M15 will be awesome and will have some crazy interactions with Theros block. I predict that a lot of cards that were dismissed previously will find new life.
Today is the first Sunday of Pro Tour, right? When they said they'd reveal some Huey info?
M15 will be awesome and will have some crazy interactions with Theros block. I predict that a lot of cards that were dismissed previously will find new life.
Today is the first Sunday of Pro Tour, right? When they said they'd reveal some Huey info?
Will Trait Doctoring finally get its day in the sun?
M15 will be awesome and will have some crazy interactions with Theros block. I predict that a lot of cards that were dismissed previously will find new life.
Today is the first Sunday of Pro Tour, right? When they said they'd reveal some Huey info?
Will Trait Doctoring finally get its day in the sun?
M15 will be awesome and will have some crazy interactions with Theros block. I predict that a lot of cards that were dismissed previously will find new life.
Today is the first Sunday of Pro Tour, right? When they said they'd reveal some Huey info?
M15 will be awesome and will have some crazy interactions with Theros block. I predict that a lot of cards that were dismissed previously will find new life.
Today is the first Sunday of Pro Tour, right? When they said they'd reveal some Huey info?
Will Trait Doctoring finally get its day in the sun?
All-American Heroes is a fringe deck playing four.
M15 will be awesome and will have some crazy interactions with Theros block. I predict that a lot of cards that were dismissed previously will find new life.
Today is the first Sunday of Pro Tour, right? When they said they'd reveal some Huey info?
Will Trait Doctoring finally get its day in the sun?
Fair point.
Didn't Ice Age have a card like that? I know there used to be the old -lace spells but I thought we got a super lace all the way back in Ice Age or something.
M15 will be awesome and will have some crazy interactions with Theros block. I predict that a lot of cards that were dismissed previously will find new life.
Today is the first Sunday of Pro Tour, right? When they said they'd reveal some Huey info?
Will Trait Doctoring finally get its day in the sun?
Fair point.
Didn't Ice Age have a card like that? I know there used to be the old -lace spells but I thought we got a super lace all the way back in Ice Age or something.
Didn't really get played there either.
They were in the core sets in the day
There were some decks that used them to hilarious advantage, altho anti color cards were also a lot meaner as well.
That red card? I actually think I have sons of those.
But the point is, it reads like you are supposed to destroy the actual physical card.
Reminds me of the story about Time Walk original text
Do tell.
So apparently during the original play testing for Magic, a tester went up to Richard Garfield and told him he found a card that seemed really overpowered because it let him win the game on the spot. Garfield was understandably puzzled and curious.
The card was Time Walk.
It's original text was "Target player loses next turn"
While the intention is clearly "skipping" the turn, it could be read as actually losing the game.
I mean, 'destroy' is a game term that everyone knows well. When you're playing a game of Alpha Magic, where no one knows what the fuck is going on, 'loses next turn' can sound like a game loss.
Both of those are just people taking text too literally.
If I cast Dreadbore on an opponent's Jace, the Mind Sculptor, I get to rip it up, right?
I think what stood out to me is that it said "target CARD" not permanent. That's weird the wording feels... weird.
But obviously it DOESNT mean rip up the card.
But with Time Walk, that's was playtesting freaking Alpha. Who knows what's going on? There was no judge community. No Gatherer to look up rulings on. Simply changing the wording a bit to prevent confusion was the smart move
I don't think the tester was actually confused, I think he was just making a point
For a very specific group of cards in a virtual set filled entirely with cards that basically have no use outside of Vintage.
And so to get the cards you want you have to......
use the online client
the greatest tragedy
Followed shortly by artificially raising the cost of the chase cards in the set.
For the second time.
In less than six years.
I'm sorry there is just nothing in the world that will make me care about people having difficulties getting Black Lotus's. The only place it isn't banned is Vintage. like 25 in the whole world play vintage.
The thing is that yes they are "artificially" increasing the rarity of cards but those cards are only collectibles. The power nine is special.
I'm almost happy it's that way, I was going to buy Vintage masters as trade bait anyway! ( Altho now I won't pull any, tho I figure a box or 2 should get a couple I'd hope to get me trade baited into standard)
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4 Athreos, God of Passage
2 Erebos, God of the Dead
4 Underworld Coinsmith
4 Odunos River Trawler
4 Grim Guardian
1 Blood Bairn
1 Cartel Aristocrat
4 Hopeful Eidolon
4 Eidolon of Countless Battles
4 Spiteful Returned
8 Swamp
8 Plains
4 Temple of Silence
4 Godless Shrine
2 Hero's Downfall
2 Bile Blight
I want to play a bit more with the whole etb/sac outlet, but wish there was a bit cheaper of a fetch, don't know if I want to splash a 3rd color in there that much, but some self mill or draw would be possible.
Plus, if you're playing Vintage you only need one of each Power 9 because they're restricted. It's not like you're going to need more than one Black Lotus. So the special rarity is fine in this instance for this this type of product.
I am actually excited that WOTC is giving Vintage some love online. I want to see more people playing that format and developing new stratagies and archetypes.
For a very specific group of cards in a virtual set filled entirely with cards that basically have no use outside of Vintage.
And so to get the cards you want you have to......
use the online client
the greatest tragedy
Followed shortly by artificially raising the cost of the chase cards in the set.
For the second time.
In less than six years.
I'm sorry there is just nothing in the world that will make me care about people having difficulties getting Black Lotus's. The only place it isn't banned is Vintage. like 25 in the whole world play vintage.
The thing is that yes they are "artificially" increasing the rarity of cards but those cards are only collectibles. The power nine is special.
Mythic rarity was supposed to be designated to "special" cards. That was the whole point of mythic rarity. Now, you just described them as special. Unique maybe?
This now leads us to the next question: How are cards split between rare and mythic rare? Or more to the point, what kind of cards are going to become mythic rares? We want the flavor of mythic rare to be something that feels very special and unique. Generally speaking we expect that to mean cards like Planeswalkers, most legends, and epic-feeling creatures and spells. They will not just be a list of each set's most powerful tournament-level cards.
That all sounds antithetical to what this new rarity is.
They have the opportunity to open up Vintage as a format online, to solve the issue of the supply that chokes off the ability of people to play it in paper magic, and instead of going that route they are going to create an unneccesary barrier to entry that is not needed, or required.
i'm confused as to how anyone played either black or green at any point with those things around
it seems like the whole metagame would just be about whose colour hoser beats whose
but then i guess most games finished on turn one with channel/fireball so it was a moot point
Sideboarding wasn't exactly a thing. Neither was card advantage, mana curve or a bunch of other modern concepts. The seeds of those ideas was there but not really formalized or understood.
Was a different time. A time where hard counterspells cost UU, and sometimes added the casting cost of the countered spell to your mana pool next turn. A time when a B and a card would get you BBB and everybody was fine with that.
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Wizards does not care about opening up vintage they care about selling hella cardboard (and digital cardboard) first and then modern/standard balance second
Vintage and Legacy are broken crap that should be discontinued but if people are still going to clamor for that awful old stuff then WotC could do worse then add a third higher rarity for the digital version of truly game breaking cards only legal in the worst possible constructed format
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
Wizards does not care about opening up vintage they care about selling hella cardboard (and digital cardboard) first and then modern/standard balance second
Vintage and Legacy are broken crap that should be discontinued but if people are still going to clamor for that awful old stuff then WotC could do worse then add a third higher rarity for the digital version of truly game breaking cards only legal in the worst possible constructed format
Legacy is probably the most wide open format. Yes duals cost $texas, but in terms of number of viable decks it's the top format.
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edited May 2014
You guys forgot my most hated of color-hate cards:
While Karma was annoying it wasn't that bad as far as color hosers go. When the other side of the coin is fucking Boil, instant speed mass land destruction, it's a high bar for some damage each turn to count.
Though yea, Volcanic Eruption is hilarious. Land destruction? Mass damage to creatures and players? Yup, right there in the blue color pie for sure.
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It really makes for some crazy decks.
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Fair point.
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So... Phenax Mill will be Tournament viable then?
All-American Heroes is a fringe deck playing four.
Didn't Ice Age have a card like that? I know there used to be the old -lace spells but I thought we got a super lace all the way back in Ice Age or something.
Didn't really get played there either.
They were in the core sets in the day
There were some decks that used them to hilarious advantage, altho anti color cards were also a lot meaner as well.
An onboard unlimited use Counterspell? Yeah, it only works against Black (normally) but that's insane.
And NOT BLUE???
What? Black got one too:
Blue got lifegain:
Red got itself a counterspell AND unspecified permenant destruction:
Efficient small flyer?
Totally red.
Pumpable toughness?
Definitely Red.
That red card? I actually think I have sons of those.
But the point is, it reads like you are supposed to destroy the actual physical card.
Reminds me of the story about Time Walk original text
Do tell.
So apparently during the original play testing for Magic, a tester went up to Richard Garfield and told him he found a card that seemed really overpowered because it let him win the game on the spot. Garfield was understandably puzzled and curious.
The card was Time Walk.
It's original text was "Target player loses next turn"
While the intention is clearly "skipping" the turn, it could be read as actually losing the game.
So the text was changed
If I cast Dreadbore on an opponent's Jace, the Mind Sculptor, I get to rip it up, right?
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it seems like the whole metagame would just be about whose colour hoser beats whose
but then i guess most games finished on turn one with channel/fireball so it was a moot point
I think what stood out to me is that it said "target CARD" not permanent. That's weird the wording feels... weird.
But obviously it DOESNT mean rip up the card.
But with Time Walk, that's was playtesting freaking Alpha. Who knows what's going on? There was no judge community. No Gatherer to look up rulings on. Simply changing the wording a bit to prevent confusion was the smart move
I don't think the tester was actually confused, I think he was just making a point
by the wording, i would think that the tester had the correct interpretation of the card as well
For a very specific group of cards in a virtual set filled entirely with cards that basically have no use outside of Vintage.
And so to get the cards you want you have to......
use the online client
the greatest tragedy
Followed shortly by artificially raising the cost of the chase cards in the set.
For the second time.
In less than six years.
I'm sorry there is just nothing in the world that will make me care about people having difficulties getting Black Lotus's. The only place it isn't banned is Vintage. like 25 in the whole world play vintage.
The thing is that yes they are "artificially" increasing the rarity of cards but those cards are only collectibles. The power nine is special.
I was working on a dumb thing
2 Erebos, God of the Dead
4 Underworld Coinsmith
4 Odunos River Trawler
4 Grim Guardian
1 Blood Bairn
1 Cartel Aristocrat
4 Hopeful Eidolon
4 Eidolon of Countless Battles
4 Spiteful Returned
8 Swamp
8 Plains
4 Temple of Silence
4 Godless Shrine
2 Hero's Downfall
2 Bile Blight
I want to play a bit more with the whole etb/sac outlet, but wish there was a bit cheaper of a fetch, don't know if I want to splash a 3rd color in there that much, but some self mill or draw would be possible.
I am actually excited that WOTC is giving Vintage some love online. I want to see more people playing that format and developing new stratagies and archetypes.
Mythic rarity was supposed to be designated to "special" cards. That was the whole point of mythic rarity. Now, you just described them as special. Unique maybe?
That all sounds antithetical to what this new rarity is.
They have the opportunity to open up Vintage as a format online, to solve the issue of the supply that chokes off the ability of people to play it in paper magic, and instead of going that route they are going to create an unneccesary barrier to entry that is not needed, or required.
Sideboarding wasn't exactly a thing. Neither was card advantage, mana curve or a bunch of other modern concepts. The seeds of those ideas was there but not really formalized or understood.
Was a different time. A time where hard counterspells cost UU, and sometimes added the casting cost of the countered spell to your mana pool next turn. A time when a B and a card would get you BBB and everybody was fine with that.
Vintage and Legacy are broken crap that should be discontinued but if people are still going to clamor for that awful old stuff then WotC could do worse then add a third higher rarity for the digital version of truly game breaking cards only legal in the worst possible constructed format
Legacy is probably the most wide open format. Yes duals cost $texas, but in terms of number of viable decks it's the top format.
and one of the worst color-pie violations
Though yea, Volcanic Eruption is hilarious. Land destruction? Mass damage to creatures and players? Yup, right there in the blue color pie for sure.