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    Bear is DrivingBear is Driving Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    My bias against the FRS/BRZ stems entirely from the fact that every one of them around here are driven by assholes. It has put me off those cars entirely.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    The Chevrolet SS is going to be getting a 6-speed manual with a 3.70 rear-end gear, optional magnetic ride control, and will be available in Alchemy Purple.

    Suddenly the SS is a much more attractive car to me.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Going to be?

    It's always had those things here.

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    msuitepyonmsuitepyon Registered User regular
    So wife and I are looking at a 2013 Ford Escape (Ford Kuga for you Euros). Thoughts?

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Good.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Going to be?

    It's always had those things here.

    Yeah, the US version was kind of gimped from the start.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    Going to be?

    It's always had those things here.

    Yeah, the US version was kind of gimped from the start.

    Probably scared of it running rings around everything else in Chevys lineup besides the Corvette...

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    ICUbICUb WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2014
    msuitepyon wrote: »
    So wife and I are looking at a 2013 Ford Escape (Ford Kuga for you Euros). Thoughts?

    Look at a 2013 Focus ST instead! just as *cough* practical *cough*. And pretty!

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2014
    i've been driving my girlfriends family 2006 Mustang the last few days

    that car is a pleasure to operate. it's just the V6 model

    but when your daily drive is an RX-8, driving a Mustang around is kind of like that week after the dentist appointment when you are still running through the opiate prescription but there's no more pain to manage

    it's numb, and sometimes that's a good thing

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    pimentopimento she/they/pim Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    So a guy decided that a rocket powered supercharger was a great idea. Then moved onto auxilliary power units that attached to your diff.. that were also rocket powered.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    There's an old tale about a bloke that got a RATO (rocket assisted take off, in simple terms, a little rocket motor that fits on to an aircraft and helps it get up to takeoff speed on short runways which is jettisoned after use) unit off of a military cargo plane and fitted it to a car. They come in different sizes, but apparently the one fitted to the car was big enough to accelerate it up to about mach 0.5, and get airborne. Whereupon it crashed into the side of a mountain.

    It's an urban legend, and Mythbusters have had a go at it a few times, I believe.

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    schussschuss Registered User regular
    Oddly enough, not the first turbo 4 Mustang.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_SVO

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    I think my favorite rocket propelled vehicle is the time the top gear guys had an original mini run down an olympic ski jump with three rockets on the back.

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    pimentopimento she/they/pim Registered User regular
    I just like that the guy above didn't just use the thrust to shove the car along like some amatuer, his rockets powered turbines that either powered a supercharger or provided additional drive directly to the rear diff.

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    zerzhulzerzhul Registered User, Moderator mod
    so we've now completed the cycle of new cars for myself and my wife. We started the year with a combined 350k miles between our two cars. We now have 9300 between our two cars, with hers carrying 51 of those :P

    Tracked down and got her a 2015 Honda Fit EX, replacing our 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe. It is looking like the gas savings alone will pay for the new car.

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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    There's an old tale about a bloke that got a RATO (rocket assisted take off, in simple terms, a little rocket motor that fits on to an aircraft and helps it get up to takeoff speed on short runways which is jettisoned after use) unit off of a military cargo plane and fitted it to a car. They come in different sizes, but apparently the one fitted to the car was big enough to accelerate it up to about mach 0.5, and get airborne. Whereupon it crashed into the side of a mountain.

    It's an urban legend, and Mythbusters have had a go at it a few times, I believe.

    First version of this I found was the Darwin Awards back in the nascent days of the internet.

    Mythbusters seemed to call foul on it because there's no way to attack the RATO to a car without the engine shearing off its mountings, which was dumb to me because, well, somehow engineers get these things to mate to aircraft.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Let's not forget this gem

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpUMSarCSQw

    Apparently no one thought to consult an engineer or anyone with a basic understanding of physics in that 4 years.

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    CormacCormac Registered User regular
    Well I'm batting zero on my plans for tuning my GTI. The dealership I bought the car from was a Unitronic reseller when I bought the car three months ago, but they very recently sent back all the hardware and are no longer. The next nearest reseller of a different tune, APR, is roughly an hour and a half away and I'd have to take a day off from work to go. I was planning on being in that area to see Guardians of the Galaxy that weekend with friends so that's not really an issue.

    A very highly rated independent important car garage isn't willing to install a turboback exhaust I fortunately have not ordered yet. I don't blame them since they'd be responsible if anything goes wrong with it, but that's why I'd much rather have professionals do it than me in my garage. I may have better luck with the garage up the street I used for years on my old car because they installed some parts for me that I bought before. I'd like to believe I have the mechanical ability to install a downpipe and catback myself, but it's something I'm much happier paying a professional to do. There are a few other independent import garages around so I'll have to send some emails or make a few phone calls and see if anyone is willing to do the install for me.

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    DeciusDecius I'm old! I'm fat! I'M BLUE!Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    Congrats @zerzhul‌. I'm sure the wife will love that car, and the savings will be awesome. In the meantime....

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    So I managed to buy a car that (a) uses more gas then the previous one, and (b) requires more expensive gas. Oops.

    Edit: That's 20.28 miles per gallon for the metrically impaired.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Cormac wrote: »
    Well I'm batting zero on my plans for tuning my GTI. The dealership I bought the car from was a Unitronic reseller when I bought the car three months ago, but they very recently sent back all the hardware and are no longer. The next nearest reseller of a different tune, APR, is roughly an hour and a half away and I'd have to take a day off from work to go. I was planning on being in that area to see Guardians of the Galaxy that weekend with friends so that's not really an issue.

    A very highly rated independent important car garage isn't willing to install a turboback exhaust I fortunately have not ordered yet. I don't blame them since they'd be responsible if anything goes wrong with it, but that's why I'd much rather have professionals do it than me in my garage. I may have better luck with the garage up the street I used for years on my old car because they installed some parts for me that I bought before. I'd like to believe I have the mechanical ability to install a downpipe and catback myself, but it's something I'm much happier paying a professional to do. There are a few other independent import garages around so I'll have to send some emails or make a few phone calls and see if anyone is willing to do the install for me.

    It's an exhaust. Shouldn't take a workshop with hoists and powertools more than an hour, and that's if they're not busy. Two blokes could probably get your old exhaust out and a new one installed in 20 minutes if they work fast.

    So, I wouldn't trust wherever you're getting those positive ratings for the garage from.

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    CormacCormac Registered User regular
    I talked to the manager of the garage and he said he was not willing to install the exhaust. Unfortunate but I'm going to call a few more places tomorrow and see if any of them are willing to do it. I'd prefer to go to a VW/Audi specialist but the install is really simple regardless of the car.

    I'm going by SureCritic reviews of the garage, Upstate Imports, and I tried them first primarily because they're 15 minutes from where I live.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    To be honest, that's pretty weird. A turbo-back exhaust is pretty damn simple to fit. Even on newer cars with wiring to hook up to oxygen sensors and heated catalytic convertors!

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    pimentopimento she/they/pim Registered User regular
    Liability, perceived responsibility if anything goes wrong with it, all that stuff. I can understand why they'd be hesitant, all it would take is one shitty customer to ruin your experience of installing parts that you didn't supply yourself.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    It's weird because most independent shops in the US just have you sign a waiver that anything other than a direct installation related issue (i.e. the exhaust falls off because they didn't mount it correctly) is none of their business. You put on a new exhaust and your turbo fails? Not their problem, you've signed the waiver.

    I really can't believe that a shop would turn you down.

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    msuitepyonmsuitepyon Registered User regular
    Do it yourself good sir.

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    CormacCormac Registered User regular
    I do know someone who has the tools and vastly more car repair knowledge than I do who may be able to help me with the install so that option is there. However, I'd like to see if a garage/professional is willing to do it first.

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    schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    Decius wrote: »
    Congrats zerzhul‌. I'm sure the wife will love that car, and the savings will be awesome. In the meantime....

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    So I managed to buy a car that (a) uses more gas then the previous one, and (b) requires more expensive gas. Oops.

    Edit: That's 20.28 miles per gallon for the metrically impaired.

    If you stay off the turbo, you can get 26-27 mpg, but that's no fun (spoken from experience).

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    msuitepyonmsuitepyon Registered User regular
    Plus 95% city driving isn't helping much. A boost gauge might be in order for you.

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    DeciusDecius I'm old! I'm fat! I'M BLUE!Registered User regular
    Yeah I really need to get my Accessport mounted and wired up so I can have a live boost gauge.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    gave my car its first full dose of race formulated 2-stroke oil today

    mmm MMMM yes, the smooth has gotten smoother. can't wait for the weather to get cold again

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    That's interesting. In the fuel or in the engine?

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    in the fuel, about 4 ounces per 12 gallons

    http://www.pettitracing.com/protek-r/

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    I like how they're like "there's especially wear and tear on turbo and high-revving rotary engines!"

    So, all rotary engines then.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    in the fuel, about 4 ounces per 12 gallons

    http://www.pettitracing.com/protek-r/

    A 1:384 premix ratio? That's extremely low. Like, to the point where it's unlikely to have much effect at all, surely? Considering that there's so little fuel in the cylinder per combustion cycle, and then 1 out of 385 parts of that is lubricant? You're getting into homeopathy territory there.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Supposedly adding that to what's already in there makes it 200:1

    I'm starting small because there a anecdotes of oil clogging up the fuel lines

    I'm noticing less low RPM drone. Nothing else measurable yet

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    What's already in there? Fuel doesn't have leaded upper cylinder lubricants in it anymore, hasn't since the 80's.

    The oil shouldn't clog up the fuel lines, but if you run it too rich it will foul your plugs, and if you go really crazy with it and run it at 1:25 like you're on an old dirtbike from the 70's, it will also completely fuck your catalytic convertor.

    Also, running premix should make literally zero difference to the exhaust note. It doesn't change valve timing, lift, or overlap, and doesn't change the physical properties of the exhaust system at all.

    The best possible thing you can do for rotary engine life is have the motor fully rebuilt with all the best seals and modifications, like having the housings fully dowelled to increase the rigidity of the motor etc. etc. That's thousands and thousands of dollars though, so just keep the oil clean, and don't thrash it until it's warmed up.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    @chrishallett83‌ he's referring to the oil that's added by the oil squirters in the engine. So with the oil already being sprayed into the rotor housing + the added 2-stroke oil, it come out to 200:1.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Also there could be some small change to exhaust note based on changes to combustion from messing with the oil to gasoline ratio. Not sure what threshold you need to be at to make it noticeable though.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited July 2014
    jgeis wrote: »
    @chrishallett83‌ he's referring to the oil that's added by the oil squirters in the engine. So with the oil already being sprayed into the rotor housing + the added 2-stroke oil, it come out to 200:1.

    correct, the oil content of the rotor housing is effectively doubled... from "homeopathy" to "slightly more than homeopathy"

    there might even be less than 400:1 conventional there.... my oil burn has been way way way way less than the horror stories, and I am in brutal weather, maybe 1 liter throughout an entire oil change

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Ah, I thought Jasc was implying that there was some other premixing setup on the fuel system somewhere that I was unaware of.

    Most folks in the performance rotary scene delete the manifold oil injection system because it's a steady-state system that doesn't alter oil addition rates with engine speed and load, and therefore completely fucks up fuel/air ratio metering. Which helps explain why premix is so popular in those circles...

    As for engine note differences, the added premix oil might fuck with the octane rating of the fuel? Maybe it's igniting a little earlier? You still shouldn't be able to hear a difference as slight as that would be through a full factory exhaust system though.

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