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Ending amicably

Totes an altTotes an alt Registered User regular
This is hard and sad. I've been in a relationship for the past three years and I think it has run its course. One of the major reasons are that instead of encouraging each other to be the best people we can be, we seem to have fallen into a pattern of letting each other off the hook when we're lazy/slacking/making excuses. This has been going on for basically the duration of the relationship and shows no sign of stopping or changing. We have both at times tried to help motivate the other but I don't think we're good for each other that way. Another major reason is that my sexual interest has been on a decline for over a year. I know (because he's told me) that he's not satisfied with the level of sex in our relationship but I'm becoming less and less attracted to him in that way as time goes on to the point where I would be happier if we just didn't do more than cuddle any more. That's not what he wants and really it's not what I want either but the spark has been fading for over a year and both of our best efforts have done exactly nothing to bring it back. Also, I want kids and he doesn't, so that's a huge thing I've realized will never change. There's more but I think that paints the picture in broad strokes.

The problem is we still very much like each other. If I could hate him, this would be easy. If he had a glaring personality flaw or we fought a lot, I could explain it and we could either work on it or end for a good reason. But there is no good reason. I just don't love him any more. I recognize that there is no easy way to say that to someone. I would like eventually to be friends but I am equally aware that for at least the first few months after this happens, we should try not to see each other. We live together at this point so I know I have to move out asap which is really hard given my financial situation but it would be using him if I stayed for a reason like rent. There's a spare room so we won't have to deal with anyone sleeping on the couch until I find a place. The reason it has to be me that moves out is we live in a house owned by his mother.

Since I have the next week off of school, I'm planning on doing this then. I know it's Valentine's Day that week but he's never cared about that. We've never had Valentines plans so I'm not worried that he'll have broken the pattern this year and have a surprise planned for me or anything like that.

There's no easy way, but how do I do this? I'm an emotional wreck over it but I refuse to stay because it's hard to leave or to spare his (or my) feelings. Is there anything I can say that will make this hurt as little as possible? Since I'm the one doing the breaking up, is a renewal of contact solely his decision once he feels enough time has passed? I want to leave the door open for continuing to be friends eventually, especially considering that over the past few months we've been living together more as room mates than lovers anyway. Plus most of our friends are mutual so I don't want either of us left out of things because we're too immature to be in the same room together after a reasonable grieving period has passed.

Sorry for rambling. I just want to leave as kindly as possible. He's a wonderful person, we just shouldn't be a couple any longer. We could both be so much happier with other people or even alone. The guilt over these feelings/lack of appropriate feelings alone is making me miserable.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    There's nothing much to do other than tell him how you feel. Tell him you feel like you're not in love with him anymore.

    I was in the same situation last year, and a lot of the things you say are similar. And we're actually pretty close to the date she dropped the bomb on me. There was nothing specifically that was wrong with our relationship, she just didn't feel in love anymore; she didn't feel like this was the relationship she wanted anymore. What followed was a sad and painful conversation. We ended up "trying to fix it" for a few months, even attending a couple's therapy. But looking back on it, all it did was adding a few months of severe stress where I constantly flipped between optimistic and pessimistic about the future of our relationship.

    So at the point where you're at right now, you have to just end it and don't accept any deal to try and fix it. Once you're thinking in those ways there's nothing that either of you can do that will suddenly clear those kind of negatives thoughts from your mind. Who knows maybe sometime in the future you might reconnect but it's not something that can happen right now.

    I was very sad that my relationship ended and it still makes me sad thinking about it but I don't have any resentment towards my ex. I understand that you can't force feelings and if they're not there anymore well, there's nothing to do but accept your fate and move on.

    So, just sit down with him and tell him. Expect a long and emotional conversation but you can't avoid it. Already have an exit strategy planned out. A friend or relative you can stay at until you can make arrangements for your living situation.

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  • TaekoTaeko Miami, FLRegistered User regular
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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Taeko and Fireflash both have some spot-on advice.

    Trying to break up with someone 'gently', in my experience, tends to be the most unkind way to deal with them. I speak from the position of someone who has been broken up with a lot - sometimes people shut down the relationship with me in ways that made me tense and worried, and then only after a few days (or even more!) of that stressful limbo relationship, did they finally come out and tell me the situation (or in one case of a guy keeping me in non-communication limbo for a month, I eventually had to break up with him to give myself closure, which I suppose was what he wanted, but what an asshole!). The absolute kindest thing you can do for him is to tell him straight as soon as you can. You should make it clear that breaking up is non-negotiable, and not something he can talk you out of, or that you might change your mind about if he 'tries harder' or some other nonsense.

    "excuse my French
    But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
    - Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
  • Totes an altTotes an alt Registered User regular
    You're all right. As with many advice seekers I think I may just have wanted to hear the obvious things from someone else.

    I don't think he'll try to change my mind or show much outward emotion at all. He's stoic to a fault, this will probably be much harder on me outwardly than it is on him. What happens to his insides will no longer be my concern.

    I just talked to a friend and I have at least one couch to crash on, and very likely will have a few more offers. I will do this, it will be very soon because now that I've decided it feels cruel and wrong to keep up the pretense that everything is okay.

    @taeko I hope this more closely resembles your "still best friends" scenario but you're right, I can't fear the alternative. The fact is I'm not happy with the current state of things so they have to change somehow.

  • TaekoTaeko Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
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  • TaekoTaeko Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
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  • Totes an altTotes an alt Registered User regular
    That was pretty much the plan on mutual friends. I want both of us to be able to keep our social contacts and as far as I can see there are no sides to take. That said, the only people I plan to talk to about my ex/feelings are non-mutual friends and possibly my mom.

    And yes, there will be a lot of time between the breakup and hopeful friendship. No Facebook, no asking mutual friends how he's doing, nothing. If I make the breakup in any way messy, future friendship becomes way less likely and that's the opposite of what I want.

  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Do it now, since you've decided. Valentines day may mean nothing to him, but it probably will if you break up on or shortly after it. He might even go to special effort to rekindle your relationship, so do you really want to be at a nice restaurant thinking "This is a sham."?

  • k-mapsk-maps I wish I could find the Karnaugh map for love. 2^<3Registered User regular
    All solid advice. However, if he happened to just be hit by a bus, his mother just died, or he has like the bar exam the morning after. It can wait a little bit. There are some extenuating circumstances to this rule.

  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    Do it now, since you've decided. Valentines day may mean nothing to him, but it probably will if you break up on or shortly after it. He might even go to special effort to rekindle your relationship, so do you really want to be at a nice restaurant thinking "This is a sham."?
    Cannot agree more on the timing here.

    If I'm a guy who regularly blows off Valentine's Day, and you dump me shortly thereafter, I'm definitely going to think that was a factor (regardless of what you may say to the contrary). I may therefore get it in my head that trying to dial up the romance might get you back.

    On the flip side, if you break up with me before Valentine's Day, that's a pretty clear message that you're not at all interested in being romanced; you're just done.

  • Totes an altTotes an alt Registered User regular
    Oh it definitely won't be after Valentines Day. If I did it tonight, tomorrow, or Saturday it would be the middle of the night (he gets home from work after midnight), it's freaking cold here, and I don't have a car so late night transit to my friend's house would be awful. I don't want to say on Sunday "hey, I'm breaking up with you. Well, have a good day at work!" so I'm pretty settled on Monday.

    I feel this strange mix of relief of having made the decision, dread (but not "I could possibly back out of this" type fear) of going through with it, and shame that I'm having all these practical thoughts. I'm half falling apart, half meticulously planning. It's odd.

    Basically, I don't want there to be much of anything left to say. I want to be able to go with whatever I pack and then grab things as I'm able while he's at work. I will so desperately want to see him so I want no reason to see him.

  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Having been the one on the toher side of this: just say it. Do it today. Don't drag it out or even worse, or even worse keep on slowly withdrawing and never giving a good explaination, or even worse than that, try and manipulate him into being the one to end it so that you don't have to feel guilty.

    I got 6 or 8 months of that treatment, and it completely wrecked me for years.

    If you ever believed that he had any genuine commitment to you then you owe him at least this much: tell. him. it's. over. No false hope. No hints. No bullshit excuses.

  • Totes an altTotes an alt Registered User regular
    I wanted to thank you all. I talked to him on Monday as I said I would. I didn't delay or draw it out. But I will admit he came out with the response I didn't think existed that could make me change my mind. He finally said the words I already suspected to be true but didn't think he was ready to face. He said "I think I have clinical depression. I need help. I will get help," and then he made an appointment. I don't think I'm a sucker or being untrue to myself in any way by deciding to stay. If he follows through on this, which I have reasons to believe he will that I won't get into here, then I truly believe that we have a good chance and 3 years is worth fighting for.

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I really hope it works out.

    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • Jean Claude Van CalmJean Claude Van Calm 'sup? Awesome Possum.Registered User regular
    I also hope it works out. I think this is better anyways. While I agree with everyone before me that "Once you start thinkin it's over, it's probably over", I also think that basing the importance and survivability of a relationship on whether or not there's still a "spark" is pretty silly and destined for failure. It sounds like you're on the right track of working together to make things better and to me that's what it's really about. Best of luck (and a little work)!

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  • bloatedhippobloatedhippo Registered User regular
    Good luck :)

  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    I sincerely hope you're not talking yourself into something that may just loop back to the same thoughts you've already had. The whole you wanting kids and him not thing is usually an absolute deal breaker, but not knowing how old the two of you are it becomes difficult to say whether his mind might change. It's also entirely possible his depression makes him think he'll be a lousy father, which would lead him to not want kids, so hopefully it's that, and everything works out.

    My mom has been through relationships before where she she wants to break up with someone, some grand gesture is made and they get back together, only for 6 months later the same issues from before crop back up. The sting isn't lessened, and it just made her feel like those last 6 months were an utter sham.

  • CptKemzikCptKemzik Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    As someone who is in a relationship with a S/O (four years in 1.5 weeks!) that has to manage clinical depression I will say that it is definitely worth fighting to keep the relationship. She will still struggle with it from time to time, and she was getting help with it on a substantial level for about 2-3 years before I met her; I can only imagine what your S/O must be going through just realizing he may have it now.

    It demands a great amount of patience, but it is not insurmountable!

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  • JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    I wanted to thank you all. I talked to him on Monday as I said I would. I didn't delay or draw it out. But I will admit he came out with the response I didn't think existed that could make me change my mind. He finally said the words I already suspected to be true but didn't think he was ready to face. He said "I think I have clinical depression. I need help. I will get help," and then he made an appointment. I don't think I'm a sucker or being untrue to myself in any way by deciding to stay. If he follows through on this, which I have reasons to believe he will that I won't get into here, then I truly believe that we have a good chance and 3 years is worth fighting for.

    I don't think you're a sucker. I recently (like last month) finally set up an appointment with a doctor to work on what I think is probably depression so I kinda get what it means to make that step. The very act of confronting it instead of just ploughing along has already made a difference. And the fucked up thing is that I've been feeling like this for years without realizing there was anything abnormal, so it's entirely possible your dude has too and a lot of problems of the relationship are partly due to it.

    A big help to me is having people I love being supportive.

  • Totes an altTotes an alt Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I sincerely hope you're not talking yourself into something that may just loop back to the same thoughts you've already had. The whole you wanting kids and him not thing is usually an absolute deal breaker, but not knowing how old the two of you are it becomes difficult to say whether his mind might change. It's also entirely possible his depression makes him think he'll be a lousy father, which would lead him to not want kids, so hopefully it's that, and everything works out.

    My mom has been through relationships before where she she wants to break up with someone, some grand gesture is made and they get back together, only for 6 months later the same issues from before crop back up. The sting isn't lessened, and it just made her feel like those last 6 months were an utter sham.

    I definitely thought about this and we talked about it. It turns out that he sees the world as an almost entirely hopeless place, one that he would never want to inflict on another living being by being his or her father. He told me that if he could start to see how there is hope for the future, kids would be a much less terrifying, possibly even welcome idea. I'm 27 right now and still in school so kids aren't part of my plan for at least another 5 years so I'm in no rush - if he after a year feeling better about life in general but still never wants to be a father then I won't see the year as wasted but instead I'll know that it's really him not wanting kids, not a depressed, hopeless version of him.

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