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Apartment Employee Threatened me while arguing over charges on my account

wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
edited April 2014 in Help / Advice Forum
So yesterday I went in to talk to my apartment manager about late fees to my account as well as a few other problems with my internet they refused to fix. After awhile I was getting nowhere and a bit flustered and said something along the lines of "Look, if you are going to be assholes about this just give me the number of the person above you".

Now, the person I said this to was a women (which, who cares about that right? Sexism much?) and two of the maintenance guys were in the room and apparently they don't like it when someone disrespects a female. The guys get up, walk across the room to me until they were literally right in my face surrounding me and started saying shit like "Shes a women, show her some respect". After telling the guy to back off he started to get visibly angry. This is no little guy. He is 6'3"~ish and solid muscle. Think "The Situation". So after that he started to breath really heavy, turn red faced, puffing up his chest, and clinching his fists all while being inches away from my face. After a bit of huffing he starts telling me to "step out side" so he could "teach me some respect" and a few other intimidating things.

After dealing with that I told the lady I would be calling her manager and told the guys to stop threatening me and left.

Now, here's the question. I have been thinking about filing a police report as I am pretty sure threatening your tenants with violence because they don't agree with you is probably illegal. Not only that but these guys are maintenance, so they have keys to my entire building and my apartment. They also live in the same building. I have been a bit stressed cus for all I know these guys can just come in at any time and either assault me or steal my shit.

My own tone was stern but I was not hostile or threatened anyone (I'm really tired of paying for shit that doesn't work and wanted to get it fixed)

Is there anyway I can get the fuck out of these apartments without have to pay a ton of fees? I literally fear for my safety and my girlfriends as these guys were threatening and intimidating me in the office.

I live in utah and have been going over these links but I don't really know if they would even apply to me. In a bit im going to call the cops when I get access to a phone to file the report and as well as the company that owns the property.
http://le.utah.gov/code/TITLE76/htm/76_05_010700.htm
http://le.utah.gov/code/TITLE57/htm/57_22_000501.htm

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    You put yourself in an incredibly bad place when you used profanity to insult that person. It doesn't justify the actions of those maintenance dudes but it means you're not going to get much in the way of sympathy from the cops or judges. Not when their response was only verbal.

    Your best bet is to talk to the manager and try and work something out. I think you have a much better chance of doing that if you start off with an apology but I wouldn't hope for much there.

    About the only advice I can think that would be helpful is get nanny cam on your apartment door and try and be more civil in the future. If you can be sincere an actual apology to the woman in question can do wonders for smoothing things over.

    I am also assuming that is a misspelling in the second paragraph in those parenthesis. If not...

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  • PacificstarPacificstar Registered User regular
    I think it's unlikely that you're going to get a meaningful response from the police. That said if things you were promised are not available, or your place is screwed up and they're not fixing, there is probably a legal way to get out of your lease without penalty. Definitely find a lawyer

  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    yeah misspelling hahahahahahahah >.> I combined "who" and "care" while editing.

    I have been trying to be nice with these people for 6 months to get the problems fixed and they ignore it. What else do you want me to do, just start sucking their dicks hoping things get better? This is the one time I go in there thinking "Fuck em, I'm putting my foot down they need to fix this shit."

    I'm sorry if cursing gives people the right to assault me. And I'm sorry that they are fucking pricks trying to screw me over in the first place. When has this become the acceptable way to treat people? Literally, what the fuck have you guys done? Just saying "oh, be nice!~" is the dumbest fucking advice I have heard in my life. Really? Like I haven't tried asking please?

    The apartments aren't going to just "Give me money" cus they did something wrong. When has that ever EVER once happened to anyone in the entire world?

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  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    I even bet now someone is thinking "Ah see you're a dick, no wonder they didn't do it!"

    Again, assuming I haven't tried polite letters multiple times. Or a dozen phone calls. If someone is punched in the face are they suppose to say "Oh pardon me good sir! It seems my face was in the way of your first! I'll be more careful next time!"

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    wakkawa wrote: »
    yeah misspelling hahahahahahahah >.>

    I have been trying to be nice with these people for 6 months to get the problems fixed and they ignore it. What else do you want me to do, jsut start sucking their dicks hoping things get better?

    Move.

    Also if this is really the way you behave towards people (especially when you want something from them) I'm not surprised that no one is very helpful towards you nor am I surprised someone threatened you with violence. I get the feeling there might be more to you being ignored on these issues for six months than you're letting on.

    edit: oh yeah you can catch a lot more bees with honey than vinegar but we're way past that I believe

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Start looking for a new place.

    Or go down and apologize and mean it.

  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    Shogun wrote: »
    wakkawa wrote: »
    yeah misspelling hahahahahahahah >.>

    I have been trying to be nice with these people for 6 months to get the problems fixed and they ignore it. What else do you want me to do, jsut start sucking their dicks hoping things get better?

    Move.

    Also if this is really the way you behave towards people (especially when you want something from them) I'm not surprised that no one is very helpful towards you nor am I surprised someone threatened you with violence. I get the feeling there might be more to you being ignored on these issues for six months than you're letting on.

    see this is exactly what I expected.

    I love it how people can be dicks to someone and the victim is the one that has to apologize.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Unfortunately in those situations the first person to lose their cool usually ends up with the short end of the stick. It isn't fair or right or anything really, it's just the way things shake out.

    Also please, I very specifically said the threatening behavior was not justified. Assault is a crime that is rarely charged absent physical violence and you have no objective proof. If they are as bad as you claim they have three people who will say you were "fill in horrible thing here" to your one. Getting the police involved, even if they all describe what happened close to what you say, will not do you any good at all.

    Have you documented your previous attempts to resolve this? Then you might get somewhere legally but if I were you I would not bring up even a suggestion of the assault charge. I know if feels outrageous to you and those feelings are justified but they will not translate well into another party.

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  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    I loveeeee it. Everyone's advice is to roll over and give up.

    I'm sick of this twisted ass shit. I live my entire life staying out of people's way and when I ask for a refund on a service I paid for multiple times that doesn't work I'm in the wrong. and when I stand my ground and disrespect some girls "honor" when I ask for it I get nothing.

    Nope instead I literally have to live in fear of some asshole that can literally walk into my apartment at any time he pleases since he has a fucking key to it.

    "Just move!"

    And pay $$$ thousands in fees.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    wakkawa wrote: »
    I loveeeee it. Everyone's advice is to roll over and give up.

    I'm sick of this twisted ass shit. I live my entire life staying out of people's way and when I ask for a refund on a service I paid for multiple times that doesn't work I'm in the wrong.

    Do you see how you got emotional here and now everybody is treating you like you don't have a valid point?

    This is what not to do.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    wakkawa wrote: »
    I loveeeee it. Everyone's advice is to roll over and give up.

    I'm sick of this twisted ass shit. I live my entire life staying out of people's way and when I ask for a refund on a service I paid for multiple times that doesn't work I'm in the wrong.

    Do you see how you got emotional here and now everybody is treating you like you don't have a valid point?

    This is what not to do.

    Cus your advice is shit? To, just give up? That's just the way of things?

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    wakkawa wrote: »
    wakkawa wrote: »
    I loveeeee it. Everyone's advice is to roll over and give up.

    I'm sick of this twisted ass shit. I live my entire life staying out of people's way and when I ask for a refund on a service I paid for multiple times that doesn't work I'm in the wrong.

    Do you see how you got emotional here and now everybody is treating you like you don't have a valid point?

    This is what not to do.

    Cus your advice is shit? To, just give up? That's just the way of things?

    I suggested at least two courses of action that might help. Neither was to give up your valid complaint.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    wakkawa wrote: »
    I'm sick of this twisted ass shit. I live my entire life staying out of people's way and when I ask for a refund on a service I paid for multiple times that doesn't work I'm in the wrong.
    I don't think anyone has said you're in the wrong for asking for these services. I think people are just giving you advice about what might work and you're refusing to listen to it because you're convinced that you're perfect and the other people are assholes. People are telling you what's likely to work (feeling remorse, apologizing, not swearing at people and then defending yourself instead of realizing that being a jerk to people isn't okay even if they're being a jerk to you, moving, etc) and what isn't likely to work (calling the police because you felt threatened, especially when the police only have your word to go on that you weren't acting in a threatening manner yourself).

    I think an important thing to keep in mind is that sometimes, in a dispute, both parties have done something wrong. In fact, this is what tends to make disputes hard to resolve - both parties have reasons not to give in, because they perceive themselves as the one who is "right." In reality, you're both wrong, for different reasons. When neutral parties (like us) come in and tell you that there are things you can do to make it so that you aren't also in the wrong (apologize, be less hostile) you might want to listen to this advice rather than doubling down on the wrong you've already done.

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  • wakkawawakkawa Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    wakkawa wrote: »
    I'm sick of this twisted ass shit. I live my entire life staying out of people's way and when I ask for a refund on a service I paid for multiple times that doesn't work I'm in the wrong.
    I don't think anyone has said you're in the wrong for asking for these services. I think people are just giving you advice about what might work and you're refusing to listen to it because you're convinced that you're perfect and the other people are assholes. People are telling you what's likely to work (feeling remorse, apologizing, not swearing at people and then defending yourself instead of realizing that being a jerk to people isn't okay even if they're being a jerk to you, moving, etc) and what isn't likely to work (calling the police because you felt threatened, especially when the police only have your word to go on that you weren't acting in a threatening manner yourself).

    I think an important thing to keep in mind is that sometimes, in a dispute, both parties have done something wrong. In fact, this is what tends to make disputes hard to resolve - both parties have reasons not to give in, because they perceive themselves as the one who is "right." In reality, you're both wrong, for different reasons. When neutral parties (like us) come in and tell you that there are things you can do to make it so that you aren't also in the wrong (apologize, be less hostile) you might want to listen to this advice rather than doubling down on the wrong you've already done.

    again, you aren't listening.

    Up there i have said I have tried to ask politely and has gotten me nowhere. I have tried this for 6 months.

    Like, the fuck is wrong with you people? Literally was assaulted after I got upset because I was tired of getting fuck over?

    And rather than read you just pick certain parts and be judgemental?

    Wonder why I fucking hate everyone.

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    geth, close the thread

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    Affirmative Tube. Closing thread...

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