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[sysadmins] - International Brotherhood of Neckbeards and Mouthbreathers Local 258

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  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    I've used one note as a convenient PDF exporter.
    Word does that natively.

    Is OneNote significantly more convenient?

    I've had Word freak out if the document contains too many pictures or other embedded objects. One Note doesn't seem to care. This might just be personal experience.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Ahhhh I see.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    I've used one note as a convenient PDF exporter.
    Word does that natively.

    Is OneNote significantly more convenient?

    I've had Word freak out if the document contains too many pictures or other embedded objects. One Note doesn't seem to care. This might just be personal experience.

    That's because in that case you should be using Publishrrkgzaaaaahmyskullisonfire

    Le_Goat
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    I have said this before - People who use Outlook as a filing cabinet need to be beaten to death with a filing cabinet.

    That goes double for people who actually use the deleted items folder as an organizational tool. I've seen motherfuckers create folders in there.

    Are you like one of my coworkers from the future or some shit?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Bah, back from Florida vacation. Luckily, so far this morning nothing stupid has happened. I have 'meetings' tomorrow though - have a feeling the stupid just waited for Tuesday.

  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    Bubby wrote: »
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    RBach wrote: »
    Does anyone know of a good resource for learning the inner workings of Outlook? Particularly when it comes to troubleshooting it. So many issues seem to boil down to "create a new profile" and I wonder if there's a better way. Besides, I'm curious.

    In other news. I despise Outlook.
    I honestly don't know of one single source. Everything I know has been from troubleshooting single items and doing research on them for 10+ years. It's pretty much been learn-as-I-go. I'm also the type of person where I'm a bit obsessive to figure out not only how to fix it, but why it happened in the first place, which helps to prevent it from happening again... well, that and I'm a nerd who gets off on stuff like that.

    Only a few times have I had to fry a profile, though. I should also note that I only deal with Outlook when it is connected to Exchange, so I never use it for anything else. Well, I guess SharePoint as well, seeing as we sync lists to Outlook as well.

    I'm trying to set up a clients exchange account on Outlook 2013 and it's been a nightmare. My friend who works professionally in IT had to help me out via screenshare, but even after that it's still giving me weird niggling problems like saying it's offline when first launched yet after closing out that warning box it works just fine.
    That delay you are talking about isn't uncommon. I've learned to ignore those pop-ups unless it goes on for a few minutes. Also depending on your AV product, you could get similar notifications when the product is updating it's definitions.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    I found out today that next week we are transitioning from Exchange to Office 365. 80-90% of our department is Macs, so I expect nothing but pain and misery. On a bright note, it means everyone is getting bumped from 2 gigs to 50 gigs of storage, so that should hopefully help placate the most aggressive complainers.

  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    RBach wrote: »
    I will pay more attention to inbox sizes. I think that's the only thing I did to mine before it got better but haven't tried elsewhere (while I'm relatively new and haven't had time to accrue a huge inbox I did get a shared helpdesk account attached to my Exchange account and it had a humongous inbox. After a couple weeks I told the other person who uses it that I was creating an "Unsorted archive" folder and moving everything from before I started that was still in the inbox there. The thing is I had gotten into the habit of not closing Outlook because of how slow it was to open and it was a good two weeks at least before I restarted and found it was much faster.)

    Before you go all gung-ho with that, heed this warning: PST files are not reliable, especially once they approach the 5GB mark. If the PST file goes corrupt... uh, it's just flat out lost and there's not a whole lot you can do other than hope that you have a working backup of that file somewhere within the past month.

    Do not EVER count on or trust PST files

    EDIT: And that's another thing that sucks. By default, Outlook has an auto-archiving feature and stores it (this is genius) on the local disk. *sarcastic slow clap*

    Le_Goat on
    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Second on the PST files. We let users use them, but warn them that it's at their own risk. We provide an archival solution through Mimosa they can access right from Outlook.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I just let people put everything in their trash bin.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    AiouaLe_Goat
  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    One of the places I used to do helpdesk for kept PSTs in the user's auto-mapped personal network share.

    It actually worked out fairly well. Had the whole 'restore previous versions' thing enabled.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Heh, my company just gave everyone 1 GB of inbox and disallowed PST's. Everything auto-expires after 90 days as well (unless you specifically mark it to keep)

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Heh, my company just gave everyone 1 GB of inbox and disallowed PST's. Everything auto-expires after 90 days as well (unless you specifically mark it to keep)

    That is going to cause some anger in about 3 months.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Delmain
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    Heh, my company just gave everyone 1 GB of inbox and disallowed PST's. Everything auto-expires after 90 days as well (unless you specifically mark it to keep)

    That is going to cause some anger in about 3 months.

    Oh, we've been doing it for a year or so. There are pieces to it I think are BS (as someone who gets a lot of data files that I need to tie to people), but I imagine at a corporate level it works great.

    bowen
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    schuss wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    Heh, my company just gave everyone 1 GB of inbox and disallowed PST's. Everything auto-expires after 90 days as well (unless you specifically mark it to keep)

    That is going to cause some anger in about 3 months.

    Oh, we've been doing it for a year or so. There are pieces to it I think are BS (as someone who gets a lot of data files that I need to tie to people), but I imagine at a corporate level it works great.
    TechHit has an add-in called EZDetach that could help you. It will save the file to a location and replace the attachment with a tiny file that links to the saved file; this will reduce the email's total size. If you forward the email, it reinserts the original attachment into the new message while still keeping the very small link attachment in the original message. The only drawback from that is that you cannot move or rename the file, else it breaks the link. The add-in is not free, but it's not too expensive.

    Le_Goat on
    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    Heh, my company just gave everyone 1 GB of inbox and disallowed PST's. Everything auto-expires after 90 days as well (unless you specifically mark it to keep)

    That is going to cause some anger in about 3 months.

    Oh, we've been doing it for a year or so. There are pieces to it I think are BS (as someone who gets a lot of data files that I need to tie to people), but I imagine at a corporate level it works great.

    That would cause some massive legal issues here. Retention periods are a thing.

    Mvrck
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Retention periods are a thing.
    ...don't mention that word in my presence

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Realistically, retention periods are odd.

    Because like, how can you even retain that much data? If I had to retain everything we'd be looking at data center sizes of data.

    Jesus. I would not want to deal with retention on email at all, ever.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    Heh, my company just gave everyone 1 GB of inbox and disallowed PST's. Everything auto-expires after 90 days as well (unless you specifically mark it to keep)

    That is going to cause some anger in about 3 months.

    Oh, we've been doing it for a year or so. There are pieces to it I think are BS (as someone who gets a lot of data files that I need to tie to people), but I imagine at a corporate level it works great.

    That would cause some massive legal issues here. Retention periods are a thing.

    That's why we're doing it. We have retention groups, but the general gist is that you retain according to the official schedule, otherwise 90 days. We also have pretty robust integrations around legal holds and discovery-related stuff, so that covers that side of things as well.

  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Lol just had a meeting that was basically 20 minutes of "you cannot change contracting companies and we will sue you if you do".

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • WeretacoWeretaco Cubicle Gangster Registered User regular
    Any AIX wizards in here?

    I'm on a 7.1 system and trying to set it up so I can mount a specific device to a specific mount point as a particular user.

    Failing that just being able to set a user to be able to mount vs having to use root would be nice.

    Unofficial PA IRC chat: #paforums at irc.slashnet.org
  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    They should use their goddamn network drives and sharepoint that they all clamored so fucking loud for and lose their shit if it goes down for more than 7 consecutive seconds.

    Hey I keep all my docs in network drives.

    But unless you put a cap on my mailbox size I will keep every email forever.
    Even with a cap, they demand more. I have one user that has been here for 3 years. His mailbox quota just got increased to 15GB. It's something I'm not happy about.
    Aioua wrote: »
    One of the places I used to do helpdesk for kept PSTs in the user's auto-mapped personal network share.

    It actually worked out fairly well. Had the whole 'restore previous versions' thing enabled.

    As an aside, having a PST on a network share is not recommended and I have seen it result in corruption and performance issues. If your LAN is bomber then it might not be an issue.

    Le_GoatCogBigity
  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    Lol just had a meeting that was basically 20 minutes of "you cannot change contracting companies and we will sue you if you do".

    One attorney could represent all of you for relatively cheap!

    bowen
  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    They should use their goddamn network drives and sharepoint that they all clamored so fucking loud for and lose their shit if it goes down for more than 7 consecutive seconds.

    Hey I keep all my docs in network drives.

    But unless you put a cap on my mailbox size I will keep every email forever.
    Even with a cap, they demand more. I have one user that has been here for 3 years. His mailbox quota just got increased to 15GB. It's something I'm not happy about.
    Aioua wrote: »
    One of the places I used to do helpdesk for kept PSTs in the user's auto-mapped personal network share.

    It actually worked out fairly well. Had the whole 'restore previous versions' thing enabled.

    As an aside, having a PST on a network share is not recommended and I have seen it result in corruption and performance issues. If your LAN is bomber then it might not be an issue.

    Oh yeah, I know.

    Honestly though, it's either that or local. PSTs are so dodgy either way I'd rather they were getting backed up.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
    Tofystedeth
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    Lol just had a meeting that was basically 20 minutes of "you cannot change contracting companies and we will sue you if you do".

    One attorney could represent all of you for relatively cheap!

    Seriously, start getting everything in writing/recording (if your state is a 1-party notification state).

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    bowen wrote: »
    Realistically, retention periods are odd.

    Because like, how can you even retain that much data? If I had to retain everything we'd be looking at data center sizes of data.

    Jesus. I would not want to deal with retention on email at all, ever.

    SAN storage, son. Also, you have Exchange (or a third party app) archive messages over a certain date and prune your mailbox databases. The archives go to long term storage.
    schuss wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    schuss wrote: »
    Heh, my company just gave everyone 1 GB of inbox and disallowed PST's. Everything auto-expires after 90 days as well (unless you specifically mark it to keep)

    That is going to cause some anger in about 3 months.

    Oh, we've been doing it for a year or so. There are pieces to it I think are BS (as someone who gets a lot of data files that I need to tie to people), but I imagine at a corporate level it works great.

    That would cause some massive legal issues here. Retention periods are a thing.

    That's why we're doing it. We have retention groups, but the general gist is that you retain according to the official schedule, otherwise 90 days. We also have pretty robust integrations around legal holds and discovery-related stuff, so that covers that side of things as well.

    Do you guys get sued much? Cause 90 days doesn't usually even cover the time before declaration of litigation, much less the full potential time frame of an issue. The company I worked at before got sued a lot. Like, 5-15 times a month. If we were just straight dumping messages over 90 days, our lawyers would have shit a Buick.

    Cog on
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Time for Bowen to put on his electrician hat.

    ... When I get my house.

    Wonder how hard it is to run a wire for electric dryer. Seems like it'd be about $100 in materials and about... 30 minutes of my time.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    The run? Easy.

    Connecting it to the breaker box? Wear rubber boots/gloves/underwear and pray, I guess.

  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    Kinda depends on how full the breaker box is and what the current draw is from the box.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    200 Amp box, half the box is still free, I'll be flipping the master when I do it and put myself into a rubber suit.

    Seems like it should be pretty much open and shut. I can run it right through the crawlspace and right along a joist into the laundry room.

    Like, we're talking maybe 50 feet tops.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Yeah, access is the biggest annoyance with any run, and if you have crawlspace the whole way, you're in good shape.

    I'm sure for the wiring itself, there's some electrician with a youtube channel who will show you how not to kill yourself.

    bowen
  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    Just remember that the main lugs are always live in a breaker box. And make sure you get the right amperage breaker and the right gauge wire for the amps. It's pretty easy after that. Just slot the breaker in, wire in the run and flip the switch.

    bowen
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Just remember that the main lugs are always live in a breaker box. And make sure you get the right amperage breaker and the right gauge wire for the amps. It's pretty easy after that. Just slot the breaker in, wire in the run and flip the switch.

    Assuming I'm no electrician, the main lugs are probably the pieces from the that are before the main breaker directly from the meter/service?

    This is using the power of deductive reasoning like I'm some kind of Sherlock Holmes.

    The hot bus bars should be de-powered if the main breaker is flipped though right?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Look, just stand there in a puddle of water and piss on the things one at a time.

    The one that zaps your balls is the one you don't want to touch.

    bowenCog
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    http://www.ehow.com/how_7474042_run-wire-dryer-breaker-box.html

    Like this seems stupidly easy assuming you're not ... just... pants on head stupid.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    http://www.ehow.com/how_7474042_run-wire-dryer-breaker-box.html

    Like this seems stupidly easy assuming you're not ... just... pants on head stupid.

    Hell of an assumption and probably infamous last words.

    RBach
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Worst case I'm figuring I'll do the run and have my electrician friend come over and finish it for a case of beer or a pizza or some shit.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Yeah, you'll have the mains coming in on the top of the breaker which will go into the shutoff switch. Even with it off, they'll be hot. You also need to know which bus bar is the ground and which bar is the neutral bus. The live wire goes into the breaker, ground to the ground bar, neutral to the neutral bar.

    And don't get an AFCI breaker for a dryer. It'll drive you crazy when it keeps flipping off and it isn't usually required by code. Edit: Unless this is a regular outlet. Then it's required. Then you need one. Get a good quality breaker. Cheap ones are shit. And you'll need an AFCI outlet.

    You did check the code requirements for your area?

    Kakodaimonos on
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    AFCI only on new construction, and it'll just be an outlet for a dryer, it already has power for a washer.

    ... Not sure if I can piggy back off that, since it's probably 30 amp by itself instead of 60.

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Weretaco wrote: »
    Any AIX wizards in here?

    I'm on a 7.1 system and trying to set it up so I can mount a specific device to a specific mount point as a particular user.

    Failing that just being able to set a user to be able to mount vs having to use root would be nice.

    Thanatos was an AIX expert via his mother. Unfortunately he's not around any more. You might be able to track him down another way though.

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