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No, but I'd argue the concept of plural commitment is.
you can find those in hunter-gatherer societies though, afaik. loosely speaking. Obviously whether they conceive of it as plural commitment in the way we do is a bit iffy, but you can find societies where the particular identity of the biological father is not particularly stressed
This is true, as I recall the small culture (in southern China? Maybe?) where monogamy isn't a thing and children have no fathers, and are instead raised by their mother and maternal uncles.
These people are well aware of the modern conventions of marriage, and think they're hilariously dumb.
Hey, as long as babies get fed and spend time with role models, hard to criticize.
I completely agree.
As I said, I've come to view monogamy and western coupling traditions with a more critical eye of late.
aren't you married?
Yeah, but that doesn't have all that much to do with the macrocultural examination of monogamy.
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Dark Raven XLaugh hard, run fast,be kindRegistered Userregular
No, but I'd argue the concept of plural commitment is.
you can find those in hunter-gatherer societies though, afaik. loosely speaking. Obviously whether they conceive of it as plural commitment in the way we do is a bit iffy, but you can find societies where the particular identity of the biological father is not particularly stressed
This is true, as I recall the small culture (in southern China? Maybe?) where monogamy isn't a thing and children have no fathers, and are instead raised by their mother and maternal uncles.
These people are well aware of the modern conventions of marriage, and think they're hilariously dumb.
Hey, as long as babies get fed and spend time with role models, hard to criticize.
I completely agree.
As I said, I've come to view monogamy and western coupling traditions with a more critical eye of late.
aren't you married?
Yeah, but that doesn't have all that much to do with the macrocultural examination of monogamy.
i guess
though carving out exceptions of principle to ones' own personal circumstances sort of smacks of cognitive dissonance
No, but I'd argue the concept of plural commitment is.
you can find those in hunter-gatherer societies though, afaik. loosely speaking. Obviously whether they conceive of it as plural commitment in the way we do is a bit iffy, but you can find societies where the particular identity of the biological father is not particularly stressed
This is true, as I recall the small culture (in southern China? Maybe?) where monogamy isn't a thing and children have no fathers, and are instead raised by their mother and maternal uncles.
These people are well aware of the modern conventions of marriage, and think they're hilariously dumb.
Hey, as long as babies get fed and spend time with role models, hard to criticize.
I completely agree.
As I said, I've come to view monogamy and western coupling traditions with a more critical eye of late.
aren't you married?
Yeah, but that doesn't have all that much to do with the macrocultural examination of monogamy.
i guess
though carving out exceptions of principle to ones' own personal circumstances sort of smacks of cognitive dissonance
I get what you're saying, but I think what I'm trying to say here is that my greater examination and criticism of Western conventions of monogamy and coupling isn't necessarily a commentary upon my own situation, and wouldn't be if the things I'm critical of aren't applicable to my situation. Which they largely aren't, btw, I feel.
I know that probably sounds like me making a special exemption for myself, and you're free to argue that, and maybe I am, but I don't think I am.
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
Ugh. I don't want to go to work tmmw so I went to pick up my quarterly mega millions ticket. I'm stuck behind an old lotto lady with her list of numbers to play. Ugh
Annnnnd she wished me luck on my way out. Now I feel like a butt for typing that first bit
got the uniqlo stuff in. dang. target's merona brand (which runs huge) fits me great in 2xl. uniqlo fits me like a glove in 3xl and they have their aggressive japanese fit. in most brands, 2xl shirts are too tight, and 3xl shirts are absolutely huge, billowing off my shoulder.
Ugh. I don't want to go to work tmmw so I went to pick up my quarterly mega millions ticket. I'm stuck behind an old lotto lady with her list of numbers to play. Ugh
Annnnnd she wished me luck on my way out. Now I feel like a butt for typing that first bit
Don't worry so much.
Feeling like a butt is half of being less of a butt.
There's this new girl working where I buy my groceries. She's so extremely happy-sounding when working with customers that I can't help but wonder which upper she's on.
Also she looks a bit like this.
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
No, but I'd argue the concept of plural commitment is.
you can find those in hunter-gatherer societies though, afaik. loosely speaking. Obviously whether they conceive of it as plural commitment in the way we do is a bit iffy, but you can find societies where the particular identity of the biological father is not particularly stressed
This is true, as I recall the small culture (in southern China? Maybe?) where monogamy isn't a thing and children have no fathers, and are instead raised by their mother and maternal uncles.
These people are well aware of the modern conventions of marriage, and think they're hilariously dumb.
Hey, as long as babies get fed and spend time with role models, hard to criticize.
I completely agree.
As I said, I've come to view monogamy and western coupling traditions with a more critical eye of late.
aren't you married?
Yeah, but that doesn't have all that much to do with the macrocultural examination of monogamy.
i guess
though carving out exceptions of principle to ones' own personal circumstances sort of smacks of cognitive dissonance
I get what you're saying, but I think what I'm trying to say here is that my greater examination and criticism of Western conventions of monogamy and coupling isn't necessarily a commentary upon my own situation, and wouldn't be if the things I'm critical of aren't applicable to my situation. Which they largely aren't, btw, I feel.
I know that probably sounds like me making a special exemption for myself, and you're free to argue that, and maybe I am, but I don't think I am.
well i mean clearly your gender situation puts a spin on things, and i certainly wouldn't claim to know anything about your marriage outside of the little you've shared. but fundamentally, you entered into the same historically patriarchal institution that all other married couples have and probably still love your wife in about the same way you did when you married. afaik you're faithful to her and her to you.
and there's nothing wrong with that, i think! the emotional bonds - the sense of reliance and trust and devotion and camaraderie and consideration are really the most valuable part to marriage, any successfully married couples will aver.
my opinion is that the kind of long-term partnership and trust implicit in a good marriage would be difficult to replicate in a poly arrangement. or alternatively maybe i just haven't been exposed to any good poly arrangements and just have a hard time imagining the same senses of devotion and trust implicit in a non-exclusive arrangement.
those feelings certainly don't require monogamous marriage, but the modern institution has been built around encouraging them.
now all this said, i don't really have any stake in what other people do with their romantic lives, and the little i know about more communal (or at least less individualistic) child-rearing arrangements sound like they could be good for people.
there are good things about monogamy, and these are presumably things you enjoy (as you remain married), and other people enjoy. i think that's worth acknowledging.
Nudibranchs that feed on hydrozoids can store the hydrozoids' nematocysts (stinging cells) in the dorsal body wall, the cerata.[10] These stolen nematocysts, called kleptocnidae, wander through the alimentary tract without harming the nudibranch. Once further into the organ, the cells are assimilated by intestinal protuberances and brought to specific placements on the creature's hind body. Nudibranchs can protect themselves from the hydrozoids and their nematocysts; the specific mechanism is yet unknown, but special cells with large vacuoles probably play an important role. Similarly, nudibranchs can also take in plant cells and reuse the chloroplasts (plant cell organelles used for photosynthesis) to make food for themselves.
Ugh. I don't want to go to work tmmw so I went to pick up my quarterly mega millions ticket. I'm stuck behind an old lotto lady with her list of numbers to play. Ugh
Annnnnd she wished me luck on my way out. Now I feel like a butt for typing that first bit
playing the lotto is low-class deebs
hope u picked up a 2-liter of dew on your way out of the quicky mart.
+4
Dark Raven XLaugh hard, run fast,be kindRegistered Userregular
Sea Swallows are so cooooool
Hey so today I learned Portugese Man O Wars are not Jellyfish.
Oh brilliant
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
got the uniqlo stuff in. dang. target's merona brand (which runs huge) fits me great in 2xl. uniqlo fits me like a glove in 3xl and they have their aggressive japanese fit. in most brands, 2xl shirts are too tight, and 3xl shirts are absolutely huge, billowing off my shoulder.
so i guess i should figure i am 2.5xl : (
*throws up aggressively*
i have been having to size up to L
it's pretty depressing
also bought 36 waist trousers to be comfortable in and now my 34 trousers are kinda uncomfortable when i am sitting
No, but I'd argue the concept of plural commitment is.
you can find those in hunter-gatherer societies though, afaik. loosely speaking. Obviously whether they conceive of it as plural commitment in the way we do is a bit iffy, but you can find societies where the particular identity of the biological father is not particularly stressed
This is true, as I recall the small culture (in southern China? Maybe?) where monogamy isn't a thing and children have no fathers, and are instead raised by their mother and maternal uncles.
These people are well aware of the modern conventions of marriage, and think they're hilariously dumb.
Hey, as long as babies get fed and spend time with role models, hard to criticize.
I completely agree.
As I said, I've come to view monogamy and western coupling traditions with a more critical eye of late.
aren't you married?
Yeah, but that doesn't have all that much to do with the macrocultural examination of monogamy.
i guess
though carving out exceptions of principle to ones' own personal circumstances sort of smacks of cognitive dissonance
I get what you're saying, but I think what I'm trying to say here is that my greater examination and criticism of Western conventions of monogamy and coupling isn't necessarily a commentary upon my own situation, and wouldn't be if the things I'm critical of aren't applicable to my situation. Which they largely aren't, btw, I feel.
I know that probably sounds like me making a special exemption for myself, and you're free to argue that, and maybe I am, but I don't think I am.
...but fundamentally, you entered into the same historically patriarchal institution that all other married couples have...
It's historically patriarchal in general, but that has very little to do with the contours of any given marriage.
got the uniqlo stuff in. dang. target's merona brand (which runs huge) fits me great in 2xl. uniqlo fits me like a glove in 3xl and they have their aggressive japanese fit. in most brands, 2xl shirts are too tight, and 3xl shirts are absolutely huge, billowing off my shoulder.
so i guess i should figure i am 2.5xl : (
*throws up aggressively*
i have been having to size up to L
it's pretty depressing
also bought 36 waist trousers to be comfortable in and now my 34 trousers are kinda uncomfortable when i am sitting
how much does liposuction run?
do pharmacies in boston carry ipecac? i'll be right over
Posts
but I vote for dumpchat
yes
twitch.tv/tehsloth
i literally was coming to the forums to post this video and was going to @
especially cuz of the emoji sxsw thing you mentioned
U READ MY MIND
BROOOOOOOOOO
Yeah, but that doesn't have all that much to do with the macrocultural examination of monogamy.
And it will be
the worst
One of Camerons top advisors, who was heavily involved in writing policy for regressive internet filters has been swifted on child porn charges.
i guess
though carving out exceptions of principle to ones' own personal circumstances sort of smacks of cognitive dissonance
what does this say about you
I see your corgi and I raise you a crew of dogs...
...aboard their reliable ship.
I get what you're saying, but I think what I'm trying to say here is that my greater examination and criticism of Western conventions of monogamy and coupling isn't necessarily a commentary upon my own situation, and wouldn't be if the things I'm critical of aren't applicable to my situation. Which they largely aren't, btw, I feel.
I know that probably sounds like me making a special exemption for myself, and you're free to argue that, and maybe I am, but I don't think I am.
Annnnnd she wished me luck on my way out. Now I feel like a butt for typing that first bit
so i guess i should figure i am 2.5xl : (
*throws up aggressively*
Don't worry so much.
Feeling like a butt is half of being less of a butt.
I just used zappos for the first time and got some nice utilitarian hiking boots.
Now I just need Amazon to not treat their workers like shit so I don't have to feel as bad ordering though them.
tee hee
nude
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
"hey, nudibranch! put your shell back on!"
avface
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
i was looking at more stuff about my dives and there was a sweet pic of a nudibranch
here are some more
It was a generally awkward start to the lesson. Then we had crazy adverb exceptions to deal with in the context of French PMQs.
now i want pet slug
Also she looks a bit like this.
well i mean clearly your gender situation puts a spin on things, and i certainly wouldn't claim to know anything about your marriage outside of the little you've shared. but fundamentally, you entered into the same historically patriarchal institution that all other married couples have and probably still love your wife in about the same way you did when you married. afaik you're faithful to her and her to you.
and there's nothing wrong with that, i think! the emotional bonds - the sense of reliance and trust and devotion and camaraderie and consideration are really the most valuable part to marriage, any successfully married couples will aver.
my opinion is that the kind of long-term partnership and trust implicit in a good marriage would be difficult to replicate in a poly arrangement. or alternatively maybe i just haven't been exposed to any good poly arrangements and just have a hard time imagining the same senses of devotion and trust implicit in a non-exclusive arrangement.
those feelings certainly don't require monogamous marriage, but the modern institution has been built around encouraging them.
now all this said, i don't really have any stake in what other people do with their romantic lives, and the little i know about more communal (or at least less individualistic) child-rearing arrangements sound like they could be good for people.
there are good things about monogamy, and these are presumably things you enjoy (as you remain married), and other people enjoy. i think that's worth acknowledging.
omg
well, aren't you mellow
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
playing the lotto is low-class deebs
hope u picked up a 2-liter of dew on your way out of the quicky mart.
Hey so today I learned Portugese Man O Wars are not Jellyfish.
i have been having to size up to L
it's pretty depressing
also bought 36 waist trousers to be comfortable in and now my 34 trousers are kinda uncomfortable when i am sitting
how much does liposuction run?
It's historically patriarchal in general, but that has very little to do with the contours of any given marriage.
What I'm saying is sizing isn't as standardized as you might think.
do pharmacies in boston carry ipecac? i'll be right over