fix that stat.
yessssssssssssssssssssss
screw you, fast advance
fuck you