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[DC Comics]: Crisis on Infinite #Rebirths

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Venditti is a good writer though

    might sound way worse than it is

  • RansRans Registered User regular
    It's part of what I think is a storyline about a future Flash visiting the present, so you know, it's not Barry True Flash seriously becoming a murderer.

  • RansRans Registered User regular
    I picked up Superman Doomed #2 at my LCS and my LCS said that I "wasn't the only one to skip my regular books" during Future's End month. We'll see if any of the comics sites pick up any stories about actual sales in the next couple of weeks.

  • TairuTairu Registered User regular
    I ended up picking up Futures End: Wonder Woman because they put it in my pull and I left it sitting there instead of putting it back (I felt guilty).

    Haven't read it yet, it's just sitting there

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I grabbed Futures End Harley Quinn. I honestly have no excuse - she's my guilty pleasure comic that I read solely because its juvenile sense of humor appeals to the teenager in me. I haven't read it yet, except to see that the tropical setting looks really great.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    I grabbed Futures End Harley Quinn. I honestly have no excuse - she's my guilty pleasure comic that I read solely because its juvenile sense of humor appeals to the teenager in me. I haven't read it yet, except to see that the tropical setting looks really great.

    well then you'll love the upcoming Scratch n Sniff issue, with the special america-only marijuana scent

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  • Worsel96Worsel96 A Castle in the SkyRegistered User regular
    Picked up the rest of the GL: Future's End comics. Red Lanterns and Sinestro had good stories and I enjoyed them. Guy's new look in RL was particularly great. New Guardians on the other hand, had Kyle making the same mistake he had already learned from the first time he was Ion, though taking it to more of an extreme and thus felt out of character. However, with the New 52 continuity, that probably never happened so he's free to do it all over again.

    Parts of GLC were good and I liked the idea of John as the guy you call in when you absolutely need to get a dirty job done.

    Also read the first two parts of Godhead. I'm interested to see how it goes as I like the New Gods and it seems like it will involve Kyle pretty heavily, which I can get behind. I am getting a bit of event fatigue on the title as it seems like every time one ends, another begins.

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Urgh, Future's End month actually worked even though sales of the weekly have been poor.

    Although I guess we don't know if fans actually bought the books that the retailers ordered in large numbers. Hmm...

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  • cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Urgh, Future's End month actually worked even though sales of the weekly have been poor.

    Although I guess we don't know if fans actually bought the books that the retailers ordered in large numbers. Hmm...

    I know my LCS seemed to have piles of them left over.

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    So, I picked up Lobo #1 and Gotham Academy #1, after many months (maybe even a couple years?) of not reading anything from DC, but digital series.

    Lobo is an interesting beast. The art's really solid, with pencils by Reilly Brown, and Cullen Bunn's set-up is interesting. Eight of the universe's most skilled mercenaries, assassins, and specialists have been dispatched to kill the same target. Lobo is hired to kill the killers, before they can finish their jobs. I really enjoy superhero comics that come packaged with that kind of episodic structure. Lobo's going to have to knock off all these interesting mini-bosses, before he gets to tackle the end-boss, and advance the plot.

    I like that. But, New Lobo, as a character? Holy shit, it's dire. He's a former bodyguard/sensitive artist, with a tragic back-story and dopey weapons (He should hang out with Marvel's Wraith), who uses slang like, "Sorry, not sorry." He even steals some characterization from Classic Lobo. You know how Lobo used to have a weird affectation for space dolphins? Well, New Lobo won't kill dogs. I think that bit of characterization really represents the change in the character, as a whole. It takes something that was quirky and weird, and makes it generic, and bland.

    Gotham Academy was okay. Not bad, just sort of inoffensive. The characterization's good. The two leads, Olive and Maps, are interesting enough, and the Academy's headmaster is rocking a bit of a Professor Snape vibe, that appeals to me. And Karl Kerschl's art is super pretty, as always.

    But, the first issue didn't really tell me what this series is going to be about. It's like the reverse Lobo #1. All the characters are interesting and likeable, but there was no real mission statement, to hook me into the series, besides a generic tease at the end.

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    January 2015 Solicits - Contain Spoilers about Robin.

    The solicits spoil the new robin.
    It appears to be Damian again, who I hope is back to be in a Tomasi and Gleason title for years and years and years.

    Soule is off Red Lanterns after Godhead, replaced by Landry Walker.

    Also, that month's issue of Multiversity is a guidebook, which makes me wonder if there are 10 issues now, or if this was always intended?

    BC posted an article saying that writers have been asked to finish their stories by April. But we knew that already, and a bunch of writers (including Snyder and Soule, and some of the other dudes writing Batman Eternal) have talked about it before. With Lemire doing a ton of stuff for Valiant, Dark Horse, Image, and Marvel, I would expect him to wrap up Justice League United and leave DC during the whatever event.

    Everything seems to be staying the course until the April/May event thing, including some titles that are selling in embarrassingly low numbers. We're probably going to get New 52 Now! or something in June. But there's no one left to write anything, and I can't think of any big surprise names they could tap.

  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    January 2015 Solicits - Contain Spoilers about Robin.

    The solicits spoil the new robin.
    It appears to be Damian again, who I hope is back to be in a Tomasi and Gleason title for years and years and years.

    Soule is off Red Lanterns after Godhead, replaced by Landry Walker.

    Also, that month's issue of Multiversity is a guidebook, which makes me wonder if there are 10 issues now, or if this was always intended?

    BC posted an article saying that writers have been asked to finish their stories by April. But we knew that already, and a bunch of writers (including Snyder and Soule, and some of the other dudes writing Batman Eternal) have talked about it before. With Lemire doing a ton of stuff for Valiant, Dark Horse, Image, and Marvel, I would expect him to wrap up Justice League United and leave DC during the whatever event.

    Everything seems to be staying the course until the April/May event thing, including some titles that are selling in embarrassingly low numbers. We're probably going to get New 52 Now! or something in June. But there's no one left to write anything, and I can't think of any big surprise names they could tap.

    also for the new robin
    it appears he has super powers now

    though the having to have all their stories / arcs ending before the April / May thing seems super worrying to me, since the last time they did it, Flashpoint/New 52 happened .

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  • InvectivusInvectivus Registered User regular
    Why couldn't they leave that little shit dead...that's when he was the best Robin ever.

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  • RansRans Registered User regular
    Soule had talked about staying on Red Lanterns through March, but obviously that's changed. I assume his workload at Marvel forced him to have to drop something. Also, I'm guessing that Red Lanterns ends in March. DC doesn't usually pop a relatively unknown on a title with little fanfare of "bold new direction" unless it means they're writing a few issues to finish the title out.

    It's time for Red Lanterns to end, too. Soule redeemed the title to be fun with something to say, but that story has been told now. Time to let it go and do something else.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Rans wrote: »
    Soule had talked about staying on Red Lanterns through March, but obviously that's changed. I assume his workload at Marvel forced him to have to drop something. Also, I'm guessing that Red Lanterns ends in March. DC doesn't usually pop a relatively unknown on a title with little fanfare of "bold new direction" unless it means they're writing a few issues to finish the title out.

    It's time for Red Lanterns to end, too. Soule redeemed the title to be fun with something to say, but that story has been told now. Time to let it go and do something else.

    Yeah. As much as I love the GL titles (they got me back into comics around the time of Blackest Night), I'll be scaling down to just GL and GLC after the skip months. The others kind of feel like they've ran their course.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    You see that the comics sites have started calling DCs "we need to cover a few months while we move to LA so we are pre writing and producing an event" event the "the band aid".

    :D I liked it.

    Also they told everyone to wrap up all stories by next year. Like everyone at once. Are we re-re-rebooting?

    Strange days.

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  • AspectVoidAspectVoid Registered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    You see that the comics sites have started calling DCs "we need to cover a few months while we move" event the "band aid".

    :D I liked it.

    Also they told everyone to wrap up all storied by next year. Like everyone at once. Are we re-re-rebooting?

    Strange days.

    Not just next year, but next April, which coincides with what should be the end of their next big event (assuming it doesn't get the delay issues their last event had). Sounds to me like either a Reboot or a Marvel-Style new Number 1s.

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  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    AspectVoid wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    You see that the comics sites have started calling DCs "we need to cover a few months while we move" event the "band aid".

    :D I liked it.

    Also they told everyone to wrap up all storied by next year. Like everyone at once. Are we re-re-rebooting?

    Strange days.

    Not just next year, but next April, which coincides with what should be the end of their next big event (assuming it doesn't get the delay issues their last event had). Sounds to me like either a Reboot or a Marvel-Style new Number 1s.

    I'm guessing full reboot. I imagine that it will allow DC to tinker with the comics to align them more with the just announced film universe, assuming that DC editorial has an inside line on how the movie studio plans to develop the characters.

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    If they do another reboot I'm done with DC for good.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Bleeding Cool is now saying that editorial wants new pitches with a variety of tone and art styles, and are promising more freedom to writers after the skip months, noticing that more recent titles with increased creative freedoms like Harley Quinn and the Batgirl relaunch have been big successes while the rest of the line is tanking.

    I would like to believe this is true if only because it's common sense and fans have been yelling it for three years now. At the same time, I was going to use those skip months to cut the last of my DC chaff and end up just reading a couple Bats and Superman titles, Flash, Green Lantern, and Justice League. And I'm still so burnt by the last three years that it's hard for me to trust them, even if they do make a try at this, and even if I plan on picking up Arkham Manor this week in belief that it'll be another of these early titles with the increased freedoms.

  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    You and everyone else hadji.

    This could be a forced move- on dc... the heads may not even like it. But I mean... DC literally was squaking about a 'house' art style; meaning it all looks the same. Sales numbers say its time for radically different and thats good.

    if you look at the comics sub-reddit some days dc is a bad word. No good buzz. They have to do something major and have burned out rebooting. So make 6 Hawkeye rip offs with quirky art and character stories- some of them will be bound to be good. But they HAVE to change up.

    Only thing ive been following is RLs and soule is a marvel man now D:

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    The problem with this idea is that DC has no good will to stand on with any lasting fun book because their universe was remade to simply be too cool for that, man.

    This is what the Batgirl fresh breath praise felt like; so Babs is going to be happy for a bit. Until the next Apokolips thing and she gets double crippled or killed off because BVS is coming up and Carrie Kelly needs to show up.

    But this is, I think, the third time DC has said "no for real guys we listen to you we'll give you some breathing room"

  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    I haven't been following DC news lately, but I notice that the Flash cameo'd in a ton of those solicited covers.

    Is it some kind of special Flash month or is this a hint that they'll be doing something with Flashpoint?

    Really though, DC already lost me when they did New 52, and I don't have faith they'd be willing to do anything to get me buying their books again. Even if they did a "deboot" back to the Pre-New 52 universe, they'd probably try and pick-and-choose New 52 events to keep canon and make things a confusing mess, plus they'd still need to clean house with their higher-ups to change the overall tone their books have had these last few years. Also, there's no way they'd let Barbara Gordon be Oracle again.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Lars wrote: »
    I haven't been following DC news lately, but I notice that the Flash cameo'd in a ton of those solicited covers.

    Is it some kind of special Flash month or is this a hint that they'll be doing something with Flashpoint?

    It's the Flash's 75th Anniversary

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Arkham Manor isn't completely there yet, but it's well on its way. Also, it's the type of solo Batman story I really enjoy the most, and it's got a perfect atmosphere for this time of year.

    I dig it, and I'm jazzed to see where it goes. I do worry a little about the way it treats mental illness, though, but maybe that will clear up a bit now that the basic premise has been established.

    And if you're unsure about picking it up, here's part of the premise that hadn't been mentioned directly until this week:
    Batman has crafted a new cover identity, and has gone undercover, Matches Malone style, in Arkham.

  • SagrothSagroth Registered User regular
    I'd be really excited about DC letting writers cut loose and have freedom...

    ...if, y'know, most of their writers hadn't already quit.

    I mean, there's a few good ones left still, I guess.

    But the "band aid" term seems pretty accurate for DC right now.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    The best Wonder Woman run in history is over. :(

    Not sure if I should immediately tale it off my list or give the new writer a chance.

    Green Arrow went from amazing to complete shit and pandering to tv-show fans After Lemire's run ended. That was a huge disappointment. Not sure if I'm willing to chance a similar drop in quality.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    There's been one issue of Green Arrow post-Lemire so far and I wouldn't call it "complete shit". If anything, it's a return to old Green Arrow antics. Lemire's run, while enjoyable, was just Immortal Iron Fist starring Green Arrow

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  • AspectVoidAspectVoid Registered User regular
    So, DC has decided the best thing they can do next summer is put forty of their titles on hold and replace them with two issue mini-series that once again try to explain what the hell happened in the past of the Nu52 Universe. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Convergence.
    Convergence spins out of the April 1 finales of the Earth 2: World's End and The New 52: Futures End weekly series. The alien supervillain Brainiac has trapped cities from various timelines and planets that have ended, brought them in domes to a planet outside of time and space, and is now opening them for a great experiment to see what happens when all these folks meet.

    And there's the fact that people have also queried them about what happened to certain favorite characters and teams such as Donna Troy, Blue Beetle and the Justice Society of America, and why they haven't been reintroduced while others have.

    "What we're really addressing is they all exist and have existed and exist within the framework of the New 52," Lee explains. "Convergence is in many ways the most meta epic event we've done."

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Man, I really want to make a Dead Space joke now.

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  • glithertglithert Registered User regular
    This whole thing smells to me. I feel like the justice league is going to get offed or something and replaced with the post-crisis versions of the characters or some other kind of dumb soft reboot horseshit. When all they really need to do is "reboot" by just starting to write good stories and pretending 90% of the new 52 never happened. Whatever this thing is, it's completely unnecessary. Continuity is a problem in the new 52, sure, but how big of a problem is it really when you can just retcon it all?

    "Hey, remember all that crap about 5 robins in five years and superman is a mopey sad-sack that spies on people's texts and joker had a face-cut-offgasm? Never happened."

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    It never ceases to confuse me that the major publishers seem to not get that continuity is a two-way street. Like, if you begin writing well the people reading will just do the clean-up for you. The idea that you need to get all the pieces lined up in the perfect order so that fans can jump in is silly. No one reading like 20 books in the DCU is going to have an aneurysm because you don't match everything perfectly. They're going to invent the interstitial bits that make it make sense to them.

    So long as tentpoles like "Gotham and Metropolis currently exist" are in place, the details can really be left to the damn writers.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Unbelievable. This might be Didio's worst idea yet. It says a lot that no one at Warner's seems to know the comics market well enough to stop decisions like this, even after sales have been rapidly atrophying since the start of the New 52 and are back to where they were before it happened.

    They're literally going to cover their entire publishing line for 2 months with a story that's spinning out of two other weekly series that have had disappointing sales. Retailers are going to probably end up buying the main Convergence title in high numbers just because there isn't really an alternative, but I can't imagine sales of the tie-ins being very high.


  • Bobby DerieBobby Derie Registered User regular
    The sad part is, DC has done this better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_DC_Universe

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  • glithertglithert Registered User regular
    So should we start a betting pool on what exactly is going to get retconned and how?

    I bet five internet dollars that they will make a half-assed attempt to bring back hypertime.

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  • RansRans Registered User regular
    I skipped September / Futures End month. Looks like I'm skipping April and May / Convergence months as well.

    My poor, poor LCS.

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    So not only does every story arc of every book end in April, but then they stop all of them to do a line wide event.

    How nice of them to give a "you can drop all your DC books and have closure" point.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    They couldn't even make what they carried over make sense in the DCnU, no way they can include the other stuff.

    God, that it took three years to try and fix this, it's going to be Bendis' bad GOTG Star-Lord explanation times a million.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    So not only does every story arc of every book end in April, but then they stop all of them to do a line wide event.

    How nice of them to give a "you can drop all your DC books and have closure" point.

    This is an ominous move just when the new Batgirl and Gotham Academy started. :(

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    It never ceases to confuse me that the major publishers seem to not get that continuity is a two-way street. Like, if you begin writing well the people reading will just do the clean-up for you. The idea that you need to get all the pieces lined up in the perfect order so that fans can jump in is silly. No one reading like 20 books in the DCU is going to have an aneurysm because you don't match everything perfectly. They're going to invent the interstitial bits that make it make sense to them.

    So long as tentpoles like "Gotham and Metropolis currently exist" are in place, the details can really be left to the damn writers.

    Yeah, continuity is for fans, it's up to the writers to actually create a good story.

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