VROOOM PSH VRROOOOOM [Car thread]

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  • pimentopimento she/they/pim Registered User regular
    Also useful if your 1st gear ends up being destroyed, as happened with my old mini.

  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    Decius wrote: »
    WOOOOOOOO!

    Just came back from a late night (well 9PM) practice with the stick. Was by myself. Used some tips from you guys, the stuff from my co-worker, and the excellent lessons from my dad. I am please to report that I can drive the car quite well. Just need to practice hills and traffic now, but I am close to being confident enough to use this as my DD where I live.

    Seriously after the frustrations experienced, I am on cloud fucking 9000 right now.

    Edit: Oh and I think I'll refrain from driving with sandals for a while.


    Hill starts are a drag, I've been driving stick for 6 years and I'm very comfortable in my car, still use the hand break.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Decius wrote: »
    WOOOOOOOO!

    Just came back from a late night (well 9PM) practice with the stick. Was by myself. Used some tips from you guys, the stuff from my co-worker, and the excellent lessons from my dad. I am please to report that I can drive the car quite well. Just need to practice hills and traffic now, but I am close to being confident enough to use this as my DD where I live.

    Seriously after the frustrations experienced, I am on cloud fucking 9000 right now.

    Edit: Oh and I think I'll refrain from driving with sandals for a while.


    Hill starts are a drag, I've been driving stick for 6 years and I'm very comfortable in my car, still use the hand break.

    Hand brakes are how you do hillstarts, though.

    Like, you put the car in gear and balance the clutch and throttle just right against the handbrake so that when you let it off, the car begins to accelerate away from standstill.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    So after my car got totalled last week my dad bought me a 2014 Honda Civic. He's gonna pass soon because of the cancer and he left me a not insignificant amount of money and said he wanted me to get a new, dependable car because of the warranty and how useful it would be overall. So I am gonna pay my mom the amount back (18k) when it happens.

    I am very, very happy. After driving a Suzuki Forenza for 6 years it is like I was in the stone age. I can plug in my phone and play everything and Bluetooth reads my texts to me while I drive and it is so smooth. I also get 70 mpg when going a consistent speed on the highway. I drove the 150ish mile trip from my hometown to back home and then all around my town for the week and I still have half a tank of gas.

    Basically I love this goddamn car.

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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    Decius wrote: »
    WOOOOOOOO!

    Just came back from a late night (well 9PM) practice with the stick. Was by myself. Used some tips from you guys, the stuff from my co-worker, and the excellent lessons from my dad. I am please to report that I can drive the car quite well. Just need to practice hills and traffic now, but I am close to being confident enough to use this as my DD where I live.

    Seriously after the frustrations experienced, I am on cloud fucking 9000 right now.

    Edit: Oh and I think I'll refrain from driving with sandals for a while.


    Hill starts are a drag, I've been driving stick for 6 years and I'm very comfortable in my car, still use the hand break.

    Hand brakes are how you do hillstarts, though.

    Like, you put the car in gear and balance the clutch and throttle just right against the handbrake so that when you let it off, the car begins to accelerate away from standstill.

    It was more of a "don't be afraid to use the handbrake" Maybe i just have jerks for friends, i get shit for it sometimes.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Yeah your friends are probably just jealous of your driving skills.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Decius wrote: »
    WOOOOOOOO!

    Just came back from a late night (well 9PM) practice with the stick. Was by myself. Used some tips from you guys, the stuff from my co-worker, and the excellent lessons from my dad. I am please to report that I can drive the car quite well. Just need to practice hills and traffic now, but I am close to being confident enough to use this as my DD where I live.

    Seriously after the frustrations experienced, I am on cloud fucking 9000 right now.

    Edit: Oh and I think I'll refrain from driving with sandals for a while.


    Hill starts are a drag, I've been driving stick for 6 years and I'm very comfortable in my car, still use the hand break.

    Hand brakes are how you do hillstarts, though.

    Like, you put the car in gear and balance the clutch and throttle just right against the handbrake so that when you let it off, the car begins to accelerate away from standstill.

    Pffft, quick feet are how you do hillstarts (driven way too many hills in my time though).

    As far as 2nd and 3rd - probably don't need that as the bogginess of the WRX turbo at low revs means you don't need to worry about ice starts like you would a normally aspirated car. Also, if you get snows for the WRX, you will have a snow MONSTER that spits on anything less than 6 inches of wintry mix.

  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    My WRX has "hill assist" where it does the braking for me for probably a second or two. Very helpful but disconcerting if it does not engage for whatever reason sometimes haha.

  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Neither of my manual equipped cars had working handbrakes when I bought them, so I never learned to do hill starts with the brake. I got on just fine.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Decius wrote: »
    WOOOOOOOO!

    Just came back from a late night (well 9PM) practice with the stick. Was by myself. Used some tips from you guys, the stuff from my co-worker, and the excellent lessons from my dad. I am please to report that I can drive the car quite well. Just need to practice hills and traffic now, but I am close to being confident enough to use this as my DD where I live.

    Seriously after the frustrations experienced, I am on cloud fucking 9000 right now.

    Edit: Oh and I think I'll refrain from driving with sandals for a while.


    Hill starts are a drag, I've been driving stick for 6 years and I'm very comfortable in my car, still use the hand break.

    Hand brakes are how you do hillstarts, though.

    Like, you put the car in gear and balance the clutch and throttle just right against the handbrake so that when you let it off, the car begins to accelerate away from standstill.

    Pffft, quick feet are how you do hillstarts (driven way too many hills in my time though).

    As far as 2nd and 3rd - probably don't need that as the bogginess of the WRX turbo at low revs means you don't need to worry about ice starts like you would a normally aspirated car. Also, if you get snows for the WRX, you will have a snow MONSTER that spits on anything less than 6 inches of wintry mix.

    Rexies are good for the beach, too. As long as you haven't fitted 21 inch chromies and rubber band tyres, you can just let the stocks down to about 12-14 psi and cruise on the sand. Probably best if you have a tyre guage and a compressor to pump them back up with if you are going to try that though...

  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    Someone tell me that I don't need to trade my fully paid off 2004 WRX sedan with 135k miles on it in for a 2012 Fiat 500 Abarth with 7k miles.

    Someone tell me this thing.

  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    Also, handbrakes are not at all how you do hill starts in a manual.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Someone tell me that I don't need to trade my fully paid off 2004 WRX sedan with 135k miles on it in for a 2012 Fiat 500 Abarth with 7k miles.

    Someone tell me this thing.

    That would be stupid, yes.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Also, handbrakes are not at all how you do hill starts in a manual.

    Uh, yeah it is.

  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Someone tell me that I don't need to trade my fully paid off 2004 WRX sedan with 135k miles on it in for a 2012 Fiat 500 Abarth with 7k miles.

    Someone tell me this thing.

    Or you could get a 2012 WRX and not deal with squirrels under the hood of the Fiat.

  • DeciusDecius I'm old! I'm fat! I'M BLUE!Registered User regular
    My current 09 Impreza has shown me the prowess of a Subaru in winter. I just love puttering by bros in their jacked up rig rockets while they're spinning their tires trying to find traction.

    Usually give them a wave, then accelerate away.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    i highly recommend reviewing the last half todays F1 race. best in the last couple of years, 5 cars within 3 seconds of the lead in the final 10 laps

    Jasconius on
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Also, handbrakes are not at all how you do hill starts in a manual.

    Uh, yeah it is.

    Eh, past your first year with a stick, not really.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Someone tell me that I don't need to trade my fully paid off 2004 WRX sedan with 135k miles on it in for a 2012 Fiat 500 Abarth with 7k miles.

    Someone tell me this thing.

    Why would you want a slower car?

  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    i highly recommend reviewing the last half todays F1 race. best in the last couple of years, 5 cars within 3 seconds of the lead in the final 10 laps

    Right up until Massa fucks up, anyway. The Martini livery still looks so odd on the Williams. Can't get used to it.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Also, handbrakes are not at all how you do hill starts in a manual.

    Uh, yeah it is.

    Eh, past your first year with a stick, not really.

    Not if you slip into lazy driving habits, no.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    i highly recommend reviewing the last half todays F1 race. best in the last couple of years, 5 cars within 3 seconds of the lead in the final 10 laps

    Right up until Massa fucks up, anyway. The Martini livery still looks so odd on the Williams. Can't get used to it.

    Wasn't Massa's fault. Perez already penalized. He blocked. Massa had huge momentum, there was room for both, Perez juked

  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Ah, that's good then. I left pretty much as soon as the race was over and hadn't heard that. Tell you though, I didn't see that on the replay, didn't really see much of anything except massive speed differential.

  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Also, handbrakes are not at all how you do hill starts in a manual.

    Uh, yeah it is.

    Eh, past your first year with a stick, not really.

    Not if you slip into lazy driving habits, no.

    The fuck?

    The handbrake is not the proper way to perform an uphill start in a manual unless you are new to driving or exceptionally lazy.

  • pimentopimento she/they/pim Registered User regular
    It's considered to be here. It's also technically illegal to roll back when hill starting, if memory serves me right. Certainly if the person behind stopped an inch from you and you rolled into them, you'd be at fault (but they'd still be a silly goose).

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Ah, that's good then. I left pretty much as soon as the race was over and hadn't heard that. Tell you though, I didn't see that on the replay, didn't really see much of anything except massive speed differential.

    the full speed replay was extremely hard to tell anything, but I think the reason the stewards cracked Perez is because his entry into the corner was very wide and permitting, and he waited far too late to close it

  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Also, handbrakes are not at all how you do hill starts in a manual.

    Uh, yeah it is.

    Eh, past your first year with a stick, not really.

    Not if you slip into lazy driving habits, no.

    See what I'm fucking talking about man? You say "Handbrake for hill starts" and someone is all "No you just suck at stick lol"

    Also I got home and heard a clang coming down my hill, which normally means my tire pressure is low and my exhaust scraped a little bump in my driveway.
    There is a fucking screw in my tire.
    I have a patch kit... just not something i wanted to have to do before work tomorrow.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    DrZiplock wrote: »
    Also, handbrakes are not at all how you do hill starts in a manual.

    Uh, yeah it is.

    Eh, past your first year with a stick, not really.

    Not if you slip into lazy driving habits, no.

    The fuck?

    The handbrake is not the proper way to perform an uphill start in a manual unless you are new to driving or exceptionally lazy.

    Yeah, it is. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If your vehicle is stationary on a hill, even at the lights and not parked, from a safety point of view, you should apply the handbrake. And the correct way to drive away from that situation is to load the drivetrain against the handbrake by balancing the throttle and clutch, then gently releasing the handbrake, and accelerating from there.

    As according to the law here, both professional driving instructors that taught me, both of my parents that learned to drive in England, every professional racing driver I've ever had the good luck to discuss the technique with (unfortunately only Mike Harvey and Tony Ricciardello have talked about hill starts with me), every civilian I've ever spoken to on the subject, both of the Army 12th Transport Division drivers that came to my school in the 5th grade and showed off some of their vehicles during an open day...

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah, it's not about skill, it's about ensuring you don't roll back when stationary. Why are you people sat at a standstill with your foot on the brake?

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Crossroads Speedway in Florida.

    What'd you DO, Jasc?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJPe3Trhnk8

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    I didn't even need to google to know that was in North Florida

    you need to be a hillbilly to put a kart on what appears to be a dirt oval

    actually last time I went to the track two guys did almost come to blows over whose corner belonged to who... glad that I race clean

  • DeciusDecius I'm old! I'm fat! I'M BLUE!Registered User regular
    Punching a guy who is wearing a helmet will always end well.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    That's why you take your own helmet off, and hit his helmet with it.

    Or you know, punch him in the guts?

    Or better yet, don't go to a kart track frequented by assholes.

  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Hah. The joke's on you. If you go to a dirt kart track, EVERYONE'S an asshole.

    Kakodaimonos on
  • IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost This is also my fault Registered User regular
    Poor financial move, because now you have to buy a new helmet since you hit a dude with it.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    somehow I doubt that they are actually worried about insurance compliance there

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's not about skill, it's about ensuring you don't roll back when stationary. Why are you people sat at a standstill with your foot on the brake?

    Because it's generally more reliable? Throughout my driving life, I've had E-brakes stretch, have issues holding cars on severe inclines and/or fail, not to mention have some "travel" in them when you go from foot brake to e-brake. None of those lead me to believe it's the proper or safe way to start or keep yourself safe on a hill. I'm going to have to disagree with it as the "right way" given realistic conditions on steep hills, as opposed to idealized or small hill conditions.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Poor financial move, because now you have to buy a new helmet since you hit a dude with it.

    Rental helmets, man. Very few people that go to rental go-kart tracks have their own helmets.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Yeah, it's not about skill, it's about ensuring you don't roll back when stationary. Why are you people sat at a standstill with your foot on the brake?

    Because it's generally more reliable? Throughout my driving life, I've had E-brakes stretch, have issues holding cars on severe inclines and/or fail, not to mention have some "travel" in them when you go from foot brake to e-brake. None of those lead me to believe it's the proper or safe way to start or keep yourself safe on a hill. I'm going to have to disagree with it as the "right way" given realistic conditions on steep hills, as opposed to idealized or small hill conditions.

    The park brake is literally supposed to keep your car parked on a hill. The cables do stretch slightly over time, but that should be adjusted at the next service. I'm not sure what you mean by 'travel' between the park brake and the foot brake? If you're taking off on a hill from a dead stop where the car was held stationary by the park brake, then you don't need to touch the foot brake anyway.

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Yeah, it's not about skill, it's about ensuring you don't roll back when stationary. Why are you people sat at a standstill with your foot on the brake?

    Because it's generally more reliable? Throughout my driving life, I've had E-brakes stretch, have issues holding cars on severe inclines and/or fail, not to mention have some "travel" in them when you go from foot brake to e-brake. None of those lead me to believe it's the proper or safe way to start or keep yourself safe on a hill. I'm going to have to disagree with it as the "right way" given realistic conditions on steep hills, as opposed to idealized or small hill conditions.

    The park brake is literally supposed to keep your car parked on a hill. The cables do stretch slightly over time, but that should be adjusted at the next service. I'm not sure what you mean by 'travel' between the park brake and the foot brake? If you're taking off on a hill from a dead stop where the car was held stationary by the park brake, then you don't need to touch the foot brake anyway.

    Also, over here in the land where driving tests are more than "once around the block with no left turns" it's an automatic fail if you come to a complete stop without applying the handbrake.

    If you're in a queue of traffic with your foot on the brake and someone shunts you from behind, your foot will come off the brake and you'll go into the car in front. We're taught that if the car is stopped then the handbrake should be applied. Which means that by default you'll be doing a hill start with the handbrake.

    The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
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