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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Predications cuz predicting is fun:

    LNC could get Blue Mage (Kimahri style). Or, even more likely, Mechanist/Engineer, FF6Edgar+FF7Cid flavored.

    Pugilist could get...PUP, I think they used hand to hand for their own attacks? Or a gadgeteer/tinkerer type job, FFTA-style.

    Dark Knight as Gladiator DPS to mirror Paladin. Before it used goofy scythes and whatnot, it was sword and board. Alternatively, Mage Knight. I expect something that uses MP to attack, though, give Riot Blade a workout. Red Mage as a distant possibility, but I suspect the likeliest thing for RDM is be a new class.

    Geomancer as a CNJ tank or DPS.

    THM would get Time Mage or, less likely, Red Mage.

    Marauder could get Beast Master. Or Dark Knight.

    Ranger seems obvious for Archer.

    SCH could pick up Calculator or Onmyouji (Mystic/Oracle).

    They could hold Beast Master and Blue Mage and put them both on, say, a whip-using class with a monster-stuff theme.

    Could stick RDM and BLU on a new class together, a magicky fencer sort.

    Gun class, if they want to go with 'unexpected', would be Gun Mage and Chemist. Could go for a trifecta: gun mage deeps, chemist heals, corsair tank.

    edit: They could also slot Chemist onto Rogue or Pugilist, using Rikku as inspiration. Dancer could similarly go on either of those, as a healer or support.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    I could also see them moving from the traditional tank/healer/DPS trinity to the WoW tank/healer/effect/DPS quartet.

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    I could also see them moving from the traditional tank/healer/DPS trinity to the WoW tank/healer/effect/DPS quartet.

    I really want a fourth role for support. So many things would be better suited to a 'support' role; Red Mage, Dancer, Time Mage, Mystic, a slightly retooled Bard.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    My speculation because this is fun.

    New Class:

    Soldier(DPS)

    Base weapon is Greatsword.

    Job's:

    Dark Knight(DPS) Requires SLD 30/MAR 15. Greatsword/Scythe

    Magic Knight(Support DPS): Requires SLD 30/BLM 15. Greatsword/Sword and Shield.


    New Class:

    Gunner(DPS)

    Base Weapon is pistol. Can use Pistol's/Rifles

    Job's:

    Alchemist(Healer): Requires Gunner 30/Conj 15. Uses guns to blast potions out of the air for healing. Focus on Pistol's

    Gambler(Support DPS): Gunner 30/ Rogue 15. Focus on Rifles.



    Job's added to existing classes:

    Samurai(Tank): Lancer 30/Gladiator 15. Can use Lances/Katana

    Ranger(Ranged DPS): Archer 30/ Rogue 15

    Dancer(Support Healer): Pugalist 30/Conj. 15

    Red Mage: Thurmaturge 30/ Conjuror 30

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  • Tridus1xTridus1x Registered User regular
    If they add all these new classes/jobs I hope they would toy with the idea of increasing full/light party sizes. Otherwise more than one support job in a group would hinder their DPS.

    Even if it's just adding a support section to the role types, such as Tank/DPS/Heals/Support. Then just give them 1 or 2 slots in a party just for that role.

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  • Greg USNGreg USN Registered User regular
    Man, I feel bad for DPS queues when ninja hits. It looks like an amazingly fun class, which will only make it worse. I'm seriously considering holding off on leveling it for the first few weeks and the madness dies down.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Greg USN wrote: »
    Man, I feel bad for DPS queues when ninja hits. It looks like an amazingly fun class, which will only make it worse. I'm seriously considering holding off on leveling it for the first few weeks and the madness dies down.

    That's what guilds are for! I'm not going to be leveling a Ninja personally but my Warrior will gladly hardcarry people who are staring at quetimes of death.

  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    Yeah I might get, say, my Warrior up to 15 and start hitting dungeons with ninja's when they need it.

    Since tank queue will be even more instant.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I am going to have to start playing the base class as soon as it is available just so I can get it leveled up to my other classes.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    Khavall wrote: »
    Yeah I might get, say, my Warrior up to 15 and start hitting dungeons with ninja's when they need it.

    Since tank queue will be even more instant.

    Wait times for tanks and healers will become negative, and parties for them will be ready before they're eve-

    *CHING*

    DUTY READY

    Commence/Withdraw?

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Greg USN wrote: »
    Man, I feel bad for DPS queues when ninja hits. It looks like an amazingly fun class, which will only make it worse. I'm seriously considering holding off on leveling it for the first few weeks and the madness dies down.

    That's what guilds are for! I'm not going to be leveling a Ninja personally but my Warrior will gladly hardcarry people who are staring at quetimes of death.

    Yeah this shouldn't be too big a deal, I figure lots of people in the FC are going to want to check it out and other will want to see how they work in groups etc.

    Plus you still have the daily roulette and stuff so I would imagine we'll see an increase in queues at first but not an absurd one due largely in part to the way they have things set up.

    If it were another game then yeah I could see it, but thus far they've done a good job of motivating people to keep doing lower dungeons and such to keep them populated.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    Stolls wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Yeah I might get, say, my Warrior up to 15 and start hitting dungeons with ninja's when they need it.

    Since tank queue will be even more instant.

    Wait times for tanks and healers will become negative, and parties for them will be ready before they're eve-

    *CHING*

    DUTY READY

    Commence/Withdraw?

    Hah! Seriously, the game will probably just start snatching Healers/Tanks from the world at random.

    "Alright guys, lets finish Turn 2- Hey where the hell did our other healer go?!"

    "Uh, why am I in Halatalli?"

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    I really wish Square Enix wasn't a freaking jerkface that blocked Korean ISPs.
    The only way I can play this game on PS4 is if I get a VNP Router.

    Anyone have a favorite VPN service that works with VPN Routers? I'm considering it.

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  • Greg USNGreg USN Registered User regular
    Greg USN wrote: »
    Man, I feel bad for DPS queues when ninja hits. It looks like an amazingly fun class, which will only make it worse. I'm seriously considering holding off on leveling it for the first few weeks and the madness dies down.

    That's what guilds are for! I'm not going to be leveling a Ninja personally but my Warrior will gladly hardcarry people who are staring at quetimes of death.

    I'll be sweet talking my wife into trying out a tanking class :)

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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    My FC already has people collecting Atma for their Ninja. I wonder who's going to be healing these runs because I know I'm leveling mine too...

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  • RiokennRiokenn Registered User regular
    So hyped for the new classes....

    Does anyone know if I can update my game via the launcher even if I don't have a sub at the moment? I'd like to update to 2.3 before I sub back later this month but IIRC the game doesn't update until you login.

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    Yeah, updates are locked behind login.

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Looks like the first full (not half with Paladin) Novus weapons are showing up today as predicted.

    PImprji.jpg

    Not too big a change from Animus but still very nice looking :)

    Here is a video of the effects as well.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXedX10DD24

    As Yoshi P said the actual weapon models will be changing with the next upgrade after Novus.

    It looks like the white mage opted to go for the cheaper route of using all lower tier materia, while the Bard and Blackmage went for the full 2 stat spread, I can only imagine how much time they spent farming myth for Alexandrite though. I've been at it pretty hard and only have 14 so far (should be 16 or so tonight)

    Still not nearly as grindy as expected, you can get 2 a day with some pretty minimal effort which nets you the 75 you need in just over a month or so. Obviously you can go faster or slower than that as your playstyle dictates.

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    So, what's on the agenda for today's live letter? We kinda had an info dump already this week.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    ForceVoid wrote: »
    So, what's on the agenda for today's live letter? We kinda had an info dump already this week.

    second half of the 2.3 infodump. So stuff on frontline, monster hunts, etc.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Speaking up live letter, it's live!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emlu9q4c9IA

    In Japanese obviously but the visuals are pretty!

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Seems Frontlines will be 3 sides of 24 players, each side consisting of 3 teams of 8 each. so 72 total players?

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Also horses in PvP!

    There will also be monsters in the PvP zones so players need to be careful. item levels will be desynced down to ilvl 80 to make it fair for everyone playing.

    Looks like there are objectives to capture, and you get points for killing players.

    8x8x8, 16x16x16. and 24x24x24 are all available based on player queues, it will use the smaller ones if not enough players are queued.

    Chocobo raising refers to raising your chocobo companion not a separate thing. There will be chocobo breeding and new colors in 2.35. Colors are cosmetic and don't affect how powerful a chocobo is or it's abilities

    No restriction on number of personal rooms (?)

    Personal room costs 300,000 gil

    You can access the room via a door on the first floor of the FC house, FC house size doesn't matter. There is no garden in personal rooms, but indoor furnishing can be used there.

    Personal room has no basement but is a big bigger than a small house. (first floor comparison I would imagine)

    Crystal Tower looks amazing. Still can't make a 24 man alliance on your own yet (>.<) Yoshi P is very sorry about this. Might be able to in 2.35. He won't mention ilvl of rewards in CT, says we need to wait for patch notes.

    30% drop rate on Sands+oil of time but it might change so wait for patch notes.

    CT 2 will drop armor, no accessories or weapons.

    No plans to make CT non-instanced. (apparently there was a request for this?)

    Yoshi P teasing boss arenas, CT really looks amazing, no shots of what the bosses look like yet though.

    One seems to be a large concert hall or opera house stage (Ultros confirmed?)

    Some Ninja weapons shown, and PvP armor for Ninja as well (looks like samurai armor)

    Showing Ramuh housing items and other types.

    No gilgamesh in this patch ( :( ) They are taking a break from him this patch.

    Lots of voice acting is coming in 2.4 and beyond, but not much in 2.3

    New side story starting in 2.3. It will start with the delivery moogle!

    New Job Class Delivery Boy Announced! (Yoshi P joke)

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  • Greg USNGreg USN Registered User regular
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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Greg USN wrote: »

    That Q&A is missing a lot of what is being said unfortunately. There is a better translation in the twitch chat of My Happy's twitch channel. At least it's capturing more of what is being said.

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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    There will also be monsters in the PvP zones so players need to be careful. item levels will be desynced down to ilvl 80 to make it fair for everyone playing.

    Awesome. I much prefer games where we're on a level playing field rather than just steamrolling everyone because I have 30 ilevels on them. (Sounds fun, gets boring fast)
    Also helps curb the problem of trying to get friends to come in later but they're reluctant because they're so far behind in gear they just get stomped.
    Chocobo raising refers to raising your chocobo companion not a separate thing. There will be chocobo breeding and new colors in 2.35. Colors are cosmetic and don't affect how powerful a chocobo is or it's abilities
    OK this is bullshit. I demand I be able to run across water and mountains on my gold chocobo. ;)

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    God I hope they lift the Tank/DPS/Healer limitations from PvP

    That's all I'm asking for.

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    God I hope they lift the Tank/DPS/Healer limitations from PvP

    That's all I'm asking for.

    In frontlines you can change your job at the outposts during the battle.

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  • Greg USNGreg USN Registered User regular
    man so far this letter is all shit i wanted answered from the last live letter!

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    There will be new recipes for accessories higher than ilvl 70.

    No new FC or GC ranks in 2.3

    Reconfirmation that FFXIV has no plans to go free to play, however a free trial is being looked into.

    Ixal beast tribe dailies?

    Yugiri's face will not be revealed, still too early for that.

    2.3 Patch will be July 8th with patch notes on the 7th

    Free login weekend for people who had purchased 1.0 the week after patch 2.3

    Showcasing a printed catalogue of Eorzea fashions that will include all gear available in the game as well as housing items. (Great for planning gearset for character or interior decorating!)

    Final Fantasy XIV Fan Fest in October for Las Vegas and London an December for Japan (They mentioned on Tuesday there would be more expansion info at the london event which will be on Oct 25)

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  • Greg USNGreg USN Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    July 8 for 2.3
    edit unless that flipped!
    edit July 8, patch notes July 7.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    That's it for the live letter. I tried to catch most of what was said but obviously some stuff was missed. Be on the lookout for official translations and compilations in the near future as well as screencaps of a lot of what was shown!

    Here is a rough compilation of the translation!

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ry03j396PYkAxNdFkfMtCpam11nNQLXpM07CBfB18EQ/edit

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Ninja PvP gear:

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    Bat themed :D

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    July 8th is.....a helluvalot sooner then I expected.

    THE NINJAPOCALYPSE COMES.

  • Greg USNGreg USN Registered User regular
    Ninja was 2.4 ya?

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    July 8th is.....a helluvalot sooner then I expected.

    THE NINJAPOCALYPSE COMES.

    July 8th is 2.3 , ninjas are 2.4 :)

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    EDIT: Got the shit Itsusimi-ed right out of me!

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Whoops, totally missed that for some reason. Still, 2.3 is good times.

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    I could also see them moving from the traditional tank/healer/DPS trinity to the WoW tank/healer/effect/DPS quartet.

    dps queues to triple

  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Jars wrote: »
    I could also see them moving from the traditional tank/healer/DPS trinity to the WoW tank/healer/effect/DPS quartet.

    dps queues to triple

    Not if you allowed tank/healer/dps/support OR tank/healer/dps/dps for most queues, although that'd mean support could only ever be exactly equivalent to a DPS.

    Alternatively: That's the price you pay for being DPS. ;d

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