It's worked out really well. I haven't hung it yet- it needs a very odd amount of wall space. The banner is over six foot tall and over two foot wide. It's big! I've got it rolled upfront now- it is quite portable... A large poster tube would well for transport.
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Wow that's a nice way to present them. I was thinking of a awesome way to show them off. Imangine storming around pax with that as a midevil family banner man flag.
If you got that as an enforcer, you worked for it buddy. Sweet grab and sweet presentation
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ClixThis guy I knowSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
edited April 2014
One thing that I haven't seen much discussion on is the number of unique pins available at any given PAX.
I think that both PAX East and Prime are at or near the edge of how many pins I'd like to see per show. East 2013 was obviously very lite, only four exclusive pins that you could purchase, and four that required a quest (trading, playing a demo). Then at Prime 2013 they blew the doors off the hinges with 20 questing pins, and 15 unique purchase pins.
One of my fears is that it might become impossible to collect every pin at PAX. Like if there were two panels at the exact same time and they each had a unique pin.
Do you guys want to see more pins at each PAX? Less to make it easier to get them all? Or do you think that they've struck a good balance?
I feel like East 2014 was the perfect amount, and Prime 2013 is the most I'd ever like to see. But as we know, the staff pins are the only reason Prime was so high.
And I don't think it will ever be impossible to get all the pins at any one show. East was a challenge, but far from impossible. You just have to be dedicate, and creative
The only ones that were hard to get were the KI Fightstick and Leeroy. For the KI Fightstick I happened to look at Twitter at 12PM when they said the guy would be at the booth at 1, so I went at 12:30 and it took like 40 minutes for me to play... not awful. Leeroy was similar, just watch Twitter, or find other Pin Pals and hunt that fucker down (which we did and it was a ton of fun running through the expo hall).
Obviously the connections are spotty and not everyone can run across the expo hall though, so there's that.
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I would like to see more pins, and stricker rules to get them. The KI should have stuck with their plan to make you beat Dan. The more pins with lower numbers, and harder to get will force trading, and people will start only collecting what the like as aposed to just collecting them all.
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surettekill the switchBoston, MARegistered Userregular
I'm already incapable of collecting every pin (unless I want to devote my entire PAX trip just to pins, which I don't), so I don't think we need more at each PAX. I think the amount at East this year was the upper limit for what I'd like to see.
I would like to see more pins, and stricker rules to get them. The KI should have stuck with their plan to make you beat Dan. The more pins with lower numbers, and harder to get will force trading, and people will start only collecting what the like as aposed to just collecting them all.
I wasn't at East but from what my pin pal and others have said, it was still very hard to get the KI pin and if they are that hard to win people won't be willing to trade them, so as someone in Aus who is already going to have a hard enough time getting the majority of the pins I disagree with the idea of making it any harder.
I had fun at east this year, and pretty much all I did was collect pins, go get Mike and Jerry to sign some stuff and defend my place in line for the live Aquisitions Incorporated game. I realized when it was all said and done, I had quite literally done nothing else. I only demo'd games that had a pin, I didn't set foot in the table top section(something I had really wanted to do), and I missed out on getting a lot of my friends their beloved swag (except for pin pals, I scored most of those).
I'm most likely going to have to fall into just collecting the Penny Arcade themed ones because of these realizations.
I had fun at east this year, and pretty much all I did was collect pins, go get Mike and Jerry to sign some stuff and defend my place in line for the live Aquisitions Incorporated game. I realized when it was all said and done, I had quite literally done nothing else. I only demo'd games that had a pin, I didn't set foot in the table top section(something I had really wanted to do), and I missed out on getting a lot of my friends their beloved swag (except for pin pals, I scored most of those).
I'm most likely going to have to fall into just collecting the Penny Arcade themed ones because of these realizations.
I honestly think this is the best use of time at PAX. There's no way to really see everything on the convention floor and the booths with pins usually end up being some of the best. I went to the indie games section and only booths with pins, and I had a great time. I demoed games, got to take pictures with monsters (Magic the Gathering), met cool people, and got pins for it all. Seems like the best strategy.
I think my PAX experience from now on will be centered around collecting and trading pins, which I'm totally fine with.
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I would like to see more pins, and stricker rules to get them. The KI should have stuck with their plan to make you beat Dan. The more pins with lower numbers, and harder to get will force trading, and people will start only collecting what the like as aposed to just collecting them all.
I agree with you there.. as I said before I trained to get good at KI to win the pin.. I won the match and poof the pin gets given out to everyone who played..
I think there was to many people who couldn't win so they had many pins laying there..
So away they was given out.
The decision to hand them out win or lose was made before they start...I think. My group were one of the very first people to play KI on Friday Morning, we were all terrible, all lost and all got pins.
I think it would be good to see some really hard to get pin's. Hard but acheiveable, that is available over a longer period of time.
Like the KI engagement pins but PA related, with the only method of getting them to acheive some random arbitrary task.
EG bake some cookies for the cookie brigade.
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We've seen the advent of Pin as Acheivements with the first of the Pin-Ultimate editions (can't wait to see more!)
and the Leeroy Jenkins IRL quest is a GREAT idea; Kudos to whomever thought that one up!
Seeing more of the involvement with the Pins, creating the stories and the memories that make PAX standout from the Con scene, would be fantastic!
At SupaNova (our local lame ComiCon) everyone we met from PAX remebered us and was really excited to meet our son, more often called PAX Baby than anything else.
All i could think of the entire time I was there was "I can't wait untill PAX Aus!"
I know a lot of us like to show off our pin collections, having real stories behind them is what makes them special to us.
I have a suggestion. You guys play the scan the QR codes around pax for a prize? AKA Pax XP?
Well you get a keychain at times and at this recent pax east it was a mini rubix cube. I say make the prize a PAX XP pin. It would look awesome.
I have a suggestion. You guys play the scan the QR codes around pax for a prize? AKA Pax XP?
Well you get a keychain at times and at this recent pax east it was a mini rubix cube. I say make the prize a PAX XP pin. It would look awesome.
I honestly hate PAX XP, though doing it as a team would be pretty fun I guess...
I just like the idea of more new Pins, I haven't gone out of my way to complete the PAX XP in the past few years, it would be nice to try it once again. It got my curious, so I did a search for the PAX XP, and was disappointed to see though, that people were posting all the locations on Reddit and other sites/forums. It can't be helped though I suppose.
If this ever happened, it would definitely increase the number of people who do PAX XP, which would be interesting.
I didn't really care for the way the Leeroy event was executed. I much prefer the idea of moving about and going to collect and not having to mash refresh on Twitter while skulking about the Con unable to get in a line or see anything for fear of missing out on a pin. Something that you can be active in and working towards would be fun, but Leeroy was not fun(to me, some enjoyed it I'm sure).
Not even that. We ran into the guy (and he had a huge crowd around) and he was wanting people to just shout and stuff. No thanks. I was already hurting a little from just being a little under the weather. Not gonna strain myself for a pin. (Although now that I see what it sells for, wish I did.)
Yelling is straining? You need to yell more often then! The goal was for people to hear me on the other side of the convention center, and I definitely remember turning some heads.
Yelling is straining? You need to yell more often then! The goal was for people to hear me on the other side of the convention center, and I definitely remember turning some heads.
It wasn't the yelling part, I used to yell for a living. It was the roaming around mindlessly constantly refreshing twitter then sprinting across the expo hall to fight a hundred people for it that I think @redfield85 was referring to.
No way. I am talking about the yelling. Haha. My voice would've cracked something fierce with the small cold I was battling. We just happened to hear everyone yelling and found Leeroy. My friend got the pin though. Wasn't a total waste.
Personally I think the Leeroy pin was a bad idea. I never manage to find the guy and feel like I wasted my PAX on the hunt. Only pin I did not get. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth. From a marketing perspective I can tell you I am much less likely to try out the game now.
surettekill the switchBoston, MARegistered Userregular
edited April 2014
I thought Leeroy was an awesome idea, but I also didn't spend any real time hunting for him. Didn't even think to check Twitter for his location, to be honest. I just happened to run into the large group surrounding him. Wasn't able to get close enough for him to notice me for a pin, but I enjoy yelling, so I thought it was fun.
I think it stops being fun when obtaining every pin is your primary goal at PAX, as you could probably very easily spend hours looking for him. Leeroy for me was like a fun optional sidequest.
Yeah, it sounds like Leeroy and the KI tournament pins should have been handled better on the PR side. Hopefully it will all go smoother as time goes on.
And I hope that experience didnt sully your expectations on hearthstone. It is a really good CCG when you get to play it for a little while. It only LOOKS casual on the surface, but thats definitely to its advantage as its so easy to pick up and play from the get go. The depth is definitely there, and will only get more complex and intricate as new cards are added with more interesting mechanics.
I had fun at east this year, and pretty much all I did was collect pins, go get Mike and Jerry to sign some stuff and defend my place in line for the live Aquisitions Incorporated game. I realized when it was all said and done, I had quite literally done nothing else. I only demo'd games that had a pin, I didn't set foot in the table top section(something I had really wanted to do), and I missed out on getting a lot of my friends their beloved swag (except for pin pals, I scored most of those).
I'm most likely going to have to fall into just collecting the Penny Arcade themed ones because of these realizations.
I think that doing East for every Pin on your own is quite a daunting task. Mostly it's the sheer size of everything. Long queues, low Pin availability and vast distances all mean that East is a task for at least two people. I have no idea how people who needed the Staff heads were able to get a complete set.
I would like to see more pins, and stricker rules to get them. The KI should have stuck with their plan to make you beat Dan. The more pins with lower numbers, and harder to get will force trading, and people will start only collecting what the like as aposed to just collecting them all.
If everyone had needed to beat Dan, then there would have been even longer queues, and more frustrated people.
Lower Pin availability would hurt Pin trading. The rush to get to the booth with the fewest Pins, the disappointment when they run out and the clamour to trade with those who got extras. You saw that with the LE 10th PAX Pins this year.
What would be a boon to this hobby is simply more availability. We are still in the early years. Collectors having multiples of certain Pins is a good thing. It means that as new people come in, they can get the old Retired Pins. Trading is going to happen over time, and trying to force it through scarcity, particularly artificially created, will just cause frustration. That is likely to turn people off collecting.
It seems counterintuitive to say that more availability will mean more trading, but typically trading occurs between old and new collectors, and here between East, Prime and Aus (soon South) collectors.
The staff pins were easy as hell to get at the pin trading event, if you couldn't get them all you obviously didn't go to that.
The rest of the pins weren't too bad, I had them all besides D&D and Garuk by the end of Friday (besides the staff).
Well there was only one trading event over the three days, so those on single day passes were out of luck. I think when the Prime panels open up I am going to suggest a trading event every day, even if it's only between collectors.
The staff pins were easy as hell to get at the pin trading event, if you couldn't get them all you obviously didn't go to that.
The rest of the pins weren't too bad, I had them all besides D&D and Garuk by the end of Friday (besides the staff).
Well there was only one trading event over the three days, so those on single day passes were out of luck. I think when the Prime panels open up I am going to suggest a trading event every day, even if it's only between collectors.
Oh.. like how they have a table top area and a video game area there can be a pin trading area? Neat.
I was thinking it would be a good idea for them to have a dedicated trading room each PAX. Make it easier fo r us to find each other. I was always worried pulling my rare pins out in open for fear of losing one. Plus another quiet area at PAX is not a bad thing.
I was thinking it would be a good idea for them to have a dedicated trading room each PAX. Make it easier fo r us to find each other. I was always worried pulling my rare pins out in open for fear of losing one. Plus another quiet area at PAX is not a bad thing.
I actually suggested this to Mike directly. He said it was a good idea. We will see if they make it happen.
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I think that both PAX East and Prime are at or near the edge of how many pins I'd like to see per show. East 2013 was obviously very lite, only four exclusive pins that you could purchase, and four that required a quest (trading, playing a demo). Then at Prime 2013 they blew the doors off the hinges with 20 questing pins, and 15 unique purchase pins.
One of my fears is that it might become impossible to collect every pin at PAX. Like if there were two panels at the exact same time and they each had a unique pin.
Do you guys want to see more pins at each PAX? Less to make it easier to get them all? Or do you think that they've struck a good balance?
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And I don't think it will ever be impossible to get all the pins at any one show. East was a challenge, but far from impossible. You just have to be dedicate, and creative
Obviously the connections are spotty and not everyone can run across the expo hall though, so there's that.
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I wasn't at East but from what my pin pal and others have said, it was still very hard to get the KI pin and if they are that hard to win people won't be willing to trade them, so as someone in Aus who is already going to have a hard enough time getting the majority of the pins I disagree with the idea of making it any harder.
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I honestly think this is the best use of time at PAX. There's no way to really see everything on the convention floor and the booths with pins usually end up being some of the best. I went to the indie games section and only booths with pins, and I had a great time. I demoed games, got to take pictures with monsters (Magic the Gathering), met cool people, and got pins for it all. Seems like the best strategy.
I think my PAX experience from now on will be centered around collecting and trading pins, which I'm totally fine with.
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I agree with you there.. as I said before I trained to get good at KI to win the pin.. I won the match and poof the pin gets given out to everyone who played..
I think there was to many people who couldn't win so they had many pins laying there..
So away they was given out.
Like the KI engagement pins but PA related, with the only method of getting them to acheive some random arbitrary task.
EG bake some cookies for the cookie brigade.
Acheive 100 awesomes in the community forums.
Have your PinPal group successfully trade the local sets for all members.
We've seen the advent of Pin as Acheivements with the first of the Pin-Ultimate editions (can't wait to see more!)
and the Leeroy Jenkins IRL quest is a GREAT idea; Kudos to whomever thought that one up!
Seeing more of the involvement with the Pins, creating the stories and the memories that make PAX standout from the Con scene, would be fantastic!
At SupaNova (our local lame ComiCon) everyone we met from PAX remebered us and was really excited to meet our son, more often called PAX Baby than anything else.
All i could think of the entire time I was there was "I can't wait untill PAX Aus!"
I know a lot of us like to show off our pin collections, having real stories behind them is what makes them special to us.
Well you get a keychain at times and at this recent pax east it was a mini rubix cube. I say make the prize a PAX XP pin. It would look awesome.
I honestly hate PAX XP, though doing it as a team would be pretty fun I guess...
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If this ever happened, it would definitely increase the number of people who do PAX XP, which would be interesting.
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It wasn't the yelling part, I used to yell for a living. It was the roaming around mindlessly constantly refreshing twitter then sprinting across the expo hall to fight a hundred people for it that I think @redfield85 was referring to.
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I think it stops being fun when obtaining every pin is your primary goal at PAX, as you could probably very easily spend hours looking for him. Leeroy for me was like a fun optional sidequest.
And I hope that experience didnt sully your expectations on hearthstone. It is a really good CCG when you get to play it for a little while. It only LOOKS casual on the surface, but thats definitely to its advantage as its so easy to pick up and play from the get go. The depth is definitely there, and will only get more complex and intricate as new cards are added with more interesting mechanics.
I think that doing East for every Pin on your own is quite a daunting task. Mostly it's the sheer size of everything. Long queues, low Pin availability and vast distances all mean that East is a task for at least two people. I have no idea how people who needed the Staff heads were able to get a complete set.
If everyone had needed to beat Dan, then there would have been even longer queues, and more frustrated people.
Lower Pin availability would hurt Pin trading. The rush to get to the booth with the fewest Pins, the disappointment when they run out and the clamour to trade with those who got extras. You saw that with the LE 10th PAX Pins this year.
What would be a boon to this hobby is simply more availability. We are still in the early years. Collectors having multiples of certain Pins is a good thing. It means that as new people come in, they can get the old Retired Pins. Trading is going to happen over time, and trying to force it through scarcity, particularly artificially created, will just cause frustration. That is likely to turn people off collecting.
It seems counterintuitive to say that more availability will mean more trading, but typically trading occurs between old and new collectors, and here between East, Prime and Aus (soon South) collectors.
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The rest of the pins weren't too bad, I had them all besides D&D and Garuk by the end of Friday (besides the staff).
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Well there was only one trading event over the three days, so those on single day passes were out of luck. I think when the Prime panels open up I am going to suggest a trading event every day, even if it's only between collectors.
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Oh.. like how they have a table top area and a video game area there can be a pin trading area? Neat.
I actually suggested this to Mike directly. He said it was a good idea. We will see if they make it happen.