I'm not making that story up.
He literally wrote the ending on a napkin while having an overpriced meal.
He set records on the hitlerscale.
I
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Yeah. Casey Hudson had a completely different idea of what Mass Effect was actually about from the people who were actually writing it. Which is, uh, a bit unfortunate.
I have never bought Mass Effect 3
I have Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
But the shit I heard about 3 and general direction the series was taking gameplay wise didn't agree with me.
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
One thing with DoTA is you have to kind of know all 3 roles a bit. But learning a champ is something you can do at will. Because @milk ducks and @21stCentury are playing support I have had to learn new roles which means new characters. Luckily I can learn any one that seems fun. And if I don't like the hero no waste in picking them up. No worries about a rotation so I can try the character I want.
Most people don't try to do an A-Z challenge in DoTA. They learn a character for each role or a few and try to stick with them.
The day Chris Metzen croaks will be the biggest boon to Blzizard's creativity and storytelling in 20 years.
him and that guy that did ME3's ending should get together and do the story for a game
It will be as weird as Bioshock Infinite's plot but as nonsensical as a republican healthcare plan and the whole game the big bad spouts bullshit non sequiturs at you like "THE CREATED WILL ALWAYS DESTROY THEIR CREATORS"
The guy who did ME3s ending wasn't even the story guy.
It was like here are our storytellers
But then at the end the BOSSMAN comes in and is like hey guys I wrote this ending on a napkin while eating lobster. Let's use this.
But boss, this is kind of shi--
FINISH THAT SENTENCE AND YOURE FIRED STEVE
Boss it sounds excellent!
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
That's why the thing that actually got me riled up was the "visionary artistic integrity" meowling.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
didn't we already know Heidegger was a nazi?
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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kaleeditySometimes science is more art than scienceRegistered Userregular
pretty sure the new big mode add-on for the diablo expansion is essentially removing everything story-related
which is fine, especially compared to what it is now where I am periodically forced to mash spacebar to avoid mighty shittily written dialogue
I'm not making that story up.
He literally wrote the ending on a napkin while having an overpriced meal.
He set records on the hitlerscale.
I
What
: (
Yeah. Casey Hudson had a completely different idea of what Mass Effect was actually about from the people who were actually writing it. Which is, uh, a bit unfortunate.
I have never bought Mass Effect 3
I have Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
But the shit I heard about 3 and general direction the series was taking gameplay wise didn't agree with me.
90% of ME3 is really, really good. They re-added some of the complexity to the weapon and skill-tree systems that got cut out from ME2, and tying off the companion stories is immensely satisfying. The ending is super-dumb, but I've decided that the actual ending is when you finish the Citadel DLC.
Not having all the champs available bothered me until I realized it takes like a hundred games to get a champ down
so I'm x+100 games from learning a butt load of champs where x is how many games it takes to unlock them
but still for my first 99 games I won't know waht I'm doing, I just have to learn a champ that maybe I don't want to learn
learning is iterative. You don't go from scrub to god tier after a certain number of games.
The first game with the champ is likely to be your worst all things being equal.
right so what's the difference what's open to me?
Because it allows players to select champs in a manor I find distasteful at the small expense of instant gratification.
Also, if you just want to play Champ X, and are only interested in playing Champ X, and researched Champ X, and are super mad that you have to play up to 20 whole games of Champs A-H to unlock him. Well, I'll just give you the $2.
Cutting all the dialogue (not when you talk to NPCs just, outside of that) would have made Diablo 3 a much more interesting game
the player would have learned about the world mostly from what they saw (and the world is actually pretty interesting and well designed)
get rid of the pre-bossfight-cutscenes too, you just walk into the chamber and the butcher runs out and starts chopping at your dangly bits like he did in Diablo 1
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TTODewbackPuts the drawl in ya'llI think I'm in HellRegistered Userregular
Hearthstone bores me.
They should make the characters come out of the cards and fight or something when you attack.
Instead they just made it a plain old card game.
I guess the one up side is that you're playing a card game on a computer so you don't have to deal with looking like a dork in public.
Bless your heart.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
I think playing a complex champ like Yasuo when you are brand new hinders your ability to learn the meta game required to successfully play a complex champ like Yasuo. It's not as simple as "here's a new champ learn this champ". It's also "This champ requires a deeper understanding of the metagame."
Let me give you an off the wall non lol example.
You are in the matrix and you are given the ability to perform advanced gymnastics and, I don't know, Krav Maga. You are up against another new guy with the ability to throw knives. That's it.
Only he knows you can run on walls and you don't. You don't even know how he's doing it when you see him doing it.
I'm not making that story up.
He literally wrote the ending on a napkin while having an overpriced meal.
He set records on the hitlerscale.
I
What
: (
Yeah. Casey Hudson had a completely different idea of what Mass Effect was actually about from the people who were actually writing it. Which is, uh, a bit unfortunate.
I have never bought Mass Effect 3
I have Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
But the shit I heard about 3 and general direction the series was taking gameplay wise didn't agree with me.
90% of ME3 is really, really good. They re-added some of the complexity to the weapon and skill-tree systems that got cut out from ME2, and tying off the companion stories is immensely satisfying. The ending is super-dumb, but I've decided that the actual ending is when you finish the Citadel DLC.
i didn't get the citadel DLC.
I didn't even finish my second run with Jarven.
stopped caring.
star child killed my joy.
the best thing about the me3 ending was that everything you did over 120+ hours of games and 5 years did not matter
not one shred of anything you had done with your character that you had finely sculpted to be your narrative mattered one single bit
god that was awesome
bravo
bra-fucking-vo
I love that Fallout New Vegas managed to incorporate all your assets for the final battle, every alliance you'd made pays off and you actually see all of them show up and help you
apparently that was too tall an order for a tiny studio like Bioware
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Deebaseron my way to work in a suit and a tieAhhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered Userregular
i dont even really remember the story of diablo 3
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TTODewbackPuts the drawl in ya'llI think I'm in HellRegistered Userregular
I'm not making that story up.
He literally wrote the ending on a napkin while having an overpriced meal.
He set records on the hitlerscale.
I
What
: (
Yeah. Casey Hudson had a completely different idea of what Mass Effect was actually about from the people who were actually writing it. Which is, uh, a bit unfortunate.
I have never bought Mass Effect 3
I have Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
But the shit I heard about 3 and general direction the series was taking gameplay wise didn't agree with me.
90% of ME3 is really, really good. They re-added some of the complexity to the weapon and skill-tree systems that got cut out from ME2, and tying off the companion stories is immensely satisfying. The ending is super-dumb, but I've decided that the actual ending is when you finish the Citadel DLC.
i didn't get the citadel DLC.
I didn't even finish my second run with Jarven.
stopped caring.
star child killed my joy.
the best thing about the me3 ending was that everything you did over 120+ hours of games and 5 years did not matter
not one shred of anything you had done with your character that you had finely sculpted to be your narrative mattered one single bit
god that was awesome
bravo
bra-fucking-vo
I love that Fallout New Vegas managed to incorporate all your assets for the final battle, every alliance you'd made pays off and you actually see all of them show up and help you
apparently that was too tall an order for a tiny studio like Bioware
The battle at the end of new vegas was dope as fuck.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
There was an old guy and he had a daughter and you couldn't fuck her and there was an angel that for some reason was less powerful than you even though he was a god damned (lol) angel.
I'm not making that story up.
He literally wrote the ending on a napkin while having an overpriced meal.
He set records on the hitlerscale.
I
What
: (
Yeah. Casey Hudson had a completely different idea of what Mass Effect was actually about from the people who were actually writing it. Which is, uh, a bit unfortunate.
I have never bought Mass Effect 3
I have Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
But the shit I heard about 3 and general direction the series was taking gameplay wise didn't agree with me.
90% of ME3 is really, really good. They re-added some of the complexity to the weapon and skill-tree systems that got cut out from ME2, and tying off the companion stories is immensely satisfying. The ending is super-dumb, but I've decided that the actual ending is when you finish the Citadel DLC.
i didn't get the citadel DLC.
I didn't even finish my second run with Jarven.
stopped caring.
star child killed my joy.
kaleeditySometimes science is more art than scienceRegistered Userregular
diablo 3 and others from this era will be kind of a big note in gaming's story telling
we're in this phase where games now have all this access to adding dialogue or visuals that look a lot like a full-on movie. Diablo 2 couldn't have even hoped to have as much dialogue as d3 on a technical level.
The problem is that movies aren't one to one with games in storytelling; you either have to focus game play on being tightly integrated with an involved story or you need to go really minimalist
we're still gonna get more mistakes like saturday morning diablo for like a decade or two but at least some studios might get out of that hole faster
the fuck was with Diablo taunting you for the entire last level
why do games all feel the need to do that these days
"You will soon meet my most deadly lieutenant!"
...
"Small victory, he was my worst lieutenant!"
diablo lore is complete fkn nonsense
also the writing is straight awful
i don't even know how anyone could get invested in it
It was far better when 90% of the lore was just shit your brain filled in about the world around you
exactly
exactly
diablo 2 invited you to speculate upon tyrael's motives, and any pet theories would've been far, far better than the dreck that diablo 3 came up with
tyrael should have remained an enigmatic mover and shaker, not literally humanized
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VanguardBut now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
edited March 2014
Religious Right talk show host Kevin Swanson railed against the Disney film Frozen on Wednesday, accusing Disney of using the movie to turn children gay.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
The 98 hours of New Vegas I've played would suggest that I've seen or played the final battle in New Vegas.
syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Productsregular
Man, the rage around ME3's ending still persists?
Fuck, it wasn't that bad. It was LESS than the whole of the series, sure... but I would still rate the whole trilogy, ending included, as one of the best game series of the last generation of games.
SW-4158-3990-6116
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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VanguardBut now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
i don't know about you
but pretty much the only reason i played any diablo was to pile up demon corpses
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I have never bought Mass Effect 3
I have Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.
But the shit I heard about 3 and general direction the series was taking gameplay wise didn't agree with me.
he also shit talked english ideology as paving the way for socialism
tru3 st0ry
Most people don't try to do an A-Z challenge in DoTA. They learn a character for each role or a few and try to stick with them.
That's why the thing that actually got me riled up was the "visionary artistic integrity" meowling.
which is fine, especially compared to what it is now where I am periodically forced to mash spacebar to avoid mighty shittily written dialogue
not one shred of anything you had done with your character that you had finely sculpted to be your narrative mattered one single bit
god that was awesome
bravo
bra-fucking-vo
90% of ME3 is really, really good. They re-added some of the complexity to the weapon and skill-tree systems that got cut out from ME2, and tying off the companion stories is immensely satisfying. The ending is super-dumb, but I've decided that the actual ending is when you finish the Citadel DLC.
The book hasn't been published yet but the bits that have been mentioned to the press seem to "prove" it more conclusively than in the past.
Because it allows players to select champs in a manor I find distasteful at the small expense of instant gratification.
Also, if you just want to play Champ X, and are only interested in playing Champ X, and researched Champ X, and are super mad that you have to play up to 20 whole games of Champs A-H to unlock him. Well, I'll just give you the $2.
"You will soon meet my most deadly lieutenant!"
...
"Small victory, he was my worst lieutenant!"
the player would have learned about the world mostly from what they saw (and the world is actually pretty interesting and well designed)
get rid of the pre-bossfight-cutscenes too, you just walk into the chamber and the butcher runs out and starts chopping at your dangly bits like he did in Diablo 1
They should make the characters come out of the cards and fight or something when you attack.
Instead they just made it a plain old card game.
I guess the one up side is that you're playing a card game on a computer so you don't have to deal with looking like a dork in public.
Let me give you an off the wall non lol example.
You are in the matrix and you are given the ability to perform advanced gymnastics and, I don't know, Krav Maga. You are up against another new guy with the ability to throw knives. That's it.
Only he knows you can run on walls and you don't. You don't even know how he's doing it when you see him doing it.
You take a knife to the face.
i didn't get the citadel DLC.
I didn't even finish my second run with Jarven.
stopped caring.
star child killed my joy.
Including the parts where we get to watch a favorite character die pointlessly and the super demon at the end.
Come Overwatch with meeeee
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this is a really good characterization, actually
I love that Fallout New Vegas managed to incorporate all your assets for the final battle, every alliance you'd made pays off and you actually see all of them show up and help you
apparently that was too tall an order for a tiny studio like Bioware
Starchild Joykiller is actually his full name.
The battle at the end of new vegas was dope as fuck.
There was an old guy and he had a daughter and you couldn't fuck her and there was an angel that for some reason was less powerful than you even though he was a god damned (lol) angel.
diablo lore is complete fkn nonsense
also the writing is straight awful
i don't even know how anyone could get invested in it
I prefer his stage name, Jake Lloyd
we're in this phase where games now have all this access to adding dialogue or visuals that look a lot like a full-on movie. Diablo 2 couldn't have even hoped to have as much dialogue as d3 on a technical level.
The problem is that movies aren't one to one with games in storytelling; you either have to focus game play on being tightly integrated with an involved story or you need to go really minimalist
we're still gonna get more mistakes like saturday morning diablo for like a decade or two but at least some studios might get out of that hole faster
It was far better when 90% of the lore was just shit your brain filled in about the world around you
deebs can I get that $2
some angel is defiant for some reason and is stripped of his powers + memory and sent to earth
deckard cain and his niece help you find him and restore his memory
deckard cain gets killed
deckard cain's niece turns out to be diablo
in between you kill a bunch of demons
i punched a lot of demons with lightning
at one point i fought a giant demon on a magic carpet or something
nerds
come to chu brunch
Mah puppy graduated puppy school last night!
I have a funny picture of her wearing a graduation hat... will post at lunch time!
exactly
exactly
diablo 2 invited you to speculate upon tyrael's motives, and any pet theories would've been far, far better than the dreck that diablo 3 came up with
tyrael should have remained an enigmatic mover and shaker, not literally humanized
That suggestion would be incorrect.
Fuck, it wasn't that bad. It was LESS than the whole of the series, sure... but I would still rate the whole trilogy, ending included, as one of the best game series of the last generation of games.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
but pretty much the only reason i played any diablo was to pile up demon corpses