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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    The more I play Hawken the more I want to buy the bundles.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Is there a game that exists that is like the Quest Mode in Tobal No. 1? For those who don't have a clue what this might mean:

    ". . . combines the game's fighting controls with three-dimensional dungeon exploration. The player must advance down a number of floors, contend with traps, and engage in fights with a variety of enemies including the game's playable characters. Several items can be found, dropped by enemies, or bought using crystals. These items can be picked up, consumed, or thrown at enemies, and include foodstuffs that can restore the player's HP or potions that have a range of effects including raising the player's maximum health or bringing it down to 1 point. There is no way to save one's progress, and dying means starting over from the beginning. Defeating certain characters in this mode unlocks them as playable characters in the game's other modes." ~Wikipedia (is wonderful)

    Basically, it was a 3D fighting game rogue-like with loot systems like Torchlight.

    Edit: I asked this here mainly because I'd expect that if any platform had something this rad and this out of the ordinary, it would be Steam with it's voluminous amount of indie developers.

    Tekken used to have that but not as good.

    Damn. I also found out the sequel (only in Japan, of course) had a better Quest Mode, too. It just sounds like a really interesting game idea and I am sort of surprised no one has taken it and run with it.

    My brother and I got a book about maps from the scholastic book thing. There was one part about making game maps. So we took that, and made our own, and used street fighter 2 as the game engine to decide our fights. We would choose the character on the map and set a handicap and there you go.

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    Just finished Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons. It amazes me that a game without any actually understandable dialog can evoke those kinds of feels :'(

    I'm not typically a fan of puzzle platformers, so the gameplay though well done (especially with its unique control scheme) didn't really do much for me, but between the story and a great soundtrack I glad I played it.

    Now onto something a little lighter on the feels, either Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, or Hawken.

  • Ragnar DragonfyreRagnar Dragonfyre Registered User regular
    also i had la noire on PS3 but never finished

    I hate that I googled the main characters name and google dropped massive spoilers in the auto complete.

    DO NOT GOOGLE HIS NAME.

    Yup, I never finished it because one of my friends thought he was doing me a service by spoiling the end for me and saving me the time before I was disappointed. I stopped playing about 3/4 through it because of this.

    I don't really speak to him anymore.

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    Does my heart good to see so many people grabbing CoE3 in my activity feed.

  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    I hyped up Towerfall on release day, because the game is super fun and it deserved some recognition for releasing against Titanfall and DS2. But I understand completely why some don't want to buy it because of lack of online play. I do like that it's designed as a couch game, and I get the lag stuff about it having to be 100% one-to-one precise at all times to be even close to fair, but online would boost sales like 10 fold. Even if it's not precise, the developer could emulate the physics on both machines instead of sending that information across, that way it's just key commands being sent from each machine instead of entire game states which would reduce lag drastically. Like that article mentioned though, even 10-15 ms of lag makes a difference in this game. So while it would be awesome, it's probably not going to happen.

    That being said, the single player trials and challenges are still awesome. That's what I've been doing in my spare time with it when no one is around my house is trying to complete hardcore challenges. Not exactly worth the full price of admission, but still offer some value for those without more people immediately around them.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Finally got No Time to Explain's controls to make sense and blew through it. A couple really hard levels, but mostly not too bad. Fun little platformer.

    I also love how some of the hats are like "replace head with photorealistic head of a fox" and stuff like that.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    @DyasAlure Thank you for gifting me Trine 2! I've been going around about buying it on the WiiU, so now I can just play it here.

    It was also a super welcome surprise because I've had a very crummy week. Thank you again. :D

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  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    I hyped up Towerfall on release day, because the game is super fun and it deserved some recognition for releasing against Titanfall and DS2. But I understand completely why some don't want to buy it because of lack of online play. I do like that it's designed as a couch game, and I get the lag stuff about it having to be 100% one-to-one precise at all times to be even close to fair, but online would boost sales like 10 fold. Even if it's not precise, the developer could emulate the physics on both machines instead of sending that information across, that way it's just key commands being sent from each machine instead of entire game states which would reduce lag drastically. Like that article mentioned though, even 10-15 ms of lag makes a difference in this game. So while it would be awesome, it's probably not going to happen.

    That being said, the single player trials and challenges are still awesome. That's what I've been doing in my spare time with it when no one is around my house is trying to complete hardcore challenges. Not exactly worth the full price of admission, but still offer some value for those without more people immediately around them.

    My brother and I unlocked a new stage this afternoon. There are so many little tricks in what seemed like a very simple game.
    Moonstone! Do you know what to do with the crystal that has an archer in it? The orange symbols underneath it read > > V, and I suspect that those are the directions that arrows will need to hit the crystal to crack it open, but, um, we always kinda inadvertently killed each other before we could do that.

    Also, do you know what the difference between last man standing mode and the skulls mode is? Is there only a difference when there's more than two players?

  • ScratchyScratchy Registered User regular
    How darn good is Tower of Guns? Let me paint you a picture you fine lads and ladies. Tower of Guns is a Quake 3 Arena mom with a Binding of Isaac pop. It was never proven but it's likely that the Ikaruga milkman may have been involved in fathering this weird offspring of a game.

    It's sooooo good and I would very much highly recommend it if you like any of those games. I'd gift the heck out of it if I hadn't blown my load already but it's taken over the place of one way heroics for stuffs I will just shoot out to folks for no apparent reason... next next year when I have money again....

    Buy it now and play it because it's awesome!

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    Icemopper wrote: »
    Iolo wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    So Fallout 3/New Vegas. If I play New Vegas without playing 3, is that a bad thing? Will I be missing huge parts of story?

    And if I never have touched a Fallout game before, is that detrimental to my enjoyment as well?

    The stories are unconnected (other than existing in the same world.) I loved 3, although I have to acknowledge part of that was just the ability to stomp around my town post apocalypse. NV added refinements to the first-person Fallout formula that 3 introduced, so if you plan to play them both you might want to start with 3. And you'll miss lots of little references to the older games here and there. But all of the games are a good introduction to the world and backstory.

    Mostly it's fine to start with New Vegas which is a treat to play.

    Excellent. I look forward to starting NV soon then. As I don't own F3, I'll just skip it for now. Thanks!

    I've played through Fallout 3, but haven't played New Vegas, but from what I hear it plays a lot closer to the style of Fallout and Fallout 2 if you've played those (and if you haven't, and you dig old school isometric CRGS, you totally should). The gist I've gotten from a lot of people is that NV is the "real" Fallout 3, and the Fallout 3 we got is more of a side story, similar to what happened with Resident Evil 3 and Code Veronica.
    LostNinja wrote: »
    cpugeek13 wrote: »
    cpugeek13 wrote: »
    F1 2013 is really good guys. Even if you're not a fan of formula one racing, you can still get many hours of fun out of it. Its one of the few racing games in the past few years that is genuinely deep and challenging. I suggest at least checking it out while its free for the weekend.

    I always imagined F1 games as really boring racing games, i guess i'll give it a try in the last 2 hours

    Nah, that would be the official NASCAR video game.

    Surely you can't be calling a Nascar game boring. You get to turn left. And then left again. Then again...and again...and again...for hours... :sleeping:

    Ok, here is the thing about NASCAR:
    A lot of people say that NASCAR stock car racing is boring or dull compared to Formula or GT races or whatever, but that is because they misunderstand the fundamental differences between stock car racing and the road racing that is more prominent in Europe or Japan.

    The most immediate difference between F1 and NASCAR is the circuits. Stock cars will do races from time to time at places like Infineon or Watkins Glen, but for the most part the most complicated circuit you'll see in a televised race is something like Daytona's tri-oval. Compared to courses like Monaco or the fuckin' Nurburgring this might seem extremely simplistic, but in reality it just shifts the complexity in a different direction.

    An F1 driver's main opponent is the circuit he is racing on. A NASCAR driver's main opponent is the 40+ other drivers on the circuit with him. That is the key difference between both racetypes.

    An F1 driver is constantly pushing against a complex track, shaving seconds off of his laptimes, mostly alone or with a small handful of other cars around him. His car's profile is much smaller, meaning drafting is not as beneficial to him as it is in a stock car. Meanwhile, the NASCAR driver is oftentimes completely surrounded, or at the minimum has a dozen or more cars in his immediate vicinity. Compared to Formula cars, a stock car is enormous (and has a minimum weight at more than double the F1 car), so drafting is extremely important, and is considerably more viable with the larger profile of the stock car in front of him. The stock car driver is not utilizing the track to gain speed, he is utilizing the other drivers in a complex strategy of drafting and moving in order to get the best line for the upcoming turn. Stock cars are considerably larger, and are not as fragile as open wheel cars (with their exposed tires and wings), so there is considerably more contact as drivers can be more aggressive in their attempts to gain position, and as a result there are considerably more position changes as well.

    The easiest way to visualize the difference is to think of an F1 race consisting of 24 drivers doing simultaneous time trials and a NASCAR race as 40+ drivers doing a series of drag races separated by left turns.

    Either way, when it comes to motorsports, there is nothing boring or dull about 3,000lb cars going 200MPH.

    Also, before anyone accuses me of being some sort of NASCAR watching, Bud Light drinking, wife beating redneck, I don't really watch it, my preferred motorsport is traditional Rally Racing.

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    Fuck yeah.

    Rally fucking owns.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Icemopper wrote: »
    Iolo wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    So Fallout 3/New Vegas. If I play New Vegas without playing 3, is that a bad thing? Will I be missing huge parts of story?

    And if I never have touched a Fallout game before, is that detrimental to my enjoyment as well?

    The stories are unconnected (other than existing in the same world.) I loved 3, although I have to acknowledge part of that was just the ability to stomp around my town post apocalypse. NV added refinements to the first-person Fallout formula that 3 introduced, so if you plan to play them both you might want to start with 3. And you'll miss lots of little references to the older games here and there. But all of the games are a good introduction to the world and backstory.

    Mostly it's fine to start with New Vegas which is a treat to play.

    Excellent. I look forward to starting NV soon then. As I don't own F3, I'll just skip it for now. Thanks!

    I've played through Fallout 3, but haven't played New Vegas, but from what I hear it plays a lot closer to the style of Fallout and Fallout 2 if you've played those (and if you haven't, and you dig old school isometric CRGS, you totally should). The gist I've gotten from a lot of people is that NV is the "real" Fallout 3, and the Fallout 3 we got is more of a side story, similar to what happened with Resident Evil 3 and Code Veronica.
    LostNinja wrote: »
    cpugeek13 wrote: »
    cpugeek13 wrote: »
    F1 2013 is really good guys. Even if you're not a fan of formula one racing, you can still get many hours of fun out of it. Its one of the few racing games in the past few years that is genuinely deep and challenging. I suggest at least checking it out while its free for the weekend.

    I always imagined F1 games as really boring racing games, i guess i'll give it a try in the last 2 hours

    Nah, that would be the official NASCAR video game.

    Surely you can't be calling a Nascar game boring. You get to turn left. And then left again. Then again...and again...and again...for hours... :sleeping:

    Ok, here is the thing about NASCAR:
    A lot of people say that NASCAR stock car racing is boring or dull compared to Formula or GT races or whatever, but that is because they misunderstand the fundamental differences between stock car racing and the road racing that is more prominent in Europe or Japan.

    The most immediate difference between F1 and NASCAR is the circuits. Stock cars will do races from time to time at places like Infineon or Watkins Glen, but for the most part the most complicated circuit you'll see in a televised race is something like Daytona's tri-oval. Compared to courses like Monaco or the fuckin' Nurburgring this might seem extremely simplistic, but in reality it just shifts the complexity in a different direction.

    An F1 driver's main opponent is the circuit he is racing on. A NASCAR driver's main opponent is the 40+ other drivers on the circuit with him. That is the key difference between both racetypes.

    An F1 driver is constantly pushing against a complex track, shaving seconds off of his laptimes, mostly alone or with a small handful of other cars around him. His car's profile is much smaller, meaning drafting is not as beneficial to him as it is in a stock car. Meanwhile, the NASCAR driver is oftentimes completely surrounded, or at the minimum has a dozen or more cars in his immediate vicinity. Compared to Formula cars, a stock car is enormous (and has a minimum weight at more than double the F1 car), so drafting is extremely important, and is considerably more viable with the larger profile of the stock car in front of him. The stock car driver is not utilizing the track to gain speed, he is utilizing the other drivers in a complex strategy of drafting and moving in order to get the best line for the upcoming turn. Stock cars are considerably larger, and are not as fragile as open wheel cars (with their exposed tires and wings), so there is considerably more contact as drivers can be more aggressive in their attempts to gain position, and as a result there are considerably more position changes as well.

    The easiest way to visualize the difference is to think of an F1 race consisting of 24 drivers doing simultaneous time trials and a NASCAR race as 40+ drivers doing a series of drag races separated by left turns.

    Either way, when it comes to motorsports, there is nothing boring or dull about 3,000lb cars going 200MPH.

    Also, before anyone accuses me of being some sort of NASCAR watching, Bud Light drinking, wife beating redneck, I don't really watch it, my preferred motorsport is traditional Rally Racing.

    SipFvvG.jpg

    Fuck yeah.

    Rally fucking owns.

    A friend of mine grew up in Indy, so I've gained an appreciation of NASCAR through him, but I still say the races are just WAY too long and samey to actually sit and watch, even understanding the deceptively high level of skill that goes into it.

    That said, yeah, rally racing is fucking rad.

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  • DaringDirkDaringDirk Daddy CEO Oakland, CARegistered User regular
    Big Classy wrote: »
    Big Classy wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking that if I use an external kbam on my laptop there'd be less power for performance and games would be affected? I wanna hook it up to the monitor and user the pc kbam with it so it's essentially a mini pc bit no idea if there's any draw backs. Barely running games I want to play decently right now as it is.

    Nope, using an external KBAM will have zero impact on system performance whatsoever. Using an external monitor could impact it slightly, depending on the resolution, and whether you're mirroring your built in monitor, or using it as a second display.

    I'd be using it as the primary display with the laptop screen switched off. Resolution would be higher at 1080p as opposed to the 76something the laptop is at. This is getting me excited :smiley:

    @Big Classy, I've been using a gaming laptop as my main machine for the last 4 years. Other than recommending regular cleaning (dust buildup seems to have been the culprit to my recent crashing woes), and the fact that upgrading is kinda out of the question, it's a perfectly acceptable solution. I've got a 10-port USB 2.0 hub for all my accessories, and 6TB of external storage hooked up via the two USB 3.0 ports, pretty much as fast as an internal drive. The lid remains closed, everything is external, and the 10-port hub has its own power supply, as does the external USB 3 HDD enclosure. It's absolutely a perfectly acceptable way of doing things, just think about airflow and you'll be fine. I've found that having the lappy on a monitor riser, with a couple Lincoln Logs to raise it up from the flat surface of the riser, provides all the fresh, cool air it needs to prevent overheating and such. It's so very, very good to hear that you may be coming back to the PC gaming fold!
    emp123 wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Finding an open studio/one-bedroom apartment in San Diego is balls. Round, bouncy, red balls. Spent all day yesterday with no success and now I'll be spending all week making calls to the ones I found with offices closed on the weekend, or ones that claimed they were open on the weekend but decided they didn't want to be on that day.

    As someone who has recently moved from San Diego to the Bay Area I feel your pain. Trying to find a studio/1 bedroom for under 1600 in an area that wont get me shot or robbed and wont result in the 1.5 hour commute I currently have is a fucking nightmare.

    @emp123, pretty sure I can rely on anyone in PA to know computers, especially in the Steam thread. Please hit me up with a message if you're interested in a solid, 8 hour M-F tech support job at First and Market in SF, I think our going rate is around $55k. Might be way below your needs, but I always try to throw that out for fellow PAers, and it sounds like we might be able to offer something 'soon'. ;-)

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    DaringDirk wrote: »
    emp123, pretty sure I can rely on anyone in PA to know computers, especially in the Steam thread. Please hit me up with a message if you're interested in a solid, 8 hour M-F tech support job at First and Market in SF, I think our going rate is around $55k. Might be way below your needs, but I always try to throw that out for fellow PAers, and it sounds like we might be able to offer something 'soon'. ;-)

    Shit dude I will move to San Francisco and live in a car for $55k a year.
    A friend of mine grew up in Indy, so I've gained an appreciation of NASCAR through him, but I still say the races are just WAY too long and samey to actually sit and watch, even understanding the deceptively high level of skill that goes into it.

    I read an interview a while back with Kazunori Yamauchi when they were adding NASCAR to Gran Turismo 5, where he was talking about how crazy NASCAR is to the average Japanese race fan. He said that the team was in awe when races at Suzuka and Fuji would barely get half of the seats full, but NASCAR races would regularly sell out 100,000 to 150,000 seat venues, with the Brickyard 400 at Indianapolis regularly pulling a quarter of a million people every year.

    I was thinking of trying the F1 2013 free weekend, but I wanted to see how large the download would be before committing. When I clicked on the "Click here to play" etc, it just brought me to the store page, which only gave me options to buy it. It's not listed in my library the way free weekend games normally are either. I'm gonna take that as a sign.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Scratchy wrote: »
    How darn good is Tower of Guns? Let me paint you a picture you fine lads and ladies. Tower of Guns is a Quake 3 Arena mom with a Binding of Isaac pop. It was never proven but it's likely that the Ikaruga milkman may have been involved in fathering this weird offspring of a game.

    It's sooooo good and I would very much highly recommend it if you like any of those games. I'd gift the heck out of it if I hadn't blown my load already but it's taken over the place of one way heroics for stuffs I will just shoot out to folks for no apparent reason... next next year when I have money again....

    Buy it now and play it because it's awesome!
    Counterpoint: the movement is super floaty, you pretty much only ever get to use the one gun you pick per run which means there's a serious lack of variety during each run, your success is determined to a large degree by what powerups you find, and the sound mixing and sound effects are pretty mediocre, such that it's often tough to tell what is going on with audio cues. This isn't to say it's a bad game - I still enjoy it - it's just to say it's hardly the best thing ever. The Quake III comparison is pretty bad, I think - it's an Unreal game at heart when it comes to how the game feels. You can read my full review at my website (in my signature) if you want.

  • ScratchyScratchy Registered User regular
    Scratchy wrote: »
    How darn good is Tower of Guns? Let me paint you a picture you fine lads and ladies. Tower of Guns is a Quake 3 Arena mom with a Binding of Isaac pop. It was never proven but it's likely that the Ikaruga milkman may have been involved in fathering this weird offspring of a game.

    It's sooooo good and I would very much highly recommend it if you like any of those games. I'd gift the heck out of it if I hadn't blown my load already but it's taken over the place of one way heroics for stuffs I will just shoot out to folks for no apparent reason... next next year when I have money again....

    Buy it now and play it because it's awesome!

    Counterpoint: the movement is super floaty, you pretty much only ever get to use the one gun you pick per run which means there's a serious lack of variety during each run, your success is determined to a large degree by what powerups you find, and the sound mixing and sound effects are pretty mediocre, such that it's often tough to tell what is going on with audio cues. This isn't to say it's a bad game - I still enjoy it - it's just to say it's hardly the best thing ever. The Quake III comparison is pretty bad, I think - it's an Unreal game at heart when it comes to how the game feels. You can read my full review at my website (in my signature) if you want.

    Counter Counterpoint: This is not in any means a AAA title game and it has its flaws but it's

    Spoiled for language
    crazy fuckin fun nonstop riotous nonsense!

    Quake 3 maybe is a bad comparison but folks familiar with the style of the arena combat would feel at home in each level. 60 % rogue, 40 % batshit insane shooter. Plus did I mention that it's fun. Too many games nowadays are pissed on because of mechanics but this here nonsensical azure dreams style game is freakin fun.

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    Icemopper wrote: »
    Iolo wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    So Fallout 3/New Vegas. If I play New Vegas without playing 3, is that a bad thing? Will I be missing huge parts of story?

    And if I never have touched a Fallout game before, is that detrimental to my enjoyment as well?

    The stories are unconnected (other than existing in the same world.) I loved 3, although I have to acknowledge part of that was just the ability to stomp around my town post apocalypse. NV added refinements to the first-person Fallout formula that 3 introduced, so if you plan to play them both you might want to start with 3. And you'll miss lots of little references to the older games here and there. But all of the games are a good introduction to the world and backstory.

    Mostly it's fine to start with New Vegas which is a treat to play.

    Excellent. I look forward to starting NV soon then. As I don't own F3, I'll just skip it for now. Thanks!

    I've played through Fallout 3, but haven't played New Vegas, but from what I hear it plays a lot closer to the style of Fallout and Fallout 2 if you've played those (and if you haven't, and you dig old school isometric CRGS, you totally should). The gist I've gotten from a lot of people is that NV is the "real" Fallout 3, and the Fallout 3 we got is more of a side story, similar to what happened with Resident Evil 3 and Code Veronica.
    LostNinja wrote: »
    cpugeek13 wrote: »
    cpugeek13 wrote: »
    F1 2013 is really good guys. Even if you're not a fan of formula one racing, you can still get many hours of fun out of it. Its one of the few racing games in the past few years that is genuinely deep and challenging. I suggest at least checking it out while its free for the weekend.

    I always imagined F1 games as really boring racing games, i guess i'll give it a try in the last 2 hours

    Nah, that would be the official NASCAR video game.

    Surely you can't be calling a Nascar game boring. You get to turn left. And then left again. Then again...and again...and again...for hours... :sleeping:

    Ok, here is the thing about NASCAR:
    A lot of people say that NASCAR stock car racing is boring or dull compared to Formula or GT races or whatever, but that is because they misunderstand the fundamental differences between stock car racing and the road racing that is more prominent in Europe or Japan.

    The most immediate difference between F1 and NASCAR is the circuits. Stock cars will do races from time to time at places like Infineon or Watkins Glen, but for the most part the most complicated circuit you'll see in a televised race is something like Daytona's tri-oval. Compared to courses like Monaco or the fuckin' Nurburgring this might seem extremely simplistic, but in reality it just shifts the complexity in a different direction.

    An F1 driver's main opponent is the circuit he is racing on. A NASCAR driver's main opponent is the 40+ other drivers on the circuit with him. That is the key difference between both racetypes.

    An F1 driver is constantly pushing against a complex track, shaving seconds off of his laptimes, mostly alone or with a small handful of other cars around him. His car's profile is much smaller, meaning drafting is not as beneficial to him as it is in a stock car. Meanwhile, the NASCAR driver is oftentimes completely surrounded, or at the minimum has a dozen or more cars in his immediate vicinity. Compared to Formula cars, a stock car is enormous (and has a minimum weight at more than double the F1 car), so drafting is extremely important, and is considerably more viable with the larger profile of the stock car in front of him. The stock car driver is not utilizing the track to gain speed, he is utilizing the other drivers in a complex strategy of drafting and moving in order to get the best line for the upcoming turn. Stock cars are considerably larger, and are not as fragile as open wheel cars (with their exposed tires and wings), so there is considerably more contact as drivers can be more aggressive in their attempts to gain position, and as a result there are considerably more position changes as well.

    The easiest way to visualize the difference is to think of an F1 race consisting of 24 drivers doing simultaneous time trials and a NASCAR race as 40+ drivers doing a series of drag races separated by left turns.

    Either way, when it comes to motorsports, there is nothing boring or dull about 3,000lb cars going 200MPH.

    Also, before anyone accuses me of being some sort of NASCAR watching, Bud Light drinking, wife beating redneck, I don't really watch it, my preferred motorsport is traditional Rally Racing.

    SipFvvG.jpg

    Fuck yeah.

    Rally fucking owns.

    All I know is that I was at a race once (Datona but not the 500, the other Sprint cup race that happens there) and I literally fell asleep while still sitting straight up in the stands. That says a lot considering how loud those things are.

  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    DaringDirk wrote: »
    emp123 wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Finding an open studio/one-bedroom apartment in San Diego is balls. Round, bouncy, red balls. Spent all day yesterday with no success and now I'll be spending all week making calls to the ones I found with offices closed on the weekend, or ones that claimed they were open on the weekend but decided they didn't want to be on that day.

    As someone who has recently moved from San Diego to the Bay Area I feel your pain. Trying to find a studio/1 bedroom for under 1600 in an area that wont get me shot or robbed and wont result in the 1.5 hour commute I currently have is a fucking nightmare.

    @emp123, pretty sure I can rely on anyone in PA to know computers, especially in the Steam thread. Please hit me up with a message if you're interested in a solid, 8 hour M-F tech support job at First and Market in SF, I think our going rate is around $55k. Might be way below your needs, but I always try to throw that out for fellow PAers, and it sounds like we might be able to offer something 'soon'. ;-)

    Jesus Christ, this threads generosity knows no bounds; this community continues to surprise me in the most amazing ways.

    Im going to decline*, but god damn.

    Does anyone have a kidney?

    But seriously, you guys are consistently amazing.

    *
    My tech support skills are basically limited to what I can find on Google and my current job is, at the very least, tangentially related to my degree.

    Unless you guys have the need for someone with a law degree but isnt a lawyer.

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Is 55K a livable wage in the Bay Area?

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Is 55K a livable wage in the Bay Area?
    Like, for Steam games? $55k will buy you pretty much any Steam games you want!

  • TeeManTeeMan BrainSpoon Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    Tomorrow, tomorrow is the day I catch up on the steam thread - I swear!

    By means of motivation, @Scratchy‌, that lovable scamp, has gifted me not one but two[i/] games out of the blue! Bionic Dues and One Way Heroics! What a stellar dude, thanks mate :smiley:

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    I don't think I like Alan Wake.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    emp123 wrote: »
    DaringDirk wrote: »
    emp123 wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Finding an open studio/one-bedroom apartment in San Diego is balls. Round, bouncy, red balls. Spent all day yesterday with no success and now I'll be spending all week making calls to the ones I found with offices closed on the weekend, or ones that claimed they were open on the weekend but decided they didn't want to be on that day.

    As someone who has recently moved from San Diego to the Bay Area I feel your pain. Trying to find a studio/1 bedroom for under 1600 in an area that wont get me shot or robbed and wont result in the 1.5 hour commute I currently have is a fucking nightmare.

    @emp123, pretty sure I can rely on anyone in PA to know computers, especially in the Steam thread. Please hit me up with a message if you're interested in a solid, 8 hour M-F tech support job at First and Market in SF, I think our going rate is around $55k. Might be way below your needs, but I always try to throw that out for fellow PAers, and it sounds like we might be able to offer something 'soon'. ;-)

    Jesus Christ, this threads generosity knows no bounds; this community continues to surprise me in the most amazing ways.

    Im going to decline*, but god damn.

    Does anyone have a kidney?

    But seriously, you guys are consistently amazing.

    *
    My tech support skills are basically limited to what I can find on Google and my current job is, at the very least, tangentially related to my degree.

    Unless you guys have the need for someone with a law degree but isnt a lawyer.

    Yanno, it's funny. I'm a marine engineer and even though I'm not nearly as hands on knowledgeable as some of the old timers here, being able to Google a problem has turned me into a god damn wizard in their eyes. Pretty much every repair job these days seems to have turned just as much into "what can you find out" as it is "what do you know off the top of your head." I can't wait for Coast Guard tests to start asking questions about how to operate a computer. I would not be surprised if this is the case even in actual tech support jobs.

    In more thread related news, HOLY SHIT LUFTRAUSERS COMES OUT TOMORROW. I saw this game at PAX and it looked nuts as fuck. Devolver Digital is putting it out and their track record as been fucking stellar in case you need even more coercion to buy this.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Is 55K a livable wage in the Bay Area?

    Yes, but expect a much smaller place to live than you would get for the same price anywhere else.

    And you'll probably have roommates.

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    TOGSolid wrote: »
    In more thread related news, HOLY SHIT LUFTRAUSERS COMES OUT TOMORROW. I saw this game at PAX and it looked nuts as fuck. Devolver Digital is putting it out and their track record as been fucking stellar in case you need even more coercion to buy this.

    Can confirm, been playing a preview copy of this and it is all kinds of awesome. The review is embargoed until tomorrow but yeah, it's pretty fantastic and the music is amazing.

    TOGSolid
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    Mark of the Ninja is pretty fun, although it's very frustrating at times.

    Also started playing "To The Moon." Also a very interesting game, with an intriguing story.

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Stupid EA and Bioware points. I'm very close to paying more for ME2 DLC than I have paid for all but like 2 games over the last 3 years.

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  • DyasAlureDyasAlure SeattleRegistered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Yanno, it's funny. I'm a marine engineer and even though I'm not nearly as hands on knowledgeable as some of the old timers here, being able to Google a problem has turned me into a god damn wizard in their eyes. Pretty much every repair job these days seems to have turned just as much into "what can you find out" as it is "what do you know off the top of your head." I can't wait for Coast Guard tests to start asking questions about how to operate a computer. I would not be surprised if this is the case even in actual tech support jobs.

    I lost a tech job because I didn't know what the video card in a computer specs were. I was told my troubleshooting skill was great at thinking through a problem I didn't know the answer. I should have pulled out my phone and googled the specs in front of them. I don't memorize the cards, but I can look them up fast and tell you if it is worth it.

    off to play saints row III

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  • Talus9952Talus9952 Registered User regular
    Icemopper wrote: »
    So Fallout 3/New Vegas. If I play New Vegas without playing 3, is that a bad thing? Will I be missing huge parts of story?

    And if I never have touched a Fallout game before, is that detrimental to my enjoyment as well?

    They're completely separate games, and can be played in any order.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    SmokeStacks needs Gauntlet badly

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I hyped up Towerfall on release day, because the game is super fun and it deserved some recognition for releasing against Titanfall and DS2. But I understand completely why some don't want to buy it because of lack of online play. I do like that it's designed as a couch game, and I get the lag stuff about it having to be 100% one-to-one precise at all times to be even close to fair, but online would boost sales like 10 fold. Even if it's not precise, the developer could emulate the physics on both machines instead of sending that information across, that way it's just key commands being sent from each machine instead of entire game states which would reduce lag drastically. Like that article mentioned though, even 10-15 ms of lag makes a difference in this game. So while it would be awesome, it's probably not going to happen.

    That being said, the single player trials and challenges are still awesome. That's what I've been doing in my spare time with it when no one is around my house is trying to complete hardcore challenges. Not exactly worth the full price of admission, but still offer some value for those without more people immediately around them.

    I bought it BECAUSE it lacks online play.

    But then I played it and it was very boring and the shooting controls were awful. So it got uninstalled.

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    DyasAlure wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Yanno, it's funny. I'm a marine engineer and even though I'm not nearly as hands on knowledgeable as some of the old timers here, being able to Google a problem has turned me into a god damn wizard in their eyes. Pretty much every repair job these days seems to have turned just as much into "what can you find out" as it is "what do you know off the top of your head." I can't wait for Coast Guard tests to start asking questions about how to operate a computer. I would not be surprised if this is the case even in actual tech support jobs.

    I lost a tech job because I didn't know what the video card in a computer specs were. I was told my troubleshooting skill was great at thinking through a problem I didn't know the answer. I should have pulled out my phone and googled the specs in front of them. I don't memorize the cards, but I can look them up fast and tell you if it is worth it.

    off to play saints row III

    Wut, that'd be like me having to memorize all the information for Delo 400 oil when the spec sheet is right there in the control booth and easily accessible. The place you were working for is kinda retarded.
    Talus9952 wrote: »
    Icemopper wrote: »
    So Fallout 3/New Vegas. If I play New Vegas without playing 3, is that a bad thing? Will I be missing huge parts of story?

    And if I never have touched a Fallout game before, is that detrimental to my enjoyment as well?

    They're completely separate games, and can be played in any order.

    It's still better to play 3 first just because New Vegas will absolutely spoil you due to it being a generally better game.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »

    Arrowhead Studios

    4p co-op

    No obvious friendly fire.

    What is this I don't understand.

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    So Gauntlet, remade by the Magicka team?

    Yup - I'm in. Same room co-op for me and the kid will be amazing (assume it has local multiplayer).

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Everyone should should play the neo scavenger demo and then buy the game like I did. I saw a hungry man chase me down and then drop dead in front of me. I was going take his corpse back home in his own shopping cart to eat, but I got surprised by another bandit and didn't want to fight until I had fashioned a spear, a bow, and some arrows.

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