The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
the elite is dying too? I almost considered getting the elite just because they would have had it figured out by now hardware wise. M$ should get Dell or someone to make their shit and they can do what they do best: software and greed.
Threepio (who works at a retailer HQ, and would be in a position to know) says they're getting complaints of dead Elites, and an Engadget article that cracked open an Elite and compareed its innards to a regular 360 says nothing much has changed (I'd link to it, but Engadget's search function sucks).
Yeah, I figured the Elite would be fixed too, but then again, I'd rather not pay $80 more for the privilege of having the hardware actually function properly.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
the elite is dying too? I almost considered getting the elite just because they would have had it figured out by now hardware wise. M$ should get Dell or someone to make their shit and they can do what they do best: software and greed.
Honestly... are the games just not that good enough?
I mean... I can understand some concern over the possibility of having a hassle and sending it in to be fixed. But in most cases people are just enjoying the games/experience.
See if I had the money to buy a console I'd look at the library... feature like online etc then I'd buy one. Maybe I get a bad one and have to send it in for a free repair... but no matter who I went with there's a chance it's going to break... maybe with MS there's a 2% more chance it's going to break.
I know if yours breaks it feels like 100% or even 200% chance of failure but all too often I see statements like "This is the only thing holding me back" from gaming bloggers to message board users and I'm like... "WTF?".
dern thats pretty disheartening. this has got to be costing M$ tens of thousands of dollars fixing and taking all these complaints you'd think that would be incentive enough.
Next map packs will be $15 instead of $10 methinks. Or $20 for new Worms backgrounds? Limitless possibilities.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
You know, you'd think that if the people are right about the problem being the solder - which would make sense, considering the towel fix - it wouldn't even take that much to change the production lines so they can use regular solder.
Then again, they're probably getting paid by some hippie green company to use their shitty solder instead of the regular stuff.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
the elite is dying too? I almost considered getting the elite just because they would have had it figured out by now hardware wise. M$ should get Dell or someone to make their shit and they can do what they do best: software and greed.
Honestly... are the games just not that good enough?
I mean... I can understand some concern over the possibility of having a hassle and sending it in to be fixed. But in most cases people are just enjoying the games/experience.
See if I had the money to buy a console I'd look at the library... feature like online etc then I'd buy one. Maybe I get a bad one and have to send it in for a free repair... but no matter who I went with there's a chance it's going to break... maybe with MS there's a 2% more chance it's going to break.
I know if yours breaks it feels like 100% or even 200% chance of failure but all too often I see statements like "This is the only thing holding me back" from gaming bloggers to message board users and I'm like... "WTF?".
I've owned maybe 10 consoles since the first atari came out and not one ever went down. Blowing into the NES was about as tragic as it got. Since January I've sent one 360 back for failure and got 3 red lights and a shut down on my second.
then i look through this thread. i think i am safe in my worried assumptions.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
the elite is dying too? I almost considered getting the elite just because they would have had it figured out by now hardware wise. M$ should get Dell or someone to make their shit and they can do what they do best: software and greed.
Honestly... are the games just not that good enough?
I mean... I can understand some concern over the possibility of having a hassle and sending it in to be fixed. But in most cases people are just enjoying the games/experience.
See if I had the money to buy a console I'd look at the library... feature like online etc then I'd buy one. Maybe I get a bad one and have to send it in for a free repair... but no matter who I went with there's a chance it's going to break... maybe with MS there's a 2% more chance it's going to break.
I know if yours breaks it feels like 100% or even 200% chance of failure but all too often I see statements like "This is the only thing holding me back" from gaming bloggers to message board users and I'm like... "WTF?".
You're kind of underestimating it. Yes, every console has a failure rate. However, I doubt any console has had as consistent of a problem that causes failures as the 360 without any sort of hardware changes to address the issues.
Then, really, just compare it against the PS3 and the Wii. Have we heard anything about shockingly wide-spread failure rates of either of those consoles? There was the issue with a batch of PS3s fairly recently, but that was isolated. The 360's failure doesn't seem to be isolated at all; while possibly not random, the problem seems to pervade every manufacture of the console.
Given that, it's not hard to understand why some are waiting for a hardware revision before picking one up.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
the elite is dying too? I almost considered getting the elite just because they would have had it figured out by now hardware wise. M$ should get Dell or someone to make their shit and they can do what they do best: software and greed.
Honestly... are the games just not that good enough?
I mean... I can understand some concern over the possibility of having a hassle and sending it in to be fixed. But in most cases people are just enjoying the games/experience.
See if I had the money to buy a console I'd look at the library... feature like online etc then I'd buy one. Maybe I get a bad one and have to send it in for a free repair... but no matter who I went with there's a chance it's going to break... maybe with MS there's a 2% more chance it's going to break.
I know if yours breaks it feels like 100% or even 200% chance of failure but all too often I see statements like "This is the only thing holding me back" from gaming bloggers to message board users and I'm like... "WTF?".
Two percent more? Wow, that's spinning it. I know that internet posters can post any old thing, but the sheer volume of "dead 360" posts seems to indicate there's something big going on. Plus, out of three people I know who own 360s, two of them have had the systems die. Not to mention all the people who have sent in their 360 to get it repaired, only to have it die again. So it really is a big consideration in this case.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
the elite is dying too? I almost considered getting the elite just because they would have had it figured out by now hardware wise. M$ should get Dell or someone to make their shit and they can do what they do best: software and greed.
Honestly... are the games just not that good enough?
I mean... I can understand some concern over the possibility of having a hassle and sending it in to be fixed. But in most cases people are just enjoying the games/experience.
See if I had the money to buy a console I'd look at the library... feature like online etc then I'd buy one. Maybe I get a bad one and have to send it in for a free repair... but no matter who I went with there's a chance it's going to break... maybe with MS there's a 2% more chance it's going to break.
I know if yours breaks it feels like 100% or even 200% chance of failure but all too often I see statements like "This is the only thing holding me back" from gaming bloggers to message board users and I'm like... "WTF?".
I've owned maybe 10 consoles since the first atari came out and not one ever went down. Blowing into the NES was about as tragic as it got. Since January I've sent one 360 back for failure and got 3 red lights and a shut down on my second.
then i look through this thread. i think i am safe in my worried assumptions.
If you had a PS1 or PS2 and it never broke then you're about as lucky as me with a 2005 360 working perfectly every single day of it's life.
I wish there were internets on this scale to bitch and moan about back then but there weren't.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
the elite is dying too? I almost considered getting the elite just because they would have had it figured out by now hardware wise. M$ should get Dell or someone to make their shit and they can do what they do best: software and greed.
Honestly... are the games just not that good enough?
I mean... I can understand some concern over the possibility of having a hassle and sending it in to be fixed. But in most cases people are just enjoying the games/experience.
See if I had the money to buy a console I'd look at the library... feature like online etc then I'd buy one. Maybe I get a bad one and have to send it in for a free repair... but no matter who I went with there's a chance it's going to break... maybe with MS there's a 2% more chance it's going to break.
I know if yours breaks it feels like 100% or even 200% chance of failure but all too often I see statements like "This is the only thing holding me back" from gaming bloggers to message board users and I'm like... "WTF?".
Two percent more? Wow, that's spinning it. I know that internet posters can post any old thing, but the sheer volume of "dead 360" posts seems to indicate there's something big going on. Plus, out of three people I know who own 360s, two of them have had the systems die. Not to mention all the people who have sent in their 360 to get it repaired, only to have it die again. So it really is a big consideration in this case.
I know what you're saying. Maybe I'm just having such a good time with the games that I really don't see another option. My confusion is that some folks that are on gaming specific message boards and websites seem to like the games but if a console had to be fixed some kind of tragedy would ensue that would somehow demean the entire experience.
I don't care if anyone buys a 360... just trying to understand other perspectives.
If you had a PS1 or PS2 and it never broke then you're about as lucky as me with a 2005 360 working perfectly every single day of it's life.
I wish there were internets on this scale to bitch and moan about back then but there weren't.
if you want to call it bitching and moaning after putting about 800 dollars into this thing i could really give a shit less what you think. Seattle is that-a-way ~~~> go suck Microsoft's cock and balls there.
personally I'll stay on their ass by bitching and moaning until they fix the issue since it's my money they are taking.
I know this is anecdotal experience, but just about 75% of the people I know have had their x360s die on them.
So out of the 10 friends I know, about 7 of them have already sent their systems back, one is acting funky, but nothing preventing him from playing his games after a few tries.
I get a phone call the other day from my brother in law who purchased his back in december. Asks me if I want a 360...I said sure, but I'd have to think on it. After much research, I came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth it. When I ask him why he wants to get rid of his console, he says he's returned it two times already...he's on his third console.
Instead I picked up his extra gamecube.
Anyway - I'm content with playing whatever my brother has on his x360 (which hasn't failed at all, perfectly fine). Luckily he gets just about every game that's released
If you had a PS1 or PS2 and it never broke then you're about as lucky as me with a 2005 360 working perfectly every single day of it's life.
I wish there were internets on this scale to bitch and moan about back then but there weren't.
if you want to call it bitching and moaning after putting about 800 dollars into this thing i could really give a shit less what you think. Seattle is that-a-way ~~~> go suck Microsoft's cock and balls there.
personally I'll stay on their ass by bitching and moaning until they fix the issue since it's my money they are taking.
To be fair, if you did the whole song and dance once and had to repay, then you kind of knew what you were getting into with your investment. So its probably not the smartest thing to jump right back with your moneys. But hey, maybe the third times the charm right?
I had my launch PS2 die. I've had a couple PS1 almost die (adjusting the laser fix). None died within the short timeframe my 360 died or the handful of people I know that have had a 360 die on them. I really don't understand how it can be this flimsy, especially if its just an alleged solder problem.
If you had a PS1 or PS2 and it never broke then you're about as lucky as me with a 2005 360 working perfectly every single day of it's life.
I wish there were internets on this scale to bitch and moan about back then but there weren't.
There was, and people did. The only problem is, nobody listened. Shinji Mikami (Resident Evil) even complained about the high failure rate of the PS2 on a Japanese radio program, only to be shushed by the host of the show. There was even a petition addressing the disc read errors common on Playstation 2 consoles, which you'll find right here:
Unfortunately, if the mainstream news media doesn't cover it, it never happened. I firmly believe that's why Sony was able to get away with such shoddy manufacturing for both the Playstation and Playstation 2.
Actually I was talking about the bitching and moaning I was doing when my Playstations broke but you're a real classy guy with the insults.
Yah, my PS One went down once, and the replacement process was relatively smooth. This, as you might recal, is the third console of mine to fail. Had the repair process worked seemlessly (as it does for some), I would have been without it for about 7-10 days, tops. A big deal? Not so much.
Now, multiply that by 3 failures, and one full month since my last one died before it has been replaced, and all of a sudden the ratio of "Able to play: Expensive doorstop" gets a little disheartening. Don't get me wrong, when my first one broke, I did feel like it was a 100% failure rate, which I obviously knew wasn't the case in reality. When my third broke... well, you can imagine my frustration, especially given the time involved.
If you look at it like a luxury car (which it is not - because it may be a necessity, but let's assume you just like to tool around in a Porsche), and other Porsche owners told you that in the 18 months that they've owned, it's been in the shop for 3 months. That's one month in six. Would you want to jump right into ownership of one? Oh yeah - there's also no real customer service, they won't tell you where your car is, and you'll probably get someone else's busted car (repaired, of course) back. I'd think twice.
And I just want to state, for the record, that I am not some idiot who has put it in an unventillated space. I have actually placed it on a custom shelving unit that provides it venitllation on all four sides (even underneath!), and has 2 80mm fans moving air around it (I'll post some pics at some point). I've babied the damn thing, and it still has died three times.
Now, how do I like it? When it works, I freaking LOVE it. The whole experience, however, is tainted by the failures of customer service and the unit itself. I would have bought an elite, but not any more. Premium's good enough for me until it fails again.
So can we agree that the PS1 was shoddy, the PS2 shoddier and the 360 shoddiest? I don't care if previous systems were crappy, it does not give an excuse to why CURRENT systems are experiencing so many breakdowns. Meanwhile my original brick gameboy has been dropped, soaked in the rain and abused for a decade or so works perfectly fine.
It pays to be (of) Irish (heritage): My PS2 AND my 360 are both still hummin' along.
It's $15 to touch me on St. Patrick's Day.
($50 every other day of the year. $75 for a happy ending.)
My GF is of Irish blood I touch her plenty, the luck is not transferable the touching is good though :winky:
I got Irish blood and my GF touches me...
What were we talking about again?
Maybe she wants my luck; Euro launch 2005 360 still fine never a problem.
Sure it will die one day but meh... most modern disk-based consoles do eventually, it seems.
Edit; Although there is certainly a problem, and given the apparent scale, MS should be doing the coffin-dance-refurb-turnaround a lot quicker than they have been. going by some of your red-ring tales of woe. You guys have my condolences. When any of your consoles die it is a very sad day. Anecdotally, I know something like 10 RL guys with 360s, only one has had the ring. And he got his after punching the 360 following disk read errors.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
You know, you'd think that if the people are right about the problem being the solder - which would make sense, considering the towel fix - it wouldn't even take that much to change the production lines so they can use regular solder.
Then again, they're probably getting paid by some hippie green company to use their shitty solder instead of the regular stuff.
Actually the solder is becoming industry standard. I think it is even required for most consumer products. Sadly, it is horrible stuff. I don't need to worry about it cause we aren't consumer-based.
So can we agree that the PS1 was shoddy, the PS2 shoddier and the 360 shoddiest? I don't care if previous systems were crappy, it does not give an excuse to why CURRENT systems are experiencing so many breakdowns. Meanwhile my original brick gameboy has been dropped, soaked in the rain and abused for a decade or so works perfectly fine.
If you've been playing the original GameBoy for the past decade, it's probably safe to assume that your eyesight hasn't held up nearly as well as the system.
There are also other methods that have had a really high success rate with fixing your 360 but it involves opening up your box and fixing an X-Clamp which seems to be a source of problems.
The stories of the Elite croaking are worrying and baffling. You'd think it would be in Microsoft's best interests to actually fix the 360's problems after a year and a half, considering the expense of customer support, shipping, repairs, etc. Not to mention the bad buzz. People who spend an extra $80 only to have the damn thing die are going to be especially vocal.
Hell, even Windows gets patched every now and again, for fuck's sake.
You know, you'd think that if the people are right about the problem being the solder - which would make sense, considering the towel fix - it wouldn't even take that much to change the production lines so they can use regular solder.
Then again, they're probably getting paid by some hippie green company to use their shitty solder instead of the regular stuff.
Actually the solder is becoming industry standard. I think it is even required for most consumer products. Sadly, it is horrible stuff. I don't need to worry about it cause we aren't consumer-based.
This is what scares me for the future of electronics. I've have my share of failures in monitors and now 360. What will the future look like is everything switches over. Will failure rates increase in the future for all electronics?
I'd just like to note that 372 days after my purchase I to joined the 3 red lights club. Currently debating if the 140 bucks for a refurb from MS is worth the hassle or If I'll wait for the 65mm chipsets whenever they arrive on store shelves. No halo 3 beta , Mass Effect, or Bioshock for me. Such a good year for the games too. Tis a bummer.
There are also other methods that have had a really high success rate with fixing your 360 but it involves opening up your box and fixing an X-Clamp which seems to be a source of problems.
Yeah, that whole x-clamp dealie looks potentially legit... of course there's the whole "My warranty is voided, and even US$140 won't get them to fix/replace this one" thing.
I personally loved the watercooled mod. If I had more cash to play with, I might have even considered a similar solution. There's even a few online retailers selling things like replacement cases, panels, fans, etc. to jazz up the case, and provide better/quieter cooling.
Hahahaha. So I called them, and apparently, you're not allowed to buy an extended warranty if you are already out of warranty. Hilariously enough, the guy that sold me one earlier was new, so because of the error, they're letting me get the warranty anyway and I get a free repair.
Sweet.
So, a couple days ago my 360 freezes while playing Spider-Man 3. No biggie.
Today I planned on downloading the update. So I turn on my 360 and hit my gamertag to load. System freezes (or it just took so long that I just restarted it). On the restart, it freezes when the Xbox ball is just showing up on the screen. The freeze is different then a regular freeze. It seems to make a staticy sound. Fuzzy. So I turn it off and on again and it eventually freezes, I forget where.
So I look at the back of my 360 and am wondering if the dust that is on the little fan I have could've went into my 360 and messed it up. I take the fan away from the back and look at the back of my 360 and of course there is dust everywhere. I used that Swifer thing that you just swipe and it collects the dust, and I wiped all over my 360. After that, I blew into the back of it to be greeted with a cloud of dust in my face. So I continued that for a little untill it didn't really come out anymore.
I turned it back on and it was running like nothing happened.
My question is, do you think it was just the dust that was screwing around with it? My year warranty is good untill August or September, so I can chance it for now I guess.
That is what my face looks like right now. Good thing I have alot of PS2 games I need to play.
So can I just walk into EB with my warranty slip and get a new 360 just like that? And another thing, I keep my harddrive right? I mean, I have stuff that I bought stored on there. Alot of stuff.
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Threepio (who works at a retailer HQ, and would be in a position to know) says they're getting complaints of dead Elites, and an Engadget article that cracked open an Elite and compareed its innards to a regular 360 says nothing much has changed (I'd link to it, but Engadget's search function sucks).
Yeah, I figured the Elite would be fixed too, but then again, I'd rather not pay $80 more for the privilege of having the hardware actually function properly.
I mean... I can understand some concern over the possibility of having a hassle and sending it in to be fixed. But in most cases people are just enjoying the games/experience.
See if I had the money to buy a console I'd look at the library... feature like online etc then I'd buy one. Maybe I get a bad one and have to send it in for a free repair... but no matter who I went with there's a chance it's going to break... maybe with MS there's a 2% more chance it's going to break.
I know if yours breaks it feels like 100% or even 200% chance of failure but all too often I see statements like "This is the only thing holding me back" from gaming bloggers to message board users and I'm like... "WTF?".
Next map packs will be $15 instead of $10 methinks. Or $20 for new Worms backgrounds? Limitless possibilities.
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You know, you'd think that if the people are right about the problem being the solder - which would make sense, considering the towel fix - it wouldn't even take that much to change the production lines so they can use regular solder.
Then again, they're probably getting paid by some hippie green company to use their shitty solder instead of the regular stuff.
I've owned maybe 10 consoles since the first atari came out and not one ever went down. Blowing into the NES was about as tragic as it got. Since January I've sent one 360 back for failure and got 3 red lights and a shut down on my second.
then i look through this thread. i think i am safe in my worried assumptions.
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You're kind of underestimating it. Yes, every console has a failure rate. However, I doubt any console has had as consistent of a problem that causes failures as the 360 without any sort of hardware changes to address the issues.
Then, really, just compare it against the PS3 and the Wii. Have we heard anything about shockingly wide-spread failure rates of either of those consoles? There was the issue with a batch of PS3s fairly recently, but that was isolated. The 360's failure doesn't seem to be isolated at all; while possibly not random, the problem seems to pervade every manufacture of the console.
Given that, it's not hard to understand why some are waiting for a hardware revision before picking one up.
Two percent more? Wow, that's spinning it. I know that internet posters can post any old thing, but the sheer volume of "dead 360" posts seems to indicate there's something big going on. Plus, out of three people I know who own 360s, two of them have had the systems die. Not to mention all the people who have sent in their 360 to get it repaired, only to have it die again. So it really is a big consideration in this case.
I wish there were internets on this scale to bitch and moan about back then but there weren't.
I know what you're saying. Maybe I'm just having such a good time with the games that I really don't see another option. My confusion is that some folks that are on gaming specific message boards and websites seem to like the games but if a console had to be fixed some kind of tragedy would ensue that would somehow demean the entire experience.
I don't care if anyone buys a 360... just trying to understand other perspectives.
if you want to call it bitching and moaning after putting about 800 dollars into this thing i could really give a shit less what you think. Seattle is that-a-way ~~~> go suck Microsoft's cock and balls there.
personally I'll stay on their ass by bitching and moaning until they fix the issue since it's my money they are taking.
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So out of the 10 friends I know, about 7 of them have already sent their systems back, one is acting funky, but nothing preventing him from playing his games after a few tries.
I get a phone call the other day from my brother in law who purchased his back in december. Asks me if I want a 360...I said sure, but I'd have to think on it. After much research, I came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth it. When I ask him why he wants to get rid of his console, he says he's returned it two times already...he's on his third console.
Instead I picked up his extra gamecube.
Anyway - I'm content with playing whatever my brother has on his x360 (which hasn't failed at all, perfectly fine). Luckily he gets just about every game that's released
It's $15 to touch me on St. Patrick's Day.
($50 every other day of the year. $75 for a happy ending.)
You stole my share of the luck you bastard!
There was, and people did. The only problem is, nobody listened. Shinji Mikami (Resident Evil) even complained about the high failure rate of the PS2 on a Japanese radio program, only to be shushed by the host of the show. There was even a petition addressing the disc read errors common on Playstation 2 consoles, which you'll find right here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ps2dre/petition.html
Unfortunately, if the mainstream news media doesn't cover it, it never happened. I firmly believe that's why Sony was able to get away with such shoddy manufacturing for both the Playstation and Playstation 2.
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Yah, my PS One went down once, and the replacement process was relatively smooth. This, as you might recal, is the third console of mine to fail. Had the repair process worked seemlessly (as it does for some), I would have been without it for about 7-10 days, tops. A big deal? Not so much.
Now, multiply that by 3 failures, and one full month since my last one died before it has been replaced, and all of a sudden the ratio of "Able to play: Expensive doorstop" gets a little disheartening. Don't get me wrong, when my first one broke, I did feel like it was a 100% failure rate, which I obviously knew wasn't the case in reality. When my third broke... well, you can imagine my frustration, especially given the time involved.
If you look at it like a luxury car (which it is not - because it may be a necessity, but let's assume you just like to tool around in a Porsche), and other Porsche owners told you that in the 18 months that they've owned, it's been in the shop for 3 months. That's one month in six. Would you want to jump right into ownership of one? Oh yeah - there's also no real customer service, they won't tell you where your car is, and you'll probably get someone else's busted car (repaired, of course) back. I'd think twice.
And I just want to state, for the record, that I am not some idiot who has put it in an unventillated space. I have actually placed it on a custom shelving unit that provides it venitllation on all four sides (even underneath!), and has 2 80mm fans moving air around it (I'll post some pics at some point). I've babied the damn thing, and it still has died three times.
Now, how do I like it? When it works, I freaking LOVE it. The whole experience, however, is tainted by the failures of customer service and the unit itself. I would have bought an elite, but not any more. Premium's good enough for me until it fails again.
another 3 months added to my already 2 year extended warranty and the refund of points are going to make up for this
missing a week of the halo 3 beta is a little bit disappointing though
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I got Irish blood and my GF touches me...
What were we talking about again?
Maybe she wants my luck; Euro launch 2005 360 still fine never a problem.
Sure it will die one day but meh... most modern disk-based consoles do eventually, it seems.
Edit; Although there is certainly a problem, and given the apparent scale, MS should be doing the coffin-dance-refurb-turnaround a lot quicker than they have been. going by some of your red-ring tales of woe. You guys have my condolences. When any of your consoles die it is a very sad day. Anecdotally, I know something like 10 RL guys with 360s, only one has had the ring. And he got his after punching the 360 following disk read errors.
If you've been playing the original GameBoy for the past decade, it's probably safe to assume that your eyesight hasn't held up nearly as well as the system.
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pretty much just wrap your 360 in a towel while it's on
i did it for my first 360, it somewhat works.
This is what scares me for the future of electronics. I've have my share of failures in monitors and now 360. What will the future look like is everything switches over. Will failure rates increase in the future for all electronics?
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that seems completely bizarre.. does it throw off their tracking device?
Yeah, that whole x-clamp dealie looks potentially legit... of course there's the whole "My warranty is voided, and even US$140 won't get them to fix/replace this one" thing.
I personally loved the watercooled mod. If I had more cash to play with, I might have even considered a similar solution. There's even a few online retailers selling things like replacement cases, panels, fans, etc. to jazz up the case, and provide better/quieter cooling.
Only if the towel is damp, Quaid.
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Sweet.
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Today I planned on downloading the update. So I turn on my 360 and hit my gamertag to load. System freezes (or it just took so long that I just restarted it). On the restart, it freezes when the Xbox ball is just showing up on the screen. The freeze is different then a regular freeze. It seems to make a staticy sound. Fuzzy. So I turn it off and on again and it eventually freezes, I forget where.
So I look at the back of my 360 and am wondering if the dust that is on the little fan I have could've went into my 360 and messed it up. I take the fan away from the back and look at the back of my 360 and of course there is dust everywhere. I used that Swifer thing that you just swipe and it collects the dust, and I wiped all over my 360. After that, I blew into the back of it to be greeted with a cloud of dust in my face. So I continued that for a little untill it didn't really come out anymore.
I turned it back on and it was running like nothing happened.
My question is, do you think it was just the dust that was screwing around with it? My year warranty is good untill August or September, so I can chance it for now I guess.
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Yea, those red lights are coming.
So, yeah.
That is what my face looks like right now. Good thing I have alot of PS2 games I need to play.
So can I just walk into EB with my warranty slip and get a new 360 just like that? And another thing, I keep my harddrive right? I mean, I have stuff that I bought stored on there. Alot of stuff.
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