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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    How about we stop talking about dual wielding and start talking about the thing we need.

    Vehicles. We need a mf'ing car to enable fast travel.
    They can put in cars if they want. We did have one in Fallout 2 anyway.

    Never used horses in Oblivion and Skyrim for long, with fast travel and the worlds never being big enough to really need a mount, I've never really liked them much.

    Generally I dismount way too many times to pick flowers, fight random encounters or get a better sense of awareness.

    I'll probably never use cars myself if the world space styles stay the same and you can get around on foot pretty quickly and it feels better to wander the wastes that way but if you can put guns and battering rams on them, hell, I'll use them every now and then for the hell of it.

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  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    How about we stop talking about dual wielding and start talking about the thing we need.

    Vehicles. We need a mf'ing car to enable fast travel.

    Now we're getting somewhere.

    Why, in the year of our lord two thousand and fourteen, do I have to mod in Hoverchair? That shit should come standard with the game.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    How about we stop talking about dual wielding and start talking about the thing we need.

    Vehicles. We need a mf'ing car to enable fast travel.
    They can put in cars if they want. We did have one in Fallout 2 anyway.

    Never used horses in Oblivion and Skyrim for long, with fast travel and the worlds never being big enough to really need a mount, I've never really liked them much.

    Generally I dismount way too many times to pick flowers, fight random encounters or get a better sense of awareness.

    I'll probably never use cars myself if the world space styles stay the same and you can get around on foot pretty quickly and it feels better to wander the wastes that way but if you can put guns and battering rams on them, hell, I'll use them every now and then for the hell of it.

    Best thing about horses in Skyrim; they allow fast travel while overburdened.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    It doesn't fit the established Fallout aesthetic.
    Nothing can stop a Highwayman.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    It doesn't fit the established Fallout aesthetic.
    Nothing can stop a Highwayman.
    Or stop it from running over ghouls anyway.

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    oops

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    That was one of the bummers of New Vegas.

    The Legion really didn't live up to what I was expecting. I knew Obsidian would inject some much needed morally gray back into Fallout (and they did for the most part) but Caesar's Legion was far too inhuman and savage to find any sort of hopeful future in there. They're living a pretty hardcore monstrous lifestyle.

    Hell, atleast the Enclave would kill you and get it over with. The Legion will enslave you and make you spend the next thirty years wishing you were dead.

    the Fallout BOS game by microforte had the midwest brotherhood basically being a morally grey Caesar's legion

    they used brutal tactics and slave labor of tribes that refused to assimilate, so they were bad, but they were also educating settlements that joined of their own accord and had an apprenticeship system so that a few people dying would never lead to things being lost. They were devoted not just to finding and protecting technology but inventing and creating it

    I wish the legion was like them. In fact I wish instead of the legion we had gotten the midwest brotherhood, they're a much more compelling faction (basically what the brotherhood would be if they allowed new members and started claiming territory)

    I mean sure most of the writing in that game was childish as shit but I really like where the brotherhood went in it

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    I have BoS, installed actually.

    I should really get around to playing it for longer then the intro movie.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    It doesn't fit the established Fallout aesthetic.
    Nothing can stop a Highwayman.

    The highwayman came riding
    Up to the old inn door

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Legion felt like a boring version of Klingons.

    Was anyone else disappointed with the Potomac River in Fallout 3? It only had a presence in a quarter of the map and dried up further inland, felt like a waste.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    I'm still pissed they didn't do anything with the White House.

    Yeah, it makes sense the area would just be a giant crater but seems ripe for Enclave shenanigans.

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  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    Every time I swing by the Fallout thread I want to go back to my Ultimate New Vegas game. I'm at the point of finally finishing the four DLCs, but just feel no motivation to finish the game a third time, after having played vanilla NV to death when it was first released...

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Akilae wrote: »
    Every time I swing by the Fallout thread I want to go back to my Ultimate New Vegas game. I'm at the point of finally finishing the four DLCs, but just feel no motivation to finish the game a third time, after having played vanilla NV to death when it was first released...
    Are you playing on PC or console?

    I think I must have put in over 500 hours between my PS3 and 360 versions of Fallout 3.

    Still going on PC.

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  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    I'm on the PC. All the mods and all that are fun and interesting, but I just can't bring myself to finish the main quest line knowing I'll have to slog through the Big Dam(n) Battle.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Akilae wrote: »
    I'm on the PC. All the mods and all that are fun and interesting, but I just can't bring myself to finish the main quest line knowing I'll have to slog through the Big Dam(n) Battle.
    I usually do about one or two vanilla quests before moving on to a new mod.

    Have you played Beyond Boulder Dome? Plays like a new DLC, it's a new world space with a whole new questline, armor weapons, etc.

    I'm guessing you already played that along with the rest of the big ones but still, always worth mentioning. Probably still my favorite quest mod along with everything Someguy has put out (New Vegas Bounties, Russel, Inheritance).

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Akilae wrote: »
    I'm on the PC. All the mods and all that are fun and interesting, but I just can't bring myself to finish the main quest line knowing I'll have to slog through the Big Dam(n) Battle.

    The Big Dam Battle is barely an afterthought if you've finished the DLC with at least one maxed combat skill, what are you finding difficult? Heck, even armed companions will likely make it a cake walk.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Just go in there with Veronica, sit back and drink a nuka cola while she has a power fist buffet running at her.

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  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    It's the killing of all the mooks that I find annoying. If only there was a way to...

    oh.

    Hold on, I believe I have a satellite canon to hack.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Annnd now I'm reinstalling Fallout 3 aswell after seeing the hoverchair video posted.

    Got a good idea for a ghoul scientist build. A nice energy weapon alternative to my Raider set in my NV playthrough.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    That was one of the bummers of New Vegas.

    The Legion really didn't live up to what I was expecting. I knew Obsidian would inject some much needed morally gray back into Fallout (and they did for the most part) but Caesar's Legion was far too inhuman and savage to find any sort of hopeful future in there. They're living a pretty hardcore monstrous lifestyle.

    Hell, atleast the Enclave would kill you and get it over with. The Legion will enslave you and make you spend the next thirty years wishing you were dead.

    the Fallout BOS game by microforte had the midwest brotherhood basically being a morally grey Caesar's legion

    they used brutal tactics and slave labor of tribes that refused to assimilate, so they were bad, but they were also educating settlements that joined of their own accord and had an apprenticeship system so that a few people dying would never lead to things being lost. They were devoted not just to finding and protecting technology but inventing and creating it

    I wish the legion was like them. In fact I wish instead of the legion we had gotten the midwest brotherhood, they're a much more compelling faction (basically what the brotherhood would be if they allowed new members and started claiming territory)

    I mean sure most of the writing in that game was childish as shit but I really like where the brotherhood went in it

    It mostly was, yeah. But I had the same thought about the Midwestern BOS when playing.

    And no nonsense about sexism, racism, or the like. If you were willing and able to be of use, they'd deploy you.

    Did an LP of it on the forums a bit back. It's not a great game, but it's good fun.

    And it has the single most obscenely overpowered weapon in the series.

  • AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »

    It mostly was, yeah. But I had the same thought about the Midwestern BOS when playing.

    And no nonsense about sexism, racism, or the like. If you were willing and able to be of use, they'd deploy you.

    Did an LP of it on the forums a bit back. It's not a great game, but it's good fun.

    And it has the single most obscenely overpowered weapon in the series.

    The .50 MG with DU rounds? I still remember that monster. Ammo was so heavy I had everybody packing extra rounds for it.

  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Akilae wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »

    It mostly was, yeah. But I had the same thought about the Midwestern BOS when playing.

    And no nonsense about sexism, racism, or the like. If you were willing and able to be of use, they'd deploy you.

    Did an LP of it on the forums a bit back. It's not a great game, but it's good fun.

    And it has the single most obscenely overpowered weapon in the series.

    The .50 MG with DU rounds? I still remember that monster. Ammo was so heavy I had everybody packing extra rounds for it.

    Ma Deuce?

    She was a fine lady, and no mistake, but that's not what I was thinking of.

    Gauss. Minigun.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    As long as you have ammo, everything in front of you dies.
    I love that portable nuclear bazookas and grenade machine guns were cited earlier as examples of unrealistic cool stuff that don't fit the Fallout setting, when both are real.

    Both exist, but not man portable ones. Even if they did, then would be unpractible.

    We have a game with giant ants, hybrid species, nuclear powered cars, guns powered by dog brains, and the ability to turn into a walking bomb.

    But holding a knife in one hand and a gun in the other is a bridge to far.....

    Edit: I also want that BoS 2 game. Fallout in the South filled with a swamp of mutant plants and animals? Yes please!

    Well yeah, but when was the last time something like how heavy a weapon "really" is stop game developers from making in available to a player? You REALLY want to go in and take out all those M134 miniguns out of FPS games inspired by Predator? Cause that would be pretty anti-fun.

    Same thing applies here, nuclear bazookas and rapid fire explosive death for everyone!

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    As much as I want vehicles, and theyre going to have a hard time not including them just for believability, they would ruin that slow methodical uncovering of every rock and stone that the previous fallouts were so great at. Like youre going to have to make the game world much larger and less detailed if you expect people to be blasting past it.

    They would basically have to go the Skyrim route and make mounts not that much faster than walking.
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    As for animations:

    Some of the reason why Bethesda has had such terrible animations is that there is just so much for them to take into account when animating. Its the freedom, variety and the fact that NPCs behave by all the same rulesets as the PC. Like its also just that theyre not good at it. But theres a difference between programming animations for something like Ryse vs Skyrim.

    Also Skyrim's faces and bodies looked fantastic for how many there were, and the animations largely held up given how many you could do, and how many contexts they found themselves in.

    Like if you were to take a random NPC from another game and put it in the world of Skyrim, it would end up looking wrong, unless you had access to Rockstar's euphoria money.

    Theres just a lot to consider, from landscape variation to movement in first and third persons, to being able to wield and wear so many different items in a huge variety of contexts. I was playing wolfenstien recently and the amount of shenanigans enemies got into with their animations (from stretching too far around corners, to holding guns out dead straight and sort of moving like their legs are independent of their bodies, like Cylons), I feel like Bethesda gets a lot of the flak when yes their aniamtions arent the best, but they do so much else to immerse you in the game, whereas other games just have shit animations and nothing else for you to fall back on.

    I think Skyrim was a huge step up, so like if you still think Skyrim is awful, I'd say youre going to be dissapointed by the next Bethesda rpg. I mean you put Skyrim next to Fallout 3 and theres enormous improvement in faces, bodies and animations. Especially since its fuck hard to make First person medieval combat look right outside of games which are basically dedicated to it and nothing else, and which also dont have third person combat and a variety of enemies types.

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    God bless Contreras, he's the one stop shop for all my play style needs. He even has ultra jet.

    The Khans are surprisingly shitty drug dealers compared to the NCR.

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  • override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    the classic gauss rifle was such a magnificent sniper weapon

    the gauss minigun was a conical enemy/ally/vehicle/small structure/tree/even-the-goddamn-roaches deletion tool

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Can't believe I'm knee deep in Fallout 3 and New Vegas all over again.

    Truly this universe is my porn.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    I still remember playing Fallout 2 and seeing all the Enclave guards with these dinky little rifles and wondering what was up with that, cause here I am in my hardened power armor with my big "fuck you" gun and why did I just explode?

    Couple reloads later I fell in love with that gauss rifle.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Nocren wrote: »
    I still remember playing Fallout 2 and seeing all the Enclave guards with these dinky little rifles and wondering what was up with that, cause here I am in my hardened power armor with my big "fuck you" gun and why did I just explode?

    Couple reloads later I fell in love with that gauss rifle.

    *lost in flashback to when his Rain, with her kung fu skills, crushed the eye sockets of an Enclave soldier*

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  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    I love the gauss rifle.

    Feels like something Macgyver would come up with armed only with broken rifle parts and a pinball machine.

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  • StrikorStrikor Calibrations? Calibrations! Registered User regular
    The whistle sound is what always does it for me. Such a simple but perfect touch.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    It's the whistle noise that sells me everytime.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Are there any hair mods out there for Fallout 3 that aren't just for women?

    Dudes care about their hair too, modders.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    I'm sure there are hair mods, but not for the head you're thinking of.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    *shudder*

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Looking for mods is like mining for Mythril, it's best not to delve too deep.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    One minute you're shopping for new hairdos and the next you're running into a "radioactive merkins of the wasteland" mod.

    It escalates quickly.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    The Railroad gun is my favourite gun in any game ever.

    I wish I could make it in New Vegas. The nail gun just isn't as good.

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