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[sysadmins] - International Brotherhood of Neckbeards and Mouthbreathers Local 258

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    bowen wrote: »
    It's the quarterly "bug the fuck out of bowen because 3 people complained faxes aren't getting through and it is perpetually busy" time!

    I litereally showed the office manager last time how it works.

    I think I need to make a powerpoint and some diagrams and make a meeting and then be all professional and come in and a suit and tie.

    The last slide will say,

    "Please stop fucking calling me because someone from another office is complaining the line is busy."

    The line is busy.

    WHAT IN THE LIVING FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO ABOUT IT

    Get an answering machine. What is this, the 1940s?

    hippofant on
    Le_Goat
  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Good ol' faxing.

    Building a replica of some lab requisitions and rolling my eyes as usual at the box labelled "Secure Fax #"

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    It's the quarterly "bug the fuck out of bowen because 3 people complained faxes aren't getting through and it is perpetually busy" time!

    I litereally showed the office manager last time how it works.

    I think I need to make a powerpoint and some diagrams and make a meeting and then be all professional and come in and a suit and tie.

    The last slide will say,

    "Please stop fucking calling me because someone from another office is complaining the line is busy."

    The line is busy.

    WHAT IN THE LIVING FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO ABOUT IT

    Get an answering machine. What is this, the 1940s?

    I hate you

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    hippofantmojojoeoAiserou
  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    It's the quarterly "bug the fuck out of bowen because 3 people complained faxes aren't getting through and it is perpetually busy" time!

    I litereally showed the office manager last time how it works.

    I think I need to make a powerpoint and some diagrams and make a meeting and then be all professional and come in and a suit and tie.

    The last slide will say,

    "Please stop fucking calling me because someone from another office is complaining the line is busy."

    The line is busy.

    WHAT IN THE LIVING FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO ABOUT IT

    Quote the cost of adding a line and phrase it as a request.

    Management knows what to do with requests that will address user complaints but cost money!

    Donovan PuppyfuckerBigityLe_GoatTofystedeth
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I've done that every single time.

    After 3 days of me being nasty and going "that is how phones work, busy signal means busy." they'll pull me in and go "so what's our solution, this isn't working."

    Then I say "well we have to upgrade our phone system and add additional lines, so roughly $20,000."

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Then everyone forgets for the next 2-3 months.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    RandomHajileInfidel
  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Whew, I thought I had really screwed up a couple of brand new LTO6 WORM tapes in our backup server. Since this was a fairly new server, I had not yet setup our year end clone pools. So I set up the yearly pool, label the two tapes, select the savesets I want to clone...and the new yearly pool is not available as a choice for cloning. Turns out I specified it as a "Backup" pool (meaning only direct backups can run to it) instead of as a "Backup Clone" pool. Okay, so I go to change that pool type setting to fix it...but NetWorker won't let you rename or change the pool type. And I've already labeled the WORM tapes to that pool, so I can't change that. So that's potentially $120 or so down the drain.

    Luckily, I was able to delete the tapes from the media index, delete the pool, re-create the pool with the same name and the right settings, re-import the tapes, and then scan the tapes to re-associate them with the named pool.

  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    How many people are still faxing for pete's sake.

    Our offices have broken fax machines/lines and don't notice for like 3 weeks.

  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Whew, I thought I had really screwed up a couple of brand new LTO6 WORM tapes in our backup server. Since this was a fairly new server, I had not yet setup our year end clone pools. So I set up the yearly pool, label the two tapes, select the savesets I want to clone...and the new yearly pool is not available as a choice for cloning. Turns out I specified it as a "Backup" pool (meaning only direct backups can run to it) instead of as a "Backup Clone" pool. Okay, so I go to change that pool type setting to fix it...but NetWorker won't let you rename or change the pool type. And I've already labeled the WORM tapes to that pool, so I can't change that. So that's potentially $120 or so down the drain.

    Luckily, I was able to delete the tapes from the media index, delete the pool, re-create the pool with the same name and the right settings, re-import the tapes, and then scan the tapes to re-associate them with the named pool.

    Does Networker still screw you over with it's port from Unix? AKA - everything is case sensitive?

    EDIT: OR maybe you are on Unix, but it sucked back when I had to deal with it on Windows NT.

    Bigity on
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Bigity wrote: »
    How many people are still faxing for pete's sake.

    Our offices have broken fax machines/lines and don't notice for like 3 weeks.

    Doctor's offices.

    We get about 200 a day.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Tofystedeth
  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    How many people are still faxing for pete's sake.

    Our offices have broken fax machines/lines and don't notice for like 3 weeks.

    Doctor's offices.

    We get about 200 a day.

    In the health industry, you live by the fax, which is dumb, but that's how it is.

    When a fax machine goes down at some office, there is a region-wide email that goes out...

    OrokosPA.png
    bowenCarpy
  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Bigity wrote: »
    Whew, I thought I had really screwed up a couple of brand new LTO6 WORM tapes in our backup server. Since this was a fairly new server, I had not yet setup our year end clone pools. So I set up the yearly pool, label the two tapes, select the savesets I want to clone...and the new yearly pool is not available as a choice for cloning. Turns out I specified it as a "Backup" pool (meaning only direct backups can run to it) instead of as a "Backup Clone" pool. Okay, so I go to change that pool type setting to fix it...but NetWorker won't let you rename or change the pool type. And I've already labeled the WORM tapes to that pool, so I can't change that. So that's potentially $120 or so down the drain.

    Luckily, I was able to delete the tapes from the media index, delete the pool, re-create the pool with the same name and the right settings, re-import the tapes, and then scan the tapes to re-associate them with the named pool.

    Does Networker still screw you over with it's port from Unix? AKA - everything is case sensitive?

    EDIT: OR maybe you are on Unix, but it sucked back when I had to deal with it on Windows NT.
    Nah, what happened is that I couldn't delete and re-add the pool because it had tapes associated with the pool, and since they are WORM tapes, I couldn't change the pool that they were associated with after they were already labeled. I'm super lucky that it let me do what I did.

    All Windows here. The Windows stuff is actually pretty nice now. I'm sure there's still some case sensitivity under the hood (some of the command line switches at least), but I pretty much manage it all from the GUI. I rarely have to drop to the command line, except in instances like this where I had to run scanner after a load without mount (because the damn thing kept ejecting it when I just did a GUI drag load and mount).

    When I started here, all of the GUI stuff was compiled Windows executables. At some point (7.2 or 7.3 I want to say) they made the management console Java-based and it was a bit of a pain. Now the GUI in 8.2 works well, and it is laid out intelligently (with the usual NetWorker quirks). What's really neat is that I was invited to sit in on a UI design feedback session at EMCWorld a few years back, and some of the suggestions I (and others, I'm sure) made were put into the release of the client a couple months later. I was impressed that they actually listened to people who use the product every day.

    Over the past couple of years, they really have done a good job with VMware integration and the scheduled clone process, but my favorite thing that's not really even documented is that I can get the group name in the backup success/failure email so I don't have to open the email to see which savegroup it was.

  • DraygoDraygo Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »

    WHAT IN THE LIVING FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO ABOUT IT

    Clearly...

    Freeze poop.

    bowen
  • ueanuean Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    bowen wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    How many people are still faxing for pete's sake.

    Our offices have broken fax machines/lines and don't notice for like 3 weeks.

    Doctor's offices.

    We get about 200 a day.

    I did IT for a 40~ physician office a few years back. Put in a GFI Fax solution, fax server with 4 lines in to receive the faxes digitally and convert them to PDF and save on the server.

    You know, totally makes sense to manually scan and make a direct handset-handset connection, transmit data at 9600baud with no encryption, receive the garbled and downscaled data on the other side, de-res and manipulate to electronic format, convert to PDF, and store on the server instead of... emailing it

    More infuriating was knowing that most other offices had electronic records going, but only half implemented, so they were f*cking printing PDFs from their own EMR system, then putting them into the fax. Arggg!

    The worst part was that I was requested (and did as I was told, I hang my head now) to send a copy of every fax to the physician's printer as well as the digital copy being made on the server. So lets follow the workflow:

    EMR system in other office has a form that needs to go to my doctor
    Other office prints PDF form out of their printer
    Other office puts printed PDF into fax machine
    My office receives printed PDF over fax line and converts to digital PDF and stores it on the server
    Printed PDF which was sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server, is then pushed to printer and printed back to paper so some stupid lazy doctor can sign it
    The last step (this is the best step): Printed PDF sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server and printed back to paper and signed by stupid lazy doctor is given to MOA staff to scan to PDF and import into EMR on our end.

    Those of you following the workflow will note that the PDF could be signed electronically once it is on the server then stored direct into the EMR. That's how it should work. That is not how doctors work. And I think only Bowen can truly understand that a doctor = your worst user story + arrogance + tech-idiot + demands you dance because he makes more money than you = the worst user ever.

    And that is why I do not work for medical clinics any longer. Also why I grew a pair of balls and started saying "no" to stupidity like this.

    uean on
    Guys? Hay guys?
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    AiouabowenelectricitylikesmeTofystedeth
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    uean wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    How many people are still faxing for pete's sake.

    Our offices have broken fax machines/lines and don't notice for like 3 weeks.

    Doctor's offices.

    We get about 200 a day.

    I did IT for a 40~ physician office a few years back. Put in a GFI Fax solution, fax server with 4 lines in to receive the faxes digitally and convert them to PDF and save on the server.

    You know, totally makes sense to manually scan and make a direct handset-handset connection, transmit data at 9600baud with no encryption, receive the garbled and downscaled data on the other side, de-res and manipulate to electronic format, convert to PDF, and store on the server instead of... emailing it

    More infuriating was knowing that most other offices had electronic records going, but only half implemented, so they were f*cking printing PDFs from their own EMR system, then putting them into the fax. Arggg!

    The worst part was that I was requested (and did as I was told, I hang my head now) to send a copy of every fax to the physician's printer as well as the digital copy being made on the server. So lets follow the workflow:

    EMR system in other office has a form that needs to go to my doctor
    Other office prints PDF form out of their printer
    Other office puts printed PDF into fax machine
    My office receives printed PDF over fax line and converts to digital PDF and stores it on the server
    Printed PDF which was sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server, is then pushed to printer and printed back to paper so some stupid lazy doctor can sign it
    The last step (this is the best step): Printed PDF sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server and printed back to paper and signed by stupid lazy doctor is given to MOA staff to scan to PDF and import into EMR on our end.

    Those of you following the workflow will note that the PDF could be signed electronically once it is on the server then stored direct into the EMR. That's how it should work. That is not how doctors work. And I think only Bowen can truly understand that a doctor = your worst user story + arrogance + tech-idiot + demands you dance because he makes more money than you = the worst user ever.

    And that is why I do not work for medical clinics any longer. Also why I grew a pair of balls and started saying "no" to stupidity like this.

    You can fix a person.

    But you can't fix a computer.

    *Counter dance.*

    GethBigity
  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    uean wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    How many people are still faxing for pete's sake.

    Our offices have broken fax machines/lines and don't notice for like 3 weeks.

    Doctor's offices.

    We get about 200 a day.

    I did IT for a 40~ physician office a few years back. Put in a GFI Fax solution, fax server with 4 lines in to receive the faxes digitally and convert them to PDF and save on the server.

    You know, totally makes sense to manually scan and make a direct handset-handset connection, transmit data at 9600baud with no encryption, receive the garbled and downscaled data on the other side, de-res and manipulate to electronic format, convert to PDF, and store on the server instead of... emailing it

    More infuriating was knowing that most other offices had electronic records going, but only half implemented, so they were f*cking printing PDFs from their own EMR system, then putting them into the fax. Arggg!

    The worst part was that I was requested (and did as I was told, I hang my head now) to send a copy of every fax to the physician's printer as well as the digital copy being made on the server. So lets follow the workflow:

    EMR system in other office has a form that needs to go to my doctor
    Other office prints PDF form out of their printer
    Other office puts printed PDF into fax machine
    My office receives printed PDF over fax line and converts to digital PDF and stores it on the server
    Printed PDF which was sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server, is then pushed to printer and printed back to paper so some stupid lazy doctor can sign it
    The last step (this is the best step): Printed PDF sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server and printed back to paper and signed by stupid lazy doctor is given to MOA staff to scan to PDF and import into EMR on our end.

    Those of you following the workflow will note that the PDF could be signed electronically once it is on the server then stored direct into the EMR. That's how it should work. That is not how doctors work. And I think only Bowen can truly understand that a doctor = your worst user story + arrogance + tech-idiot + demands you dance because he makes more money than you = the worst user ever.

    And that is why I do not work for medical clinics any longer. Also why I grew a pair of balls and started saying "no" to stupidity like this.

    I think Gnome, Infidel and I are all medical industry veterans. And if you want a great example of an asshole doctor making demands:

    We have faculty at six different locations all throughout the city. Once a month we have Grand Rounds, which is basically a lecture series where our faculty present cases, researchers or what have you. This goes towards their continuing education requirements, so the attendings really need to attend. Because they happen at 6:45am, and most of our surgeons start at their clinics at 7:30am, what would happen is a lot of them would show up for 10 minutes to sign in to get credit, and then leave. So, at the request of this one surgeon, my boss actually went out and got special permission for our doctors to get the CE credit by watching a provided live stream. So we started showing up to film and stream these events, moving a 6:30am start time to 5:30am.

    For the next fucking year, every month said doctor would complain about something on the stream. Our budget for doing the streaming stuff is/was nonexistant. We were paying for the equipment out of our discretionary budget, so over the last year or so, we've finally addressed most of the issues (mostly, a lack of multiple camera views, and getting Q&A mics that could be fed into both the auditorium and the stream through a couple of mixers, a better computer so we can stream in HD, etc, etc). Every time we addressed an issue, he'd find something else to complain about. Eventually, he ran out of technical things, and went to "Well, we really should be able to ask questions while we're viewing remotely." When we told him to send us emails with his questions during the event and we'd pass them along, that was an "unacceptable" solution.

    So we got all of our shit working with Google Hangouts on air. We got our other tech guy at his hospital to show up and hour early to make sure everything was set up and working. So earlier this month, we had our first multi-site streaming Grand Rounds. As far as I know, we may literally be the only program in the fucking world that does this and provides educational credit for the physicians watching from elsewhere. Everything is set up, working, going fucking great. The presentation is winding down, and the Q&A is minutes from starting, and I'm watching the control panel of the hangout, and I watch the one remote location with said doctor disconnected. Oh shit.

    I immediately panic and call up the tech guy there to try to figure out just what went wrong and to get them back ASAP so said doctor wouldn't freak out. Co worker picks up the phone, and I'm all "What happened, and will you rejoin soon?".
    Co-worker: "Nah, the doctors got tired of waiting for it to wrap up so they decided to turn it off and start their group meeting early."
    Me: "Oh god, I bet *doctor* is pissed."
    Co-worker: "Actually it was his idea."

    YOU MOTHER FUCKER.

    bowenInfidelDelmainelectricitylikesmeTofystedeth
  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    I believe I may have mentioned this once or twice but

    Mother's a doc. So. Imagine living with one during your teenage years, when all the cool new tech stuff is coming out and you're into it and able to understand it and do awesome cool things with it.

    Now imagine having a doctor for a mother that wants to hop on the bandwagon too (and is feeling old, I could tell because toe rings) and has absolutely no idea what the fuck to do with anything.

    Every. Day.

    And because she was a doctor and boss at work when she asked you something, she never phrased it as a question. It was a -demand- (and frankly, still is)

    She never took a real interest in anything tech wise. I'd wind up repeating myself constantly when it came to explaining simple shit.

    I actually charge her now. No joke. She wants me to come over and work on something of hers while she sits and glares at me over her shoulder, I charge.

    I wouldn't even mind it if she took an active interest in whatever was broken and how you can fix it but like all things regarding her house, she doesn't actually do any upkeep. I think the last time I saw her with a vacuum cleaner in hand was like, seven years ago.

    tl;dr Doctors fucking suck when it comes to learning how to fix anything but the mechanics of the human body.

  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    I'm also in the medical-industry-PTSD club.


    I just got back in from a week at pax south. Only 1200 emails, after all my filters ran. -_-

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
    Delmain
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    FYI: If you're still using Server 2003 (any version or release), extended support ends (i.e., end of life) this July. 2008 is still good for another 5 years, just no more SPs or non-security related updates.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    I believe I may have mentioned this once or twice but

    Mother's a doc. So. Imagine living with one during your teenage years, when all the cool new tech stuff is coming out and you're into it and able to understand it and do awesome cool things with it.

    Now imagine having a doctor for a mother that wants to hop on the bandwagon too (and is feeling old, I could tell because toe rings) and has absolutely no idea what the fuck to do with anything.

    Every. Day.

    And because she was a doctor and boss at work when she asked you something, she never phrased it as a question. It was a -demand- (and frankly, still is)

    She never took a real interest in anything tech wise. I'd wind up repeating myself constantly when it came to explaining simple shit.

    I actually charge her now. No joke. She wants me to come over and work on something of hers while she sits and glares at me over her shoulder, I charge.

    I wouldn't even mind it if she took an active interest in whatever was broken and how you can fix it but like all things regarding her house, she doesn't actually do any upkeep. I think the last time I saw her with a vacuum cleaner in hand was like, seven years ago.

    tl;dr Doctors fucking suck when it comes to learning how to fix anything but the mechanics of the human body.

    Hopefully your mom's group isn't one of the groups I work on the side for @trace.

    Also, our phone system converts faxes to PDFs on the fly. It's still somewhat wonky and not perfect, but at that level it's almost always a hardware issue.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    FYI: If you're still using Server 2003 (any version or release), extended support ends (i.e., end of life) this July. 2008 is still good for another 5 years, just no more SPs or non-security related updates.

    I'm hoping to wind down our 2003 server this year since we no longer should need visual foxpro.

    This will be glorious.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Le_Goat
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    I believe I may have mentioned this once or twice but

    Mother's a doc. So. Imagine living with one during your teenage years, when all the cool new tech stuff is coming out and you're into it and able to understand it and do awesome cool things with it.

    Now imagine having a doctor for a mother that wants to hop on the bandwagon too (and is feeling old, I could tell because toe rings) and has absolutely no idea what the fuck to do with anything.

    Every. Day.

    And because she was a doctor and boss at work when she asked you something, she never phrased it as a question. It was a -demand- (and frankly, still is)

    She never took a real interest in anything tech wise. I'd wind up repeating myself constantly when it came to explaining simple shit.

    I actually charge her now. No joke. She wants me to come over and work on something of hers while she sits and glares at me over her shoulder, I charge.

    I wouldn't even mind it if she took an active interest in whatever was broken and how you can fix it but like all things regarding her house, she doesn't actually do any upkeep. I think the last time I saw her with a vacuum cleaner in hand was like, seven years ago.

    tl;dr Doctors fucking suck when it comes to learning how to fix anything but the mechanics of the human body.
    I feel your pain. My dad was a doctor and started his own clinic. My mom was his office manager. Trying to explain technical things to them was like pulling teeth. The worst was when they totally went against your advice, then came complaining to you and told you to fix it when all they had to do was listen to you in the first place.

    For fuck's sake, my dad still insists on opening up the AOL application to browse and then complains to me that his computer is slow. No fucking shit, dad! Stop using the AOL program. It's a resource hog. "But how can I use the internet?" Open IE and browse. "But I need to connect to the internet, right? That's what AOL is for." Oh christ, look it's not '95 anymore. We don't have dial-up. We don't need to select which number our modem is going to connect to. Just open IE and browse. "But what about my mail? And I like how AOL looks." Fine, here you go. Stop complaining about the speed. Seriously. There is only so much I can do for you if you insist on using the AOL program to do everything.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    AOL was really ahead of it's time in 1995.

    I think it was single handedly the reason the internet exploded.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Le_GoatMvrckDelmain
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    AOL was really ahead of it's time in 1995.

    I think it was single handedly the reason the internet exploded.
    I refuse to condone the use of it 20 years later.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
    InfidelDraygobowenschussDelmainRandomHajileVegemyteTofystedethBigity
  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    I can't really share details but we're still dealing with stupid shit and a totally terrible design (and the fallout of said terrible design) of some integration work that was analyzed, multiple times, and kept getting the same answer (board agreeing with our recommendation), all because of one doctor, and despite being told no and why it will end up working terribly, circumvented the fucking top levels and got his way anyways.

    Not only is it a bad solution, there is an entire new project underway now because hey turns out this is shit and they don't like it and now it needs to be fixed and fuck, man. So the fix? Yep, keep ignoring everyone that knows what they're doing and that's why they're here, make up your shit solution out of sheer stubbornness.

    This is all over the integration of the two most important systems at the most important hospital in our region.

    We'll see how that goes. I expect great things.

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    bowen
  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    I'm still suck with 2003 because of the main admin-tool that our back-end database uses for all configuration is an MMC snap-in that crashes in anything newer than 2003. >:[

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Anything more complicated than a toaster or that doesn't have an engine my dad is utterly useless with.

    My mom, to my knowledge, still walks past the fireplace and if it needs a load of wood to keep the fire going, she still won't put a load in. It's nothing but pure laziness on her part and I hate her for it.

    She's literally had everything handed to her on a silver platter her entire life. Meanwhile, she'll attempt to threaten my inheritance for some bullshit reason pertaining to responsibility and how she feels I'm not responsible enough. Bad news for her is I have the family lawyer on my side.

    Yet I have two kids I stay at home and raise (well, school now so, freedom!) while also taking care of the house -and- also finding time to do shit I personally enjoy. If that's not responsibility I don't know what is.

  • SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    For about a year maybe, but it's been limiting and redundant and a joke ever since.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    AOL was really ahead of it's time in 1995.

    I think it was single handedly the reason the internet exploded.

    My father was involved in beta testing AOL pre-launch way back when. As a result, he had the opportunity to buy stock in them (obviously for next to nothing at the time). He (and a friend of his) declined because, "This thing is never going to take off."

    I may never forgive him for this decision...

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    twmjr wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    AOL was really ahead of it's time in 1995.

    I think it was single handedly the reason the internet exploded.

    My father was involved in beta testing AOL pre-launch way back when. As a result, he had the opportunity to buy stock in them (obviously for next to nothing at the time). He (and a friend of his) declined because, "This thing is never going to take off."

    I may never forgive him for this decision...

    He'd be the guy that never sold his stock once they started to tank though.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Le_GoatDelmainVegemyteBigity
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    I'm still suck with 2003 because of the main admin-tool that our back-end database uses for all configuration is an MMC snap-in that crashes in anything newer than 2003. >:[
    Damn that blows. I had the same issue with a security card system that would only work on this on 98 machine. I tried migrating the database to an XP system and everything. Never worked right, so I was stuck using the 98 machine until we upgraded to a brand spanking new security card system last year.

    The year was 2014. It was the year that I officially stopped working on Windows 98 machine. No tears were shed, but beers were drunk as I kicked it's sappy ass to the curb.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • lwt1973lwt1973 King of Thieves SyndicationRegistered User regular
    Excel question: Any way you can type in a number in a cell and have the difference between that number and the former number in that cell appear in another cell?

    So if I have 600 in cell A1 and then type in 700 in cell A1, I want 100 to show up in cell B1.

    "He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
  • lwt1973lwt1973 King of Thieves SyndicationRegistered User regular
    uean wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    How many people are still faxing for pete's sake.

    Our offices have broken fax machines/lines and don't notice for like 3 weeks.

    Doctor's offices.

    We get about 200 a day.

    I did IT for a 40~ physician office a few years back. Put in a GFI Fax solution, fax server with 4 lines in to receive the faxes digitally and convert them to PDF and save on the server.

    You know, totally makes sense to manually scan and make a direct handset-handset connection, transmit data at 9600baud with no encryption, receive the garbled and downscaled data on the other side, de-res and manipulate to electronic format, convert to PDF, and store on the server instead of... emailing it

    More infuriating was knowing that most other offices had electronic records going, but only half implemented, so they were f*cking printing PDFs from their own EMR system, then putting them into the fax. Arggg!

    The worst part was that I was requested (and did as I was told, I hang my head now) to send a copy of every fax to the physician's printer as well as the digital copy being made on the server. So lets follow the workflow:

    EMR system in other office has a form that needs to go to my doctor
    Other office prints PDF form out of their printer
    Other office puts printed PDF into fax machine
    My office receives printed PDF over fax line and converts to digital PDF and stores it on the server
    Printed PDF which was sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server, is then pushed to printer and printed back to paper so some stupid lazy doctor can sign it
    The last step (this is the best step): Printed PDF sent over fax, received and converted back to PDF and stored on server and printed back to paper and signed by stupid lazy doctor is given to MOA staff to scan to PDF and import into EMR on our end.

    Those of you following the workflow will note that the PDF could be signed electronically once it is on the server then stored direct into the EMR. That's how it should work. That is not how doctors work. And I think only Bowen can truly understand that a doctor = your worst user story + arrogance + tech-idiot + demands you dance because he makes more money than you = the worst user ever.

    And that is why I do not work for medical clinics any longer. Also why I grew a pair of balls and started saying "no" to stupidity like this.

    I tried doing it all electronically so it would be sent to all their emails in PDF form.

    Everyone just complained to their bosses and printed it out.

    A little bit of my soul died on that day.

    "He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    Excel question: Any way you can type in a number in a cell and have the difference between that number and the former number in that cell appear in another cell?

    So if I have 600 in cell A1 and then type in 700 in cell A1, I want 100 to show up in cell B1.

    Not without VBA

    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4668410/how-do-i-get-the-old-value-of-a-changed-cell-in-excel-vba

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    RandomHajile
  • DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    Excel question: Any way you can type in a number in a cell and have the difference between that number and the former number in that cell appear in another cell?

    So if I have 600 in cell A1 and then type in 700 in cell A1, I want 100 to show up in cell B1.

    Even if it's possible, that's really not something Excel was designed for, what are you doing that this is the solution for?

    Le_GoatbowenInfidelRandomHajile
  • lwt1973lwt1973 King of Thieves SyndicationRegistered User regular
    Delmain wrote: »
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    Excel question: Any way you can type in a number in a cell and have the difference between that number and the former number in that cell appear in another cell?

    So if I have 600 in cell A1 and then type in 700 in cell A1, I want 100 to show up in cell B1.

    Even if it's possible, that's really not something Excel was designed for, what are you doing that this is the solution for?

    A department has a spreadsheet that they use. They put information into it and now they want to alter it so that the readings they put into it are compared to the old information.

    Thankfully, the spreadsheets will go away as we have a software solution in the works but users hate change.

    "He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    Excel question: Any way you can type in a number in a cell and have the difference between that number and the former number in that cell appear in another cell?

    So if I have 600 in cell A1 and then type in 700 in cell A1, I want 100 to show up in cell B1.

    Even if it's possible, that's really not something Excel was designed for, what are you doing that this is the solution for?

    A department has a spreadsheet that they use. They put information into it and now they want to alter it so that the readings they put into it are compared to the old information.

    Thankfully, the spreadsheets will go away as we have a software solution in the works but users hate change.

    Right, that's why they should type new values and keep the old, not write over them.

    What happens when they need to refer to it? If they care what the difference is they care what the old value was. It's not more work to put the values in a new cell?

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    Le_GoatDelmain
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    Infidel wrote: »
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    lwt1973 wrote: »
    Excel question: Any way you can type in a number in a cell and have the difference between that number and the former number in that cell appear in another cell?

    So if I have 600 in cell A1 and then type in 700 in cell A1, I want 100 to show up in cell B1.

    Even if it's possible, that's really not something Excel was designed for, what are you doing that this is the solution for?

    A department has a spreadsheet that they use. They put information into it and now they want to alter it so that the readings they put into it are compared to the old information.

    Thankfully, the spreadsheets will go away as we have a software solution in the works but users hate change.

    Right, that's why they should type new values and keep the old, not write over them.

    What happens when they need to refer to it? If they care what the difference is they care what the old value was. It's not more work to put the values in a new cell?
    Or just create a new sheet in the workbook and run comparisons that way. You could have the old entries on one sheet, copy that sheet into a new sheet where they enter new entries, then another sheet that is solely for the purpose of comparing the values.

    Also add a pie chart, because only commies dislike pie. And speaking of pie, I just have to add this because it's awesome.
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    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
    Bolthorn
  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    In my hand, I am currently holding 64GB of RAM. It feels like the first time I held a real $100-bill.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • donavannjdonavannj Registered User regular
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    In my hand, I am currently holding 64GB of RAM. It feels like the first time I held a real $100-bill.

    On a single stick? Or on a couple of sticks?

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