The [Giant]est [Bomb] Ever seen

Erin The Red

You guys see this stuff about hitman go?

HugmasterGeneral

video games are for perverts

Erin The Red

You telling me that man up there is a pervert?
Huh Ronnie? Huh?

HugmasterGeneral

TheRoadVirus wrote: »

You telling me that man up there is a pervert?
Huh Ronnie? Huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6G9smtj8Do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF3RVXvqFYA

Indie Winter

a dilemma regarding violence against women in upcoming game Sunless Sea by Failbetter Games:

Sunless Sea, like Fallen London, takes a gender-blind approach. As part of that, whenever I write story that involves the player’s crew, I am deliberately alternating male and female pronouns for zailors: ‘Your crewman recovers, and you share a pleasant chat with her’, and so forth.
This is often a bit double-takey because there were basically no female Victorian merchant sailors. But I’m cool with that – the double-take is part of the point. Sunless Sea is history-flavoured fantasy, not history.

I do, however, find myself hesitating at ‘You crack his mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’ vs ‘You crack her mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’. Violence directed at women makes me uncomfortable.

I can’t tell how much this is (i) retro chivalry, given I’m middle-aged and grew up in an era when men were taught to open doors for women (ii) an assumption that my avatar or other characters will be male, because I’m male (iii) a valid concern, because violence directed against women is An Issue in a way that violence directed against men isn’t.

I asked my team, and we’re split (interestingly, along generational lines) between ‘err on the side of caution’ and ‘equality should be consistent’. And of course, I can just write around it – it always happens that the men get their skulls stoven in with gaff-hooks in the prose – but even that absence is itself a choice.

http://sunlessseagame.com/equal-opportunity-injury

Thoughts?

Erin The Red

I think if you sign up to be in a vidyagame, you gotta be ok with getting cracked in your mutinous skull with a gaff-hook. Seems like it comes with the territory.

Mr. G

Erin The Red

What the shit was up with all the load times in that Kinect Sports thing? Holy shit.

Somestickguy

Oh GREAT

I look away for FIVE MINUTES

Fencingsax

TheRoadVirus wrote: »

I think if you sign up to be in a vidyagame, you gotta be ok with getting cracked in your mutinous skull with a gaff-hook. Seems like it comes with the territory.

Those gaff-hooks hate mutineers. Known fact.

Chincymcchilla

Indie Winter wrote: »

a dilemma regarding violence against women in upcoming game Sunless Sea by Failbetter Games:

Sunless Sea, like Fallen London, takes a gender-blind approach. As part of that, whenever I write story that involves the player’s crew, I am deliberately alternating male and female pronouns for zailors: ‘Your crewman recovers, and you share a pleasant chat with her’, and so forth.
This is often a bit double-takey because there were basically no female Victorian merchant sailors. But I’m cool with that – the double-take is part of the point. Sunless Sea is history-flavoured fantasy, not history.

I do, however, find myself hesitating at ‘You crack his mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’ vs ‘You crack her mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’. Violence directed at women makes me uncomfortable.

I can’t tell how much this is (i) retro chivalry, given I’m middle-aged and grew up in an era when men were taught to open doors for women (ii) an assumption that my avatar or other characters will be male, because I’m male (iii) a valid concern, because violence directed against women is An Issue in a way that violence directed against men isn’t.

I asked my team, and we’re split (interestingly, along generational lines) between ‘err on the side of caution’ and ‘equality should be consistent’. And of course, I can just write around it – it always happens that the men get their skulls stoven in with gaff-hooks in the prose – but even that absence is itself a choice.

Thoughts?

I think if you are involved in combat you can be hurt and if you want women in your game with combat then it's silly to exclude them

Somestickguy

OK looking at the timestamps maybe it was more than five minutes

But STILL

Langly

I think it's pretty silly to make a point of having women and then make a point of only killing the men.

Erin The Red

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

Indie Winter wrote: »

a dilemma regarding violence against women in upcoming game Sunless Sea by Failbetter Games:

Sunless Sea, like Fallen London, takes a gender-blind approach. As part of that, whenever I write story that involves the player’s crew, I am deliberately alternating male and female pronouns for zailors: ‘Your crewman recovers, and you share a pleasant chat with her’, and so forth.
This is often a bit double-takey because there were basically no female Victorian merchant sailors. But I’m cool with that – the double-take is part of the point. Sunless Sea is history-flavoured fantasy, not history.

I do, however, find myself hesitating at ‘You crack his mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’ vs ‘You crack her mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’. Violence directed at women makes me uncomfortable.

I can’t tell how much this is (i) retro chivalry, given I’m middle-aged and grew up in an era when men were taught to open doors for women (ii) an assumption that my avatar or other characters will be male, because I’m male (iii) a valid concern, because violence directed against women is An Issue in a way that violence directed against men isn’t.

I asked my team, and we’re split (interestingly, along generational lines) between ‘err on the side of caution’ and ‘equality should be consistent’. And of course, I can just write around it – it always happens that the men get their skulls stoven in with gaff-hooks in the prose – but even that absence is itself a choice.

Thoughts?

I think if you are involved in combat you can be hurt and if you want women in your game with combat then it's silly to exclude them

It's sort of like when women sign up to be police officers, soldiers, etc. they do so with the understanding that they are putting themselves into the same danger that the duders face. So joining up with a mutinous crew will get you just as cracked in the mutinous skull as a mutinous dude would.

Erin The Red

Somestickguy wrote: »

OK looking at the timestamps maybe it was more than five minutes

But STILL

There is a line
(Woah woah woah woah)

Must have a GB thread at allll times.
(Woah woah woah woah)

AtomicTofu

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/04/24/preview-mays-instant-game-collection/

Cool, I'll get to finally check out Puppeteer.

BlankZoe

The fuck is Stick it to the Man

Chincymcchilla

Blankzilla wrote: »

The fuck is Stick it to the Man

Cool/funny puzzle game

there's a quicklook of it

AtomicTofu

Blankzilla wrote: »

The fuck is Stick it to the Man

All I know is that Ryan North did the writing for it!

Mr. G

Resogun continues to be the only PS+ PS4 game I would've been okay paying for

Stick It To The Man did not look good to me at all

Beef Avenger

I want gifs of the weird movements Vinny was making his tennis man do near the end of that Kinect ql

WeedLordVegeta

giffingtool dot com

Virgil_Leads_You

Mercenary Kings is pretty good.
I would say I like it better than Resogun, and the games I bought - Killzone, AC4, JustDance.

SimBen

HAIL RYAN DAVIS

Virgil_Leads_You

There's a weird thing going on where I look at new releases and then try to gauge when they'll go PS+.

Diarmuid

Yeah, Puppeteer was a very obvious candidate for PS+ even when it came out.

I'm expecting that God of War game to be on Plus in the next few months.

Diarmuid

Oh, XCOM: Enemy Unknown is on Android now.

THESPOOKY

Hitman GO looks pretty sweet

Ms Dapper

Patrick was on a morning show!

Diarmuid

Gonna be honest

I miss the Bro button

Mr. G

I am not convinced Jeff didn't make Putty Squad himself

Erin The Red

I want Gang Beasts as a PS+ game one month.
It looks perfectly set up for a night of drinking and yelling at the TV with friends.

Chincymcchilla

Mr. G wrote: »

I am not convinced Jeff didn't make Putty Squad himself

It literally looks like a game that came in one of those "500 games!" discs in the early 90s

And it's 25 dollars

TheySlashThem

hailing hydra is so great, though

Diarmuid

Mr. G wrote: »

I am not convinced Jeff didn't make Putty Squad himself

Every Amiga game ever made looks like that.

Maximum

Surprised we haven't gotten Knack on PS+ yet.

Daypigeon

Indie Winter wrote: »

a dilemma regarding violence against women in upcoming game Sunless Sea by Failbetter Games:

Sunless Sea, like Fallen London, takes a gender-blind approach. As part of that, whenever I write story that involves the player’s crew, I am deliberately alternating male and female pronouns for zailors: ‘Your crewman recovers, and you share a pleasant chat with her’, and so forth.
This is often a bit double-takey because there were basically no female Victorian merchant sailors. But I’m cool with that – the double-take is part of the point. Sunless Sea is history-flavoured fantasy, not history.

I do, however, find myself hesitating at ‘You crack his mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’ vs ‘You crack her mutinous skull with a blow from the gaff-hook’. Violence directed at women makes me uncomfortable.

I can’t tell how much this is (i) retro chivalry, given I’m middle-aged and grew up in an era when men were taught to open doors for women (ii) an assumption that my avatar or other characters will be male, because I’m male (iii) a valid concern, because violence directed against women is An Issue in a way that violence directed against men isn’t.

I asked my team, and we’re split (interestingly, along generational lines) between ‘err on the side of caution’ and ‘equality should be consistent’. And of course, I can just write around it – it always happens that the men get their skulls stoven in with gaff-hooks in the prose – but even that absence is itself a choice.

Thoughts?

cracking anyone's skull with a gaff hook seems pretty unpleasant and unsettling really! Like that just makes me uncomfortable either way.

That being said, if these scenes are actually all written in a gender-blind approach it's probably(?) fine. Violence towards women in works of fiction, when troubling, usually is not just violence in a vacuum- there's typically some other creepy elements to it that wouldn't happen to a male character in the same situation, or it's presented in a completely different way.

WeedLordVegeta

ThatDudeOverThere wrote: »

hailing hydra is so great, though

HAIL HYDRA

Jars

everyone misses the bro button. even hydra followers put up the brofist

AtomicTofu

Jars wrote: »

everyone misses the bro button. even hydra followers put up the brofist

TWO brofists

SimBen

Hailing Hydra is the ravenest, too.