Out of interest, how many people have their favourite FF game as the first one they played?
IV was my first. While I love it, mostly because it goes batshit insane in the second half, it's not my favorite. That honor goes to VI in the mainline series.
FF1 on the NES was my first, but IV is absolutely my favourite. No moment will ever trump
spoiler for a 20 year old game...
Rydia's return to save the party last second from Golbez
. Yeah, that one.
That game had more emotional moments in it that still affect me in ways no current gen, realistic, story-driven game can these days.
Also, I submit that FFIV's soundtrack for battles and bosses is bar none, the best. Even better than V's Battle at the Big Bridge.
Yeah, that moment is so unbelievably epic if you don't know it's coming.
Or if you know it's coming.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
Out of interest, how many people have their favourite FF game as the first one they played?
IV was my first. While I love it, mostly because it goes batshit insane in the second half, it's not my favorite. That honor goes to VI in the mainline series.
FF1 on the NES was my first, but IV is absolutely my favourite. No moment will ever trump
spoiler for a 20 year old game...
Rydia's return to save the party last second from Golbez
. Yeah, that one.
That game had more emotional moments in it that still affect me in ways no current gen, realistic, story-driven game can these days.
Also, I submit that FFIV's soundtrack for battles and bosses is bar none, the best. Even better than V's Battle at the Big Bridge.
Yeah, that moment is so unbelievably epic if you don't know it's coming.
Or if you know it's coming.
It loses something when you have to redo the fights leading up to it, and the fight it happens in, four times because you keep dying to Bio spam anyway.
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
0
AxenMy avatar is Excalibur.Yes, the sword.Registered Userregular
I feel about Seifer the same way I do about Kefka in that I wonder if it's really worth keeping around such an unstable psychopath as part of your military organization.
I feel about Seifer the same way I do about Kefka in that I wonder if it's really worth keeping around such an unstable psychopath as part of your military organization.
Man what I want to know is what kind of school (child soldier academy or otherwise) would allow Seifer to be the Disciplinary Head.
Or maybe they were thinking along the lines of the old adage "It takes a crook to catch a crook"?
Y'know, now that I think about it, I think FF8 was probably the most "anime" of the Final Fantasy games. They were one twin-tailed, tsundere Student Council President away from being complete. :razz:
Axen on
A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
She also invented blogs before blogs became a thing.
FYI I'm fixing to talk about FFVIII soon on my podcast (if not this week then next), so anyone who wants to take part in that recording feel free to PM me.
Wasn't Kefka originally some sort of general, who got "promoted" to the emperor's right-hand man (and to a position where he could be closely watched) when he started going insane?
Wasn't Kefka originally some sort of general, who got "promoted" to the emperor's right-hand man (and to a position where he could be closely watched) when he started going insane?
I thought he was in the same program that gave Celes magic, but he was an earlier version of the procedure and didn't react well to the process.
Not quite sure how he got the position of Emperor's right hand man though. Presumably he got the job before going full fruitcake, since nobody in their right mind would say "Sure, let's put the genocidal magic clown right next to the Emperor, he's clearly a guy who's completely sane and in full control of his mental faculties". Even if they did put him there to keep an eye on him, there's so many better places to put the crazy magic guy then right next to the ruler of your country.
I mean, they had like a half dozen empty prison cells, just sitting there.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kefka was a result of that same program that gave Celes her powers, only it made him kinda fucking nuts. I assume he was always ruthless and obnoxious though.
I think he was the first, and Celes was part of a second batch, after they said "yeah, okay, maybe putting magic in a fully grown adult isn't the best idea".
Kefka was one of three individuals who survived the magitek infusion process - himself, Leo, and Celes. Each of those three were elevated to generals of Gestahl's empire.
When Celes defected and Leo was killed, Kefka was the de facto leader of the Empire's armed forces and the only magically empowered servant Gestahl had left.
Kefka was one of three individuals who survived the magitek infusion process - himself, Leo, and Celes. Each of those three were elevated to generals of Gestahl's empire.
When Celes defected and Leo was killed, Kefka was the de facto leader of the Empire's armed forces and the only magically empowered servant Gestahl had left.
Well, him and the various grunts that can cast Fira and such.
Seems that, at the time of Celes's infusion, the process had been refined to the point of mass production.
I know people complained about FF6 iOS but is that an OK version or should I dust off my GBA cart?
I pretty much hate mobile games.
I still found ff6 to be pretty nice. Played through it at work. Not s huge fan of the art change, but the script is nice and the changes to people like Cyan are great.
The virtual d-pad controls can be a tad finicky, but I like some of the changes made. For one thing, the sound quality is on-par with the SNES cart. In addition to the great change to Cyan, they also added a quality-of-life fix for Espers. You can now select the Esper menu without going through the Skill menu first, and if someone has the Esper you want equipped, you can just take it from them instead of the game saying "no! EDGAR has it equipped!"
So I was thinking of giving Final Fantasy Tactics another go after getting stuck at the battle that I guess is literally the hardest one in the game? It happens right after you take a boat somewhere I think, and you're taking on that dude with the red hair and trying to stop...a hanging, I think?
How far into the game am I, and is this battle just abnormally hard and worth soldiering through? It should be noted i'd be re-starting. So if the game is about to wrap up I'd rather watch a lets play, but if it's got a ways to go I'll gvie it another run.
BRIAN BLESSEDMaybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHHRegistered Userregular
Was that the mission where Gaffgarion basically goes "you thought it was a random executor here to execute Ophelia, but it was MEEEE, DIOOOO (AND SOME DECOY)"?
That's a little more than halfway through Chapter 2, out of the whole game which is 4 chapters
It's a hard battle but if you have a time mage to speed things up and slow things down you should be alright (also Agrias is a *beast*)
Kefka was one of three individuals who survived the magitek infusion process - himself, Leo, and Celes. Each of those three were elevated to generals of Gestahl's empire.
When Celes defected and Leo was killed, Kefka was the de facto leader of the Empire's armed forces and the only magically empowered servant Gestahl had left.
Well, him and the various grunts that can cast Fira and such.
Seems that, at the time of Celes's infusion, the process had been refined to the point of mass production.
Also, Leo was never augmented.
Right you are
Well, it remains that he was the last of the generals the Empire had; it made sense he took a place of prominence thereafter
Seifer was just an asshole jock with team play issues. It wasn't like he was some super soldier, so that made far less sense to me.
I really have no idea what they were going for with Seifer, except that they wanted him to be Squall's opposite in nearly all regards.
Boisterous vs. Introverted.
Blonde vs. Brunette.
Guy with his team of thugs, who ditches them vs. Guy who didn't want a team and learns to accept/trust/love them
Rinoa
It's just so surface level, though. And given how bumbling Seifer and his crew sound and act, he never comes across as a credible threat. He's just this doofus goofball the game keeps shoving in your face.
Is it a translation issue? Or is he that goofy in the Japanese version?
PSN/XBL/Nintendo/Origin/Steam: Nightslyr 3DS: 1607-1682-2948 Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
She also invented blogs before blogs became a thing.
FYI I'm fixing to talk about FFVIII soon on my podcast (if not this week then next), so anyone who wants to take part in that recording feel free to PM me.
You should link that when you finish, I'd be interested in listening to that one specifically.
So I was thinking of giving Final Fantasy Tactics another go after getting stuck at the battle that I guess is literally the hardest one in the game? It happens right after you take a boat somewhere I think, and you're taking on that dude with the red hair and trying to stop...a hanging, I think?
How far into the game am I, and is this battle just abnormally hard and worth soldiering through? It should be noted i'd be re-starting. So if the game is about to wrap up I'd rather watch a lets play, but if it's got a ways to go I'll gvie it another run.
Not super far, to be honest. It's a fairly long game on your first playthrough. And yeah that's a pretty tough fight. Stealing or breaking Gaf's sword is the best strategy, and Agrias will be one of your most powerful characters at this point. Beyond that I'd really recommend disabling/killing Gafgarion as soon as possible, he's your main problem. I think you can still access the swamp next to.... whatever that tech city is, if you still need to train up some.
iOS FFVI is my current game for playing on the bus.
I don't mind the art change at all - I'd much rather see great pixel art than a horror like FFIV's 3D art. FFVI just got cleaner art that scales up better, and that's fine.
I had somehow forgotten how mournful the soundtrack for FFVI is.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
I know people complained about FF6 iOS but is that an OK version or should I dust off my GBA cart?
Unfortunately, in my opinion here, any detrimental thing about FFVI iOS in this comparison is offset by how disappointing the music is in FFVI GBA. Choosing between the two is kind of a Sophie's choice. But I'm an "original versions of FF games, please" kind of guy, so...
FFVI iOS sounds technically competent though, if you don't mind the new sprites.
3DS: 2466-2307-8384 PSN: bssteph Steam:bsstephanTwitch:bsstephan Tabletop:13th Age (mm-mmm), D&D 4e Occasional words about games:my site
Barring nostalgia and possibly rose tinted glasses reasons, the new translation cleans the clock out of the old one. Not that one could ever consider it bad. But I don't know, I consider games from that era to be products of their time now, back when there was still that underlying cloud of censorship where you couldn't even have simple crosses or use the word Holy, among other things. They worked magic with what they had, but nowadays we don't typically have those restrictions anymore and can do a more "truer" script. There may be no more "Son of a submariner", but by god the opera scene kicks 1000x more ass now with an actual lyrical flow.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
I feel about Seifer the same way I do about Kefka in that I wonder if it's really worth keeping around such an unstable psychopath as part of your military organization.
There are enough unstable psychopaths in real military origanizations that the answer here is *It happens*.
Barring nostalgia and possibly rose tinted glasses reasons, the new translation cleans the clock out of the old one. Not that one could ever consider it bad. But I don't know, I consider games from that era to be products of their time now, back when there was still that underlying cloud of censorship where you couldn't even have simple crosses or use the word Holy, among other things. They worked magic with what they had, but nowadays we don't typically have those restrictions anymore and can do a more "truer" script. There may be no more "Son of a submariner", but by god the opera scene kicks 1000x more ass now with an actual lyrical flow.
Er, but the original had lyrical flow in the opera scene as well? Hell, the original had better opera lyrics in my opinion and actually fit properly within the spacing of the music. The GBA/iOS/Android version isn't even true to the original script and is pretty awful. Though I guess it just rips off the Distant World script. Which, having heard it in person, is still pretty goofy sounding.
Least Darkness and Starlight did it pretty alright.
Barring nostalgia and possibly rose tinted glasses reasons, the new translation cleans the clock out of the old one. Not that one could ever consider it bad. But I don't know, I consider games from that era to be products of their time now, back when there was still that underlying cloud of censorship where you couldn't even have simple crosses or use the word Holy, among other things. They worked magic with what they had, but nowadays we don't typically have those restrictions anymore and can do a more "truer" script. There may be no more "Son of a submariner", but by god the opera scene kicks 1000x more ass now with an actual lyrical flow.
Er, but the original had lyrical flow in the opera scene as well? Hell, the original had better opera lyrics in my opinion and actually fit properly within the spacing of the music. The GBA/iOS/Android version isn't even true to the original script and is pretty awful. Though I guess it just rips off the Distant World script. Which, having heard it in person, is still pretty goofy sounding.
Least Darkness and Starlight did it pretty alright.
I assume the intent is "sing along with the synthesized voice" and not just a general translation of the song. In which case there are so many points where the syllables are off, and you either have to rush a word or hold one unnaturally. Like right off the bat, the "voice" on the second line is 4 syllables, but "So far away now" is 5. The whole thing mostly works and I'm not knocking the effort especially since most of the song is ingrained into my memory, but I always felt it was a bit clunky to be honest. To say nothing of the following Draco duel bit, which just gives up trying to follow the voices. Advance stumbles a bit there, but it's still world's better.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
I know people complained about FF6 iOS but is that an OK version or should I dust off my GBA cart?
Unfortunately, in my opinion here, any detrimental thing about FFVI iOS in this comparison is offset by how disappointing the music is in FFVI GBA. Choosing between the two is kind of a Sophie's choice. But I'm an "original versions of FF games, please" kind of guy, so...
FFVI iOS sounds technically competent though, if you don't mind the new sprites.
I really can't understand hate on the new FFVI sprites. Disappointment, I can get. The old ones were perfectly serviceable. The new ones though are basically just smoothed out versions of the old ones.
On the other hand, FFIV's new graphics are terrible, and Square Enix should feel bad for making them.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
Posts
Or if you know it's coming.
It loses something when you have to redo the fights leading up to it, and the fight it happens in, four times because you keep dying to Bio spam anyway.
3DS: 1607-3034-6970
Seifer is a raging douchebag who'd probably fit right in on The Jersey Shore.
Honestly he is pretty much a classic 1980's Movie Bully. Complete with 80's movie bully levels of attempted murder.
If you told him that, he would immediately change his image just so he wouldn't fall under a stereotype.
"If fate deems us enemies, then I would prefer we be friends."
He seems to be utterly obsessed with going against "the establishment".
Blog||Tumblr|Steam|Twitter|FFXIV|Twitch|YouTube|Podcast|PSN|XBL|DarkZero
Blog||Tumblr|Steam|Twitter|FFXIV|Twitch|YouTube|Podcast|PSN|XBL|DarkZero
Man what I want to know is what kind of school (child soldier academy or otherwise) would allow Seifer to be the Disciplinary Head.
Or maybe they were thinking along the lines of the old adage "It takes a crook to catch a crook"?
Y'know, now that I think about it, I think FF8 was probably the most "anime" of the Final Fantasy games. They were one twin-tailed, tsundere Student Council President away from being complete. :razz:
Blog||Tumblr|Steam|Twitter|FFXIV|Twitch|YouTube|Podcast|PSN|XBL|DarkZero
They were afraid of his pet killer clown.
He was basically a giggling WMD.
Seifer was just an asshole jock with team play issues. It wasn't like he was some super soldier, so that made far less sense to me.
Just a bundle of happiness.
She also invented blogs before blogs became a thing.
FYI I'm fixing to talk about FFVIII soon on my podcast (if not this week then next), so anyone who wants to take part in that recording feel free to PM me.
Blog||Tumblr|Steam|Twitter|FFXIV|Twitch|YouTube|Podcast|PSN|XBL|DarkZero
I thought he was in the same program that gave Celes magic, but he was an earlier version of the procedure and didn't react well to the process.
Not quite sure how he got the position of Emperor's right hand man though. Presumably he got the job before going full fruitcake, since nobody in their right mind would say "Sure, let's put the genocidal magic clown right next to the Emperor, he's clearly a guy who's completely sane and in full control of his mental faculties". Even if they did put him there to keep an eye on him, there's so many better places to put the crazy magic guy then right next to the ruler of your country.
I mean, they had like a half dozen empty prison cells, just sitting there.
When Celes defected and Leo was killed, Kefka was the de facto leader of the Empire's armed forces and the only magically empowered servant Gestahl had left.
Well, him and the various grunts that can cast Fira and such.
Seems that, at the time of Celes's infusion, the process had been refined to the point of mass production.
Also, Leo was never augmented.
I pretty much hate mobile games.
I still found ff6 to be pretty nice. Played through it at work. Not s huge fan of the art change, but the script is nice and the changes to people like Cyan are great.
The virtual d-pad controls can be a tad finicky, but I like some of the changes made. For one thing, the sound quality is on-par with the SNES cart. In addition to the great change to Cyan, they also added a quality-of-life fix for Espers. You can now select the Esper menu without going through the Skill menu first, and if someone has the Esper you want equipped, you can just take it from them instead of the game saying "no! EDGAR has it equipped!"
As much as I wouldn't mind replaying VIII, it would be hard without the aweome British dub.
// Switch: SW-5306-0651-6424 //
Blog||Tumblr|Steam|Twitter|FFXIV|Twitch|YouTube|Podcast|PSN|XBL|DarkZero
How far into the game am I, and is this battle just abnormally hard and worth soldiering through? It should be noted i'd be re-starting. So if the game is about to wrap up I'd rather watch a lets play, but if it's got a ways to go I'll gvie it another run.
Facebook: MeekinOnMovies
Twitter: Twitter.com/MeekinOnMovies
My 10 commandments of game reviewing
7 Great Games Playing Watch_Dogs will remind you of/url]
Far Cry 4: 10 Essential Features it Must Have
10 Videogames Ruined By The Hype
That's a little more than halfway through Chapter 2, out of the whole game which is 4 chapters
It's a hard battle but if you have a time mage to speed things up and slow things down you should be alright (also Agrias is a *beast*)
Right you are
Well, it remains that he was the last of the generals the Empire had; it made sense he took a place of prominence thereafter
/game
FFXII Zodiac Job System HD + DQVIII HD would be so great.
// Switch: SW-5306-0651-6424 //
I really have no idea what they were going for with Seifer, except that they wanted him to be Squall's opposite in nearly all regards.
Boisterous vs. Introverted.
Blonde vs. Brunette.
Guy with his team of thugs, who ditches them vs. Guy who didn't want a team and learns to accept/trust/love them
Rinoa
It's just so surface level, though. And given how bumbling Seifer and his crew sound and act, he never comes across as a credible threat. He's just this doofus goofball the game keeps shoving in your face.
Is it a translation issue? Or is he that goofy in the Japanese version?
Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
You should link that when you finish, I'd be interested in listening to that one specifically.
Not super far, to be honest. It's a fairly long game on your first playthrough. And yeah that's a pretty tough fight. Stealing or breaking Gaf's sword is the best strategy, and Agrias will be one of your most powerful characters at this point. Beyond that I'd really recommend disabling/killing Gafgarion as soon as possible, he's your main problem. I think you can still access the swamp next to.... whatever that tech city is, if you still need to train up some.
3DS Friend Code: 3110-5393-4113
Steam profile
I don't mind the art change at all - I'd much rather see great pixel art than a horror like FFIV's 3D art. FFVI just got cleaner art that scales up better, and that's fine.
I had somehow forgotten how mournful the soundtrack for FFVI is.
Unfortunately, in my opinion here, any detrimental thing about FFVI iOS in this comparison is offset by how disappointing the music is in FFVI GBA. Choosing between the two is kind of a Sophie's choice. But I'm an "original versions of FF games, please" kind of guy, so...
FFVI iOS sounds technically competent though, if you don't mind the new sprites.
Tabletop:13th Age (mm-mmm), D&D 4e
Occasional words about games: my site
The game still doesn't fix the bug that prevents you from using the Tonberries Rage, which seems odd to me. I mean, they changed the menus anyway...
There are enough unstable psychopaths in real military origanizations that the answer here is *It happens*.
Er, but the original had lyrical flow in the opera scene as well? Hell, the original had better opera lyrics in my opinion and actually fit properly within the spacing of the music. The GBA/iOS/Android version isn't even true to the original script and is pretty awful. Though I guess it just rips off the Distant World script. Which, having heard it in person, is still pretty goofy sounding.
Least Darkness and Starlight did it pretty alright.
I assume the intent is "sing along with the synthesized voice" and not just a general translation of the song. In which case there are so many points where the syllables are off, and you either have to rush a word or hold one unnaturally. Like right off the bat, the "voice" on the second line is 4 syllables, but "So far away now" is 5. The whole thing mostly works and I'm not knocking the effort especially since most of the song is ingrained into my memory, but I always felt it was a bit clunky to be honest. To say nothing of the following Draco duel bit, which just gives up trying to follow the voices. Advance stumbles a bit there, but it's still world's better.
I really can't understand hate on the new FFVI sprites. Disappointment, I can get. The old ones were perfectly serviceable. The new ones though are basically just smoothed out versions of the old ones.
On the other hand, FFIV's new graphics are terrible, and Square Enix should feel bad for making them.