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[MTG] Pack Rat Fever (BOTG Sealed League, see pg 20)

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    tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    to me, modern mill would be 4 glimpse the unthinkables, 4 archival traps, and a ton of hate

    googling modern mill brought me to a forum thread about this kind of deck, maybe that would help you

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    That would be an excellent way to do it.

    I think, you could pretty easily beef up the current Defender/Phenax mill, probably swinging for a hand full of really great creatures, a standard "You don't get to play magic" tech, and 3 Traumatize (I love this spell) + 4 Glimpse.

    I wouldn't want to make it too reliant on just those two spells. While they are obviously great at it, Modern also has decks/ways to silence a handful of spells. So I'd keep the Phenax stuff, just use the much better and more appropriate Modern creatures you get access to.

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    I think to make Mill a thing in Modern you'd need Phenax to basically hit the table and win the game. In addition to your Traumatizes and Glimpses.

    So you'd need to add either G or W to BU to get access to some cheap big butts like Tree of Redemption or Wall of Shards, as well as Dryad Militant or Rest in Peace to keep them from getting their stuff back.

    You'll also need Removal in case of Platinum Angel or similar "can't lose" shenanigans. A sweeper or mass-bouncer is probably the way to go. Preferably uncounterable.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    I think Traumatize is probably bad for what you want to go for in modern. A five mana 'half your deck' spell likely will not get you very far. You will also need a ton of graveyard hate for things like Emrakul, Kozilek, etc

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
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    Someone linked this to me... maybe??

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Eh, I like it. I've seen success with it. If you hit it on T5 T6, and have your mana, it can be crushing. Otherwise you do just hold them. But, in a deck with blue... Holding a card can be psychologically powerful.

    That's actually the reason I like Traumatize. If you hit it on the perfect turn, and you can actually cast it, it's such a demoralizing hit... That alone can win you the game. If your opponent has no/limited GY recovery, the words "Half your deck." have more weight than the actual cards you remove. Most people play differently, panicked. In a true "pro" situation, at the final table, you hit someone for "Half your deck."... Well, you've got to be one cool customer to take that in stride and know you statistically can still recover.

    Not saying it's a great card or anything. But factors like that are just as important as the cards themselves. Throwing your opponent off his game, well... He's off his game, isn't he?

    Just my opinion. Remember, I play wacky decks and the highest table I've ever been to is my FNM and a kitchen.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Frankly playing mill probably helps a few modern decks get going

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    The Betman wrote: »
    Frankly playing mill probably helps a few modern decks get going

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    That's why I can't imagine playing Mill without Tormod's Crypt or Rest in Peace or something, anything, that exiles their graveyard.

    I got a LOT of mileage out of Cremate when I was running Mill during the INN-RTR standard.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    Eh, I like it. I've seen success with it. If you hit it on T5 T6, and have your mana, it can be crushing. Otherwise you do just hold them. But, in a deck with blue... Holding a card can be psychologically powerful.

    That's actually the reason I like Traumatize. If you hit it on the perfect turn, and you can actually cast it, it's such a demoralizing hit... That alone can win you the game. If your opponent has no/limited GY recovery, the words "Half your deck." have more weight than the actual cards you remove. Most people play differently, panicked. In a true "pro" situation, at the final table, you hit someone for "Half your deck."... Well, you've got to be one cool customer to take that in stride and know you statistically can still recover.

    Not saying it's a great card or anything. But factors like that are just as important as the cards themselves. Throwing your opponent off his game, well... He's off his game, isn't he?

    Just my opinion. Remember, I play wacky decks and the highest table I've ever been to is my FNM and a kitchen.

    so would you say your opponent is








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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    Oh you're probably right.

    I'd like to see someone try though. The only reason we don't see more decks is people are afraid to try them because "there are answers". But, like... That's the game. Find your own answers. There are answers for everything in just about every color. Sometimes you have to get really creative with them.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    if you're going to play traumatize you should also play bitter ordeal

    and just, you know, get 8 mana or whatever

    this is the only mill i approve of

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    do we know what color this new walker is again

    either way I already don't like him

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    looks like blue-red, from the border

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    you look blue red from the border

    also I didn't look close enough

    blue-red is not my favorite color combo please recreate this walker

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I would prefer blue/black.

    Isn't he a thief?

    A thought thief?

    Isn't that very much blue/black's thing?

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    He's UR, and has always been defined that way in things like DOTP and the comix

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    I would prefer blue/black.

    Isn't he a thief?

    A thought thief?

    Isn't that very much blue/black's thing?

    No, they steal Notions.
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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Boooo

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    izzet haters :arrow:

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I don't hate Izzet, I just think they're nowhere near as cool as Dimir.

    Dimir > Simic > Izzet > Anything that isn't blue

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited April 2014
    I applaud liking Simic and Dimir but I'm going to have to dock you several points for liking them because they have blue in them

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    if you're going to play traumatize you should also play bitter ordeal

    and just, you know, get 8 mana or whatever

    this is the only mill i approve of

    T8 happens eventually, right?

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    only against control, son

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    holy fuck today's previews are a doozy

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    Those.

    Those are some gangster cards.

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    As if white needed to be stronger in limited, let's have a fixed O-ring!

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    I like the look of that spider

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    Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    Hello Nyx Weaver.

    I love you.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    no no ew no

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    silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    So a "fixed" Oblivion Ring? Oblivion Ring will never be reprinted again now.

    And a Flash Death Pact. Flash adds an interesting dimension to it.

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    I was just about to say I wanted insects, but spiders were okay

    but now I don't have to settle

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    They were never going to reprint Oblivion Ring anyway, because of the way it was templated. The new Banisher Priest-style wording is simpler, and doesn't allow for shenanigans like killing your own Ring to permanently exile something, or three Rings breaking MTGO.

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
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    Hmm...

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    More like Taraslow

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    APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    I was just saying how UWx Control needed another DSphere.

    And B needed more Thoughtseize effects.

    /sarcasm

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    More like Taraslow

    That'll teach me not to refresh before I post when I've been over on another site for a while.

    But I will leave the post there as a reminder of my greatest failing.

    Also, now that my work on Dewey is done, I got tapped to work on Louie.

    Woo!

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
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