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[BattleTech] Death From Above! New starter boxes coming NOW FINALLY YAAAY

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited March 7
    To my knowledge, the new version is just a reprint with different cover art and any errata rolled in.

    Currently, that errata clocks in at nine pages plus a replacement full-page diagram, so if you care about the rules waiting for the reprint is a good idea.

    If you don't care, then pull that trigger. It's a good book, and I thoroughly enjoy it.

    Now, if I could just get an errata'd version without the alternate (bad, old) cover art...

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  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
    Thanks for that info Nips. While I was waiting I discovered that I bought the new rules at drivethrurpg and downloaded them. But you know, there's something to flipping through a book that makes me have the desire to buy this version.

    Although I know that I'll get the box set that has the new one in there. Or does it not have the new book?

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    The new box sets have their own, starter-box appropriate rulebook. The rules are the same, but the BattleMech Manual gets into a whole host of options that go beyond the scope of the boxes.

    Like, the box set rules are 56 pages. The BMM is 150 pages. Does the box set need rules for Extreme Temperatures and M-Pods? Nooope.

    I personally need all that crunch, so I know what book I'm pulling out most days. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
    Interesting... Dangit, I don't need a physical book... I don't need a physical book...

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    Honestly, if I had a sizable tablet, I'd get all the rule books in PDF form just for the baked-in errata updates alone.

    As it stands, I live in Dead Tree++ land instead.

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  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    Honestly, if I had a sizable tablet, I'd get all the rule books in PDF form just for the baked-in errata updates alone.

    As it stands, I live in Dead Tree++ land instead.

    You should get your hands on a Surface. These things are all sorts of awesome.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Chief Mixologist of the Shatterdome Tiki Bar Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited March 11
    Just played my first tabletop session last night and the speed difference between people rolling purely off paper and me running Flechs is preeeetty huge. Flechs does still need more work (no way to split fire or account for heat sinks in water for instance) but for 3025 fights it's really close to perfect.

    Anyway, we ran a scenario from the GoAC box and the whole match was just perfect BT moment after perfect BT moment. The first death was a Locust that charged up to my Catapult which was one elevation up resulting in me kicking its head clean off. The next was a Commando on the enemy team that got SRM 6 ammo crit and died a glorious, explosive death. We ran short on time towards the end but while their Catapult was minty fresh, their Shadowhawk had two engine hits (one courtesy of a through armor crit) so they conceded.

    It's definitely not an easy game to learn, though, and our main saving grace was general familiarity with the franchise and my owning Total Warfare plus having watched Death From Above so I roughly remembered certain things like what triggered piloting checks, the fact that high speed turns can make you skid on roads, and other random crunchy bits. On the other hand, once you get the swing of things it's not too clunky to play (especially with flechs making attack rolling take no time at all) and all the things the game accounts for does do a weirdly good job of making the stompy robots feel like really like stompy robots.

    I think next time I'd like to experiment with leaning on Flechs more by having a tablet/laptop/whatever on each side to cut down on the record keeping and see how that goes. I'm also weirdly invested in the idea of having an ongoing RP oriented campaign so I need to look into how that all would work (and get moar books!)

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Chief Mixologist of the Shatterdome Tiki Bar Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    (and get moar books!)
    Well...shit....Looks like Tactical, Strategic, and Campaign Ops are all out of print now? That's a damn shame. Hopefully they come back outside of .pdf format.

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited March 12
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    (and get moar books!)
    Well...shit....Looks like Tactical, Strategic, and Campaign Ops are all out of print now? That's a damn shame. Hopefully they come back outside of .pdf format.

    I think CGL said they were going to put together another print run, but I'd have to double check that to be sure.

    *Checks*

    Yup...except that outside of the Total Warfare book, physical reprints of the rest of the core book line are up in the air.

    Source:
    https://bg.battletech.com/news/announcing-core-rulebook-reprints-with-vintage-covers/

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited March 14
    Oh man, that's a lot of product.

    I'm interested in that map pack, but that price....woof. Either I've forgotten how expensive those things used to be, or I've just gotten used to having them for 20+ years without having to buy new ones.

    Also, I'm pretty surprised by the neoprene mats. That's actually super-cool and surprising. I just hope the "Grasslands" side of each of those maps is different, because otherwise...bleh. I can't imagine they're not, based on those images though.

    [Edit] Also, my copy of AGoAC is coming tomorrow! Because I'm weak, and need more plastic crack. That, and the stars aligned to have eBay throw me a 15% off coupon and I found a vendor that had it in stock at retail price.

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    Fuuuuuck, guys.

    The AGoAC box is goooood. And I'm hardly past the top half of the box!

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  • IanatorIanator Delightfully mediocre! Registered User regular
    Yeah. If my box isn't in by next weekend I'm probably gonna tell them to refund my order so I can get it somewhere else. Kinda stings, especially since it isn't really the store's fault, but I'll have waited two months for nothing.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Chief Mixologist of the Shatterdome Tiki Bar Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    Fuuuuuck, guys.

    The AGoAC box is goooood. And I'm hardly past the top half of the box!

    I really dig how the included roll table includes page references to the rules. It makes quick references a lot faster and I'm a little jealous that Total Warfare doesn't come with one that has page references to Total Warfare now.

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    Alright, more impressions:

    I read through the story book from the AGoAC box. It was....not great? I'll reserve judgement until I read the one from the Beginner box as well.

    The miniatures... *chef's kiss*. Fuuuuck, these are good figs, with good sculpts. I only have two complaints:
    -The mold lines on my Shadow Hawk were outta control. I think I spent four times as long cleaning them as the next closest culprit.
    -The Awesome and BattleMaster are beautiful sculpts, but I wish they were like 10% smaller than they are. They feel huuuuge, especially next to the Light 'mechs.

    Got all my prep out of the way on the figs, so I hope to start working on them this week!

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  • ToxTox I kill threads Punch DimensionRegistered User regular
    Nips wrote: »
    -The Awesome and BattleMaster are beautiful sculpts, but I wish they were like 10% smaller than they are. They feel huuuuge, especially next to the Light 'mechs.

    Do you think they're mismatched to the point of being inaccurately large? I mean, they are assault mechs

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  • NipsNips Luxuriating in existential crisis.Registered User regular
    edited March 17
    Tox wrote: »
    Nips wrote: »
    -The Awesome and BattleMaster are beautiful sculpts, but I wish they were like 10% smaller than they are. They feel huuuuge, especially next to the Light 'mechs.

    Do you think they're mismatched to the point of being inaccurately large? I mean, they are assault mechs

    Ehh. So here's one of the dirty secrets any long-time BattleTech player eventually has to wrestle with: scale in the miniature lines, over the last 30+ years, is a suggestion at best. The notion that the miniatures are 1:300 or 1:285 is nice, but actual production has been wildly inconsistent over the years.

    There's actually been a push, at least for new sculpts in the last ten years or so, to normalize the sizes of the models. Even so, you get the occasional model that's whoa crazy huge. Then we all shrug, and move on. For example, look at the Premium Plastic Loki and Thor from one of the last box sets: they're stupid-huge compared to everything, ever. (Still sexy AF, though)

    I personally struggle with it, as an OCD engineer-type human.

    The new Assaults are honestly fine the way they are! But they make me wish they also did a new-sculpt Atlas, as big ol' skull face is supposed to be the biggest, meanest bot on the block. Next to the new Beamer, though, the old box set Atlas kinda looks like a skinny bitch.

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