I don't know why the guy just doesn't shut the fuck up and collect his huge pile of ongoing cash. There doesn't need to be a 15 minutes of fame aspect involved here at ALL. He hit the jackpot and could be set for life but he's out there taking criticism personally and responding on Twitter for no reason at all.
I feel a little better about myself knowing that things like Twitter still haven't gotten their claws into me and I was completely unaware of Flappy Bird until now. But I'll soon return to hating myself, don't you worry.
I don't know why the guy just doesn't shut the fuck up and collect his huge pile of ongoing cash. There doesn't need to be a 15 minutes of fame aspect involved here at ALL. He hit the jackpot and could be set for life but he's out there taking criticism personally and responding on Twitter for no reason at all.
Absolutely - this is solved by sending a mass email to his friends and family informing them that he is changing his email address / twitter / facebook pages to something private, and just ignoring the other ones for however long it takes for the internet to have moved on from his game.
I cannot even begin to imagine pulling the plug on a thing that generates a million bucks every three weeks, that people seem to like for some reason.
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Maybe he can't shut up and collect his fat stacks? I know Nintendo sucks at the internet, but I don't think anything gets that big on their "look and feel" and gets away with it.
I don't know why the guy just doesn't shut the fuck up and collect his huge pile of ongoing cash. There doesn't need to be a 15 minutes of fame aspect involved here at ALL. He hit the jackpot and could be set for life but he's out there taking criticism personally and responding on Twitter for no reason at all.
Because he didn't plan for it at all. Like, he went from making a dumb game on a lark to suddenly people on all sides hyper analyzing his game and making personal attacks. I'm not at all surprised he doesn't have the clarity of mind to abandon his social media because it wasn't a thing he would have ever considered doing prior to the popularity explosion. He's making the decision that makes the most instinctual sense by getting rid of the thing that caused this, he's not thinking farther than that because that is a lot of stress to deal with.
I don't know why the guy just doesn't shut the fuck up and collect his huge pile of ongoing cash. There doesn't need to be a 15 minutes of fame aspect involved here at ALL. He hit the jackpot and could be set for life but he's out there taking criticism personally and responding on Twitter for no reason at all.
Absolutely - this is solved by sending a mass email to his friends and family informing them that he is changing his email address / twitter / facebook pages to something private, and just ignoring the other ones for however long it takes for the internet to have moved on from his game.
I cannot even begin to imagine pulling the plug on a thing that generates a million bucks every three weeks, that people seem to like for some reason.
I've noticed with the internet that it takes about a week of shutting up and being quiet for attention to shift elsewhere. The real trick is then staying quiet and not pissing people off again.
He's making the decision that makes the most instinctual sense by getting rid of the thing that caused this, he's not thinking farther than that because that is a lot of stress to deal with.
I understand his position but at the same time I see the internet as a stress you have to actively choose to impose upon yourself.
He could just not go online for a while. Or just not click on those threads that mention his game, or whatever. I guess a lot of people don't see that as an option these days.
first off, I never actually found out where he stole the assets from. it looks like a mario warp pipe but it's differently rendered so it's not stolen. the bird itself looks kinda like a cheepcheep from mario, but again not a stolen asset. the game itself is the same helicopter/jetpack man/ribbion flyer type game where you have to guide something through a treacherous path using only one button.
I don't think he really did anything wrong here except make a polished version of an already popular game, and then decicded he didn't like the attention.
first off, I never actually found out where he stole the assets from. it looks like a mario warp pipe but it's differently rendered so it's not stolen. the bird itself looks kinda like a cheepcheep from mario, but again not a stolen asset. the game itself is the same helicopter/jetpack man/ribbion flyer type game where you have to guide something through a treacherous path using only one button.
I don't think he really did anything wrong here except make a polished version of an already popular game, and then decicded he didn't like the attention.
"Look and feel" is a real term used in copyright infringement. Whether it's ripped or not directly, that is still something to contend with.
I saw someone playing Flappy Bird the other day, although I didn't know what it was called at the time. I instantly recognized the graphics and instantly recognized what a shitty "game" it was.
A LARGE amount of movies that grossed the most amount of money had violence in it.
Is there any games that would fit the romantic comedy genre? And I don't mean Hentai dating "Sim"s. How did they sell, if so? Because those are usually good box office proceeds and sometimes great.
There romcom-level non-hentai visual novels in Japan, enough that there are genres based on audience. It'd be interesting to see the (likely very modest) sales breakdown by demographic.
In the West? Can't even think of a game that I'd classify as a romcom. Uh... Leisure Suit Larry, I guess, is all I got, and that's pretty blue and barely fits.
Bioware games are largely making their silly romances more of a core part of their game design
A LARGE amount of movies that grossed the most amount of money had violence in it.
Is there any games that would fit the romantic comedy genre? And I don't mean Hentai dating "Sim"s. How did they sell, if so? Because those are usually good box office proceeds and sometimes great.
There romcom-level non-hentai visual novels in Japan, enough that there are genres based on audience. It'd be interesting to see the (likely very modest) sales breakdown by demographic.
In the West? Can't even think of a game that I'd classify as a romcom. Uh... Leisure Suit Larry, I guess, is all I got, and that's pretty blue and barely fits.
Bioware games are largely making their silly romances more of a core part of their game design
I've sometimes wondered if one of their games would be the first Western game to go all in on relationship building, dropping say the RPG elements of Dragon Age since it seems like fewer and fewer people end up talking about that part of the game at all.
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first off, I never actually found out where he stole the assets from. it looks like a mario warp pipe but it's differently rendered so it's not stolen. the bird itself looks kinda like a cheepcheep from mario, but again not a stolen asset. the game itself is the same helicopter/jetpack man/ribbion flyer type game where you have to guide something through a treacherous path using only one button.
I don't think he really did anything wrong here except make a polished version of an already popular game, and then decicded he didn't like the attention.
"Look and feel" is a real term used in copyright infringement. Whether it's ripped or not directly, that is still something to contend with.
right but, while two elements of the game have similar aesthetics, the game around it is nothing like mario. where do you draw the line. does every game with gold rings steal from sonic? does every game that remotely emulated the style of mario fall under this? because if so braid stole a lot from mario.
this sounds just like the candy crush situation except that nintendo somehow has copyrighted green pipes.
that kotaku article accusing it of 'ripping off' mario art had to change the title for being misleading. you can make homages to mario without directly stealing anything.
He's making the decision that makes the most instinctual sense by getting rid of the thing that caused this, he's not thinking farther than that because that is a lot of stress to deal with.
I understand his position but at the same time I see the internet as a stress you have to actively choose to impose upon yourself.
He could just not go online for a while. Or just not click on those threads that mention his game, or whatever. I guess a lot of people don't see that as an option these days.
Welcome to 2014. Tried to do any software work that didn't include the internet?
To put it less snarky, this mindset is victim blaming.
It's his fault for going on the internet. He should change his behavior if he doesn't want other people to give him stress.
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A LARGE amount of movies that grossed the most amount of money had violence in it.
Is there any games that would fit the romantic comedy genre? And I don't mean Hentai dating "Sim"s. How did they sell, if so? Because those are usually good box office proceeds and sometimes great.
There romcom-level non-hentai visual novels in Japan, enough that there are genres based on audience. It'd be interesting to see the (likely very modest) sales breakdown by demographic.
In the West? Can't even think of a game that I'd classify as a romcom. Uh... Leisure Suit Larry, I guess, is all I got, and that's pretty blue and barely fits.
Bioware games are largely making their silly romances more of a core part of their game design
But is it really a romantic comedy just because the romance arcs are hilariously, laughably bad?
Sure, I get amusement out of movies so bad they're good, but I don't call them comedies.
this sounds just like the candy crush situation except that nintendo somehow has copyrighted green pipes.
When you saw Flappy Bird in action, wasn't your first thought, "Hey, those are the pipes from Mario Bros."? I did. Those particular green pipes are Nintendo's pipes.
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first off, I never actually found out where he stole the assets from. it looks like a mario warp pipe but it's differently rendered so it's not stolen. the bird itself looks kinda like a cheepcheep from mario, but again not a stolen asset. the game itself is the same helicopter/jetpack man/ribbion flyer type game where you have to guide something through a treacherous path using only one button.
I don't think he really did anything wrong here except make a polished version of an already popular game, and then decicded he didn't like the attention.
"Look and feel" is a real term used in copyright infringement. Whether it's ripped or not directly, that is still something to contend with.
right but, while two elements of the game have similar aesthetics, the game around it is nothing like mario. where do you draw the line. does every game with gold rings steal from sonic? does every game that remotely emulated the style of mario fall under this? because if so braid stole a lot from mario.
this sounds just like the candy crush situation except that nintendo somehow has copyrighted green pipes.
that kotaku article accusing it of 'ripping off' mario art had to change the title for being misleading. you can make homages to mario without directly stealing anything.
Man, I'm not even trying to justify it nor do I even really care, I'm just saying it's a real thing that could be a reason. That's it. I don't want to have this debate at all.
this sounds just like the candy crush situation except that nintendo somehow has copyrighted green pipes.
When you saw Flappy Bird in action, wasn't your first thought, "Hey, those are the pipes from Mario Bros."? I did. Those particular green pipes are Nintendo's pipes.
games reference other games all the time. the pipes in flappy bird and the warp pipes in mario are functionally very different. the obstacles in flappy bird could be anything. they choose a retro aesthetic and the pipes are simply a nod to mario bros. I don't see how it's stealing if they created new assets. if it was a mario clone and the pipes literally worked the same and were lifted straight from a nintendo game, I would recognize that as stealing.
retro city rampage is a take-off of classic GTA gameplay with nods to a ton of retro games. is it stealing to reference the tons of retro titles mentioned in that game? I don't think so. the line between inspiration and stealing is pretty clear.
And lets be clear here, Nintendo hasn't come out and said or done anything against this guy. There are people on Twitter and forums and Kotaku calling him a thief and he's letting it get to him.
Just cash your checks and enjoy the windfall, dude, nobody will care in 48 hours.
I don't know why the guy just doesn't shut the fuck up and collect his huge pile of ongoing cash. There doesn't need to be a 15 minutes of fame aspect involved here at ALL. He hit the jackpot and could be set for life but he's out there taking criticism personally and responding on Twitter for no reason at all.
Of all places, I didn't expect these forums to be antagonistic about his decision.
He could have strong social anxiety and the weight of the attention is not worth it to him
Maybe he was in a bad place in his life and the attention is hitting at a really really wrong time.
Or maybe he has a lot of pride in his ability as a programmer/designer and getting attention for something he doesn't deem worth it feels awful to him.
You can act all internet macho about it not affecting you if you were in his shoes.... but you are not. The internet was collectively shitting on him and theres plenty of reasons (in addition to the ones above) he would not have wanted to deal with it anymore.
I have no sympathy for the guy WHINING about making 50k a day. That's not "Internet macho", its my opinion after researching the situation. Regardless, he took the game down. I don't believe he ripped off Nintendo and I don't believe he deserves to be shit on by people on Twitter. But there's a simple solution to all his problems, it's called "logging off".
But feel free to project that he's a delicate flower, only existing to provide impactful gameplay experiences that nobody can ever know about.
Then be private. Log off and take your game down without a Twitter announcement. Stop posting how awful this entire success story has been for you. Fade away. Nobody would even be talking about this if he hadn't consistently kept going on and on about it.
again, it goes back to blaming him. he's only spoken out in reaction to other's claims, only to be told "tough shit moneybags", as if having money solves all of one's problems. as the old adage goes, "mo' money, mo' problems". you keep saying 'boohoo he's so rich and successful'. things like success don't come without a downside. he shouldn't have to give up the internet and become a hermit because he doesn't feel like becoming a media spectacle. he's supposed to shut down his twitter and hide away, and let people say whatever they want? makes sense. or instead we could stop the clickbaiting articles about the guy saying he's a theif and a plagiarist, claiming it's a game 'comprised of stolen assets'. nah, he should just shut up and be rich right?
The world would be a much better place if people would just stop being huge dicks all the time. There's a reason why this is the only place on the internet where I actually talk to anybody.
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If I started getting shit like that in my Twitter feed, I'd probably freak the fuck out too. Part of me would like to say that I'd disconnect for a while and let it blow over, but I also know that I would not act rationally.
If I started getting shit like that in my Twitter feed, I'd probably freak the fuck out too. Part of me would like to say that I'd disconnect for a while and let it blow over, but I also know that I would not act rationally.
I have a tough time imagining the sheltered life where somebody has managed to never encounter morons and idiots.
Yes, the hysterical remarks about pulling the game are idiotic. Yes, it is also stupid for somebody to get themselves incredibly worked-up over them.
If regular folks had shit-fits everyone was an asshole to them in person, most people wouldn't get through a single day without getting in a fistfight. I honestly have no clue what people expect out of this. The internet to be rational, I guess? Because that's just never happening. So either he can figure out how to shrug off asshole remarks from anonymous people like a regular person, or he can continue looking like an idiot by trying to fight with them. When you argue with a fool, and so on.
I've gotten death threats just for playing games. I then deleted the messages and blocked or muted the sender and carried on with my day. Assholes are not a new phenomenon, and neither is realizing they aren't worth your time. The whole thing is a complete non-issue, aside from whether or not this guy ripped off assets from other games. I don't even know why the guy's reaction is continuing to be discussed.
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i think this topic is hot enough to get its own thread. I'd make it, but I actually don't really understand what the hell is going on. Though the tweets I'm seeing above make me think some folks across the net could use a healthy dose of shut-the-fuck-up-you-child.
If I started getting shit like that in my Twitter feed, I'd probably freak the fuck out too. Part of me would like to say that I'd disconnect for a while and let it blow over, but I also know that I would not act rationally.
I have a tough time imagining the sheltered life where somebody has managed to never encounter morons and idiots.
Yes, the hysterical remarks about pulling the game are idiotic. Yes, it is also stupid for somebody to get themselves incredibly worked-up over them.
If regular folks had shit-fits everyone was an asshole to them in person, most people wouldn't get through a single day without getting in a fistfight. I honestly have no clue what people expect out of this. The internet to be rational, I guess? Because that's just never happening. So either he can figure out how to shrug off asshole remarks from anonymous people like a regular person, or he can continue looking like an idiot by trying to fight with them. When you argue with a fool, and so on.
I've gotten death threats just for playing games. I then deleted the messages and blocked or muted the sender and carried on with my day. Assholes are not a new phenomenon, and neither is realizing they aren't worth your time. The whole thing is a complete non-issue, aside from whether or not this guy ripped off assets from other games. I don't even know why the guy's reaction is continuing to be discussed.
I don't think you quite understand the volume of hate he's getting. I get that, it can be difficult to comprehend getting a never ending stream of shit thrown at you but don't try and act like a death threat here or there is comparable, he's getting them on the level of ten more for every one he deletes. That's not something easy to move on from.
i think this topic is hot enough to get its own thread. I'd make it, but I actually don't really understand what the hell is going on. Though the tweets I'm seeing above make me think some folks across the net could use a healthy dose of shut-the-fuck-up-you-child.
Edit: to be slightly more constructive, maybe the shut/child part could be replaced with 'fucking sack up and get your ass some empathy, you child.'
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If I started getting shit like that in my Twitter feed, I'd probably freak the fuck out too. Part of me would like to say that I'd disconnect for a while and let it blow over, but I also know that I would not act rationally.
I have a tough time imagining the sheltered life where somebody has managed to never encounter morons and idiots.
Yes, the hysterical remarks about pulling the game are idiotic. Yes, it is also stupid for somebody to get themselves incredibly worked-up over them.
If regular folks had shit-fits everyone was an asshole to them in person, most people wouldn't get through a single day without getting in a fistfight. I honestly have no clue what people expect out of this. The internet to be rational, I guess? Because that's just never happening. So either he can figure out how to shrug off asshole remarks from anonymous people like a regular person, or he can continue looking like an idiot by trying to fight with them. When you argue with a fool, and so on.
I've gotten death threats just for playing games. I then deleted the messages and blocked or muted the sender and carried on with my day. Assholes are not a new phenomenon, and neither is realizing they aren't worth your time. The whole thing is a complete non-issue, aside from whether or not this guy ripped off assets from other games. I don't even know why the guy's reaction is continuing to be discussed.
When people get in my face at work, I laugh. It's a defensive reflex, something that helps lighten my mood so that I don't go the other reflexive route, taking a swing at them. Even though I'm laughing, I'm also shaking. I feel my hands tense up, my chest tighten, and my breathing start to get slower. Other people? They shut down. When someone starts yelling at them, they either stop talking, start crying, or just need to get out as soon as possible.
People react to things differently. Just because some dude online doesn't react the way they think you should does not make you right. This particular brand of victim shaming is something the people on this forum should be well above, to be honest.
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The two biggest mysteries I'm seeing here are A) why people are getting up in arms and throwing around "victim shaming" because somebody has managed to somehow not develop a reasonable response to random assholes and B ) why this is being discussed here.
For A, some people are reacting like we're piling criticism on a rape victim for dressing a certain way or something, and it's ridiculous. Put yourself on a site where anybody can publicly comment, and either you need to deal with shit, or you need to turn it off. Recognizing whether or not you can handle it is part of being an adult; if the guy has an actual quirk or disorder that prevents that, then he shouldn't be placing himself in the line of fire. We, here, are not the problem, and people need stop acting like we are. If people want to go preach to the unwatched internet masses about not being jerks, they can go ahead, but none of us are sending this guy hate mail. This is not a thing where a guy has to choose between a shitty boss and a livelihood, it's a situation where a guy has to choose between ignoring idiots or not ignoring them.
For B, this is pretty clearly something that belongs over in Debate and Discourse, because a dude's crappy ability to handle assholes is not really an Industry Topic, and we have enough trouble keeping this thread on-topic as it is.
If I started getting shit like that in my Twitter feed, I'd probably freak the fuck out too. Part of me would like to say that I'd disconnect for a while and let it blow over, but I also know that I would not act rationally.
I have a tough time imagining the sheltered life where somebody has managed to never encounter morons and idiots.
Yes, the hysterical remarks about pulling the game are idiotic. Yes, it is also stupid for somebody to get themselves incredibly worked-up over them.
If regular folks had shit-fits everyone was an asshole to them in person, most people wouldn't get through a single day without getting in a fistfight. I honestly have no clue what people expect out of this. The internet to be rational, I guess? Because that's just never happening. So either he can figure out how to shrug off asshole remarks from anonymous people like a regular person, or he can continue looking like an idiot by trying to fight with them. When you argue with a fool, and so on.
I've gotten death threats just for playing games. I then deleted the messages and blocked or muted the sender and carried on with my day. Assholes are not a new phenomenon, and neither is realizing they aren't worth your time. The whole thing is a complete non-issue, aside from whether or not this guy ripped off assets from other games. I don't even know why the guy's reaction is continuing to be discussed.
When people get in my face at work, I laugh. It's a defensive reflex, something that helps lighten my mood so that I don't go the other reflexive route, taking a swing at them. Even though I'm laughing, I'm also shaking. I feel my hands tense up, my chest tighten, and my breathing start to get slower. Other people? They shut down. When someone starts yelling at them, they either stop talking, start crying, or just need to get out as soon as possible.
People react to things differently. Just because some dude online doesn't react the way they think you should does not make you right. This particular brand of victim shaming is something the people on this forum should be well above, to be honest.
You said this better than I could. I wasn't sure I wanted to say anything at all, actually, as this line of discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere good. I just am shocked at how unkind some people are being in here. Why can't one just assume that this guy knows his own life and his own situation well enough to make a decision for himself on how to handle this stuff?
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I just realized we have a thread suited to the Flappy Bird crap already. I've bumped it up but will link it here for everyone's discourse and pleasure.
Capcom's mobile business has suffered this fiscal year, with revenue dropping by 40 per cent at the nine-month point.
In the first nine-months of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2014, Capcom's Mobile Contents business earned ¥5.2 billion ($51 million) in revenue, down from ¥8.6 billion ($84 million) in the same period the previous year. That's a drop of more than 39 per cent, and a clear sign of struggle in a business that, thanks to the success of Smurf's Village, once showed great promise for the company's future.
In material distributed to investors, Capcom acknowledged the lack of successful titles in a market that yields high profits. Among others, It is planning to release Street Fighter Battle Combination on iOS before the close of the fiscal year.
Overall, Capcom's Digital Contents division - which includes mobile - showed signs of improvements, earning ¥56 billion ($549 million) revenue, 13 per cent more than the previous year. Digital sales - including DLC and full-game downloads - also improved, hitting ¥7.7 billion ($75 million), 10 per cent higher than forecast for the entire year. However, the cost of doing business was higher, and the division's operating income fell 5.5 per cent to ¥7.3 billion ($72 million).
Capcom's strongest performer was Monster Hunter 4, which has now sold 4 million copies despite only being available in Japan. Dead Rising 3, an Xbox One launch title, sold 1 million copies, with a further 200,000 sales expected by the end of the fiscal year.
Across the whole company, Capcom earned ¥75.2 billion ($737 million) in revenue, up 3.5 per cent, and ¥5.9 billion ($58 million) in net profit, down 10.3 per cent. The company also benefited from the favourable exchange rate, to the tune of ¥662 million ($6.5 million).
Last month, Capcom CEO Kenzo Tsujimoto pledged to hire 100 new developers every year for the next five years in an effort to reinvigorate the business.
He's making the decision that makes the most instinctual sense by getting rid of the thing that caused this, he's not thinking farther than that because that is a lot of stress to deal with.
I understand his position but at the same time I see the internet as a stress you have to actively choose to impose upon yourself.
He could just not go online for a while. Or just not click on those threads that mention his game, or whatever. I guess a lot of people don't see that as an option these days.
It's not just the internet. I'm sure he has reporters bugging him constantly.
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Absolutely - this is solved by sending a mass email to his friends and family informing them that he is changing his email address / twitter / facebook pages to something private, and just ignoring the other ones for however long it takes for the internet to have moved on from his game.
I cannot even begin to imagine pulling the plug on a thing that generates a million bucks every three weeks, that people seem to like for some reason.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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Because he didn't plan for it at all. Like, he went from making a dumb game on a lark to suddenly people on all sides hyper analyzing his game and making personal attacks. I'm not at all surprised he doesn't have the clarity of mind to abandon his social media because it wasn't a thing he would have ever considered doing prior to the popularity explosion. He's making the decision that makes the most instinctual sense by getting rid of the thing that caused this, he's not thinking farther than that because that is a lot of stress to deal with.
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I understand his position but at the same time I see the internet as a stress you have to actively choose to impose upon yourself.
He could just not go online for a while. Or just not click on those threads that mention his game, or whatever. I guess a lot of people don't see that as an option these days.
I don't think he really did anything wrong here except make a polished version of an already popular game, and then decicded he didn't like the attention.
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"Look and feel" is a real term used in copyright infringement. Whether it's ripped or not directly, that is still something to contend with.
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right but, while two elements of the game have similar aesthetics, the game around it is nothing like mario. where do you draw the line. does every game with gold rings steal from sonic? does every game that remotely emulated the style of mario fall under this? because if so braid stole a lot from mario.
this sounds just like the candy crush situation except that nintendo somehow has copyrighted green pipes.
that kotaku article accusing it of 'ripping off' mario art had to change the title for being misleading. you can make homages to mario without directly stealing anything.
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Welcome to 2014. Tried to do any software work that didn't include the internet?
To put it less snarky, this mindset is victim blaming.
It's his fault for going on the internet. He should change his behavior if he doesn't want other people to give him stress.
But is it really a romantic comedy just because the romance arcs are hilariously, laughably bad?
Sure, I get amusement out of movies so bad they're good, but I don't call them comedies.
When you saw Flappy Bird in action, wasn't your first thought, "Hey, those are the pipes from Mario Bros."? I did. Those particular green pipes are Nintendo's pipes.
Man, I'm not even trying to justify it nor do I even really care, I'm just saying it's a real thing that could be a reason. That's it. I don't want to have this debate at all.
games reference other games all the time. the pipes in flappy bird and the warp pipes in mario are functionally very different. the obstacles in flappy bird could be anything. they choose a retro aesthetic and the pipes are simply a nod to mario bros. I don't see how it's stealing if they created new assets. if it was a mario clone and the pipes literally worked the same and were lifted straight from a nintendo game, I would recognize that as stealing.
retro city rampage is a take-off of classic GTA gameplay with nods to a ton of retro games. is it stealing to reference the tons of retro titles mentioned in that game? I don't think so. the line between inspiration and stealing is pretty clear.
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Just cash your checks and enjoy the windfall, dude, nobody will care in 48 hours.
Of all places, I didn't expect these forums to be antagonistic about his decision.
He could have strong social anxiety and the weight of the attention is not worth it to him
Maybe he was in a bad place in his life and the attention is hitting at a really really wrong time.
Or maybe he has a lot of pride in his ability as a programmer/designer and getting attention for something he doesn't deem worth it feels awful to him.
You can act all internet macho about it not affecting you if you were in his shoes.... but you are not. The internet was collectively shitting on him and theres plenty of reasons (in addition to the ones above) he would not have wanted to deal with it anymore.
But feel free to project that he's a delicate flower, only existing to provide impactful gameplay experiences that nobody can ever know about.
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If I started getting shit like that in my Twitter feed, I'd probably freak the fuck out too. Part of me would like to say that I'd disconnect for a while and let it blow over, but I also know that I would not act rationally.
Also threatening to hunt him down and kill him because he's pulling the game.
Or threatening to kill themselves, along with a picture of them with a gun in their own mouth.
I have a tough time imagining the sheltered life where somebody has managed to never encounter morons and idiots.
Yes, the hysterical remarks about pulling the game are idiotic. Yes, it is also stupid for somebody to get themselves incredibly worked-up over them.
If regular folks had shit-fits everyone was an asshole to them in person, most people wouldn't get through a single day without getting in a fistfight. I honestly have no clue what people expect out of this. The internet to be rational, I guess? Because that's just never happening. So either he can figure out how to shrug off asshole remarks from anonymous people like a regular person, or he can continue looking like an idiot by trying to fight with them. When you argue with a fool, and so on.
I've gotten death threats just for playing games. I then deleted the messages and blocked or muted the sender and carried on with my day. Assholes are not a new phenomenon, and neither is realizing they aren't worth your time. The whole thing is a complete non-issue, aside from whether or not this guy ripped off assets from other games. I don't even know why the guy's reaction is continuing to be discussed.
I don't think you quite understand the volume of hate he's getting. I get that, it can be difficult to comprehend getting a never ending stream of shit thrown at you but don't try and act like a death threat here or there is comparable, he's getting them on the level of ten more for every one he deletes. That's not something easy to move on from.
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Edit: to be slightly more constructive, maybe the shut/child part could be replaced with 'fucking sack up and get your ass some empathy, you child.'
When people get in my face at work, I laugh. It's a defensive reflex, something that helps lighten my mood so that I don't go the other reflexive route, taking a swing at them. Even though I'm laughing, I'm also shaking. I feel my hands tense up, my chest tighten, and my breathing start to get slower. Other people? They shut down. When someone starts yelling at them, they either stop talking, start crying, or just need to get out as soon as possible.
People react to things differently. Just because some dude online doesn't react the way they think you should does not make you right. This particular brand of victim shaming is something the people on this forum should be well above, to be honest.
For A, some people are reacting like we're piling criticism on a rape victim for dressing a certain way or something, and it's ridiculous. Put yourself on a site where anybody can publicly comment, and either you need to deal with shit, or you need to turn it off. Recognizing whether or not you can handle it is part of being an adult; if the guy has an actual quirk or disorder that prevents that, then he shouldn't be placing himself in the line of fire. We, here, are not the problem, and people need stop acting like we are. If people want to go preach to the unwatched internet masses about not being jerks, they can go ahead, but none of us are sending this guy hate mail. This is not a thing where a guy has to choose between a shitty boss and a livelihood, it's a situation where a guy has to choose between ignoring idiots or not ignoring them.
For B, this is pretty clearly something that belongs over in Debate and Discourse, because a dude's crappy ability to handle assholes is not really an Industry Topic, and we have enough trouble keeping this thread on-topic as it is.
You said this better than I could. I wasn't sure I wanted to say anything at all, actually, as this line of discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere good. I just am shocked at how unkind some people are being in here. Why can't one just assume that this guy knows his own life and his own situation well enough to make a decision for himself on how to handle this stuff?
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http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/181992/enough-is-enough-social-engineering-among-our-peers-flappy-bird/p1
That said, enough of that game and the internet drama here.
Edit - And I stress that last sentence because this wasn't really industry / business talk.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-02-07-capcoms-mobile-revenue-falls-40-per-cent
It's not just the internet. I'm sure he has reporters bugging him constantly.