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Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Cass deserves just as much credit for that instance, she spoke up first, I just backed her play when dude got hostile like he could somehow bullhorn his way over her because she's a woman
when I stepped in, his hostility got redirected towards me, which is fine, but honestly had I not felt he was one step away from assaulting Cass I would've just let her handle it entirely
Honestly that's doing most beggars a severe disservice.
they're the kind of panhandlers who get super-aggressive and don't take "sorry man, don't have any change" for an answer and follow you and if you keep declining it may change from a begging to a mugging
i'm not calling every PUA a potential rapist but
wait no
no that's exactly what I'm doing
I feel very comfortable with that generalization and if you're a self-identified PUA and that generalization offends you, feel free to have a chat with me about it!
I'm sure it'll go well for you!
And while that might be true for some people who are inside the whole PUA thing (especially people who just skim the surface of it, in the latter instance of shy losers), it doesn't change the fact that the entire concept is misogynistic, predatory, and threatening to women. It's a dangerous subculture that allows sexual predators to conceal their behaviors as being legitimate "ladies' men", and dispense misogynistic advice to impressionable young men who are lonely, dateless, and pressured by a patriarchal society that tells them their worth is measured by how many vaginas they can stuff their dick into.
It's like a big rock that needs to be lifted up so that the light can be shone on the skittering vermin hiding under it, a lot of people just see the odd bug or two skitter out from under the rock on occasion and figure that's an outlier, but the whole fucking thing is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
I average about 80 wpm fyndir
when I'm just doing stream of consciousness yakking, like telling an anecdote or writing whatever is on my mind, rather than copying a specific piece of material or trying to adhere to a specific ruleset of grammar or spelling, it jumps up to about 120 wpm
it's silly
what if we want to jump all over you regardless
sexily
I am also a feminist because I feel like feminism respects men such as myself a whole lot more than the patriarchy/mainstream society seems to in that we are intelligent humans with the ability to reason and act with agency rather than a bunch of barely-sentient apes.
It is frustrating when I see it misrepresented. I'm thankful for these threads because they keep me up-to-date on my education.
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I think if you were to pursue that sort assertive and confident action, it may very well serve to bolster my point.
blaaaaaaaaaagh
the myth of "male muscle" strikes again
There's got to be a better way to separate people of different physical groups into sporting categories, but I'm not sure what that might be.
The ideal option is probably a voluntary registration for whatever event category you feel you identify with, with a kind of universal sense of sportsmanship good sporting conduct preventing anyone from taking advantage of it.
The reality of that kind of setup would probably be a whole lot of very public debate over what should be personal decisions though
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-edit, I think it was in the trans* thread?
I'm interested in what might happen in a 'anything goes' olympics. Everyone competes in the same category, you can use any steroids you want. Maybe you can use prosthetics provided they are powered solely by the body?
It'd be interesting to see how we could push the limits of human capability. Unfortunately it would probably burn up the athletes into shadows of their former selves.
Yeah, it'd lead to a lot of deaths/injuries.
I'd be really curious to know the results of testing physical feats of a man and a woman of the same height and weight.
Like you're entering a race? Find the average time for your last x number of races. Then match people up with those most similar to them, whether male or female.
It would be largely identical assuming a similar break down between fat and muscle ratios are maintained. The only real difference is how many you could find. Testosterone helps build muscle mass, and estrogen helps build fat. Overly simplified I admit but I believe it is the idea behind separating them.
Testosterone levels as a limiter on 'protected class' in sporting events isn't such a weird thought to me. It skirts around a lot of issues gender and biological quirks to a chemical that is very clearly connected to your ability to perform.
Size/Weight isn't nearly as good an indicator, even in sports that favor small frames (pro-cycling, rock climbing, ice skating, parts of gymnastics off the top of my mind) the bar for male athletes is still higher.
That doesn't exist. It's professional sports. They're not there to be nice they're there to win. People would do whatever would make them more likely to win.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/23/court-gang-rape-indian-village-birbhum
Some selected quotes from the article. They are explicit.
I was like oh my god what are you doing
My avatar pretty much says everything I have to say about this. Christ.
it was like something out of wolf fucking creek
I saw that, I decided not to engage because Rachel seemed to be handling it alright just fine on her own and like, they kinda took a turn into crazy town at the end there.
The irony of it is, if we're thinking of the same person, they took a dump on "entitled, ingrained victim culture as embodied by 3rd wave tumblr feminists" and then when Rachel tried to address that, went into word-salad mode self-identifying by a bunch of arbitrary labels invented by tumblr in order to clarify how feminism alienates her and doesn't speak for her because she's an egalitarian.
like
damn, yo
thought I'd cross over briefly from the comic book thread because I think it's pretty dang awesome that this month marks the first time that a comic book starring a solo female lead has sold out 5 printings and is now on it's sixth. Only 6 other Marvel books have ever done this.
on top of this, it's sold even more digital copies than it has print, making Ms. Marvel something truly groundbreaking in an industry that is (finally) realizing that women might want to read comics too, if anyone would just think to include them.
It's a smart, fun book with a ton of heart, and also does a really neat thing by presenting (super)heroic ideals through the lens of a culture that doesn't often get portrayed as heroic.
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The people with that agenda cherry pick easy ammo, and that easy ammo ranges from historical radical fringes of feminism (Valerie Solanas, Andrea Dworkin) to the modern "shamester" movement among bloggers (Melissa McEwan, Amanda Marcotte) and tumblr and the like, obsessed with trigger warnings and rape culture and being needlessly hostile and inflammatory to the point of alienating anyone reasonable.
That easy ammo is loaded up and fired into impressionable young women who are presented with a slanted view of what feminism is, was, and currently means, and the sounds of that gunfire is familiar to older women who remember previous firings from older eras (like when Andrea Dworkin was more current).
These extreme voices are minority voices and while they may be loud voices, they're not nearly as loud as they are when amplified by those with an agenda to make feminism look hideous and unacceptable to other women. This is especially true when this easy ammo is fired into privileged, first world, generally white and middle class women (who make up the overwhelming majority of "Women Against Feminism" type nonsense), because the kind of nonsense that the radicals that are being fired at them scream about just does not apply to their lives in any way they give a shit about, if at all.
Actual meaningful elements of feminism are de-emphasized and cast aside in this narrative, in favor of sensational presentation of the worst of the worst.
The end result, which is the desired goal of those with the agenda who are loading the easy ammo, is these women look at the crazy, shrill impression they're getting of feminism, both historical and modern, and put up a hand, push the plate back, and say "No thank you, you don't speak for me".
The worst part about this is it's like a fusion breeder reactor; you just need to get the process started for the rest of it to power itself. Anti-feminist women will perpetuate the anti-feminist narrative that was spun to them, internalize it, believe it, and spin it to other women and the entire thing can be many steps removed from the people with an agenda who initially started the misrepresentation.
The same thing happens with queer people, and I know this because I am a first hand example of how this thinking can take root and be awful. I've talked about this before on the forums (and recently, even, in the trans thread), but I went through a period in my youth of effectively blaming Pride movements and many forms of queer activism and flamboyant queer sexuality as if they are the reasons for homophobia and bigotry. That really people would stop caring about this stuff if they just stopped being such fags about the whole thing and conformed more to "normal" societal behaviors, outside of what they do in the bedroom. This was a narrative being spun to me, unknowingly to me at the time, by conservative pundits and individuals within the queer community who were already bought in to this idea. And I helped perpetuate it, because it worked for me. My own privileged life and my own ease with certain issues with being queer were obfuscating what was really going on and why things were better for me. I thought "Well, it's because I didn't do these things, clearly" and that wasn't even remotely true. But that was an easy sell, and there were people who were quick to reinforce that idea to me that I listened to.
I have a roommate who is like, kind of does this. But is also super generally progressive, so I think it's like, a refusal to identify with that title because... reasons. Unfortunately my other super awesome feminist roommate is moving out so I will have to take up the mantle of House Feminist. But yeah, she legit equated those mentally, despite being super feministy in practice.
My favourite conversations with my boss are about feminism. I think the fact that me being the department as a person who makes her feminist beliefs look conservative has made her more comfortable calling out people on their bullshit more openly to the entire office which is a good thing.
I do not like that most of our conversations start because men are doing gross things, like school board members sizing up young women who come to talk at school board meetings like they're pieces of meat, or her talking with other people in IT or other department heads and them acting like she is a helpless child, but if me or the other male Admin were to have the same discussion people would hang on our every word.