The last two episodes were the weakest of both seasons.
It seemed like they really didn't know what to do after defeating Bill but still had two episodes left, so somebody said "Hey, let's go back to the cabin again!"
Actually the penultimate episode had a lot of potential, I thought. It was a love letter to ED2. It's just that they promptly shat all over the beautiful setup in the finale.
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The last two episodes were the weakest of both seasons.
It seemed like they really didn't know what to do after defeating Bill but still had two episodes left, so somebody said "Hey, let's go back to the cabin again!"
Actually the penultimate episode had a lot of potential, I thought. It was a love letter to ED2. It's just that they promptly shat all over the beautiful setup in the finale.
I thought it was dumb plan even by Ash standards.
"We just defeated the Big Bad, so let's go back in time and take a chance on royally screwing things up."
The last two episodes were the weakest of both seasons.
It seemed like they really didn't know what to do after defeating Bill but still had two episodes left, so somebody said "Hey, let's go back to the cabin again!"
Actually the penultimate episode had a lot of potential, I thought. It was a love letter to ED2. It's just that they promptly shat all over the beautiful setup in the finale.
I thought it was dumb plan even by Ash standards.
"We just defeated the Big Bad, so let's go back in time and take a chance on royally screwing things up."
To be fair
he was hopped up on angel dust laced weed and grief.
The last two episodes were the weakest of both seasons.
It seemed like they really didn't know what to do after defeating Bill but still had two episodes left, so somebody said "Hey, let's go back to the cabin again!"
Actually the penultimate episode had a lot of potential, I thought. It was a love letter to ED2. It's just that they promptly shat all over the beautiful setup in the finale.
I thought it was dumb plan even by Ash standards.
"We just defeated the Big Bad, so let's go back in time and take a chance on royally screwing things up."
To be fair
he was hopped up on angel dust laced weed and grief.
The only thing that didn't track, to me, was that
Ruby went along with it right away. I figured she had an angle.
The last two episodes were the weakest of both seasons.
It seemed like they really didn't know what to do after defeating Bill but still had two episodes left, so somebody said "Hey, let's go back to the cabin again!"
Actually the penultimate episode had a lot of potential, I thought. It was a love letter to ED2. It's just that they promptly shat all over the beautiful setup in the finale.
I thought it was dumb plan even by Ash standards.
"We just defeated the Big Bad, so let's go back in time and take a chance on royally screwing things up."
To be fair
he was hopped up on angel dust laced weed and grief.
The only thing that didn't track, to me, was that
Ruby went along with it right away. I figured she had an angle.
It kinda makes sense. She just saw Ash pull off what she thought was an amazingly stupid plan and take down Bill like a chump. I'm guessing she was ready to follow him into aything at that point.
The last two episodes were the weakest of both seasons.
It seemed like they really didn't know what to do after defeating Bill but still had two episodes left, so somebody said "Hey, let's go back to the cabin again!"
Actually the penultimate episode had a lot of potential, I thought. It was a love letter to ED2. It's just that they promptly shat all over the beautiful setup in the finale.
I thought it was dumb plan even by Ash standards.
"We just defeated the Big Bad, so let's go back in time and take a chance on royally screwing things up."
Actually, that sounds exactly like something Ash would say. Like, I wouldn't be shocked if that spoiler is a literal quote Ash uses in the show to justify his time-travel shenanigans.
I dunno about you guys but I thought the ending was great. Way better than last seasons ending, which was a bit anti-climatic.
Crazy. Illogical. But a lot of fun. It felt like a fever dream, which is where I think Evil Dead thrives. A little too positive maybe, should have been more confusing imo.
I unironically love that theres a physics thing going on in the Raimi universe where coffins are always held on tables, where 2 of the legs will magically give out at the most inopportune moment. Like a law of motion or something.
edit: We'ill call it the 'Raimi coffin', like 'chekhov's gun'.
That was a weak episode IMO. Not much really happened and that substitution for Brock's revelation was not worth it. The guy playing the Sumerian Knight was not charismatic or notable enough physically for the role however brief, so it just all seemed kinda pointless. A weak episode of AvED is still a decent tv episoed overall, but eh.
Now that was a great episode. It was full on Evil Dead/Army of Darkness all the way. It had absolutely fucked up scenes that should have invoked pure disgust, but done in such a humorous way that you can't help but kick back and laugh your head off at the absurdity. Plus the classic Campbell Three Stooges violence we all love the man for.
The original show runner had different ideas for where the show was intended to go, that's why it seems so disjointed.
Yeah, it's no illusion; the ending just sucks because there was a power struggle on the set, and Rob Tapert, the executive producer, won. The showrunner got his walking papers, and the show gets an unexplained soft reboot.
Although (season 3)
There is a bit of Kelly dialogue where she mentions how the time travel results didn't make any sense.
Honestly it is kind of ridiculous that we even got 3 seasons of this show at all.
I feel blessed...though I am still sore about Tapert ousting the season 2 show runner and hitting a soft reset for 3rd, because that storyline was going awesome places.
This sure looks like an end-of-series scenario, so maybe they intended to tie the narrative off here, or at least allow for it to end without leaving a lot of loose ends.
Ruby dead, Brandy gets a toolshed scene, Kaya gone so Kelly can come back, Ash looks to be actually stepping up instead of selfishly running or dealing his way out of a fight, and the Dark Ones are manifesting on Earth for real. That has series finale written all over it.
So it kinda sucks how they ended it, but it's probably for the best. It's weird that the show deviated so far from the original 2 seasons. The first season episodes I was able to rewatch endlessly, and the gore was through the roof. The second season was slightly aimless but retained the darkness and humour, but this season abandoned almost all of that. There were some good deadite moments like the sperm bank battle, but for the most part all that was put on the backburner for the Brandy/Ash storyline. Even Ruby's plot revolved entirely around Brandy, and so all that build up went nowhere.
I think that opting to bring in someone new to play his daughter was a mistake. And I think the choice of actress was a mistake. She's not compelling in any way, she would be one of the victims in a normal horror film. To try and make her an Ash 2.0 was ridiculous when she doens't possess a fraction of the charm. Even worse, in this final episode Kelly flat out says "I was trying to be like you" to Ash, which seemed like a middle-finger to the idea of making her his daughter and saying "nope, she wasn't good enough". So as a result KELLY took a backseat all season as well. The whole Brandy thing was a mistake IMO, and I think Ash being the time-travelling father of Kelly would have been more in-line with what came before, removed the need to spend so much time building up a new character who wasn't interesting, and would've made Ruby taking possession of her body with Kaya like... a thing to even bother fucking doing? Use her body to kill Ash since the daughter has to do it? Instead of "Here's Kaya, bye Kaya." And it ends on...I guess a cliffhanger? I don't know if that was an intentional ending or not since the world is fucked despite Ash winning.
It wasn't terrible, but I have no intention of ever going back and rewatching any of this season. Outside of the sperm bank, there was nothing here.
So it kinda sucks how they ended it, but it's probably for the best. It's weird that the show deviated so far from the original 2 seasons. The first season episodes I was able to rewatch endlessly, and the gore was through the roof. The second season was slightly aimless but retained the darkness and humour, but this season abandoned almost all of that. There were some good deadite moments like the sperm bank battle, but for the most part all that was put on the backburner for the Brandy/Ash storyline. Even Ruby's plot revolved entirely around Brandy, and so all that build up went nowhere.
I think that opting to bring in someone new to play his daughter was a mistake. And I think the choice of actress was a mistake. She's not compelling in any way, she would be one of the victims in a normal horror film. To try and make her an Ash 2.0 was ridiculous when she doens't possess a fraction of the charm. Even worse, in this final episode Kelly flat out says "I was trying to be like you" to Ash, which seemed like a middle-finger to the idea of making her his daughter and saying "nope, she wasn't good enough". So as a result KELLY took a backseat all season as well. The whole Brandy thing was a mistake IMO, and I think Ash being the time-travelling father of Kelly would have been more in-line with what came before, removed the need to spend so much time building up a new character who wasn't interesting, and would've made Ruby taking possession of her body with Kaya like... a thing to even bother fucking doing? Use her body to kill Ash since the daughter has to do it? Instead of "Here's Kaya, bye Kaya." And it ends on...I guess a cliffhanger? I don't know if that was an intentional ending or not since the world is fucked despite Ash winning.
It wasn't terrible, but I have no intention of ever going back and rewatching any of this season. Outside of the sperm bank, there was nothing here.
You know, I liked "Ash is a dad" as a storyline. He needed to own up to his shit, and this entire season was about that. While I am not sure they got the best actress possible to play his daughter, I thought that Arielle Carver-O’Neill did okay for someone that is new to the splatter gore genre.
I think the problems from losing the season 1-2 showrunner poisoned the well a bit, for sure, and "Kelly is Ash's daughter" would have been fine if the time travel plot had been allowed to continue, but I thought that Kelly was fine otherwise. She had some truly badass moments this season (her fight with Ruby was top-notch).
Also, Kelly isn't a minor. She doesn't need adult supervision. Brandy NEEDS a parent, and Ash needs to learn parental responsibility. Having that plot with Kelly would infantilize her. Chica mows down deadites like she's mowing the lawn already.
Series finale
Actually I thought that the ending was just fine. It was a direct homage to the original ending of Army of Darkness, where he drinks too much of the sleep potion and wakes up in the post-apocalyptic wasteland. And it wasn't a cliffhanger: Ash gearing up with a Mad Max guncar with an Ex Machina robot hottie manning the .50 cal and driving groovily into the wasteland to fight Evil because he didn't complete the job in the past is about the most Ash Williams ending the show could possibly have. "...and the adventure continues" is how you end shows like this, I think, because Evil can never truly be defeated.
But there was plenty of closure. Ruby: Dead. Kandar the Destroyer: Dead with his own knife. Pablo: a Jefe at peace with his heritage. Kelly: the goddamn leader they need, and one who deserves the title. Brandy: has the good luck charm Ash carried with him through all his adventures, and has learned to be strong from a dad who finally took responsibility.
So... it was a flawed show, but they had a lot of really admirable elements and had a lot of fun along the way. Ash deserved a send-off, and this was alright!
It's apparently fated (whether through Army of Darkness test screenings/studio interference or through TV show cancellation) that there isn't going to be a future post-apocalyptic Evil Dead.
Right off the bat I have to say sincere Ash is now my favorite Ash. Those scenes were some of the best in the entire series, and Bruce nailed it. I also think Kelly is way to competent to be Ash's daughter, so I'm fine they didnt go that route. Love the actress so much I'm following her on the instagrams. Same for Pablo if I'm being honest.
Not happy with the ending, despite it falling in line with the series. If it truly is the end, as Bruce has publicly stated, I'd have preferred a happier ending for the character. Evil defeated, destiny fulfilled, beer bongs and earned father daughter time with uncle Brujo and Aunt ultra badass ending would have been perfect.
That said, I'm very happy to have gotten more Evil Dead. Never would I have ever dreamed of four seasons of ultra violent Bruce Campbell goodness, but by God it happened. I'll happily take the good with the bad and remember the viewings fondly.
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Actually the penultimate episode had a lot of potential, I thought. It was a love letter to ED2. It's just that they promptly shat all over the beautiful setup in the finale.
I thought it was dumb plan even by Ash standards.
To be fair
The only thing that didn't track, to me, was that
Actually, that sounds exactly like something Ash would say. Like, I wouldn't be shocked if that spoiler is a literal quote Ash uses in the show to justify his time-travel shenanigans.
Crazy. Illogical. But a lot of fun. It felt like a fever dream, which is where I think Evil Dead thrives. A little too positive maybe, should have been more confusing imo.
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edit: We'ill call it the 'Raimi coffin', like 'chekhov's gun'.
Fucking well done.
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Yeah, it's no illusion; the ending just sucks because there was a power struggle on the set, and Rob Tapert, the executive producer, won. The showrunner got his walking papers, and the show gets an unexplained soft reboot.
Although (season 3)
It's probably just a lampshade, though.
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Cancelled.
http://deadline.com/2018/04/ash-vs-evil-dead-canceled-starz-sam-raimi-1202373190/
I feel blessed...though I am still sore about Tapert ousting the season 2 show runner and hitting a soft reset for 3rd, because that storyline was going awesome places.
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Ruby dead, Brandy gets a toolshed scene, Kaya gone so Kelly can come back, Ash looks to be actually stepping up instead of selfishly running or dealing his way out of a fight, and the Dark Ones are manifesting on Earth for real. That has series finale written all over it.
I think that opting to bring in someone new to play his daughter was a mistake. And I think the choice of actress was a mistake. She's not compelling in any way, she would be one of the victims in a normal horror film. To try and make her an Ash 2.0 was ridiculous when she doens't possess a fraction of the charm. Even worse, in this final episode Kelly flat out says "I was trying to be like you" to Ash, which seemed like a middle-finger to the idea of making her his daughter and saying "nope, she wasn't good enough". So as a result KELLY took a backseat all season as well. The whole Brandy thing was a mistake IMO, and I think Ash being the time-travelling father of Kelly would have been more in-line with what came before, removed the need to spend so much time building up a new character who wasn't interesting, and would've made Ruby taking possession of her body with Kaya like... a thing to even bother fucking doing? Use her body to kill Ash since the daughter has to do it? Instead of "Here's Kaya, bye Kaya." And it ends on...I guess a cliffhanger? I don't know if that was an intentional ending or not since the world is fucked despite Ash winning.
It wasn't terrible, but I have no intention of ever going back and rewatching any of this season. Outside of the sperm bank, there was nothing here.
You know, I liked "Ash is a dad" as a storyline. He needed to own up to his shit, and this entire season was about that. While I am not sure they got the best actress possible to play his daughter, I thought that Arielle Carver-O’Neill did okay for someone that is new to the splatter gore genre.
I think the problems from losing the season 1-2 showrunner poisoned the well a bit, for sure, and "Kelly is Ash's daughter" would have been fine if the time travel plot had been allowed to continue, but I thought that Kelly was fine otherwise. She had some truly badass moments this season (her fight with Ruby was top-notch).
Also, Kelly isn't a minor. She doesn't need adult supervision. Brandy NEEDS a parent, and Ash needs to learn parental responsibility. Having that plot with Kelly would infantilize her. Chica mows down deadites like she's mowing the lawn already.
Series finale
But there was plenty of closure. Ruby: Dead. Kandar the Destroyer: Dead with his own knife. Pablo: a Jefe at peace with his heritage. Kelly: the goddamn leader they need, and one who deserves the title. Brandy: has the good luck charm Ash carried with him through all his adventures, and has learned to be strong from a dad who finally took responsibility.
So... it was a flawed show, but they had a lot of really admirable elements and had a lot of fun along the way. Ash deserved a send-off, and this was alright!
Not happy with the ending, despite it falling in line with the series. If it truly is the end, as Bruce has publicly stated, I'd have preferred a happier ending for the character. Evil defeated, destiny fulfilled, beer bongs and earned father daughter time with uncle Brujo and Aunt ultra badass ending would have been perfect.
That said, I'm very happy to have gotten more Evil Dead. Never would I have ever dreamed of four seasons of ultra violent Bruce Campbell goodness, but by God it happened. I'll happily take the good with the bad and remember the viewings fondly.
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