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Hiking is some of the biggest bullshit ever.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Liiya wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    There could be a bee.

    Mayhap even a spider

    I only see spiders out and about if you get right up close a hedge they might be in. Our spiders are only wee beasties.

    You're talking me into moving to the UK.

    The UK has good vistas as seen from trains.

    And meat pies.





    And Literature.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Not all nature is bad

    The ocean, for example, kicks ass

    And either this Sunday or next Sunday is looking like it's going to be my first beach day of the year

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    Sometimes I just get the urge to eat a steak and kidney pie.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    There could be a bee.

    you could also get sweaty and muddy and injured in a countless number of ways

    as long as we're listing positives, I mean

    I loved when I'd accidentally fall into the creek and get super muddy. I wasn't supposed to be in the water/mud but it was always so much fun squishing and splashing around.

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    Our beaches are less than fantastic, thats a UK downside.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I kind of miss being as active as I was during high school. I ran cross country, and I did a ton of camping through Boy Scouts and all that. Like, I did my fair share of sitting on my ass playing video games even then, but I also spent a lot more time outside just...doing things. I mean, I worked at a camp for two years, I was camping like, once a month, and I was running, all that stuff. Now I mostly don't leave the apartment, and it's mostly because I'm lazy, and I kind of need to just...do something about it, already.

    Right now the trail I'd normally run on is probably mostly underwater because the record snowfall we had over the winter is melting and it's already basically a creek, and I don't have the money to buy a new pair of running shoes, but at some point those excuses are going to stop being relevant.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Liiya wrote: »
    Our beaches are less than fantastic, thats a UK downside.

    Brighton was charming!

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    When I was in junior high me and the family were out hiking a trail in the Wichita mountains wildlife refuge in Oklahoma, had our dog with us. We're at about the halfway point of the trail when the dog decides to go roll in a giant fresh pile of buffalo/longhorn crap.

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    Hm. I dunno if I'd fit in there.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I think my favorite part about the UK was trying to detect accents that did not match the local accent.

    I did this in Japan too, it's a lot of fun.

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Liiya wrote: »
    Our beaches are less than fantastic, thats a UK downside.

    Brighton was charming!


    Aww, that's a bonus then!

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    Hm. I dunno if I'd fit in there.


    Enjoying a meat pie isn't compulsory.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I also want to mention once more that the week I spent crewing a brigantine in the Pacific was so incredibly badass and I still think sometimes that the solution to all my problems is to drop everything and TAKE TO THE SEA

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I need to try a meat pie.

    I like meat, I like gravy. What could go wrong?

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    Liiya wrote: »
    Hm. I dunno if I'd fit in there.

    Enjoying a meat pie isn't compulsory.

    Oh no I would eat hella meat pies.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Liiya wrote: »
    Hm. I dunno if I'd fit in there.


    Enjoying a meat pie isn't compulsory.

    If there's anything visitors or migrants to the UK should be forced to eat, it's jellied eels.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I need to try a meat pie.

    I like meat, I like gravy. What could go wrong?

    Nothing.


    Nothing can go wrong.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I also want to mention once more that the week I spent crewing a brigantine in the Pacific was so incredibly badass and I still think sometimes that the solution to all my problems is to drop everything and TAKE TO THE SEA

    Gonna call you Ishmael.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I mentioned the hiking trip in New Mexico earlier, but really it's probably the most...outdoors-y thing I've ever done, and likely ever will do. It was two weeks in the mountains, and it was this big Scout...reservation? I don't really know the term, but it's called Philmont, and you're basically hiking from campsite to campsite with your tent and all of your gear, and you're picking up new food from waystations along the way, and there are other little stations and campgrounds along your trail, where you'd do shit like throw hatchets, or shoot black powder rifles. You'd have to set up bear bags, all that kind of thing. It was mostly really cool, aside from some drama that kind of slowly built up along the trip because two of the people there weren't really equipped for the hikes, and frustration kind of boiled over at the end.

    But along the way, there was a lot of cool shit. I mean, for one, it was pretty spectacular just to look at everything out there. You'd get used to the honestly pretty crappy food, because it kept you going and because you didn't really have any other choice (I probably still think boxed mashed potatoes are way better than they actually are). I rode a horse for the first time, and I found out I could actually throw tomahawks kind of well, which was pretty surprising. I lost a single shoe, and one of my biggest disappointments was that we had to skip the shotgun range, where I was going to shoot the crap out of its remaining partner. We ate lunch in a latrine one day, because it was the driest possible place, and then I almost got hypothermia because it got really fucking cold and I'm pretty sure we lost the trail on the way to our next campsite. I learned a song about girardia that I still can't really forget. And I got to see someone swear he could play Stairway to Heaven on guitar and comprehensibly fuck it up for the first time.

    And we took a train! It was kind of fucking crazy, and I kind of doubt I could do it again, but I'm really glad I did it

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    One time Vivienne and I were on a trip down south and I suggested to go for a walk so we did the trail to one of the climbing crags there.

    She told me she had never been more scared in her life.

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    One time my mom stepped in a banana slug.

    Not on.

    In.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I mean I've got enough of the sea shanties down that I should be good to set sail at any time

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Oh right, there was a mountain that everyone was supposed to climb, and there was basically no trail. It was just...a bunch of rocks and then a small ledge that you'd edge along before you went the rest of the way up to the highest point you could climb to. And I looked up once and decided that there was no fucking way I was going up there. And the Scoutmaster came up and was like "you're gonna regret not going up there later" and I kind of had to restrain myself from just laughing in his face a little bit? But I was kind of having a bit of a panic attack, so it wasn't really that hard. Anyways that was 10 years ago and I'm still like "I'm really glad I didn't go up that fucking mountain"

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I also want to mention once more that the week I spent crewing a brigantine in the Pacific was so incredibly badass and I still think sometimes that the solution to all my problems is to drop everything and TAKE TO THE SEA

    I need a new lawyer...

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    facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    I'm still not entirely sure on the precise difference between hiking and walking.

    "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
    Real strong, facetious.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Oh hey Geebs that 100 mile hike I mentioned was through Philmont
    I'm kinda tempted to work there over a future summer but that'd mean taking skeevy Boy Scouts of America dollars

    My favorite high adventure thing I did with Boy Scouts was a hiking and canoeing trip in Alaska. One week canoeing Birch Creek, to the wayyyy north, and four days hiking the Kesugi ridge, which runs parallel to Denali and the Alaska range but is maybe half to a third the height. Stunning scenery and wildlife. Killer mosquitoes. The only people we saw during the canoe trip were some yokels driving motorboats the opposite direction midway through the week.
    One of our guys fucked up his shoulder and we still had to finish the trip because there was no way to get him out of there - Philmont, in comparison, would've had him driven out to a medical facility in minutes to hours. Real fuckin middle of nowhere. We passed the road where the Chris McCandless bus is, to give you an idea of how far out the hiking was. And the canoeing was even further out. Alaska is scary.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    facetious wrote: »
    I'm still not entirely sure on the precise difference between hiking and walking.

    I would guess that hiking generally indicates that you're going a long distance through wilderness, most likely through elevated terrain
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    Oh hey Geebs that 100 mile hike I mentioned was through Philmont
    I'm kinda tempted to work there over a future summer but that'd mean taking skeevy Boy Scouts of America dollars

    My favorite high adventure thing I did with Boy Scouts was a hiking and canoeing trip in Alaska. One week canoeing Birch Creek, to the wayyyy north, and four days hiking the Kesugi ridge, which runs parallel to Denali and the Alaska range but is maybe half to a third the height. Stunning scenery and wildlife. Killer mosquitoes. The only people we saw during the canoe trip were some yokels driving motorboats the opposite direction midway through the week.
    One of our guys fucked up his shoulder and we still had to finish the trip because there was no way to get him out of there - Philmont, in comparison, would've had him driven out to a medical facility in minutes to hours. Real fuckin middle of nowhere. We passed the road where the Chris McCandless bus is, to give you an idea of how far out the hiking was. And the canoeing was even further out. Alaska is scary.

    That sounds pretty nuts. I think some local troops organized some trips up to some place called boundary waters, on the US/Canada border, that sounds basically similar to that, but I never went. I'm not sure why, maybe I was too young when they were organizing them, or something.

    And yeah, I'm really upset with the BSA for their shitty anti-gay policies, at the moment. Mostly because I got to experience a ton of really cool stuff through scouting and it's fucking awful to think that some kid or their parents won't get to experience that because of that shitty policy.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Walking is like, going to the fridge.

    You don't tell your friends about your great trip to your fridge do you?

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    TrueHereticXTrueHereticX We are the future Charles, not them. They no longer matter. Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    I dated a girl once who lived near a place called Minni H-Ha Falls (in Katoomba, Australia) there was a quite dangerous walk you could go on that would end up somewhere near Leura (I think?). Girlfriend at the time took me on it once, didn't warn me about the heights on it. Ended up having a panic attack and not being able to continue.

    Not my finest hour.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    I mean, I was an active Eagle Scout and Venturer up until I went to college, so like last August. I was pretty outspoken about my opinions about the Boy Scouts as an organization, but the sad fact of the matter is that even in liberal-ass northern Virginia, the Boy Scout parents and kids still tend towards military-grade conservative and patriarchal tendencies. So the second I got as many awards as I could buff my resume with (the last event I attended was getting my OA Vigil, which is a stupid rare and prestigious award), I ditched. No country for bisexual Buddhist nineteen year olds.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I could say that I wish I'd been more aware of that stuff when I was active in scouting but the reality is that when I was in high school, that stuff barely pinged on my radar. I do think they are...very slowly starting to work through some of that nonsense, but it's going to take a lot more pressure, and it's going to cost them some memberships. I can't help but imagine that they'd be stronger in the long run if they drove off some of the more deeply bigoted assholes, though.

    Last year I volunteered to help my cousins' Cub Scout pack as a liaison between the pack and my parents' church, and they sent me a survey asking me what I thought of the idea of letting gay youth or parents help out. I was probably supposed to check with the church, but I told them that I thought the policy was shitty and harmful to both kids and scouting as a whole. I doubt it had much of an effect, but I don't regret it.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    facetious wrote: »
    I'm still not entirely sure on the precise difference between hiking and walking.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiking

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Blake T wrote: »
    Walking is like, going to the fridge.

    You don't tell your friends about your great trip to your fridge do you?

    Depends on what I've got in there.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    do Scout badges really punch up the old resume that much?

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    do Scout badges really punch up the old resume that much?

    earning an Eagle Scout rank is a huge fucking deal, yeah

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I never could get a straight answer on why.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    That's the best kind of thing to do on the small scale. The sad fact of the way scouting is run is that so many dollars and top leaders at the high levels come in from troops that are sponsored by Mormon, Catholic, and other conservative/ religious groups (my Order of the Arrow lodge was also sponsored by the American Legion post for that chunk of Fairfax county) that the only way to really affect the broad organization is for their base to demand change, and for their press to become really awful.

    Girl Scouts are an entirely separate and much more progressive organization, but they also require more paperwork and insurance than filing taxes in order to do any fun stuff like hiking or even basic camping. This is why a lot of girl scouts drop out or join Venturing (which is run by the Boy Scouts).

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    It takes a lot of work, time, and requires some amount of leadership. There's a certain amount of respect attached to it, especially considering how, well, patriarchal most companies are, I guess.

    I dunno. I was told that it was a big deal even outside of scouting as I was in it, and I'm pretty sure Eagle Scouts come out of basic with a slightly higher rank in the military, so, I dunno. I've never been on the hiring side of things so I don't really know how much of an impact it has, and it's not really come up much in any interviews I've had since I earned mine

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Weirdly enough, a lot of scouting organizations in other countries are co-ed at almost all levels after primary school, and don't preach the freaky conservative shit American Boy Scouts are indoctrinated to. It's why they hand out condoms at the world jamborees, and stuff like that.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I kind of went off about the gays in scouting issue on twitter tonight and then this happened, so

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