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[Megaten/Persona Discussion] SMTxFE returns(without much SMT).

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    I mean umm...we don't even know what P5 is about yet.

    That said since we're returning to high school again, I'm seriously doubting its going to be based on the P4 cast.

    Maz-
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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I feel sort of spoiled, not even knowing of the existence of this series until a year ago almost to the day. Now we've got all kinds of side games coming along with a brand new main numbered installment around 2 years after I started.

    It's like discovering George RR Martin just as he's wrapping up the last book or something.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    Has anything related to SMT x FE come out this e3?

    Sadly not.

    DOA.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    Has anything related to SMT x FE come out this e3?

    Sadly not.

    DOA.

    Boo.

    Alright, I'll go back to my cave of handheld hate. Someone call me if something I can play on my TV is going to come out any time soon.

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    Has anything related to SMT x FE come out this e3?

    Sadly not.

    DOA.

    Boo.

    Alright, I'll go back to my cave of handheld hate. Someone call me if something I can play on my TV is going to come out any time soon.

    I want to believe, but it is a very bad sign that Nintendo didn't even mention it when they're actively trying to push the Wii U now.

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    The game is not dead, it was on a "games coming soon to Wii U" list Nintendo published at their recent shareholder meeting. It's probably just too early to show off anything yet.

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  • WeisskaiserWeisskaiser TokyoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Bursar wrote: »
    I understand why people want a new cast and all. I think the reason people are rabidly buying all these side games though is that these characters are so well-written that they resonated well with the fanbase and we actually care what happens to them.

    Definitely make new things and do other things with Persona, but let's not begrudge people their desire to keep seeing more of these people.

    I just have to laugh at this... not because they aren't well written, but because the games based on the originals don't bother to do anything with them. There's no further characterization, and any new material just becomes an endless series of "Remember this? Here it is again! References!"

    This is why Chie's become the steak-monster she is today, Akihiko's an adrenaline-crazed protein addict, Yosuke will invariably wear a trashcan (despite it only being in a single scene for about a minute in the first hour of P4), Kanji will stammer and blush at any sign of male or female sexuality, and so on. The fans have latched on to their favorite details of the characters, and the writers have just run with them until they've become all-encompassing character traits instead of details. It's time to let them go.

    Persona Q actually does have further characterization, mostly through the characters from the two games interacting with each other.
    Margaret shows a softer side when with Elizabeth, Kanji talking to Amada about being true to yourself, etc.

    That being said, the majority of it is just having the established characters doing wacky shit together, but I feel that having them doing it together makes it fresh enough.

    P4U's writing was mostly rubbish though.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    A fighting game with bad writing? Why I never!

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    You know, to just keep on fusing is generally effective in these games, but P4G's shuffle-system can make a consistent persona really freaking buff in a fairly short time. It may actually be more effective while you don't have access to strong enough enemies to raise your fusion-level.

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    Goddammit Atlus. I don't like fighting games. I'm fucking awful at fighting games. I don't want to buy fighting games. Then you go an put an inflatable Teddie punching bag in your P4AU special edition...DAMN YOU.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    You know, to just keep on fusing is generally effective in these games, but P4G's shuffle-system can make a consistent persona really freaking buff in a fairly short time. It may actually be more effective while you don't have access to strong enough enemies to raise your fusion-level.

    My third run-through I stuck with Izanagi the entire game and he wrecked an unbelievable amount of face by the end.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Yeah, P4G's shuffle system makes single-persona runs very possible.

  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    PLA wrote: »
    You know, to just keep on fusing is generally effective in these games, but P4G's shuffle-system can make a consistent persona really freaking buff in a fairly short time. It may actually be more effective while you don't have access to strong enough enemies to raise your fusion-level.

    My third run-through I stuck with Izanagi the entire game and he wrecked an unbelievable amount of face by the end.

    Wait what? Can you explain this to me? Did you just continue to level up Izanagi and give him additional skills through cards?

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    that's exactly what you do. skill cards and level-up/skill-up shuffle bonuses can get you through the whole game.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    At a certain point stats get maxed through card usage (luck/str/etc has been increased!) so you need to pay attention and not increase something already at max.

    Other than that, get skill cards when possible.

    It's kind of a fun runthrough because you prioritize different things at shuffle time, and Izanagi becomes a god (get it?) by the fourth dungeon or so.

    You also choose different abilities for your team to cover your own weaknesses and holes in the powers you'd normally make up for by switching personas.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    So, I was bored and decided to see if I could find the best Persona 3/4 cosplayers out there*.

    PERSONA 3

    Male protagonist

    Female protagonist

    Junpei

    Akihiko (note: there is a dearth of good Akihikos, but this one's pretty good even if it's a group photo)

    Aigis

    Mitsuru

    Yukari

    Fuuka

    Shinjiro (I had a lot of trouble finding one worth a damn)

    Ken

    Koromaru (I guess...?)

    Elizabeth

    PERSONA 4

    Yu

    Kanji

    Teddie (note: this one won for me because it included an incredible Nanako)

    Yosuke

    Yukiko (note: this one was holy shit hard to decide)

    Chie

    Naoto

    Rise

    Margaret

    *may not actually be the best out there

    Nobody can pull off Igor, apparently.

    Also here is a Jack Frost cosplay, because why the hell not?

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Your Koromaru is actually Okami Amaterasu.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Can you find an actual Koromaru? I can't.

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Sorry bro, I refuse to go down the cosplay rabbithole.

    So, uh...here. Koromaru cosplay.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Also be careful of where you look for this stuff. I saw... things.

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    Also, this is clearly the best Kanji cosplay.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Also, this is clearly the best Kanji cosplay.

    I concede that. My only defense is that I would've picked it if I'd seen it.

  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    I remember seeing a good Demifiend cosplay at one point. I wonder why that character doesn't get done more often. Just get some black bike shorts and a magic marker...

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  • YggiDeeYggiDee The World Ends With You Shill Registered User regular
    Disclaimer: I don't cosplay myself, so this is speculation
    1) For some people a lot of the challenge is in getting the costumes just right, so going as a cosplay that's just bicycle shorts takes some of the fun out of it.
    2) You probably don't get to have as much fun messing around 'in character' or whatever with the Demifiend vs the Persona gang. Dude gets almost no lines.
    3) With almost no costume to speak of, you have nothing to rely on but your own abs to convey how hardcore the Demifiend is. Also it is probably chilly.

  • Gaming-FreakGaming-Freak Registered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I mean umm...we don't even know what P5 is about yet.

    That said since we're returning to high school again, I'm seriously doubting its going to be based on the P4 cast.

    High school never ends wha-oh-oh-oh-a-oh, oh-oh-a-oh, oh-oh-a-oh.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Isn't Demi-Fiend pretty common?

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  • YggiDeeYggiDee The World Ends With You Shill Registered User regular
    Well then, it turns out I'm wrong. That's a fine-ass Demifiend.

  • MagmyGeraithMagmyGeraith Registered User regular
    SMTxFE was brought up during the 3DS roundtable at the end of E3; it was mentioned that other things haven't impacted its development.

    Source (courtesy of reddit, scroll down to 7:09):
    http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/37686/3ds-game-developer-discussion

    Whew.

    Maz-
  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Why does the thread title say "Adachi DLC" ?

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Why does the thread title say "Adachi DLC" ?
    In the new Persona 4 Arena game, Adachi has character DLC, as well as his own unique story mode, titled Chapter Adachi.

  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    Because Adachi's going to be a DLC character in P4AU. Just Famitsu scans for now, no footage until probably next week.

  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    ooohhh.

    Its for Arena okay, for a second there I thought there was some kind of P4 Golden DLC that I had missed the boat on. Guess I'll trade in my copy of old Arena for New Arena then if they're just going to keep adding stuff.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    ooohhh.

    Its for Arena okay, for a second there I thought there was some kind of P4 Golden DLC that I had missed the boat on. Guess I'll trade in my copy of old Arena for New Arena then if they're just going to keep adding stuff.

    Also, the story mode from the original arena is going to be DLC for the new one. You know, if you ever get the urge to repeat the same story over and over again with a different character being the hero every time.

  • BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    ooohhh.

    Its for Arena okay, for a second there I thought there was some kind of P4 Golden DLC that I had missed the boat on. Guess I'll trade in my copy of old Arena for New Arena then if they're just going to keep adding stuff.

    Also, the story mode from the original arena is going to be DLC for the new one. You know, if you ever get the urge to repeat the same story over and over again with a different character being the hero every time.

    I did find it interesting that for most of it they were running separate, concurrent narratives that would eventually converge into the same thing though (like Yu's phone call with Yosuke and his banter with Chie)

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    ooohhh.

    Its for Arena okay, for a second there I thought there was some kind of P4 Golden DLC that I had missed the boat on. Guess I'll trade in my copy of old Arena for New Arena then if they're just going to keep adding stuff.

    Also, the story mode from the original arena is going to be DLC for the new one. You know, if you ever get the urge to repeat the same story over and over again with a different character being the hero every time.

    I did find it interesting that for most of it they were running separate, concurrent narratives that would eventually converge into the same thing though (like Yu's phone call with Yosuke and his banter with Chie)

    Yeah, it's like a bunch of side stuff happens to the same characters no matter what (Akihiko and Chie meeting in the hallway before he jumps out the window) but the overall main story arc changes to accommodate the character you selected.

    I wish they'd just run completely separate, interweaving stories that make sense when it's all put together.

    DoctorArch
  • WeisskaiserWeisskaiser TokyoRegistered User regular
    If they can't think of anything to write for a character they ought to just... don't.

    Blazblue finally got a decent story mode in Chronophantasma though so maybe they'll follow in that vein.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I accidentally 53 Endurance and 51 Luck in May. Nothing below 34.

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