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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    i did a thing this weekend
    got a Tales game running on almost all my gaming machines
    phantasia on the GBA, Innocence on the DSLite (there's Tempest too), Abyss on the 3DS, Destiny on the PSP, Hearts R on the Vita, Vesperia on the Switch.

    I also got Vesperia again on 360, Symphonia, Zestiria and Berseria on the PC and Xilia, Graces F on PS3
    the only systems missing Tales games (for me) are wii, wiiu and PS4.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    TDawg wrote: »
    Hearing people complain about going back to Vesperia after Berseria is very exciting, because I haven't played Berseria yet but I am hoping to sometime this year and I am getting amazingly hyped. Better than Vesperia???!

    I think whichever game you played first factors into it a bit. Maybe if I'd played Vesperia first, I'd have those fond memories tied to it or something, I dunno. Berseria, IMO, is just so damn good. Interesting story and characters, and a fast/fluid combat system that's flashy and satisfyingly fun to play around with.

    I dropped Vesperia after a couple hours because the characters weren't doing anything for me, the story felt non-existent, and the combat was beyond clunky and boring. Also the English VA is atrocious, which is odd because I think I heard Troy Baker in there? He's not usually so awful, but I guess Yuri was one of his earlier roles? (was he even Yuri?)

    OK, so, Troy Baker was indeed Yuri and I believe it was one of his earlier roles when he wasn't famous and expensive. Also, when Vesperia was first released, not everything was voiced.

    Fast forward to now, and the Vesperia re-release is going to be fully voiced. But Troy Baker is a lot more expensive now. So all the new Yuri lines are voiced by Grant George doing a Troy Baker impression.

    I ended up buying a physical copy of ToV (for Xbox) substantially discounted the week before Kingdom Hearts 3 released, because that definitely made sense.

    I haven't played it since KH3 accordingly, but did get an hour or two in (basically up to Yuri's detainment). I actually played the demo on Xbox 360 as well as the full game, finding them both hard as nails--so if I've learned one thing (besides buying lots of Magic Lenses), it was setting it on easy. Aside from the challenge, there doesn't seem to be a single reason to play it on any particular difficulty mode, and I struggled with the game on normal last time around.

    Plus, I doubt I'll be able to find someone willing to play it with me. What local multiplayer I have left is monopolized by fighting games.

    EDIT: I do really like the 60 FPS framerate and higher resolution, neither of which were true on Xbox 360 or PS3, I think.

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    Orca wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote:
    Isn't "Your sarcasm makes me wet," the highest compliment an Abh can pay a human?

    Only if said Abh is a member of the nobility.
  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    Playing Vesperia on normal and above rewards GRADE from battles, which is used for New Game+.

    But you can also just farm it really easily later.

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Arteen wrote: »
    Playing Vesperia on normal and above rewards GRADE from battles, which is used for New Game+.

    But you can also just farm it really easily later.

    Blah blah blah tidal wave for a couple hours basically. Depending on what you want in NG+.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Arteen wrote: »
    Playing Vesperia on normal and above rewards GRADE from battles, which is used for New Game+.

    But you can also just farm it really easily later.

    Huh--come to think of it, I thought something was missing from the battles.

    On the other hand, I'm so terrible at the game I'm probably really going to need that easy. And unless I'm mistaken, I can change difficulty under settings.

    Orca wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote:
    Isn't "Your sarcasm makes me wet," the highest compliment an Abh can pay a human?

    Only if said Abh is a member of the nobility.
  • SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Arteen wrote: »
    Playing Vesperia on normal and above rewards GRADE from battles, which is used for New Game+.

    But you can also just farm it really easily later.

    Huh--come to think of it, I thought something was missing from the battles.

    On the other hand, I'm so terrible at the game I'm probably really going to need that easy. And unless I'm mistaken, I can change difficulty under settings.

    You can. I took it down to easy for various boss battles in the late game because I couldn't be arsed.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    i did a thing this weekend
    got a Tales game running on almost all my gaming machines
    phantasia on the GBA, Innocence on the DSLite (there's Tempest too), Abyss on the 3DS, Destiny on the PSP, Hearts R on the Vita, Vesperia on the Switch.

    I also got Vesperia again on 360, Symphonia, Zestiria and Berseria on the PC and Xilia, Graces F on PS3
    the only systems missing Tales games (for me) are wii, wiiu and PS4.

    Now import Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon for the GBC!

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    That's my trash! I love it!

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Dang.

    That is giant step up visually.

    Excited to see where this goes.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    Looks cool. Seems to have a bit of gloomier tone compared to your average Tales game.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Looks cool. Seems to have a bit of gloomier tone compared to your average Tales game.

    Was gonna bring up Berseria, but that’s absolutely not average in tone. Other games get gloomy, but usually not until the Reveal.

    Of course, Phantasia opened with a mass slaughter, so it’s not set in stone

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    I can't believe it. It's a Tales game with an art budget.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    as someone who has felt that Tales combat has been pretty samey for a long long time now (probably very much in the minority here, i know), am DEEPLY excited for Arise's combat

    it looks to be like, seamless? and sort of open-worldy? and they cranked up the "action game" meter like WAY HIGH. i saw dodge rolls!!

    i'm excited. i've honestly felt that the Tales series has needed a shake-up for a long time coming and, well, this is it, huh.

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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    I really hope they aren't trying to do too much and we end up with another Zestiria.

    It does look great visually, and if the combat is actually well implemented it could be like graces combat with more freeform doding.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Tales of Graces Anniversary Party set for November 24
    Bandai Namco will host a “Tales of Graces Anniversary Party” event at the Maihama Amphitheater on November 24 in celebration of the game’s 10th anniversary, the company announced.

    The afternoon performance will begin at 14:00 JST and end at 16:00 JST, while the night performance will start at 19:00 JST and end at 21:00 JST.

    Further details were not announced.

    Tales of Graces first launched for Wii in December 2009 in Japan. An enhanced port, Tales of Graces F, launched for PlayStation 3 in December 2010 in Japan, followed by March 2012 in North America and August 2012 in Europe.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    https://gematsu.com/2019/06/tales-of-arise-introduces-protagonist-alphen-and-heroine-shionne

    Alright I am honestly hoping for a fun romance part to the story.
    She causes pain to any she touches and he can't feel pain? So cliche and I LOVE IT.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Just gonna guess that she’s got at least one attack consisting of just holding her palm to the target.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    I ordered Tales of Vesperia Definitive for the Switch. It'll be my first foray into the series.

    Anything I should know?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    https://gematsu.com/2019/06/tales-of-arise-introduces-protagonist-alphen-and-heroine-shionne

    Alright I am honestly hoping for a fun romance part to the story.
    She causes pain to any she touches and he can't feel pain? So cliche and I LOVE IT.

    Its a Tales game, they don't have romance.

    You'll take this highly suggestive subtext and you'll like it.

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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    I ordered Tales of Vesperia Definitive for the Switch. It'll be my first foray into the series.

    Anything I should know?

    There is a ton of content hidden behind obtuse requirements. Find a spoiler free guide if you want to see as much of the game as possible.

    TDawg
  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    https://gematsu.com/2019/06/tales-of-arise-introduces-protagonist-alphen-and-heroine-shionne

    Alright I am honestly hoping for a fun romance part to the story.
    She causes pain to any she touches and he can't feel pain? So cliche and I LOVE IT.

    Its a Tales game, they don't have romance.

    You'll take this highly suggestive subtext and you'll like it.

    I'm trying to believe that this is part of the evolution!

    We'll get at least 1 smooch!

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Frozenzen wrote: »
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    I ordered Tales of Vesperia Definitive for the Switch. It'll be my first foray into the series.

    Anything I should know?

    There is a ton of content hidden behind obtuse requirements. Find a spoiler free guide if you want to see as much of the game as possible.

    I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    https://gematsu.com/2019/06/tales-of-arise-introduces-protagonist-alphen-and-heroine-shionne

    Alright I am honestly hoping for a fun romance part to the story.
    She causes pain to any she touches and he can't feel pain? So cliche and I LOVE IT.

    Its a Tales game, they don't have romance.

    You'll take this highly suggestive subtext and you'll like it.

    And that's the way I like it

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    So I grabbed Vesperia on Switch for like 12 american funbux after various discounts and points etc. My first Tales game since Symphonia, which was super my jam back in the day. I don't remember the combat being this janky though. I feel like I get stunlocked constantly, and poked out of artes all the time. One boss literally juggled me to death in the corner, I didn't even hit the ground until I was dead!

    I'm about 30 hours in though, so apparently I must be enjoying it? It's getting ridiculous the number of times my party has had the same argument about whether or not to advance the plot.

    Let's go
    We can't!
    But we could
    No, we couldn't
    But we should
    You're a dick for even thinking we should!
    ... eh Flynn will take care of it
    Ok let's go.

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  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    As much as I love Vesperia, and I appreciate that the game tries to justify why the group sticks together, they do have that same conversation a lot.

    To help with combat, I would recommend always equipping party members with weapons they can learn skills from. Some basic combat abilities in Symphonia need to be learned in Vesperia.

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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    So I grabbed Vesperia on Switch for like 12 american funbux after various discounts and points etc. My first Tales game since Symphonia, which was super my jam back in the day. I don't remember the combat being this janky though. I feel like I get stunlocked constantly, and poked out of artes all the time. One boss literally juggled me to death in the corner, I didn't even hit the ground until I was dead!

    I'm about 30 hours in though, so apparently I must be enjoying it? It's getting ridiculous the number of times my party has had the same argument about whether or not to advance the plot.

    It has been AGES since I have played Vesperia so take it with a grain of salt but making good use of dodging (side-steps and backdodge) & blocking improves the flow of combat a lot and opens up a ton of combo potential. Characters like Yuri, Judith, and Repede all excel at quick rapid combos, too.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    It might help a little to switch it from Semi-Auto to full Manual. I found that the range where player characters would start their attack was a bit closer than where enemies would start their attack, so they were always starting their attack first, which combined with Vesperia's slower player attack speed meant getting interrupted all the time. Of course, then you risk attacking thin air. Vesperia also tends to pack lots more enemies closer together, so you're more frequently fighting into a swarm, and even at the maximum aggression settings, your party does a piss-poor job of peeling.

    And yeah. I don't know what happened after Abyss to the Namco writing team, but the main plot for all the Tales games went from squibby to downright horrendous. It's weird because much of the character writing and skit stuff has remained pretty solid, but then the main plot is copy pasted scene after copy pasted scene. Berseria especially drove me nuts by the main plot going literally nowhere from start to finish despite the cast being one of the strongest the franchise has had.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    So far the fights where it's just one tough enemy have been the most fun. Basically anything where I don't get swarmed.

    I notice some bosses have armor that keeps you from interrupting their attacks. Do you ever get anything like that?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    So far the fights where it's just one tough enemy have been the most fun. Basically anything where I don't get swarmed.

    I notice some bosses have armor that keeps you from interrupting their attacks. Do you ever get anything like that?

    A little but its only so effective.

    Yuri also gets the Glory ability which is OP and makes it so he never flinches but that's an endgame thing.

    But yeah going back and playing it one thing I was annoyed about compared to the newer games is how every little thing staggers you.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    So far the fights where it's just one tough enemy have been the most fun. Basically anything where I don't get swarmed.

    I notice some bosses have armor that keeps you from interrupting their attacks. Do you ever get anything like that?

    You can, but not until almost postgame. Yuri's Last Fencer gives him it and its as utterly broken as it seems (not that Yuri being able to chain his mystic arte multiple times in a combo isnt dumb enough)

    Easy source of Last Fencer:
    Kill the second stage of the final boss with Yuri's mystic arte

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited April 15
    Went back to Berseria lately, been having a lot of fun.

    On a whim, I decided to sit down and really try to figure out spellcasting in this game, with the goal of making it easier to play as Magilou in dungeons where Spell Absorber is hyper important. Aaand I think that's resulted in Laphicet becoming my preferred character to play as, even above Velvet. I was super surprised, because I hadn't been enjoying spells at all until I looked up how to substitute strong spells for fast ones. But it's just so fun to blow up the entire arena as Laphicet. Magilou's also neat, but I feel her base spells thus far aren't as fun to pull off. Now, her Spell Absorber followups? Those are awesome. I just wish Magilou had more to do when enemies aren't using spells. Maybe I like Mystic Artes too much for my own good.

    But... yeah, I'm enjoying the combat a fair bit more at the moment, though it's so annoying when an enemy just shadows me the whole time while I'm trying to set up spells. That's a good reason to find a good melee combo for the mages, I guess.

    I'm thinking right now that my preferred characters are Laphicet, Velvet, and Magilou, in roughly that order.

    I do have a question about combat: I'm assuming that the way to go is to have a couple combos that flow well, and then equip another combo specifically for exploiting the weaknesses of the specific enemies in a given dungeon, is that right? That way you can set up a weakness combo and hopefully inflict some status ailments or staggers, for extra Souls.

    Enlong on
    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    I decided to start up Abyss again, and it's refreshing to see the game has some teeth, unlike Xillia.

    Also, the skits are hilarious.
    (I almost typed skirts, which seems accurate too.)

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Abyss has some funny skirts, but Berseria has the funniest skirt in the franchise.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
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  • Shenl742Shenl742 Registered User regular
    Velvet: "What we would we do without this inane banter"

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Yeah, Berseria also has some funny skits.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Yeah, Berseria also has some funny skits.

    Zestiria and Berseria both have really strong writing on party banter, though I think Berseria is better about spreading the suffering around. Poor Sorey gets picked on by everyone.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    stupid wolf boss in vesperia roadblocking me (kinda literally)

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Yeah, that one's dumb. You know about the flower stun, right? Otherwise, just free run any time it's coming for you to stall it while the party hits it.

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  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    That wolf is brutal.

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