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Conception II: Tokimeki Memorial meets Persona?

KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
edited April 2014 in Games and Technology
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Official Website: http://www.atlus.com/conception2/home.html

Teaser Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbZQSHvcdJI

What is Conception 2?

Lets let Atlus explain it:

Monsters have invaded the world of Aterra, and only a few special individuals, imbued with the power of the Star God, are equipped to fight it. With only a small group of warriors and a narrow window of time in which their powers are at their peak, the solution is clear: combine your Star power to make magical Star Children to boost up your forces in battle!

The life of a student can be complicated when you're exploring dungeons, fighting monsters, AND trying to maintain a high school lifestyle. Learn to balance your activities because the deeper the bond you have with your classmates, the stronger the Star Children you'll make! In this stimulating JRPG, you'll be able to create bonds with 7 different female Disciples and create 30 classes of Star Children, so you must learn how to create the perfect Star Children for any situation. In no time, you'll have dozens of powerful kids with different skills that can take on everything the monsters throw at you.

Ok, how about that in English?

It's a console roguelike-lite with mechanics similar to Perosna's S-link system. Your hero has to work on his relationship with several girls to make "star children" - short and cute bioweapons -- in order to fight off monsters. Besides the main character and whichever girl he's dating at the time, your party gets 3 groups of 3 star children NPCs with them, expanding the strategy element immensely. Star Children can be any of 30 classes, most of which are unlocked as you play the game.

Plot wise, the heroines are the powerhouses, but they need Ether to do anything -- and the hero is the only source of Ether in the dungeon.

April 15th for Vita and 3DS in the US; it will be on the eShops in Europe in Q2. A demo is available now.

Localization interview.

Unboxing Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7-DRWgdfxM

Japanese playthrough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86bHyJsYxC4

Heroine trailers:
(Links changed to the Siliconera pages due to way, way too many videos)

Torri: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/11/meet-torri-one-heroines-conception-ii/
Fuuko: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/14/meeting-conception-iis-dual-pistol-wielding-fuuko/
Ellie and Chloe: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/19/meet-two-conception-iis-heroines-ellie-chloe/
Narika and Serina: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/03/21/meet-conception-iis-narika-serina/
Feene: http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/02/conception-iis-feene-introduced-new-trailer/

Japanese wiki:
http://conception2084.wiki.fc2.com/ (They may have banned all US IPs again, if you get a 503 error, try again later.)

Japanese trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF_m3zT9kg0


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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    Oh man, and I thought Agarest War was silly.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Oh

    My

    God

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    I really, really don't get the reaction people are having to this. But then again, I've looked at a Japanese cartoon or comic book in the past 15 years, so I guess my bar is set a bit high.
    I didn't even mention how the most min-maxxy thing you can do in game is date two girls at once and have a threesome to create uber Star Children.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Doesn't sound very min-maxxy.

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    PLA wrote: »
    Doesn't sound very min-maxxy.

    If I'm understanding the wiki correctly, your star children get a significant portion of their stats from Mommy.
    Two mommies? Double the stats. The various girls are all focused on one or more stats or themes -- tank, glass cannon, agility, etc. By picking two, you can apparently undo the downsides of the girls, or double up on the bonuses.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    I really, really don't get the reaction people are having to this.

    Then you aren't reading those screen caps.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    KiTA wrote: »
    I really, really don't get the reaction people are having to this.

    Then you aren't reading those screen caps.

    It's not as bad as you think! Some of it is pretty dumb, but the combat is fun and OMG the kids are flippin' cute a hell.

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I didn't say it was bad.

    It's just fucking insane.

    I've had the game pre-ordered for a long time.

  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Ah, good. I thought we were going to have another instance of someone freaking the heck out about this game. (The last time this game was brought up in the Vita thread, we had some armchair moral crusader have a rather epic meltdown over it.)

    I personally don't think a tongue in cheek double entente in a screenshot over a rather absurdest premise is all that shocking (hell, the children come out of RICE COOKERS after the act) but then again, I've translated Japanese comics in my spare time for 10 years, so my bar is a bit high for shock value nowadays.

  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    I was going to say something, but then changed my mind and wasn't going to, but by then the draft was already saved.

    I dislike the draft saver.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    KiTA wrote: »
    Ah, good. I thought we were going to have another instance of someone freaking the heck out about this game. (The last time this game was brought up in the Vita thread, we had some armchair moral crusader have a rather epic meltdown over it.)

    And I don't doubt them a bit. This is absolute Insane Cake with Crazy Sauce. There's plenty to take the absolute worst way possible and I don't fault anyone for going that route. You're literally sexing up as many women as possible, as many at the same time as you can, so they "make babies" that you literally use as battle fodder. The game is BUILT on the premise, it's not just one double entendre screenshot.

    I mean.

    C'mon.

    The only saving grace is it's SO dang nuts that it literally goes into parody for me even tho I know dang well it's not. This is one of those games I buy just so I can see the expression on peoples' faces when they ask me what I'm playing.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    I think it went past "take seriously" when the Star Children came out as fully grown midgets out of a rice cooker, myself. :)

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    That is literally the best part.

    i'ma rice cook muh behbeh

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Alternate theme song for the game.

    Paste that onto the opening video.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    So far this is somewhat tame, although admittedly I'm really not very far in.

  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Ellie gives off the impression that I'm going to wake up to her eating the star children before coming and murdering GG

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    KiTA wrote: »
    So far this is somewhat tame, although admittedly I'm really not very far in.

    Its about as harem anime as harem anime gets, and they aren't afraid of double entendre-ing the classmating system any chance that comes along(which gets pretty damn funny at times), but the game doesn't otherwise appear to carry anything that seems to be particularly offensive - at least insofar as anything that might offend me anyway(which is admittedly a markedly small list). Some of the skimpy female battle outfits might put some people off though.

    I believe they also make it a point to explain that the star children are not actually human children so much as spirits of battle that are constructed(? They don't explain much past this) through the process of the protagonist and his partner fueling the matroyoshkvashama dealie with their powers.

    It's actually a pretty damn fun game so far even if it is a little shounen-typical at times.

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  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Man, I can't believe how lewd the classmating scenes are. I mean, my god... holding hands!? UNACCEPTABLE!

    Worthy of it's M rating.

    EDIT: also want to make a point that the hand-holding (no pun intended) at the start of the game is kind of silly. The tutorials are easy enough to skip but I feel like the first dungeon is a big care-bear package wrapped in bubble-wrap and nerf-foam... also while not having time limits on stuff is nice; resetting the "hearts" that you can spend to get bond points and make the heroines like you more seems kind of cheesy, especially since that directly helps you get more and better star children... but I'm probably exaggerating it. Only serious problem is having to switch out heroines so they don't fall behind in levels.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
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    Er, I think I passed this point a bit ago (I'm playing it REALLY slowly due to RL stuff) but I think they changed "make children" to "classmating." The pun really makes it less ... controversial and more derp.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Should I be keeping the heroines leveled the same? I've been just rolling with Narika, and we're up to level 25 I think. The closest is Ellie at level 11. I suppose it isn't too hard to work on raising relationships with the other girls, making babbys and running through previous dungeons to level them. I've only cleared two story dungeons and two side dungeons. I'm just wondering if I should bother with them.


    Also, I'm not finding any heroine weapon parts anywhere. That's how it works, right? Heroines don't get new weapons, but you can find upgrades for them?

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
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    :^:

    Er, I think I passed this point a bit ago (I'm playing it REALLY slowly due to RL stuff) but I think they changed "make children" to "classmating." The pun really makes it less ... controversial and more derp.

    I find myself wishing they had left it as it was. Offense aside, that's some funny shit.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure I saw that exact screen when I started playing. Not that it bugs me. The game makes me cringe every so often, but it's more cute than anything. Especially the Star Children:

    "Pops runs so fast!"

    Narika-"Don't go wandering off now."

    "I'll stay close to you, Mum!"

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    So, I kinda don't like the labyrinths. I feel like they drag on too long, and I start getting bored by the third floor. The relationship stuff is surprisingly good, though. I just started cracking through Serina's super mean exterior.

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Question: the last three games I've played were Pokemon Y, Bravely Default, and Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy 13. Some "you may likes" that have come up based on those games are:
    Person 4 (Playstation 3 version)
    Tales of the Abyss
    Fire Emblem Awakening
    Conception II

    Does anyone have a recommendation that could tilt me one way or another?

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Fire Emblem Awakening is definitely the best game on that list. Go with that one!

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    So how are folks liking it? All I've heard is a scathing review from Liam on the SuperBestFriendCast that amounted to "it's garbage" - and that guy knows his animoos and his jayarepeegees.

    Oh brilliant
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Well, the super jelly boob physics are painful to see, the dialogue is horrifically insipid and seems to be focused completely on tits and their size and you'll be sick of the constant double entendres by the third conversation. I haven't really been able to get past those to see if it's a good game yet.

  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    So how goodre folks liking it? All I've heard is a scathing review from Liam on the SuperBestFriendCast that amounted to "it's garbage" - and that guy knows his animoos and his jayarepeegees.

    Like P4G, the dungeons are very clearly its weak point. They basically amount to "hallway, room. Hallway, room." and tend to drag on more than they should. One thing I do like is that they adopt the Earthbound method of encounters where you kill weak enemies outright and still get full exp for it.

    But unlike P4G, while the social interactions are interesting, they're not extensive or interactive enough(so far anyway, I'm still on chapter 2) for you to ignore the rest of the game's problems.

    Game's pretty though. And the star children are "totes adorbs". But I'd say it's firmly in "good, but not great" territory overall.

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  • skyknytskyknyt Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah, the dungeon generation really needs to create more textured dungeons. I also didn't see my first trapped chest until the 5th labyrinth in.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Yeah, this is just a poor attempt to copy Persona 4 and it shows blatantly.

    Let me put it this way, it's as if Persona 4 had been developed by Juggz magazine.

  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    You know, this style of game has been around since Azure dreams or earlier. No one is 'copying persona 4' so much as 'making a weird dating dungeon crawler' which is a thing that exists in quite a few instances in the land of the rising sun.

    That being said, I'm enjoying it. The dungeons are pretty bog standard but you can at least leave every floor to poke around in town. I basically just rush a few floors, go back, do some scenes, go back and do a few floors. Swap out star children when they hit level cap.

    It isn't great but I don't regret buying it, its charming.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Huh. Some free DLCs, and some that apparently unlock special quests. Might as well kick a few bucks in to support them.

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  • skyknytskyknyt Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Azure Dream had a seriously amazing level generator.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    You know, this style of game has been around since Azure dreams or earlier. No one is 'copying persona 4' so much as 'making a weird dating dungeon crawler' which is a thing that exists in quite a few instances in the land of the rising sun.

    This is a carbon copy pf P4. It's not just "dating dungeon crawler" the star children work effectively the same as Personas, the combat is crazy similar the only difference being positioning of your attack and if those jiggle tits and constant reference to boob size is "charming" then we have violently different definitions of the word.

    That's the main difference it has to P4, this game lacks any kind of class whatsoever.

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    I fail to see how it's a copy of P3/4 for just being in the same genre. There's nothing even resembling the Persona system even or Persona's unique mechanics.

    It has far, far more in common with Azure Dreams and other games in the genre.

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  • BonepartBonepart Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    You know, this style of game has been around since Azure dreams or earlier. No one is 'copying persona 4' so much as 'making a weird dating dungeon crawler' which is a thing that exists in quite a few instances in the land of the rising sun.

    This is a carbon copy pf P4. It's not just "dating dungeon crawler" the star children work effectively the same as Personas, the combat is crazy similar the only difference being positioning of your attack and if those jiggle tits and constant reference to boob size is "charming" then we have violently different definitions of the word.

    That's the main difference it has to P4, this game lacks any kind of class whatsoever.

    The title of the game is Conception. Why are you surprised at what you got?

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  • bssbss Brostoyevsky Madison, WIRegistered User regular
    To say Conception II plays like Persona 4 is to grossly misunderstand how either Persona 4 works or how Conception II works, unless one boils the games' mechanics down to "you fight things in a dungeon". I don't know. Constantly setting up this strawman as a way to beat up on some parts of the game you don't like is kind of wearing.

    I think it's a fun, silly, and yeah a bit charming of a game. I enjoy the dungeon stuff and the not-dungeon stuff. (The dungeon designs themselves do get boring though.) I've been playing Demon Gaze more, but I'm going to get back into it a bit this weekend, I think.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    I was seriously underwhelmed by the demo, and I love dungeon crawlers.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    It has some similarities. Nothing that stands out much.

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