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[DC Comics]: Crisis on Infinite #Rebirths

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    After the shocking last page of Justice League Beyond's previous issue, the final panels for the current one invite discussion by raising a question or two about it's content (unless they were addressed in one of the shows which then in that case they don't).
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  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    They did imply on the time travel episode of Justice League Unlimited that Wonder Woman was still a part of the Justice League during the Batman Beyond time period but they didn't give any information about Themyscira or the Amazons. They actually wanted to use Wonder Woman in the Justice League league episode in Batman Beyond but they couldn't due to some legal issues.

    Hopefully, they don't do anything stupid with Wonder Woman and the Amazons on the Justice League Beyond comics. Even though the series has improved greatly, they did have quite a few missteps in the past.

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    Would a third couple in the team springing out of the current story count as a misstep?
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    Not sure how much 'ew' factor we're dealing with seeing as Captain Marvel's time-sharing a body with Shazam & Black Adam but seeing as this Flash has previous speedsters ghost-whispering to her all the time due to her connection to the Speed Force, I guess it all evens out? Oh, and the nanomachines Cap's infected with there are Nth-metal made as a workaround by Brainiac due to earlier problems dealing with magic. Not sure if that's doable in the actual DCU but there you go.

  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    I think it'd be a neat exploration to toy with the sexuality of Captain Marvel, like when he's solely got Batson as the host, because then it could be like a sexual discovery in reverse, watching Billy realize he's gay via the feelings when he's Shazam feeling right, and working in the reverse of the usual coming out stories.

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    I don't trust DC to handle something like that with anything resembling the nuance and sensitivity that it would require.

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    I thought Captain Marvel was just Billy..but older, wiser, etc. Fundametally they're still the same person, or so I thought.

    So are they different people?

  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Captain Marvel is Billy's ideal self, a super-awesome adult.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    In the Beyond universe he's still known as Captain Marvel and not Shazam?

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I thought Captain Marvel was just Billy..but older, wiser, etc. Fundametally they're still the same person, or so I thought.

    So are they different people?

    Depends on the writer. Sometimes he's just Billy with Shazam's powers, sometimes he's (like Sorce said) Billy's ideal self, and sometimes they're different people (a Hulk-like situation)

  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    Right now, he's Billy plus. Visually, he's Billy's ideal self (Power of Shazam version was meant to be his father I believe), but the Wisdom or Solomon and Courage of Achilles make him slightly better than his younger self.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Nah, right now he's Billy with powers. He was still a complete dick at first in his New 52 debut, but grew from it

    and then punched Superman

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    In the Beyond universe he's still known as Captain Marvel and not Shazam?

    I think so. I'm not sure if it's an older Billy or an older Freddy in Cap's shoes or not but from what I've seen in scans so far, it looks like Cap and the wizard Shazam are sharing the same 'spot' dimensionally much like Captain Marvel and Rick Jones once did. It also looks like they can share the spot with others connected to the Marvel Family.
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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    BC is reporting that David Fincher is taking over Wonder Woman (though they don't mention if he'll be writing and drawing or just drawing).

    I guess if they want to make sure that WW is in line with the rest of DC books, this would be the way to do it.

  • TairuTairu Registered User regular
    Well there goes the last DC title I still had on my pull

  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    Justice League Beyond looks intriguing. Could a new reader jump in, or would it be better to start out with the Batman Beyond trades?

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  • glithertglithert Registered User regular
    noir_blood wrote: »
    BC is reporting that David Fincher is taking over Wonder Woman (though they don't mention if he'll be writing and drawing or just drawing).

    I guess if they want to make sure that WW is in line with the rest of DC books, this would be the way to do it.

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    I don't think David Fincher can draw. He should just stick to directing.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Guys, it's Finch, not Fincher!

  • TairuTairu Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    I don't think David Lynch is the right fit for this book

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Guys, it's Finch, not Fincher!

    Lies! LIES!!!!!

  • glithertglithert Registered User regular
    Guys, it's Finch, not Fincher!

    I didn't even notice the -er

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited February 2014
    I guess there is a retailer summit going on. Here's the news:

    3D Covers are back for Five Years Later/Future's End month in September

    Wrap your mind around this one: Spinning out of Future's End month, which itself spun out of the Future's End Weekly, will be a new Weekly series in October set five years in the past of the future's end timeline... i.e., in the present day DCU. That's right, a weekly event series will be getting a second weekly event series as a tie-in. DC has created the first semi-weekly event.

    Also, each weekly issue will count as a part of the 52 title count, which means there will only be 40 other ongoings as of October (or a total of 43 titles including the weeklies). The latest solicits I believe were at 48 series, so we'll be seeing 6-8 more series get the ax between May and September, if not more to make room for additional new titles.

    The last bit is just a rumor so far, but BC believes David Finch's wife will be his writer on Wonder Woman. She has only done Grim Fairy Tale stuff for Zenescope before.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Jesus DC.

    I know comics is an event driven business but man, at least Marvel's attempts always come off as less gimmicky.

  • RansRans Registered User regular
    I've decided to sit out the Future's End / Five Years later stuff for all of my regular titles, so it's nice to know there's even more stuff I can skip.

    I just have no interest in a possible future that will never come to be. Future writers of these titles will either feel boxed in by a pre-determined future and be creatively crushed by having to adhere to it (more than they already are by present editorial) or they'll ignore it completely citing that "five years later is still aways off for this character."

    And every interview with creators from here on out will always ask the question "How does storyline x move character y closer to their Future's End status?"

    The only thing we can do is just not buy it so it has no sticking power.

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    As always, I'll read the main series and whatever books I'm still buying at that point. I don't expect DC to hold these guys to futures end (an interview just went up with Didio saying that the goal of the book is to prevent that future), but I do expect writers to tease stories coming up in the more immediate future and the way those stories may change the characters. That stuff is always kind of fun, just like we had with Batman 28.

    But what I'm really curious about is this October weekly. How will they coordinate between the two books if they're supposedly so interlinked? I wonder if any writers will leave Futures End to handle the other, or if they'll share a writer or two. I also wonder what the split will be between characters... Booster Gold sounds like a fit for this October one, I'd think.

  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited February 2014
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    Wrap your mind around this one: Spinning out of Future's End month, which itself spun out of the Future's End Weekly, will be a new Weekly series in October set five years in the past of the future's end timeline... i.e., in the present day DCU. That's right, a weekly event series will be getting a second weekly event series as a tie-in. DC has created the first semi-weekly event.

    I've read this paragraph two or three times and I feel like I'm about to break out in ugly, uncontrolled laughter

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    So I guess this is what happens when you introduce the Monitors to the Smallville continuity.
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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    ...what?

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    Man, DC really likes to have characters' arms cut off. Earth-2 spoilers ahead.
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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    Thinking about this 5 years later thing, I'm a little disappointed that DC isn't going to skip all these books ahead 60 issues in the numbering. I would think that Didio would be all over a numbering gimmick that would cause problems later on.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    I just...what?

    I'm going to largely consider DC comics is on hiatus until I hear otherwise.

  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    ...what?

    The Joker is Bruce and he killed his parents.

    Maybe.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Munch wrote: »
    Man, DC really likes to have characters' arms cut off. Earth-2 spoilers ahead.
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    They're going to daisy-chain all of their one-armed characters into a Superhuman Centipede

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    that page looks, just

    stupid

    like, it has DC's brand of stupid on it

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Wait though for real someone explain that batman page.

    Who is what in what context there? Why do they both have weird vocal effects? Why did Barbara say "back to the tank for ol' babs" while nursing a gunshot?

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    The vocal effects is something Smallville's Batman like to do apparently as part of keeping people from figuring out who he is (along with painting exposed parts of his face black).

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    Barbara describes the effect in a later issue after a meeting with Clark.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Has it happened for anyone else yet that DC is really making you feel disgust at what they're doing?

    And the fact that they're getting paid for it is even worse.

  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    It's not exactly a new phenomenon. It's been going on for 10 years now.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Wait though for real someone explain that batman page.

    Who is what in what context there? Why do they both have weird vocal effects? Why did Barbara say "back to the tank for ol' babs" while nursing a gunshot?

    "Babs" is a diminutive form for "Barbara". I'm not sure what "the tank" is, but I'm assuming it's somewhere she would go to have her wounds treated.

  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Wait though for real someone explain that batman page.

    Who is what in what context there? Why do they both have weird vocal effects? Why did Barbara say "back to the tank for ol' babs" while nursing a gunshot?
    The first set of frames are not followed by the next set of frames. Basically we see before the fight, and then after.

    I think.

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