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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    yeah veep is great

    i dunno how huge it is but it's consistently very funny

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    ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    I think I've worked out the haircut issue: (these are ADWD spoilers, and unfounded speculation)
    So Daenerys sits atop a funeral pyre and comes out unscathed, right. So they're going to burn Jon's corpse to avoid a case of wightification, but he's impervious to such a thing. But it takes off his hair. And brings him back to life in some as yet unspecified way.

    Prolegomena on
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    HermanoHermano Registered User regular
    My only problem with Veep is it's not quite as good as the Thick of It, though it's still very good


    PSN- AHermano
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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    Hermano wrote: »
    My only problem with Veep is it's not quite as good as the Thick of It, though it's still very good

    still haven't checked out the thick of it, but i did love in the loop

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I think I've worked out the haircut issue: (these are ADWD spoilers, and unfounded speculation)
    So Daenerys sits atop a funeral pyre and comes out unscathed, right. So they're going to burn Jon's corpse to avoid a case of wightification, but he's impervious to such a thing. But it takes off his hair. And brings him back to life in some as yet unspecified way.
    That would make sense in the books, Dany lost her hair in the bonfire in the books. But, not the tv show.

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I think I've worked out the haircut issue: (these are ADWD spoilers, and unfounded speculation)
    So Daenerys sits atop a funeral pyre and comes out unscathed, right. So they're going to burn Jon's corpse to avoid a case of wightification, but he's impervious to such a thing. But it takes off his hair. And brings him back to life in some as yet unspecified way.
    That would make sense in the books, Dany lost her hair in the bonfire in the books. But, not the tv show.
    Jon burned his hand really badly when he killed the wight attacking mormont. Unless you're saying the circumstances changed for a reason, we know that he's as vulnerable as anyone to fire.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I think I've worked out the haircut issue: (these are ADWD spoilers, and unfounded speculation)
    So Daenerys sits atop a funeral pyre and comes out unscathed, right. So they're going to burn Jon's corpse to avoid a case of wightification, but he's impervious to such a thing. But it takes off his hair. And brings him back to life in some as yet unspecified way.
    That would make sense in the books, Dany lost her hair in the bonfire in the books. But, not the tv show.
    Jon burned his hand really badly when he killed the wight attacking mormont. Unless you're saying the circumstances changed for a reason, we know that he's as vulnerable as anyone to fire.

    According to GRRM:
    Targaryens (and Dany in particular) are not immune to fire. Dany's birthing of dragons was a one-time, magical event. But as was pointed out, even in the books, she lost her hair.

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    ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    I thought of these things, but then I thought
    Melisandre will be all "I gotta do my witchy shit on Jon" and Bowen Marsh will be "nuh uh" so she'll go "fine, chuck him on the fire then" *wink wink* then she'll magic up the fire as she is wont to do.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    That's a good point.

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    ProlegomenaProlegomena Frictionless Spinning The VoidRegistered User regular
    This book better come out before I forget about this.

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I think I've worked out the haircut issue: (these are ADWD spoilers, and unfounded speculation)
    So Daenerys sits atop a funeral pyre and comes out unscathed, right. So they're going to burn Jon's corpse to avoid a case of wightification, but he's impervious to such a thing. But it takes off his hair. And brings him back to life in some as yet unspecified way.
    That would make sense in the books, Dany lost her hair in the bonfire in the books. But, not the tv show.
    Jon burned his hand really badly when he killed the wight attacking mormont. Unless you're saying the circumstances changed for a reason, we know that he's as vulnerable as anyone to fire.

    According to GRRM:
    Targaryens (and Dany in particular) are not immune to fire. Dany's birthing of dragons was a one-time, magical event. But as was pointed out, even in the books, she lost her hair.
    Yes they're not immune, but it does seem they, or at least Dany, are highly resistant. All of the first book and the pit scene in ADWD is full of examples of Dany being exposed to super hot things like the eggs after putting them in a fire and going into boiling hot water and while she feels the heat, isn't affected by it at all.
    Anyway, we have no such indications from Jon.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    so in the original DWD manuscript, Martin's editor has a handwritten note that reads "hey is Coldhands Benjen Stark or what"

    Martin's response:
    NO


    so what the FUCK

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    I always assumed coldhands is as old as Bloodraven, just a old dead NW member

    tinfoily its bran from the future once he learns he can weirwood.net any dead thing ever

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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    Throwing out an idea:
    Just as Catelyn is no longer Catelyn, but rather Coldheart now, in the same way, Benjen is no longer Benjen, but has become Coldhands.
    On a scale of 1 being a mildly bad odor to 10 being two tons of moist manure on a windless day, how much bullshit is this idea?

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    its as fair as the other theories, GRRM has his way with that stuff
    "Arya is dead, there is only "no one".

    heres the link for those interested as well

    http://i.imgur.com/FfI1goA.jpg

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    so in the original DWD manuscript, Martin's editor has a handwritten note that reads "hey is Coldhands Benjen Stark or what"

    Martin's response:
    NO


    so what the FUCK

    What's your source

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    so in the original DWD manuscript, Martin's editor has a handwritten note that reads "hey is Coldhands Benjen Stark or what"

    Martin's response:
    NO


    so what the FUCK

    What's your source


    I had it spoilered above

    but someone went into the Library where GRRM sent his manuscripts after his editor made notes


    ADWD SPOILERS

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    Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    You can read about it here

    reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2rtcaa/i_went_to_the_cushing_library_and_went_through/

    EDIT: don't click that link if you hate spoilers.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I dont know why people still thought he was Coldhands


    let it go

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I dont know why people still thought he was Coldhands


    let it go

    Who is he then

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Tom Bombadil

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    Bad-BeatBad-Beat Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I dont know why people still thought he was Coldhands


    let it go

    Who is he then

    speculation:
    Him not being in the TV shows suggest he's nobody.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I dont know why people still thought he was Coldhands


    let it go

    Who is he then

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Oh no wait sorry you said Coldhands.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    I always assumed coldhands is as old as Bloodraven, just a old dead NW member

    tinfoily its bran from the future once he learns he can weirwood.net any dead thing ever

    i never even thought about it, but (to your second point)
    "i'm your monster, brandon stark" or some such is what he says in response to bran asking his identity, right? or asking him if he's a monster or whatever the line of questioning is

    i like that idea

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    SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I dont know why people still thought he was Coldhands


    let it go

    Who is he then

    syrio

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I dont know why people still thought he was Coldhands


    let it go

    Who is he then

    Jeyne Poole

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    FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I dont know why people still thought he was Coldhands


    let it go

    Who is he then

    Jeyne Poole

    Hotpie

    "The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
    -Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
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    ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    I hope Hotpie eventually becomes the head of a new noble house.

    They could be called the Goldcrusts and their motto could be GRAVY IS EVERYTHING.

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Tickets for the last two episodes of season 4 @ IMAX (US and Canada) will go on sale tomorrow. Screenings will be Jan 29 - Feb 5. See here.

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Note: As far as I'm aware, all of the information listed below is not spoiling anything, and has already been covered in the show.


    I'm reading The World of Ice and Fire, and the first thing which legit shocked me was to do with the Lannisters.

    The first was Casterly Rock. Every single time I pictured it, apparently I *drastically* underestimated how big it was.
    The rock has been measured as thrice the height of the Wall or the Hightower of Oldtown. Almost two leagues long from west to east, it is riddled with tunnels, dungeons, storerooms, barracks, halls, stables, stairways, courtyards, balconies, and gardens. There is even a godswood of sorts, though the weirwood that grows there is a queer twisted thing whose tangled roots have all but filled hte cave where it stands, choking out all other growth.
    The rock even has a port inside it, complete with docks and wharves and shipyards, for the sea has carved great caves into its western face, natural gates deep and wide enough for longships and even cogs to enter and offload their cargoes.
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    The second are the Reynes of Castamere.
    Whenever I thought of Tywin's dealing with the Reynes, I always imagined that they lived in a castle which Tywin set his forces through, butchering everyone around.
    That is not what happened.

    After Tywin defeated the Reynes' forces in the field, he followed the fleeing lords back to Castamere, which isn't a castle.
    Like Casterly rock, Castamere is a mine which while harvesting the gold and precious metals, ended up building their living chambers as well.
    The Reynes retreated to the bottom of the mine which they viewed as more defensible, and sent their envoy to Tywin with terms.
    Tywin commanded his workers to collapse the entrance (and only exit) to the mines, and then had them divert a nearby, swift moving river to flood the complex.
    Which brings a whole nother level to the "Rains of Castamere" song.

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    I Win SwordfightsI Win Swordfights all the traits of greatness starlight at my feetRegistered User regular
    This is the first season since the actual first season that I know no spoilers going into it

    I'm hype

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    I have read all the books

    and even I don't know exactly what theyre cutting and what theyre adding

    very exciting

    EDIT: also im going to the Imax GOT showing on Feb 2nd

    trailer will probably be posted online within minutes of the Jan 29th showing, but oh well

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    my 1 hope is that bby jaime gets a new hairdo

    i know ur trying to be all professional and knightly, ser, but let's get a lil somethin more goin on

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    i too miss his locks

    i really wanted the catelyn and jaime conversation near end of aCoK/season 2 to be similar to how hes described

    no razor in over a year, bearded and knotted hair

    “If there are gods, why is the world so full of pain and injustice?”

    “Because of men like you.”

    “There are no men like me. There’s only me.”

    oh god jaime pls

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    So I just watched all of this over the course of the last week.

    This show is pretty darn great.

    And
    Oberyn's death

    holy crap

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    the show really did that fight justice! They even upped the gruesome-ness
    like talisa getting baby stabbed in 3.09

    also this comic is awesome and is pretty much a 1 to 1 of how its described in books

    https://mccomseycomix.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/the-red-viper-vs-the-mountain-that-rides-a-12-page-comic/

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Speculation spoilers to fire shots at ye that forget:
    Jon is a warg.

    When a warg dies, their spirit enters their beast of choice.

    Stannis is low on "shadow" right now.

    Stannis is prophesied to be super special.

    Jon doesn't know about the warg taboo of stealing human bodies, see: Bran.

    Jon to become Stannis 2015.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    Goddamn, you are a goddamn genius

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    The only issue with the theory is that Jon is not a warg in the tv show. He still could be revealed as one, but it would be a bit out of nowhere.

    If we assume that anything the show has dropped is not an important Chekov's gun in the books then I'd guess that Jon will not warg in Stannis.

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